Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 13:35:24 Who do you think will be the next England Manager?
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Danjackson10 on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 13:39:34 I personally want jose but I got a feeling its gonna be Capello!?
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 13:48:44 how about none of the above?
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: McLovin on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 13:49:50 i'd love Klinsmann!
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Arriba on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 13:57:01 steve coppell my first pick.failing that then harry redknapp
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 13:57:11 If Ferguson wasn't a bloody egg (drunk, cunt, manager of utd etc...) he would be the ideal candidate. Even on a part-time basis he would have been better than the balding buffoon McLaren who is one man I have never rated.
Even back at Middlesbrough he spent a lot of money, assembled a fairly good squad but when it came to the big games he was out thought every single time. Plus he lacked the personality and respect within the game to handle and get the most out of that squad of peacocks so his departure has not come to soon. I tell thee getting rid of Sven was a right cock up in favour of old ginger. Anyway, back to the future and I think we’ll see the summer out without a new gaffer before one from either Big Phil, O’Neil or as a very long shot Jose are appointed. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Batch on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:00:21 SCOLARI for me - proven international track record. I don't think there is any chance he'll do it though.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: neville w on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:02:40 I reckon they'll wait until after the Euros next year and then pick Hiddink up
We'll make do with Stuart Pearce as a caretaker until then Title: Next England Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:11:24 PSYCHO FOR ENGLAND!
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: genf_stfc on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:11:40 they would be idiots to pick someone now anyway (which doesn't rule it out of course)
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:28:48 I want Stuart Pearce, though he has a poor track record in league football he would get them playing with passion.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:31:30 I'd like it to be Jose, but don't think he will be. Redknapp would be a good shout.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:36:03 I think we should perhaps fo the route the Germans took with Klinsman and appoint someone completely new to management who's going to have no pre-conceptions about anything.
We're not going to play any competitive games for a while now so he'd have a period where all that matters is that a team in assebled that can play football together. Don't know for sure who I'd pick but Shearer would be as good a place to start as any I suppose, I just want someone who's going to grab the bull by the horns ask what the fuck is wrong with them, some of this squad were around during his time as a player with England and would respect him hugely. It may not work but I really think we should go for broke and try something completely different. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:51:45 I have heard rumours that Alan Shearer has thrown his hat into the ring for exactly these reasons. Maybe him and Stuart Peace as his assistant...just for that passion factor that has sadly been missing. I would make all of them sing the national anthem for starters! and if a player refuses a call up ala Bentley/Sutton a few years back I would not let him back as every player shoudl be willing to give his all for his national side.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Foggy on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:54:18 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" PSYCHO FOR ENGLAND! Great Choice Gazza, Won fuck all as a player,won fuck all as a manager and has the technical ability of an ant. Plus points are that he can do Pizza adverts and listens to the stranglers. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: chalkies_shorts on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 14:57:10 In an ideal world I'd go for Wenger but on the basis that he wouldn't take it then I'd go for Lippi. He's free and he's won the World Cup. I don't think any of the English candidates have enough quality.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: fatbury on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 15:05:48 I want Otto Rehagel :)
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: DMR on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 15:06:26 Wenger or Mourhino would be fantastic but I can't see either wanting the job. Of realistic candidates I'd be pleased enough with Klinsmann once I got over the fact he's a kraut, or Capello. Martin O'Neill would be OK as he'd inject a bit of enthusiasm.
Scolari tried to hold us to ransom last time then bottled the job- fuck him. I'd be annoyed if Pearce or Shearer got the job - both are far too inexperienced and Pearce did a crap job at at MC anyway. If we wound up with Allardyce, Curbishley or Coppell I'd really go off on one. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 15:21:01 JOSE MORINHO! JOSE MORINHO! JOSE MORINHO! JOOOOSSE MA-RIEEEEE-KNEE-O!!!!
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 16:41:50 I'm not sure it really matters unless there's a big attitude change in English football. Not only players and clubs, but also with fans and the media.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 17:38:05 Quote from: "flammableBen" I'm not sure it really matters unless there's a big attitude change in English football. Not only players and clubs, but also with fans and the media. Wise words oh Flammable one....all those hours spent in the CGH garden while the rest of us are at the match have obviously not been wasted. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 17:40:32 Quote from: "flammableBen" I'm not sure it really matters unless there's a big attitude change in English football. Not only players and clubs, but also with fans and the media. i wholeheartedly concur my learned friend.Title: Next England Manager? Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 17:42:58 Fuck off Ben, you're boring, change the record.
Oh no sorry you're allowed to make such comments as you support england. It's only when others say this sort of thing some people get upset/annoyed. :wink: Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Spud on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 17:48:38 Fabio Capello is odds on favourite to get the job.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: herthab on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 17:52:57 As I was confidant we'd get through last night, my opinion is obviously worthless, but I'd like 'Arry to be given a chance.
Maclaren deserved to go as he didn't achieve his objective but it's a shame the players get off free as it was their performances that cost us. Listening to Roy Keanes thoughts, I think he's got it bang on. Nothing will change though, as soon as the new guy gets a bad result he'll be hung, drawn and quartered. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: DV on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:03:22 if it isnt mourinho, its the wrong decision.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:19:36 Houllier would be my preferred choice.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: adje on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:31:19 The FA should choke on their pride and beg the man who they should never have sacked in the first place to come back-Town legend Glenn Hoddle
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:32:10 Quote from: "DV" if it isnt mourinho, its the wrong decision. Mourinho's ruled himself out. I'm beginning to warm to the idea of Capello or Lippi Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:33:25 Quote from: "adje" The FA should choke on their pride and beg the man who they should never have sacked in the first place to come back-Town legend Glenn Hoddle Agreed...otherwise Martin O'Neill. Wouldn't mind Mourinho, but I don't believe he'll want the job. Don't want Scolari or Capello. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:33:59 What about Alex Mcleish? He has done a great job with some second and third rate players, imagine what he could do with some World Class talent??
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:35:25 HODDLE?!
hoddle? dearie me Title: Next England Manager? Post by: adje on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:41:39 Look at his record as England boss
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: cib on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 18:41:53 I dont think there are any english managers 'good enough' for the job. O'Neill would be someone who would be alrite, but he'd not leave villa now. I saw Steve Coppell hasn't ruled himself, i somehow think thats just journo's making something out of nothing.
Personally, i'd like Mourinho to be the next manager but i expect it'll be someone crazy like Redknapp. Plus there's no rush so the FA should choose wisely Title: Next England Manager? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 20:08:18 ROY KEANE
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 20:14:16 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" ROY KEANE I'd prefer for the FA to decide to no longer bother with an England side than have Roy Keane as manager. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Spud on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 20:34:51 I think Paul Ince was pissed up when he told the BBC that they should appoint Glenn Hoddle! :nuts:
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 20:43:56 sheeeeeeeeeeeearer
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 20:47:03 The more I think about it O'Neil has to be a favourite. Excellent cup record at Leicester and Celtic, which is the nature of the beast with International football.
I see Jose has been indireclt ruled out on the old Beeb. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: yeo on Thursday, November 22, 2007, 20:51:24 Brian Clough or Kingy 8)
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Saturday, November 24, 2007, 18:03:33 Fuck all this passion shit, Pearce or Shearer would be horrible choices as manager - assistant maybe, we don't want anyone inexperienced or without any major achievements. It's no big deal that O'Neill, Mark Hughes, Curbishley and Allardyce aren't interested, they wouldn't be right anyway. What we need is one of the very best managers in the world with a proven track record of winning major competitions - Mourinho would be ideal, I still hope he can be convinced but if not Benitez would be a good choice.
I've always rated Redknapp, he is one of the best managers in the premiership with a great record but I don't think he's had enough success in Europe to be a good choice. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 12:36:02 Mourinho would play shit 4-5-1 football but get results.
I'd like to see someone appointed that would suit the 'English style game'. Kingy or Houllier it is then :D Title: Next England Manager? Post by: jayohaitchenn on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 14:14:24 Mourinho says no.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7107060.stm Title: Next England Manager? Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 14:28:01 So we can arrange a friendly for February as well as the game in March?
I think it would make sense to sit and think about it, appoint somebody after Christmas, then play in February and March so they can get an idea of their preferred team Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Ralphy on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 14:43:53 Gazza. :D
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Lumps on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 19:01:10 Quote from: "sonic youth" HODDLE?! hoddle? dearie me Yeah imagine appointing someone who had a 100% qualification record; had a clear idea of the pattern of play he wanted, but understood the need to change that during the course of the game as required; that picked players that actually suited the positions and roles he needed in each game, and made sure the players understood what was needed from them. England looked a good side under Hoddle. He was unfortunate that he managed the national side at the time between the end of Gazza as a useful international player, and the emergence of that Rooney lad. It left him with a squad that he could organise into a team capable of both defending effectively and playing passing football, but unable to find a way through a well drilled defence. If you'd needed more than a point in that Italy away qualifier for the '98 WC he'd probably have been screwed. Most of England's problems in taking that step further in the international game, getting past the QF and SF stages come down to this one factor. You have such a paucity of players in midfield and attack that have more than one effective option when they recieve the ball. Gazza, (and Beardsley, Waddle and Hoddle himself before him) could receive a ball in midfield and have a choice - do I carry it forward and beat my man, or do I ping a pass to a teammate. It made him a fuck sight more difficult to defend against. British football hasn't produced anyone that can dribble as well as Gazza since. Rooney's not bad, and after that Joe Cole I suppose, (although successive managers at club and national level have done their best to knock dribbling out of Cole's game). Wide players in the British game now are pretty much out and out speed merchants like SWP, who don't have anything like that sort of close control. Beckham of course is the exception, but he's a one off. Not a winger at all (having neither pace or a single trick to beat a full back), but a fabulous long passer of the ball. Most of the so-called "crosses" that Beckham delivers are curving diagonal balls from deep positions. I can't remember more than 2 or 3 occasions when I've seen Beckham make it to the dead ball line and deliver a square or cut back ball. I'm not certain what's causing this poverty of talent in the British game, not just the English, but I'm guessing that it might have someing to do with the way in which kids play football now. When I was a kid, (I know I now run the risk of sounding like Ron Manager), most of the football we played was unorganised. It was casual games with gangs of mates on the street or any patch of grass. Kids would happily showboat during games like this and no-one complained. Now, even for quite young kids of 7 and 8, football is some sort of organised event. (My nephew, who's 16 now and at the Ciren Academy, was playing and training with teams 3/4 times a week from about the age of 7.) So we've gone from kids having the freedom to be flash, to them being coached in pass and move, pass and move, (if they're lucky and not being coached to knock it long to the big lad) right from the off. I know that the FA has tried very hard to impress on those coaching kids that the emphasis should be less on competitive success and more on the development of skills but franly it isn't fucking working. Brazil seem to manage it through the widespread use of Fussball de Salon in their youth coaching. Maybe that would be worth a try? Title: Next England Manager? Post by: DV on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 19:12:01 you're right, the coaching at grass roots over here is done terribly. We as a nation, even at grass roots seem to care more about results.
On Holland, they play Mini Soccer 4 a side up till the age of 14. One Defender, Two Midfielders and One Striker - each week they rotate positions so everyone plays every where and no one gets pidgeoned holed into a set position till the age of 15. It also means less emphasis on winning, formations, tactics and rules and more on the players ability. Scotland, within the last couple of years have changed they way they coach at grass roots level to a more european style and it seems to be working. I also agree about the wingers, it may seem like an odd and daft thing to say....but as a winger myself I used to love watching Stuart Ripley play. In his Blackburn days he was quality. He'd stay out on the touch line.....get the ball, run at the full back get back him, get to the byline and cross it in. Usually resulted with a headed goal from Shearer. Blackburn has Jason Wilcox down the otherside and its one of the factors that made them a good team. Manchester United were the same. Giggs down one side and Kanchelkis down the other - proper wingers, albeit not english in this case. England do lack a proper old fashion winger... Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 19:16:11 I see Houllier and Schuster are both being linked now. Even Andy King will be linked next. I hope.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, November 25, 2007, 19:23:04 We have a good "proper" left winger in stewart downing. Its just another case of a player not performing for england as they do for their clubs. If downing and bentley could consistently perform aswell as they can, thats the winger situation solved
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Lumps on Monday, November 26, 2007, 10:48:12 Quote from: "STFC dave" We have a good "proper" left winger in stewart downing. Its just another case of a player not performing for england as they do for their clubs. If downing and bentley could consistently perform aswell as they can, thats the winger situation solved No it wouldn't because only having one player to pick in each position is not good enough for a national side that hopes to actually do anything. That's the problem you've got at the back, and look how bad things are when Cole, Terry and Ferdinand aren't available. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Monday, November 26, 2007, 11:01:08 Quote from: "jayohaitchenn" Mourinho says no. Mourinho has not actually said anything about the job, this is all speculation, that's why the wording is just "BBC Sport understands", nothing official.http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7107060.stm Title: Next England Manager? Post by: McLovin on Monday, November 26, 2007, 12:09:12 The best football England have played in recent years was under Hoddle. I'd have him back.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Lumps on Monday, November 26, 2007, 12:24:10 Quote from: "McLovin" The best football England have played in recent years was under Hoddle. I'd have him back. Fuck that I want him back here. The bloody England team can sort themselves out. Title: Next England Manager? Post by: McLovin on Monday, November 26, 2007, 12:34:16 Good point!
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, November 26, 2007, 14:47:09 Van Gaal would take England job
Former Holland coach Louis van Gaal has declared an interest in becoming the next England manager. The Dutchman has been in charge at AZ Alkmaar since 2005 and has also had spells in charge of Barcelona and Ajax. Van Gaal, 56, said there is a clause in his AZ contract which allows him to leave for a national team post. He said: "There are many candidates but I'm willing to do it, otherwise I would not have a clause in my contract about a head coach's job of a national team." The Football Association has begun the search for a successor to Steve McClaren, who was sacked on Thursday following England's failure to reach the Euro 2008 finals. A number of high-profile candidates have already said they do not want the job - a post that Van Gaal claims he was offered once before. "I was asked a few years ago (to take charge of England) but then I said no," he said. "Maybe they will call me again now but I understand they (the Football Association) have other things on their minds, like digesting the fact they have not qualified for the finals of Euro 2008. "I know the chance of becoming England coach isn't that big." Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, November 26, 2007, 15:40:09 Jurgen Klinsmann has signalled his potential interest in becoming England manager - although it is thought that he would want control over the selection of his backroom team
That would mean he tries to poach Bierhoff, Kopke, Sammer - then I hope he doesn't get the job. I cannot imagine they would give it to one of us though Title: Next England Manager? Post by: Ralphy on Monday, November 26, 2007, 16:16:23 A German in charge of England!
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: otanswell on Monday, November 26, 2007, 22:59:10 Quote from: "Ralphy" A German in charge of England! why not? he did alright with the krauts...i think he would do well.. fuck all this allardyce bollocks, he cant sign players on free transfers! Title: Next England Manager? Post by: redbullzeye on Monday, November 26, 2007, 23:20:04 I'm probably completely wrong but I would like an englishman to manage England. Looking at the available candidates I'd go for Venables with Shearer and Pierce as understudies. I know they've just sacked TV but the players and the press are on his side so would be a good stop gap so some humble pie eating should be done. We had a great Euro 96 and apart from personal dodgy dealings I never understood why Venables was shown the door anyway.
Title: Next England Manager? Post by: axs on Monday, November 26, 2007, 23:25:35 i don't care what nationality he is as long as it's a good manager.
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