Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 14:46:02 Ok I may get shot down over this but I think I would like him as manager.
YES He is the cheap option but bringing Chris Allen on was a great move, he put some decent crosses into the box, Perhaps it is only 1 game but I love the guys passion and to be honest he knows how to motivate a team, Look what he did with the youth team last year? I think he could be a very good manager and won't take any shit from anyone. Yes a cheap option but I think he could be a very good manager..... He would atleast blood the youth team players (I know we are suffering from injuries). Most of all he seems passionate and that he asserts his authority. I guess we will see how he gets on in a league game but personally after listening to the guy on the radio etc I wouldn't mind him being manager. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 14:52:34 no
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 14:52:58 It sounds like you want to have his babies....if as looks likely, Fitton goes tits up, and we end up with Plan B, then doubtless you'll get your wish.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 14:53:33 Dont agree there Gaz, we need someone with league experience imo. Ling or Allen would be good. Keep Byrne on for the youths though.
Title: Re: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 14:57:07 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Ok I may get shot down over this but I think I would like him as manager. YES He is the cheap option but bringing Chris Allen on was a great move, he put some decent crosses into the box, Perhaps it is only 1 game but I love the guys passion and to be honest he knows how to motivate a team, Look what he did with the youth team last year? I think he could be a very good manager and won't take any shit from anyone. Yes a cheap option but I think he could be a very good manager..... He would atleast blood the youth team players (I know we are suffering from injuries). Most of all he seems passionate and that he asserts his authority. I guess we will see how he gets on in a league game but personally after listening to the guy on the radio etc I wouldn't mind him being manager. So because he won a game against a non-league team and jumped up and down abit he should be the next manager........obviously you are easily pleased. Just because a man is passionate it doesn't make them good managers, if that was the case everyone of us could manage a league team. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 14:58:39 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" It sounds like you want to have his babies..... I thought I deleted that part of the post. It was just a breath of fresh air perhaps to see someone with passion etc instaed of being "mindful" I did know I would be shot down as I know people see Byrne becoming manager a bit "Iffy" Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:00:21 He'll be at Plymouth within a month.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:00:27 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" It sounds like you want to have his babies..... I thought I deleted that part of the post. It was just a breath of fresh air perhaps to see someone with passion etc instaed of being "mindful" I did know I would be shot down as I know people see Byrne becoming manager a bit "Iffy" Obviously you used to love Andy King then :roll: Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:01:51 Kingy was ace, his after match interviews were quality, most random stuff ive ever heard 8)
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:02:59 Quote from: "glos_robin" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" It sounds like you want to have his babies..... I thought I deleted that part of the post. It was just a breath of fresh air perhaps to see someone with passion etc instaed of being "mindful" I did know I would be shot down as I know people see Byrne becoming manager a bit "Iffy" Obviously you used to love Andy King then :roll: Yes he was god. :roll: Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:03:07 Quote from: "tans" Kingy was ace, his after match interviews were quality, most random stuff ive ever heard 8) he never said twat though did he!! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:03:51 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "tans" Kingy was ace, his after match interviews were quality, most random stuff ive ever heard 8) he never said twat though did he!! He did mention David Duke quite a bit in his interviews so close enough. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:06:43 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "tans" Kingy was ace, his after match interviews were quality, most random stuff ive ever heard 8) he never said twat though did he!! He did mention David Duke quite a bit in his interviews so close enough. That actually made me laugh Gaz Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:09:40 Internal appointments at STFC don't work, I thought people would realise that by now.......Gorman, King, Iffy etc were all ultimately failures
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC Bart on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:10:03 No, definately not
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:27:30 no fucking chance.
i don't like him and i don't know why. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: fatbury on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:31:30 no way .. got lucky with subs yesterday .. very lucky ...
just doesnt cut it for me Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:38:59 No way. The cheapest of cheap options.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: OneAndrewFitton on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 15:46:25 No chance, unproven and would be the cheap way out, it has to be Ling or Cotterill in my opinion.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 17:20:46 I think he looks like a paedophile (Sp?)!
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 17:21:35 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Sussex on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 17:56:42 Quote David Byrne for Manager? Stop it Gaz, seriously. :D (are you drunk?) Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Bushey Boy on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 18:04:17 If it means we still have a club id get behind him. I would lovve our youth to be given much more opportunities
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 18:48:41 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" If it means we still have a club id get behind him. I would lovve our youth to be given much more opportunities More often than not their not good enough just look at where 99% of them end up. At the end of the day if their not good enough for the first team then it is pointless playing them. Sentiment has no place in football these days. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 18:56:53 we've given our youth players plenty of opportunity in recent years - they're just not good enough.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:03:20 To be fair our youth team did very well last year so perhaps this trend is changing.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Bushey Boy on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:03:23 Allen and Tozer are good enough.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: stfc_steve on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:03:43 I think he stands more chance of becoming manager of supermarine than us, but then again don't we always go for the cheapest option?
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Batch on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:10:55 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" To be fair our youth team did very well last year so perhaps this trend is changing. Good at youth level is a million miles away from good at 1st team level. There is nothing to say being good at one automatically leads to being good at the other. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:12:19 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" Allen and Tozer are good enough. aye and both have been involved in the first team this season.i don't think allen will make it because of his size, reminds me of ben wells - technically able but too small Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:16:59 Ummm hate to be picky but technically Tozer is new to STFC, we got him from Plymouth about 6 months ago so is a very bad example to use really as has very little to do with our youth set-up.
As for Allen I agree with sonic youths assessment to be honest. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Bushey Boy on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:19:36 I just think whats the point in having young players at the club if we wont play them
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: yeo on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:21:53 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" I just think whats the point in having young players at the club if we wont play them Where else would Everton get average young players from :o Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:24:01 one in ten will probably be good enough to break into the first team/be able to sell on...
i think our CofE has probably paid for itself in recent years, combined with the excellent funding provided by the supporters club Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:25:50 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" I just think whats the point in having young players at the club if we wont play them We do though Jukebox, Mildenhall, Pook, Sol Davis etc are fairly recent examples. But there is absolutely no point in playing players if they are not good enough, it would be detrimental to the club. Would you be happy to get relegated if it meant we had a lot of youth players in the team, it would be a job loser for any manager. The fact that none of our released youngsters go onto achieve anything at league level IMO justifies them not getting much of a look in here, they just aren't upto scratch. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:30:09 if they aint good enough then they shouldn't play.
agree with sonic about allen too. and fatbury was spot on with regard to the subs imo. cotterill or mad dog please.byrne is doing a decent job with the yoofs and should remain in that post Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:34:52 is your lad still involved at youth level, arriba?
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:37:27 yep.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 19:55:21 allen is very good technically, that fact alone I think he'll make it.
he does need to bulk up abit and his size is an issue but I think he range of passing and technically ability is better than Pooks was when he first broke into the team, infact his skill is probably better than Pook now Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Power to people on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 20:28:06 FFs Gaz nooooo we need experience
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Crozzer on Sunday, December 2, 2007, 21:14:28 Quote from: "Samdy Gray" He'll be at Plymouth within a month. I think that actually living there at the moment might come into it. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, December 3, 2007, 20:41:00 Well for all those that wanted it......Its not Andy King.....Luggy has taken him to Plymouth as chief scout...see here.
http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?t=21122&highlight=andy+andrew+king Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 3, 2007, 20:52:53 Quote from: "jjedmunds" Well for all those that wanted it......Its not Andy King.....Luggy has taken him to Plymouth as chief scout...see here. http://www.pasoti.co.uk/talk/viewtopic.php?t=21122&highlight=andy+andrew+king Ace....if true, Sturrock always recognised the the decent job :king: did here. Having experienced first hand the sort of mayhem you have to put up with our Board, he has prorbably gone up in his estimation. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Sussex on Monday, December 3, 2007, 20:59:24 I thought Kingy was running a pub in Hertfordshire?
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Reeves for King on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:21:47 Despite all the things people say about Kingy, it can't be disputed he would make a fucking good chief scout.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:23:23 Quote from: "Reeves for King" Despite all the things people say about Kingy, it can't be disputed he would make a fucking good chief scout. You could say that, but when you consider his last two signings for us were Ricky Shakes and Charlie Comyn-Platt, I'd beg to differ. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:24:20 both were excellent players, i don't see your point.
8) Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: flammableBen on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:24:35 He's one of my favourite managers ever. Not just Town Managers.
He seemed to have this weird charisma where it was much easier to dislike him than like him but I still always wanted to like him. Sort of. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:27:06 I think he'd make a better Chief.
How! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Colin Todd on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:44:49 Quote from: "flammableBen" He's one of my favourite managers ever. Not just Town Managers. He seemed to have this weird charisma where it was much easier to dislike him than like him but I still always wanted to like him. Sort of. "cuntisma" Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: ron dodgers on Monday, December 3, 2007, 21:46:30 http://www.pafc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10364~1182347,00.html
give me back my smoking chimp Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 3, 2007, 23:06:39 I don't like him now :x
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 23:08:24 Still want him then Gazza? I must say I loved his attitude of blaming the players and constantly refering to the players as 'them'
Not upto the job end of story! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Luci on Tuesday, December 4, 2007, 23:20:03 With the utmost respect to Gaz, he made the trip to Carlisle tonight which is something most of us didn't do. He only raised a topic and I guess this evening itself has justified Byrnes worthiness as manager.........
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 04:05:19 Quote from: "glos_robin" Still want him then Gazza? I must say I loved his attitude of blaming the players and constantly refering to the players as 'them' Not upto the job end of story! No he needs to go, I did say lets see how he does in the league and he was crap with the rest of the shit as well. Paynter is absolutely useless and lazy whilst the rest of the players just dont seem to give a toss. i am not happy right now like everyone else. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: janaage on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:10:47 Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "Bushey Boy" Allen and Tozer are good enough. aye and both have been involved in the first team this season.i don't think allen will make it because of his size, reminds me of ben wells - technically able but too small Disagree it doesn't matter about Allen's size he's only a kid and will get stronger. Did Lloyd Macklin get on last night? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:12:08 Quote from: "janaage" Did Lloyd Macklin get on last night? no Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:14:30 Quote from: "janaage" Quote from: "sonic youth" Quote from: "Bushey Boy" Allen and Tozer are good enough. aye and both have been involved in the first team this season.i don't think allen will make it because of his size, reminds me of ben wells - technically able but too small Disagree it doesn't matter about Allen's size he's only a kid and will get stronger. alan young didn't! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: janaage on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:17:18 I don't mean to shock you here SY, but Chris Allen isn't Alan Young.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:17:57 Byrne OUT!
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Luci on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:19:55 Heard anything back from your application Fatters? :mrgreen:
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:20:30 Don't forget guys he's just filling in. Give him some slack. Even if PS was in charge we would have probably lost. Byrne has done wonders for the yoof's.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: axs on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:23:47 Quote from: "fatbury" Byrne OUT! better than fading away. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: janaage on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:24:26 Dave Byrne hasn't done wonders for the youths he inherited a very good collective of youngsters. Credit should be given to the guy who signed Macklin, Lukas, Chris Allen etc, not some bloke who turns up and can't believe his luck.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:32:46 Ive written a CV to send in, detailing my achievements in Championship Manager 93. Ill email it in in a mo, no doubt i wont hear anything. :mrgreen:
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:33:38 I've almost gotten to the stage of, why do I bother with this club,
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:37:55 Apply Gaz, im going to
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 10:38:23 Also who would I have to email it too?
Starnes? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 12:37:37 Mine was a postal application to Starnes ...
No reply yet but we are hopeful (my campaign team that is!) - did anyone hear the "Fatbury for Manager" Chant on Saturday??? :wink: Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: tans on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 12:51:43 whats starnes email?
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: herthab on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:20:55 Quote from: "fatbury" Mine was a postal application to Starnes ... No reply yet but we are hopeful (my campaign team that is!) - did anyone hear the "Fatbury for Manager" Chant on Saturday??? :wink: No. But then I don't sit next to you....................................... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:22:51 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "fatbury" Mine was a postal application to Starnes ... No reply yet but we are hopeful (my campaign team that is!) - did anyone hear the "Fatbury for Manager" Chant on Saturday??? :wink: No. But then I don't sit next to you....................................... I doubt you live in his head either :D Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:23:45 Quote from: "fatbury" did anyone hear the "Fatbury for Manager" Chant on Saturday??? :wink: yes the guy beside me farted about 5 times during the match. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 13:35:21 Quote from: "janaage" Dave Byrne hasn't done wonders for the youths he inherited a very good collective of youngsters. Credit should be given to the guy who signed Macklin, Lukas, Chris Allen etc, not some bloke who turns up and can't believe his luck. wonders no. but he's done pretty well with them. he has brought a few in himself(tozer most notibally) lucas came from southampton.macklin and allen through the cofe.so none of the youth managers past and present have done it all themselves.that said no way should byrne be given the managers job full time. but i think if there's no takeover then dont be surprised if he gets it. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, December 5, 2007, 14:36:16 By the way, that had nothing to do with me.
(Quickly scampers off to change his signature block.....) Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: janaage on Thursday, December 6, 2007, 09:19:49 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "janaage" Dave Byrne hasn't done wonders for the youths he inherited a very good collective of youngsters. Credit should be given to the guy who signed Macklin, Lukas, Chris Allen etc, not some bloke who turns up and can't believe his luck. wonders no. but he's done pretty well with them. he has brought a few in himself(tozer most notibally) lucas came from southampton.macklin and allen through the cofe.so none of the youth managers past and present have done it all themselves.that said no way should byrne be given the managers job full time. but i think if there's no takeover then dont be surprised if he gets it. We still had to sign (and keep on) Macklin, Allen and Lukas, you don't just turn up and bingo!! You have to do a lot of work to convince a youngster (and their family) that they should sign up on the Swindon books. Byrne wasn't in charge of the youths when we won the Milk Cup in Northern Ireland, all I'm saying is he inherited a pretty decent team. As for Tozer, I'd imagine Sturrock had a lot to do with that lad signing for us. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:20:36 I will repeat. I would not mind having David Byrne as manager, We are doing alright under him, Would be gutted for the guy if he is getting results then is told to fuck off.
Met the guy today outside the ground and he came over to every fan outside and shook everyones hand and said happy new year to everyone. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:25:09 i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager.
i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned. nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:25:42 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" I will repeat. I would not mind having David Byrne as manager, We are doing alright under him, Would be gutted for the guy if he is getting results then is told to fuck off. Met the guy today outside the ground and he came over to every fan outside and shook everyones hand and said happy new year to everyone. Nothing to do with trying to get fans on side to support his bid to take charge. He is not the experienced head we need and this is still 100% Sturrocks team. Neither him or Williams have any experience of wheeling and dealing players so he is a unacceptable risk. As Fitton seemed to say to day he may be a good coach but he has zero experience being a manager (as they have responsibility for the entire football set-up and he's never even got close to doing that.) Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:27:13 Quote from: "SY" i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager. i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned. nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Listening to Aljofree on the radio I think that was his (aljofrees) decision not Byrnes!!! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:35:35 Quote from: "SY" i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager. i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned. nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Can;t beleive that I'm saying this but I'm with you SY. His passion is clearly there and his half time talk was obviously quite effective. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:37:28 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "SY" i don't think being a nice bloke is neccesarily the best reason to appoint someone as manager. i hated the cunt but i'm warming to him, he's obviously very passionate and he's done well since some of the key players have returned. nevertheless, he ended up playing aljofree up front today. Listening to Aljofree on the radio I think that was his (aljofrees) decision not Byrnes!!! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:41:52 I think they should give him until the end of the season and see how he does. Realistically, we're not going down. Similarly, we have a resonable chance of making the play offs. If we don't do it though, it's not a disaster.
The way the team are performing for Byrne and Williams, I don't see any reason to rush into appointing a manager from outside. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:46:25 No thank you, I cannot fault the effort that his team puts in put his tactics are shite
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Batch on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:49:51 I think he is doing well, but as I said elsewhere it is with Sturrocks squad.
We minimise risk by appointing from outside IMHO. His ability to progress the squad and attract players is an unknown. It's that simple, he has no experience. Then again, if the alternative was Denis Smith, I'd take Byrne! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:51:11 Quote from: "Dachauer" his tactics are shite please explain how he got his tactics wrong today?Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 17:57:50 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" I think they should give him until the end of the season and see how he does. Realistically, we're not going down. Similarly, we have a resonable chance of making the play offs. If we don't do it though, it's not a disaster. The way the team are performing for Byrne and Williams, I don't see any reason to rush into appointing a manager from outside. I see what you mean but no, this season surely is not about promotion (Which would be a bonus), but rather consolidation and allowing whatever manager to build for next season. The thing for me also is that Byrne has done well since the takeover, but when the chips where down (No Pre-takeover), he didn't perform. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:03:06 I've slated him in the past, but thought he got the tactics spot on today.
The move to go from 4-4-1 to 4-3-2 after 30 minutes and only 10 of being down to 10 men I thought was suicide and a stupid decision at the time but it worked. How often do you see teams go down to 10 and shut up shop for the 0-0 with everyone behind the ball. We didnt do that and it surprised me....but it worked. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:05:26 I agree with OST. Give Byrne until the end of the season. He is not doing bad. We are not going down and we have a guy that isn't doing bad. I don't think Ady should stay as his assistant though.
I think ANY manager would have struggled with the embargo/suspensions/injuries etc. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:08:44 Quote from: "BANGKOK RED" The thing for me also is that Byrne has done well since the takeover, but when the chips where down (No Pre-takeover), he didn't perform. The other side of that coin of course is that after three consecutive defeats, he did brilliantly to turn things around. No one will ever know how another manager would have done during those three games. The club was in such utter turmoil (I'm not saying were completely out of the woods yet) any manager would have found it tough - even Sturrock. I just think you can't over-emphasize the importance of the willingness of the players to play for a manager. These players have shown that they are prepared to run through brick walls for this manager. To me, that counts massively in the guy's favour. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:10:02 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" I agree with OST. Give Byrne until the end of the season. He is not doing bad. We are not going down and we have a guy that isn't doing bad. I don't think Ady should stay as his assistant though. I think ANY manager would have struggled with the embargo/suspensions/injuries etc. As others have said though we are probably safe so it gives the opportunity for a new manager to come in assess the current squad and start putting their stamp on things. And Byrne would bring in players so could prove a bit of a waste of money if come the summer the new manager isn't interested in them. Now is the perfect time for a new manager so lets not waste time and money ....if Fitton wants Championship football within 3 years we need to start getting things together now and the managerial position should be one be one of the first areas to be addressed. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:15:30 Quote from: "Batch" I think he is doing well, but as I said elsewhere it is with Sturrocks squad. We minimise risk by appointing from outside IMHO. Then again, if the alternative was Denis Smith, I'd take Byrne! It's hardly Byrne's fault that it's Sturrock's squad it it? You can say that about whoever gets the job. As for minimising the risk by appointing by from outside, I would say the opposite is true. If you appoint Byrne, you are appointing some one who you know for a fact can get the best out of the players at his disposal. That doesn't seem very risky to me. As for Dennis Smith.............. :? I think that's something we can all agree on. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:19:46 Where we have always gone for the cheap option and promote from within, This time I AM CONVINCED it would be a good thing. Byrne has managed to take a team that was in turmoil (Swindon 0 Brighton 3) and motivate them to give a ball busting performance today. These players obviously respect Byrne and will play for him.
GIVE BYRNE A CHANCE! He hasn't done anything to convince me he shouldn't get the job. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:37:35 Sturrock assembled a reasonably good team and Byrne has ran with it........the upturn in fortune is obviously 100% Byrne and nothing to do with Ifil, Aljofree, Peacock and Corr returning to the team :-))(
In his career Byrne has never signed a player, never bought in a player on loan and never done the 101 other things that are associated with being manager of a football club. On that basis alone Byrne would be a huge risk (what if his contacts only extend as far as Plymouth for exmaple no one knows). OK you needa chance to prove whether you sink or swim but I'd rather not risk seeing him sink here. Maybe Byrne could be a good manager but Fitton is a businessman and in business sentiment counts for nothing this is why I remain convinced he will steer well clear of Byrne Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:43:49 True yes Peacock, Ifil, Aljofree, Corr etc returning to the team did help. I did state that any manager would have struggled with the injuries/suspensions etc.
That said, Byrne still needs to motive that team and put out the best team. If a player doesnt want to play for you they wont perform. He seems passionate about it and he again needs to sort the team out and tactics. All managers need to start somewhere. Byrne may have more contacts through Sturrock and perhaps even Fitton, Williams etc at the club.... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:48:53 the fact that in the past few games we've only started performing in the second half of games is a bit worrying. if he was such a good motivator we'd be coming out raring right at the start
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:49:11 I wouldn't mind Mr Byrne given a chance. After todays tatics, he was spot on.
His only fault to me, was the team he fielded against Brighton :? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:51:34 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" True yes Peacock, Ifil, Aljofree, Corr etc returning to the team did help. I did state that any manager would have struggled with the injuries/suspensions etc. That said, Byrne still needs to motive that team and put out the best team. If a player doesnt want to play for you they wont perform. He seems passionate about it and he again needs to sort the team out and tactics. All managers need to start somewhere. Byrne may have more contacts through Sturrock and perhaps even Fitton, Williams etc at the club.... And again it comes down to we don't know therefore making him a huge gamble. Under Iffy if you remember we had a spell where results improved and we moved away from the relegation zone but look what happened there. Experience tells me that to base an appointment decision on 7 or 8 matches is meaningless lets be honest with all players being Sturrocks his impact in the grand scheme of things is minimal. He should be compared to every other candidate that has applied and past historys compared etc. STFC is to be ran like a business (as Fitton keeps saying) and that is how recruitment works. Against any manager with say Championship experience recently Byrne loses end of story. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:53:01 Byrne would be slight risk imo he is inexperienced as a manager, he showed at the start that he was unable to get the best out of the "reserve" players, but when the first team comes back suddenly they start winning, becasue they are a good bunch of players who play well for each other yes ok he obviously has a part to play but we all know this team is good enough for this division and on their day, possibly with you or I managing them would put on a good performance, but over a longer period of time the cracks would emerge as the inexperience would show through.
The key to a manager a good manager is how he handles things when the going get's tough, the players he brings in, the tactics he employs, his ability to improve the players at his disposal through coaching on the training pitch, his man managment. I would like to see an experienced manager brought in so then it is not seen as such a risk as he would have seen it and done it before. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 18:54:59 Quote from: "Power to people" Byrne would be slight risk imo he is inexperienced as a manager, he showed at the start that he was unable to get the best out of the "reserve" players, but when the first team comes back suddenly they start winning, becasue they are a good bunch of players who play well for each other yes ok he obviously has a part to play but we all know this team is good enough for this division and on their day, possibly with you or I managing them would put on a good performance, but over a longer period of time the cracks would emerge as the inexperience would show through. The key to a manager a good manager is how he handles things when the going get's tough, the players he brings in, the tactics he employs, his ability to improve the players at his disposal through coaching on the training pitch, his man managment. I would like to see an experienced manager brought in so then it is not seen as such a risk as he would have seen it and done it before. spot on :goodpost: Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:27:14 so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available?
and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats? it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:39:12 Quote from: "lebowski" so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available? #and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats? it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit. Spot On Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:49:39 Byrne was largely to blame for the Brighton fiasco though...
If we lose on Saturday everyone will saying Byrne is not the man for the job as thats the fickle world of football. At present my opinion is he is not the man for the job and I'm sticking with that, I see too many similarities to when Iffy was in charge where he temporarily turned around the fortunes of a club in turmoil only to ultimately fail ..........only diference being with Iffy it was players he brought in improved results. Byrne has a lot to prove if he gets the job I will be happy to get proved wrong but I don't think he will become manager and he definately should not be top of any list for STFC's next manager. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:49:52 I have to say
and i never thought Id say this Byrne is doing a bloody good job .. the players seem to respond to him .. and we are playing better football I wouldnt rush to get a new manager yet .. lets take our time and appoint one when things are looking a bit worse ... All we need to do tho is make sure we sign Cox and keep Brez .. as long as that happens .. we stay in this division (or go up ) then Ill be happy for this season Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: JOHNNY REEVES on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:51:27 get back to the youths mr byrne we,re on a good cup run.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: BANGKOK RED on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 19:59:27 Byrne seems to have been given the responsibility of "Chatting" with clubs in regards to new signing's also. It appears as though all are warming to him, maybe Fitton included.
Still, 4 good results is not enough to judge on is it? (Or should that be 4 good and 3 disgraceful) Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:01:26 Quote from: "lebowski" so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available? and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats? it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit. If DV has given him credit then anyone can. I think he is doing a cracking job. I'm not even worried about the whole manager thing now. It is great to debate this though than the politcal bollocks! LOVE IT! Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:09:42 NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:51:10 Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. Taking those points in order. Why? and Why? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 20:54:40 i'm undecided about it.but if its him give it to him now and end this joint thing with adi.one thing that concerns me with byrne is that he goes mental at players for stuff, and that in time could cause problems in the dressing room.he's upset zaboob today and was going mental at various players today.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:00:55 Quote from: "arriba" i'm undecided about it.but if its him give it to him now and end this joint thing with adi.one thing that concerns me with byrne is that he goes mental at players for stuff, and that in time could cause problems in the dressing room.he's upset zaboob today and was going mental at various players today. Agreed, the way he solely blames the players when we lose wouldn't wear well over a long period. I think it is possible to be too passionate and it can cause big problems as it can cloud your judgement Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:02:17 Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:07:08 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:08:51 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. Taking those points in order. Why? and Why? Don't think he'll be able to sustain this good form for long. If he proves me wrong then good for him. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:16:18 Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Difference with Iffy was he only improved when Big Ron was about. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:17:53 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Difference with Iffy was he only improved when Big Ron was about. Again true but is this little spurt in form only because of the feel good factor with the takeover and players returning from injury? I think it is. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:20:17 Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" NO NO NO. Don't want Byrne as boss. Yes he's done a great job but he is not the long term solution. He won't get us out of this league. How do you know he wouldn't? If its not broken don't fix it. Just think it's the not the answer tbh. Would rather get a decent experienced manager in. We saw Iffy peak for a bit and thought he was OK then look what happened. Difference with Iffy was he only improved when Big Ron was about. Again true but is this little spurt in form only because of the feel good factor with the takeover and players returning from injury? I think it is. And when a new manager comes in your normally have a spurt of good form? Would it last? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:32:52 No offence Gazza but you seem to come accross as abit naive at times as your whole hearted support for Byrne seems to be mostly down to him being passionate and saying happy new year to supporters. It take alot more than that to be a good manager and he should have to do interviews for the job like everyone else and be judged on more than the last 4 games. If he is on a short list along with names such as Ling & Cotterill (and presuming they are interested) he should get no where near the job as he doesn't stack up in comparison to them as he is an unknown quantity.
Byrne needs time as a first team coach and an assistant manager for a few years. He needs to work his way up the ladder as up until now his coaching has been limited to youth players which is a completely different kettle of fish. He's done a good job holding the fort but that should be all he is doing, keeping things ticking over for a new guy to take the reigns. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:41:01 to be fair every manager has to start somewhere.and look at the success the rookie managers have had here.
byrne is nothing like iffy as he wont be all pally pally with the players. gazza the big ron thing about iffy is a load of bollocks too.big rons input was virtually nil.i think it did more harm than good. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:46:11 I've not said anything about he should get the job because he said happy New year. I mearly mentioned the fact he had time for fans this morning. Saying happy new year and waving your dick about doesnt win football matches.
My support comes from the fact that we have done well recently against teams you would expect to lose to i.e. Swansea or Yeovil. The players seem as if they want to play under him and everyone is on a high in confidence right now. Managers need to start somewhere. If Ling or Cotterill come in then fair enough I wouldn't complain however we start from scractch again and it could de-rail what is happening now. I think people are giving all the credit to say Peacock or other players that were out as opposed to the person that picks the team. It is a group effort. Everyone is looking in the same direction right now and things are going well. It is inevitable what will happen. IF WE DO WELL: Its because of the players WHEN WE LOSE A GAME: Everyone will say Oh the managers shite he is useless etc. No fault will be put on the players. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:49:12 Quote from: "lebowski" so let me get this right... when we had those 3 defeats, it was byrne's fault, and nothing to do with the fact that several of our best players were not available? i hated the cunt when he got the job. he was nothing more than a big mouthed wide boy football manager wannabe. the first few performances under byrne were woeful and should not be ignored simply because we're now undefeated in four. the team and tactics he fielded for that brighton game alone defy all logic and reason.and now that we're going well, it's nothing to do with byrne, because anyone would be able to do well with those same players who were missing for the 3 defeats? it really wouldn't hurt some of you to give the guy some credit. since fitton took control and some key players have returned, results have improved as well. byrne has also begun to learn from his mistakes and has returned to the obvious formula (i.e. sturrock's) and adapted it to play to our strengths. we've done well, he's motivated the team well and he's obviously very passionate and determined to succeed. for that he deserves credit. my biggest concern is that when we were missing key players, he appeared clueless and seriously short on ideas. what happens if we get into a bad run with our key players available? he doesn't appear to have much to fall back on. whilst he's got bags of coaching experience, managing a youth side where results aren't scrutinised by 6,500 people every week and the pressure is minimal as results aren't hugely important must be incredibly different to managing a senior side. as others have said, he lacks experience of the day-to-day football management. does he have contacts in the game? does he have long-term plans for the club? does he have an eye for a player? what sort of football would a side comprised of byrne signings play? this is a new era at STFC and i think we need a new manager with experience, knowledge and talent to take us forward - i genuinely don't think byrne fits that criteria. he is very much in the mould of a martin allen; loud, brash and "passionate". Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC4LIFE on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:51:06 He did bring Tozer in........
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:52:13 I see your point Gaz I do, but at the same time experienced managers have the edge on transfer know how and having seen it done it and got the T shirt so it works both ways.
The telling stat for me is that since Iffy we've gone for relatively high profile managers and although both left they have done a good job and brought success. I think our players are a genuine group of lads and play for eachother not specifically the manager so that wouldn't worry me as we've got some experienced pro's in that team and most have done it all before.....stagnation is much bigger risk than getting derailed IMO Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:53:45 byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job?
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:57:22 Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? The answer is simply no. What Sonic said pretty much sums it up for me tbh. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 21:58:28 Everyone has an opinion. I wouldn't slate any manager, as anyone who comes in WANTS the job, he wants to be at Swindon.
Right now I feel If its not broken don't fix it etc. and where we failed before hiring internally, We can't say Byrne has been a failure. I would ditch Williams and maybe hire an experienced assistant though. This would perhaps make up for some of the shortfalls in other areas. Perhaps a precident (sp) has been set now as the last 2 managers have been high profile. I can see other peoples opinions too. As I said, I am so glad we can all debate football now instead of boardroom issues! :beers: Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 22:07:04 Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.he doesn't know how to be a football manager. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 22:13:23 Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.he doesn't know how to be a football manager. maybe?maybe not? its not a cut and dried issue is it? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: neville w on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 22:34:07 Having never been a manager or coach, It seems to me that his "micro management" style of constantly shouting and arm waving may be more suited to a youth team environment where there is a lack of on field flexibilty and experience.
He's also publicly criticised players after defeats - good managers don't do that. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 22:36:34 Quote from: "neville w" Having never been a manager or coach, It seems to me that his "micro management" style of constantly shouting and arm waving may be more suited to a youth team environment where there is a lack of on field flexibilty and experience. He's also publicly criticised players after defeats - good managers don't do that. Andy King used to do that to Ifil every week and never did him any harm........oh actually Jerel has gone from a nervous wreck to our best player since King left. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 22:58:13 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.he doesn't know how to be a football manager. maybe?maybe not? its not a cut and dried issue is it? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Spud on Tuesday, January 1, 2008, 22:59:42 He's done ok but i'd still sooner see someone with proper managerial experience come in.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:10:02 Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.he doesn't know how to be a football manager. maybe?maybe not? its not a cut and dried issue is it? i read it sonic.and i aint picking fuck all, i'm giving an opinion and asking questions.nothing more.just because my opinion differs, dont come the high and mighty.are you now the judge and jury on everything? and what makes you right?how do you know he doesn't know how to be a manager?you have an opinion on it but it doesn't necesarily make it right.you've given your take on byrne above so we all must pander to the great sonic youth eh?and not say anything different to the high and mighty one? unless byrne is given the job we wont know will we? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:27:30 Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? no Mourinho is.... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:29:19 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? no Mourinho is.... and i'd love it if he was our boss.imagine it.the mind boggles :D happy new year by the way dv. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:37:59 I feel like I keep repeating myself time and again. In my opinion (and yes, its an opinion), David Byrne is not the man who matches the criteria for Fitton's three year vision of Championship consolidation.
He is doing a solid caretaker role right now, with some good results and performances, and some poor results and performances. Could we afford to take a risk on him to the end of the season? Ideally not, but if Fitton can't get his man, then so be it. And anyone thinking we're safe from relegation (as I'm sure I read above), well you've lost the plot big time there..... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:41:07 if he was to get the job i reckon he'd have got it by now.fittons deffo trying elsewhere(actually i think he is)
if it falls through then who knows? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:49:52 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? no Mourinho is.... and i'd love it if he was our boss.imagine it.the mind boggles :D happy new year by the way dv. happy new year you grumpy bastard. like to see you try and kick me :D Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 00:52:55 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? no Mourinho is.... and i'd love it if he was our boss.imagine it.the mind boggles :D happy new year by the way dv. happy new year you grumpy bastard. like to see you try and kick me :D got no pace anymore,but class is permanant.your lot only get out of their half when they kick off anyway. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 01:06:57 thats not true....
....sometimes the other team pass it back to their defenders. Think the teams pulling out the league because its beyond a joke now. Not worth it when you struggle to get 11 'bodies' each week, let alone actual players Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 01:07:38 ...also, we kick off alot 8)
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 01:08:05 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "SY" Quote from: "arriba" byrne knows his stuff.that is not in question imo.what is in question is.is he the best man for the job? he knows how to coach a group of players, yes.he doesn't know how to be a football manager. maybe?maybe not? its not a cut and dried issue is it? i read it sonic.and i aint picking fuck all, i'm giving an opinion and asking questions.nothing more.just because my opinion differs, dont come the high and mighty.are you now the judge and jury on everything? and what makes you right?how do you know he doesn't know how to be a manager?you have an opinion on it but it doesn't necesarily make it right.you've given your take on byrne above so we all must pander to the great sonic youth eh?and not say anything different to the high and mighty one? unless byrne is given the job we wont know will we? when have i ever said that my opinion is worth more than anyone elses? i certainly don't think that, fuck knows why you do. i thought you were being deliberately facetious and i couldn't be bothered playing along. anyway, as i said - he's got plenty of coaching experience, has he ever been a football manager for a significant period of time? i wouldn't even suggest he's been terribly impressive at the caretaker job he's been doing, he's made some fundamental mistakes and foolish errors - both of which are part of a steep learning curve but why should we give him the benefit of time, money and support when he's shown little to warrant that? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 01:10:45 Plus to add to Sonics point, we all still have nightmares of Iffy Onoura, Aaron Brown and Trevor fucking Benjamin!!!
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 01:17:32 i'm actually a little bit insulted and upset that anyone would think i'm trying to be "high and mighty" or that my opinion is more worthwhile than others. half the time i talk utter shit but i at least make the effort to back that shit up with some logic and/or reason!
i'll go have a little cry and watch the cricket, you fucking bully. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: herthab on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 06:18:47 Byrne done a reasonable job for us since Sturrock left (Thank fuck we didn't have to rely solely on Ady again) and we haven't dropped like a stone towards the relegation zone.
If it was before Fitton, I'd say he deserves a chance to prove himself, but it's not. Harsh I know.................... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 08:45:13 Adi Whitbread was sat behind me who I believe was closely linked to a certain Martin Allan at Leicester... :shock:
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 11:42:36 Quote from: "SY" i'm actually a little bit insulted and upset that anyone would think i'm trying to be "high and mighty" or that my opinion is more worthwhile than others. half the time i talk utter shit but i at least make the effort to back that shit up with some logic and/or reason! i'll go have a little cry and watch the cricket, you fucking bully. likewise i was pissed off that you thought i was looking for an arguement.i cannot see how you came to that conclusion? i wasn't even disagreeing with you, just raising questions.you then made a wild and inaccurate assumption and i bit Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 12:00:17 I believe that Byrne is learning as a manager as well .. something I never mentioned before
YES we had some bad results early on .. but he is a rookie - but sometimes rookies become top bosses ... what about that bloke at Scunthorpe? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Colin Todd on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 13:14:08 fickle bastards.
An experienced new manager please. Byrne back to the yoofs. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 13:19:03 Quote from: "triseros" Adi Whitbread was sat behind me who I believe was closely linked to a certain Martin Allan at Leicester... :shock: he was also assistant to allen at Franchise Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 14:58:52 hadwin never picked up that hockaday who was also there on sat with whitbread joined Franchise coaching staff last year and moved with him and allen to leicester.
slightly worrying edit just noticed hockaday was taken on by southampton as youth manager not long back so might not be as bad as i first thought but im sure hockaday and whitbread would be up for working with allen here if he was offered the job,due to their swindon connections but god i hope i'm wrong Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 15:54:11 Perhaps it was 2 swindon old boys watching their old team and catching up at new year.....
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: @MacPhlea on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 16:12:26 Whether it be League 2 MKD or Championship Leicester/Southampton there can only be one of two reasons why they were there - Scouting with a view to a purchase or information gathering with a view to an interview...
They certainly weren't scouting for a forthcoming game with any of those teams... Make of that what you will... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: broomfield on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 16:25:49 I'm sure that Hockaday and his wife were there as guests of David Byrne...
It was being discussed in Reception when i passed thro Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 17:48:00 I reckon Allen might have an interview. Whitbread has been to 2 home games now. Must be doing some homework for Allen.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 17:53:05 Cotterill was at Bournemouth as he mentioned it on Sky
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 17:57:15 I was at the game yesterday....hmmm.
I wonder what I was doing there. Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: figgis on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:18:39 Seb coe was there. fact
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:40:40 Quote from: "figgis" Seb coe was there. fact Tory Cunt. fact Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: figgis on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:42:43 tory cunt fact. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: by all accounts hes a front funner for the job.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: herthab on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:43:57 Quote from: "figgis" tory cunt fact. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: by all accounts hes a front funner for the job. What job? Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: figgis on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:45:37 my job i expect. im on the club.
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:54:51 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "figgis" tory cunt fact. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: by all accounts hes a front funner for the job. What job? The Swindon job Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: DV on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:56:08 the job is mine, I was seen at the game yesterday. It all makes sense if you think about it....
Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: herthab on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 19:56:44 Oh, it was a joke!
Prefer Steve Ovett myself......... Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 20:00:56 Quote from: "herthab" Oh, it was a joke! Prefer Steve Ovett myself......... You will never beat the power of "The Foster" Title: David Byrne for Manager? Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, January 2, 2008, 22:58:27 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "herthab" Oh, it was a joke! Prefer Steve Ovett myself......... You will never beat the power of "The Foster" Unless you are Lasse Viren. NMH |