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england need  a point, croatia are already qualified...

i can see a 1-0 defeat at which point the entire country implodes due to the national team's failure to qualify.

i think they'll scrape through in embarassing fashion. which i suppose is unavoidable in a way (otehr than not qualifying that is)

We will qualify. just to piss the scots off! Still if we do qualify McLaren has to go although this won't happen as "he would have done his job"

Not saying it will be an easy game at all but I think we'll get the draw atleast. The players KNOW they have to earn this one

where is everyone going to watch this ?

Walkabout as there may be an atmosphere there!

5-0 us.

Wembley for me.

We'll go through.

Remember when Robson failed to get us to Euro 84? Everyone called for his head, especially the pathetic tossers in the press, he hung on by the skin of his teeth and got us to a game away from a World Cup Final.

Too much knee-jerking amongst England fans, if we beat Croatia by 2 goals we'll come top of our group................................................

England fans are fucking useless anyway, most of us wanted Keegan, remember how well we did under him?

i'm working  :evil:

3-0 win for me

 I don't really remember it.....but back then the Euro was a much smaller event, and football wasn't in the least trendy.  You could watch an England game in a pub, largely free of part timers and armchair Prem tossers.

 86 WC and 88 Euros being the last such occasions.

True. Without the success in Italia 90, would football be as big, commercially, as it is now in England? Without the commercial success, would The Premiership have ever been conceived: spawning millions of armchair fans, mega rich footballers, subscription TV and all the hype and hysteria that's become associated with it?

Dunno myself, but it's a thought innit?

  I blame Pavarotti.

Not sure I'll bother

booo

Fucking disgraceful mate - booing your team before they kick off

Im in hospital tomorrow so not going to the smoke, so will be looking to partake in a couple when I get out

You boo boys make me sick.

I'll probably end up watching it at home, though there is a chance I'll head out and find some female company. Problem is I'm worse at scoring than England

me too

i assumed you had to be single to post on here.

You do mate

The difference being robson had proved himself at club level by then, unlike mclaren

I didn't want Keegan, though I did think he'd do better than he did...

As for tomorrow, yes we'll qualify but I can't see it being enjoyable at all.

When it comes to McClaren I think it's best he was got rid of at the weekend, I don't want to upset Jan and Daucher but we should have qualified already - and that's not to say that the other teams are all shit and all England should have had to do was turn up to the games.  

Teams expect to beat other teams that they should be beating all time but when you look at the likes of Man Utd you see that they make sure they win those games - England haven't, and that for me has been McClaren's legacy as England manager, there's been no spark about the team since he's been in charge and that has to be down to the manager.

People will say all sorts about players not giving a shit about internationals now, especially if they're being successful in the Champions' League but what about all those foreign lads that do the business at both Premiership and international level?

It's seemed like something has been wrong with the coaching setup for ages and for me McClaren has done nothing to demonstrate he's changed anything since Eriksson left so for me that's it and it's time for a complete overhaul before it's too late for us to go into the tournament feeling like we can at least play some good football.

We're not going to win 2008, I'm not about to start saying we will just because we're England but we're not going to come close in 2010 or 2012 unless the setup for this tournament is right, that's my opinion and in some way we can use the Scots' campaign as proof.  The Scots will now go into the WC qualifiers beleiving they can qualify, they know they'll have to work for it but there's no way they will consider themselves underdogs.

England's problem is that they never see themselves as underdogs, but unlike others they haven't done the professional things that win games against the lower ranked nations, again, that is not supposed to sound ignorant or elitest, it's just the truth.

If anyone fancies a laugh you can watch me play netball instead?  :D

Sorry Birdy, I have to play pool during the game, luckily we're at pretty much the only pub in our league that has the footy on in the same room as the pool.  :)

I agree, lets start anther arguement with the resident sweaties and krauts :D

I think we'll get a draw tomorrow, probably 1-1. It wont be pretty or convincing though.

If we had all our best players available and in top form i'd say we'd have a chance of winning the thing - that's simply not going to happen under McLaren though. We'll probably be shit, scrape through the group stage  and get beat 2nd round by someone half decent

We'll go thru' by the skin of our teeth, last minute equiliser or something.

Beckham freekick anyone?

thats a bit greek.

Was that meant to read 'beautiful' or was it intended to read 'gre.ek' axs?

Presumably the latter?

yes indeed, i've been fB'd.

that doesn't intentionally rhyme by the way.

having slept on my 3-0 win prediction I have now had a rethink and I now think it will be a 0-0 draw!

of course they will, lucky gits had a hell of a let off but will now qualify.
As long as we beat Wales I'll be happy

If you dont beat a team that were trounced 3-1 by Cyprus I would be very very surprised!

Please don't nod off this afternoon then!

have watched our match at Cardiff so would I, but we did lose to the Czechs

piss easy 3-0 or 4-1 or something going to a be a great day out

vision-89th minute,1-0 down,Joe Cole takes an outrageous dive on the edge of the box,Ref falls for it,Beckham(on as sub for a lacklustre SWP) steps up ....and in true Beckham style,hammers it into the wall like 99% of all his free kicks,and out we go!