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Title: a rant
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:10:00
right, i know we got a draw etc etc and this is partly emboldened by a couple of bevvies and i'll probably withdraw half of this in the morning but;

1. brezovan- what a fucking shocker, first time i've seen him this year and good lord, has he forgotten how to kick? his english has presumable regressed as well as he didn't say one word to the defenders all night!

2. lee peacock- not all his fault because sturrock needs his head looking at for playing him wide, but for the love of god man TAKE A BLOODY SHOT! passion and commitment doesn't overrule no ability, awareness or pace.


3. aljofree, there's more to the fucking game than putting your left foot through the ball time and again, show a bit of control eh? all the drawbacks of ady williams but none of the plus points. how he's captain is beyond me.

4. what the hell was sturrock thinking? why not play roberts wide and peacock central, or drop lee altogether and play pook? where the hell did adams come from? didn't change it until the horse had pretty much bolted either.

5. paynter and cox- resting on their laurels, dip in form or sheer ineptitude?

we had players falling over, tackling each other, no communication at all, it was dross. minges was appalling, as was JPM down the right, they Vut through us at will down that flank.

the only reason we didn't get stuffed is because we had a decent ref and orient seemed intent on giving the ball away as much as us.

oh, and sign that adam boyd, he's skill.

sorry all. phew!


Title: a rant
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:12:02
What a load of fucking shite Russell.


Title: a rant
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:18:00
Maybe. Don't know why but that was one of the most annoying performances I've seen.

Thing is, I went with someone who hardly ever goes and he doesn't want to come back now!


Title: Re: a rant
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:27:04
Quote from: "dave_m_russell"
right, i know we got a draw etc etc and this is partly emboldened by a couple of bevvies and i'll probably withdraw half of this in the morning but;

1. brezovan- what a fucking shocker, first time i've seen him this year and good lord, has he forgotten how to kick? his english has presumable regressed as well as he didn't say one word to the defenders all night!

2. lee peacock- not all his fault because sturrock needs his head looking at for playing him wide, but for the love of god man TAKE A BLOODY SHOT! passion and commitment doesn't overrule no ability, awareness or pace.


3. aljofree, there's more to the fucking game than putting your left foot through the ball time and again, show a bit of control eh? all the drawbacks of ady williams but none of the plus points. how he's captain is beyond me.

4. what the hell was sturrock thinking? why not play roberts wide and peacock central, or drop lee altogether and play pook? where the hell did adams come from? didn't change it until the horse had pretty much bolted either.

5. paynter and cox- resting on their laurels, dip in form or sheer ineptitude?

we had players falling over, tackling each other, no communication at all, it was dross. minges was appalling, as was JPM down the right, they Vut through us at will down that flank.

the only reason we didn't get stuffed is because we had a decent ref and orient seemed intent on giving the ball away as much as us.

oh, and sign that adam boyd, he's skill.

sorry all. phew!
I don't see how having a decent ref can help us get a point out of the game?!


Title: a rant
Post by: DV on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:28:09
1. Brez isnt the same keeper, but he was 10 times better than he was the last two games

2. I agree, its not just Peacock though - none of our players wanted to shoot today

3. Utter Shite. Aljofree is class and does more than just hoof it forward.

4. Drop Peacock and play Pook - what the fuck are you thinking? I thought Adams played well. I was a bit bemused by the line up but the idea was clearly to play the ball to Peacock on the left to flick inside to Cox and Paynter.

5. Nope, up against better defensive. Bournemouth, Gillingham and Millwall or Tranmere, Doncaster and Orient


Title: a rant
Post by: DMR on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:31:11
pook's a better bet to play on the wing than peacock because the latter can't run 2 yards without sliding or falling over.


Title: a rant
Post by: DV on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 00:44:04
Ummm, just no.

Personally I wouldnt have either on the wing, but given the choice it would be Peacock.

Again, he was there for a reason.

On saturday we played the diagonal ball alot and Zaaboub got no where near it. He was out there purely for his areial ability - on which Pook has very little.

Although, again I wouldnt play Pook on the wing at all.


Title: a rant
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 01:33:27
Quote from: "DV"
On saturday we played the diagonal ball alot and Zaaboub got no where near it. He was out there purely for his areial ability - on which Pook has very little.


spot on.

peacock won pretty much everything in the air tonight, zaaboub won pretty much nothing in the air on saturday. although why we play that diagonal ball to zaaboub in the first place i'm not sure.

it's all a bit andy gurney, innit?

anyway...aljofree is a class act, safety comes first and nine times out of ten i'd rather see him boot it into row Z than attempt anything fancy. he's very good on the ball for a central defender.

brez's handling improved, his kicking worsened. perhaps he can't do two things at once?

cox was knackered as he chased everything like a dog on heat, paynter looked as if his mind was elsewhere and short on confidence. very poor, i'd drop him for corr if the big irishman is ready to start games.

didn't think comminges was too bad, fairly average.

orient wouldn't have stuffed us if we played a team of cripples


Title: a rant
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 01:49:43
Jeez get a room  :|


Title: a rant
Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 10:10:35
The whole 'long ball to Peacock on the wing' is a bit of a boring tactic though. Some of Orients one touch, give and go's were nice to watch (even if it was carving through Aljofree)


Title: a rant
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 12:05:01
If a stands for anal and by rant you mean rape then I say yes. Go for it.


Title: a rant
Post by: my-velocity on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 12:11:52
You haven't got a clue dave!


Title: a rant
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 12:27:36
Quote from: "my-velocity"
You haven't got a clue dave!


Entitled to his opinion whether you agree with it or not though! I don't really agree with him tbh, rarely do but I can see where he's coming from on a few... Harsh on Aljofree on Adams IMO.


Title: a rant
Post by: juddie on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 13:36:43
agree and disagree. Brez wasn't great but like somone else said, is getting better and FFS - he's been out for ages, he's bound to be rusty.

Minges was poor - but why the bloke behind me kept shouting 'useless' every time he touched the ball, I'll never know. Cos that helps...

Ifil: another monumental performance.

Aljofree: excellent awareness, good in the air - distribution mainly hoofed. We need to keep the ball on the floor.

Zaboub: he was immense, looked good on the ball, livedly, tracked back - excellent display.

My main criticism comes in midfield. We never look likely to control the pace of the game. It looked like we played with three centrally (Peacock kept coming in) with JP on the right. Opponents are alwasy gonan try and cut supply to him off, so we needed someone on the other flank - why was roberts only brought on when we went a goal down?!

Up front we needed corr at half time, for whateve reason paytner and cox were off the boil - although cox's work rate was impressive. Paynter was poor IMO.


Title: a rant
Post by: juddie on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 13:37:05
agree and disagree. Brez wasn't great but like somone else said, is getting better and FFS - he's been out for ages, he's bound to be rusty.

Minges was poor - but why the bloke behind me kept shouting 'useless' every time he touched the ball, I'll never know. Cos that helps...

Ifil: another monumental performance.

Aljofree: excellent awareness, good in the air - distribution mainly hoofed. We need to keep the ball on the floor.

Zaboub: he was immense, looked good on the ball, livedly, tracked back - excellent display.

My main criticism comes in midfield. We never look likely to control the pace of the game. It looked like we played with three centrally (Peacock kept coming in) with JP on the right. Opponents are alwasy gonan try and cut supply to him off, so we needed someone on the other flank - why was roberts only brought on when we went a goal down?!

Up front we needed corr at half time, for whateve reason paytner and cox were off the boil - although cox's work rate was impressive. Paynter was poor IMO.


Title: a rant
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 14:30:49
Paynter was poor, but the ball was being punted at his head a lot and he was coming deep so the ball was being played to his feet. Playing against a defender like Mkandawire he was always gonna be up against it... He seemed like his head was elsewhere at times, unusual for Billy.


Title: a rant
Post by: kevjoycreed on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 18:14:47
Brez = Better than last 2 games, seems low on confidence so hopefully will continue to improve.
Minge = Poor positionally, but handled the pace of their No 20 (can't remember the name) well.
Ifil = Awsome in defence, Awfull in distribution (nuff said).
Aljofree = Agree with the safety first comment, keeps it simple and kills the threat. Distribution could be a bit more inventive.
Zaboub = Surprisingly good given the last few showings. Seemed mostly interested and Orient looked very uncomfortable when he ran at them.
JPM = Wingers belong on the wing, simple as. Drifted in far too much due to never getting the ball given to him in the right areas.
Easton = Another solid performance, chased everything got up and down from box to box, could have more of his chances.
Adams = Started Ok, made some really good challenges early on, clearly lacking in match fitness and therefore should have been replaced in the second half.
Peacock = Given the ridiculous position he was expected to play had a fairly good night. As DV said, he was put there to do a job and mostly did it, would have prefered to see him move infield to replace Adams with Roberts taking up the wide left.
Paynter = As others said, given the poor supply did Ok but has been better.
Cox = Worked his arse off again.

Corr = Won plenty in the air but Cox was dead on his feet by then and could not chase.
Pook = Did well, linked the back four to the front two well, worked hard, can't ask for much more given the short time he was on.
Roberts = Should have been on for longer.
 
To be fair both teams seemed fairly evenly matched, neither took their chances, both defended well and neither team got to grips with and bossed the centre of the field. Both teams played passages of really good give and go quick passing football but then lacked the inventiveness or clinical ability to finish the job off.
Not the best performance of the season, but I doubt it will be the worst.
Main positive.............................
At least they worked till the final whistle and got a point, lesser teams would have given up and accepted the defeat.


Title: a rant
Post by: adje on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 19:12:32
The game was crying out for Roberts


Title: a rant
Post by: Reeves for King on Wednesday, November 7, 2007, 23:42:04
I didn't go but from what I've read and seen sometimes this season I think Dave could be believed.