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Well.

It appears as though todays ref was at best incompetent, and at worst bias. Could well have cost us a point or maybe even 3.

We can rant and rave and even in the very very unlikely event of an apology from the FA, it is still points lost which could potentially see us miss out on the playoffs at the end of the season.

Manager's are not allowed to say anything about them at all, and so "Quality control" is purely down to the FA.

The thing that angers me is that this is "only" STFC in "only" a lower leauge game which won't anger many people other than us, and will therefore be swept under the carpet.

TOSSERS

I can completely understand where you're coming from.

However, this isn't the first time this has happened for Swindon, or any other team for that matter.

Its a very sad fact of football, but I see very little that can be done about it.

Oh, apart from lining up all the shit refs and taking to their kneecaps with sledgehammers.

What actually happens to a ref after a perfomance like that??

In terms of discipliniary action I mean.

I'm not sure. It wouldn't surprise me if they had no system in place for the lower leagues, and only took matters into their (the FA) hands when it comes to a Premier League match, because nobody cares about League 1 do they.

Having listened to his post-match interview, I don't think Luggy will put in a complaint, so its not really an issue.

Because he can't, that's the point innit!

If you were at the game, request the assessor's report from the FA.

After the Chelse Everton debacle, I think that the FA cannot defend taking action, provided the fans who were at the game send written complaints to the FA being very specific about the incidents, while contacting the media to ensure that it is in the news that the FA is receiving a barrage of legitimate complaints.

Although I wasn't at the game, I think I get the drift.

However, the thing I like best about Luggy is that he never moans about referees.  Even today, "I'd rather talk about the football......".  Dignity and class.  I'm sure his private reaction was a little different.

If referees are genuinely shit, biased or blind the relevant authorities will and do take action.

We live in a culture where it's usually someone else's fault.  Sturrock sets us all an example: take responsibility for what you can change, don't waste your time arguing about what you cannot.

I think it says it all that Kelvin Morton, one of the worst refs ever, ended up as a referees assessor.

The refs have been bad at almost all the games i've been to this season.As fans we just want some consistency,but they always seem to be picky bastards who think we've paid our money to watch them and not the game :x  

Sadly it seems as if its never going to change,no matter how we rant about it,just have to hope we get some dodgy decisions go our way,which i'm sure they will :)

For what its worth, listening to Radio Leeds on the way back, Eddie Gray said the ref was poor, their penalty was at best debatable and he thought the ref was influenced by the crowd and that Swindons penalty shout was a much better bet than was Leeds.

And - what happened to the 4 minutes added on?

For what its worth, listening to Radio Leeds on the way back, Eddie Gray said the ref was poor, their penalty was at best debatable and he thought the ref was influenced by the crowd and that Swindons penalty shout was a much better bet than was Leeds.

And - what happened to the 4 minutes added on?

The linesman , who was five yards away, flagged for handball, but not for a penalty.

The ref was yards away in a much worse position to tell whether it was inside or outside the box, gave the penalty immediately.

He gave us nothing all afternoon.

Agree it appears teams going to Elland road are playing against 14 men!!

Ref gave us nothing all afternoon, blatant pen not given and a perfectly good goal disallowed.


Cant see them losing a home game all season based on the officials performances. I know we aint been the only ones "conned" either looking at what happned to Leyton orient a few weeks back

the goal was disallowed for handball. Coxy in another of his "hand of god " moments. It wasn't a goal.

But the ref was ridiculously biased, every little decision went Leeds way.

I've just seen the highlights on SSN. I know its not the same as being there, but FWIW, here's my opinion.

1. The ball clearly hit Aljofree's arm INSIDE the area. It looked to me like he just raised his hands to protect his face and the ball hit it. 50% of refs wouldn't give it, but it looked like the ref had a clear view of something and proceeded to be a sheep and followed the home fans claims. Harsh decision, but I could see why it was given.

2. It looked to me like Coxy used his hand to palm the ball in the goal. Difficult to see clearly from the TV angle, but I've watched it several times and I'm more and more convinced he used some part of his hand/arm to deflect the ball into the net.

Harsh, robbed, cheated, whatever term you want. It doesn't fucking matter, its done now and we've lost. We'll beat them at the CG, and hopefully I'll be there.

Ref's are shit, fact.

Get used to it, it's not going to change.

That's true... But having such a biased ref is frustrating.

Ah well, it's done now, we played well and we'll probably thump Rovers next week anyway  :mrgreen:

Ok. We can't change anything by moaning but I'm so pissed off I'm gonna do it anyway.

I don't ever remember seeing that many players booked in a game fro mthe same team, and some of them were for tiny little offences worthy of nothing more than a blow of the whistle and carrying on.

Kandol tried to headbutt one of our players but the ref ignored it. One of their players booted the ball across the pitch and got nothing more than a ticking off, and there were also some dodgy tackles flying in from Leeds which went without a card.

I won't complain about the penalty, and for what its worth the goal was actually disallowed for offside (the ref did the whole pretending to draw a line signal). Just needed to get it off my chest...again

i thought it was a definite penalty, couldn't see what was happening with our disallowed goal but the bloke next to me was adamant the ref only disallowed it when their fans kicked up a fuss...

the ref was atrocious, eight bookings (7 for us, 1 for them) in a game that wasn't dirty is ridiculous. it's too easy for refs to hand out yellow cards as they don't deal with the reprecussions. we've had one decent ref this season.

I'm more concerned about the balance of cards rather than the number. Ok some against us were harsh but if he'd booked their players for the same offences it would have been ok. As it was he just let them do what the hell they liked

agreed, stonewall penalty, can't bleat about that one.

the one that narked me was when that cunt booted the ball away, he got his book out then put it away again! bottled all 50:50 decisions and gave them all the 60:40 swindon one's too, crazy

Yeah it's actually a madatory booking for that. The funniest/ angriest moment for me was when that Leeds player handled it in the D, then fouled Ifil, then Ifil ran off with the ball and the ref gave Leeds a free kick.

What was that all about?

He did bottle it.

And the Leeds player who thought he got fouled, picked the ball up, placed it down for a free kick - all BEFORE the ref blew for the free kick.

Agreed 100%. Spot on dude.

we lost.

get over it.

bristol rovers next.

Agreed 100%. Spot on dude.

The linesman had his flag up for offside instantly for our disallowed 'goal'.  It may also have been handball, don't know, but the flag was up for offside, rather than foul play.

The ref was generally a cunt (talk sport bloke ageed that we'd been robbed).

Leeds fans very quiet, unimaginative and poor.

Team played well, and we sang a lot (second half).

Road signs in Leeds are pointless at best, misleading at worst.  We saw one road sign that just said 'Leeds' on it...we were in fucking Leeds you twats, where is the bloody M1??! :evil:

Can't stand Leeds, but I'll be back again next year as we roll on to the League 1 title.

hehehehehehe

i've nothing else to say about the ref that hasn't been said already. he was awful but that's one of the factors that's annoyingly in football though isn't it?

 :mrgreen:

Completely forgot about that. Surely one of our players would have been within their rights to run off with the ball...play to the whistle and all that! Would have resulted in a booking though I guess.

There was also the moment where the Leeds player thought it had gone off for a throw, left it, and the town players carried on  8)

if you are in a shite division you expect sub-standard referees, it comes with the territory you just have to accept it. Look at the premiership most of those referees are shite as well

"Good point, well made" :wink:

Why Aljofree is moaning about the penalty decision I'll never know.  Why have your hands up there in the first place.  If it was the other way around I'd have wanted the penalty.

Be a man about it and accept the decision, what goes around comes around.

Shit decisions happen in football, for and against you.

Bring on the rovers!

It's not so much him being shit... It was him being completely inconsistent.

And what made me so angry is that the ref just went along with it!

I was raging because of that.

There is no offence for hand ball, the FIFA law is explicitly "deliberate hand ball".  If it is ball to hand, it's play on.  My biggest problem as a ref. is explaining what the rule actually states.