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Feel this might have been a bit harsh as posted it in spur of the moment last night.

Just basically think that he should be setting a better example thats all and definitely over did it last night.

Lets hope his fitness isn't affected should he return to the team anytime soon.

Can you elaborate Lady?

Meh, I may not turn up much at all but nowadays but I’ve always thought of Williams as the model lower league pro and he comes across as a decent fella.

Been on the sesh tonight Luce?

not tonight from what i heard, dazzza.

Out yes, plastered no.

Bloke made a prat of himself and everyone deserves to know.

After he left, ppl at the bar were saying what an idiot he made himself look.  

Disgraceful- and Luggy, please ensure you get rid of the cart horses and ensure the true leaders are retained.

The bar man was Cov fan and he had the same opinion.

What did he do though?

DWing on the bar?

the guys a professional sportsman trying to get back to full fitness, why is he out getting wrecked midweek? whether he embarrassed himself or not I don't think it's the right thing to do in his situation.

STFC says - making good progress towards first team return.

Being drunk thats fair enough, but off his face? - embarassing when others were commenting on his behaviour.

As for his "bird"..... jesus, desperate times.

I agree with you there, i was trying to figure out what he did to embarass himself. Obviously not training tomorrow. I wonder if any of the other usual suspects were out too.......

Nope only saw him, noone else.  Not sure who (what) he was with but jesus christ after seeing that I couldn't be more embarassed.

Even the girls who I was out with (hate footy and dont care about it and its players) mentioned what a state he was in.

Oh dear.

member of society in getting drunk shocker!

i can see it on the back of tomorrow's adver.

I was thinking front page

no doubt ppl will start slagging me for posting this and I agree players should be allowed to let their hair down, enjoy themselves etc. but IMO this is unacceptable in the situation.

The fact that a Cov fan was shocked says it all...........

i knew someone would post this.

nice to see you were there to see it...............

like i give a shit.

yes but you haven't actually said what he did, other than be drunk with a woman

i assume this hasn't suddenly become a crime

chill luce!

I see you have missed the point then.

a player supposedly nearing match fitness.........2 days prior to a matchday (on a hypothetical basis).......

others ackonowledging his behaviour and associating it directly to STFC.....  Not good press.

Oh and apologies for being pissed off with his behaviour.  It must have slipped my mind that its the norm.  Silly god damn me.  :o

he's not the first and he won't be the last.

too much free time, too much money, too much ego...apparently they mix well with alcohol.

personally, so long as they don't turn up hungover/pissed for a match i'm not terribly bothered but that's my humble opinion.

Agreed. As it doesn't effect his progression/fitness/game I don't care what they get upto. Everyone has a few too many now and again.

Oh and its not like he's out every week like some players.

You see I always disagree in this discussion with the opinion they should be allowed to go out and drink.

When given the privelige (yes thats right PRIVELIGE) to get paid to play football you should be looking after yourself, not getting wrecked mid week especially when your returning to fitness.

Yes its normal for everyday people to go out and get drunk but when your profession is based on your fitness, diet and maintaining a good image for your club its hardly oh well cant blame him hes just unwinding and relaxing.

One of the whole reasons of my dislike for Pook besides the fact hes an awful footballer is most weeks hes in the Spot strutting around using the fact hes a pro footballer as a chat up line, players with ego's on the lash every week are one of my pet hates in the modern game, IMO its NOT ACCEPTABLE!!  

Rant over, I shall climb off my soap box now  :soap:

I'm with Lady on this one, Saturday nights should be a pro footballers night out injured or not.  As a team mate I would not want to hear about my club captain out on a thursday night getting slaughtered.

I have no problem with the lads letting their hair down on a Saturday night, win, lose or draw, as everyone's entitled to go out and have a few (or a lot).

But mid week drinking when you are a PROFESSIONAL athlete should not be tolerated.  So if Pookie picks up a hamstring knock and is out for a month no one would be pissed off if they saw him up MacKenzies shit faced on a thursday night making a fool out of himself?

(before I get stick I only selected Pook as he was the first player I thought of - worryingly).

I only really posted this as I think Pook takes far too much shit when realistically its not fair him being targeted all the time.

I agree with Lady on this too, sure on a Saturday night is fine but midweek....for a professional sportsman thats disgusting behaviour, whether club captain or just a youth team player, I remember several of the first team squad have been "done" for drink driving etc and nights out on the town midweek....Shakes and Brown who as we know have since departed, Nicho and Pook, Williams etc.

For Pro sportsmen its wrong, not morally but professionally, if you need a drink then do it privately if you must dont air your drunken washing in public.

There seems to be about a 50-50 split of opinions today on this!

It's the same with the cricket, no one battered an eye lid when Flintoff celebrated the ashes, but if he goes out gets pissed and can't train, then he should change his drinking habits.

Flipping hell one blow out a week should be enough for a bloke of Williams' age.  Keep it to Saturdays.

I guess no-one wants to see their club captain pissed and making an arse of himself, although I'm also fairly sure that we've all done the same ourselves at one time or another.

However, I think people have to consider that they don't necessarily have all the relevant facts about the situation.

We do have a game on Saturday, but I'm pretty sure that AW will have already been told that he won't be in the squad for it. I don't know what the training regime is the day before a game. Do they train? Do they limit it to just the players that will be involved on matchday? I don't know, and I'd guess neither do most of you.

If he does have to train today then you'd hope the coaches would notice the state he's in and take the appropriate action. If anyone's worried that they won't notice then you might do better by e-mailing the club than bitching on here and hoping somebody notices.

If he isn't training today, and isn't playing tomorrow, then I can't see the problem. If one of us went out and got completely hammered and behaved like a bit of a tit on a Friday night, and I'm sure some of you do, we'd be a bit pissed off if we arrived at work on Monday morning to find that we were in the shit with the boss because one of our clients had seen us out and thought our behaviour was inappropriate.

And I don't buy the "he's a professional athlete we're just ordinary working blokes"  bollocks. He's a lower league clogger that probably earns about £75k a year. He's not John fucking Terry who earns 3 times that a week. His lifestyle's not that different to that of some of us.

And a load of us have got responsible jobs where people rely on us as well. Tans is a firefighter for fuck sake. Is anyone going to argue that him keeping himself fit and clear headed isn't more important than some bloody footballer? Does that mean you'll be slagging him off if you see him out getting hammered one night when he's not back on shift for 3 days?

This judgemental attitude just seems a bit hypocritical considering the tales of drunken debauchery that get posted on here week in week out. Ben wakes up one morning with no memory of the night before other than taking a dump in an alley, no clothes, no wallet and no 'phone and everyone's highly amused, but a footballer wobbles about a bit and talks bollocks loudly in a bar and it's a total disgrace.

Errrrrrrrrrr..........right. Rant over, I must go an put this soapbox away before someone trips over it. :D

The worst offenders at present are Williams and Pook, Williams is always off his face (seen him about 5 times in the last month alone truely fooked)

The thing is when you have senior people like Sturrock who is rumoured to like a drink who blames the players, I still feel the discipline at this club is very minimal.  Anyone remember when Sturrock made a joke at the 125th bash about teh drink driving - he made a joke out of it.

Lumps that's not the point I'm trying to make.

It should be club policy that players should not be out on the lash from Monday to Friday, whether they're fit or injured, whether they are in the first team squad or not.

Being injured should not be a license to do what you want to do.  I don't think it's acceptable whilst the first team squad are at home eating pasta having an early night that fringe players and injured players should be up old town getting trollied.

I suppose if PS took the hard line and brought this rule in, the problem could be PS may not practice what he preaches.

Presumably then you'd be happy for your employer to impose restrictions on your social life along the same lines.

"I'm sorry Jan I know you have Friday off and aren't back at work until Monday but you can't go out on the lash on Thursday because other people in your team are working Friday and Saturday and it would be bad for team discipline"

Somehow I don't see it.

What annoys me is players are being shown the door as we have too large a squad and you can guarantee he won't be one of them.

I have heard he has had troubles with his home life and like most people when this happens we start to go out loads.  

He was a model proand a very good player.  Hope he turns around the perception of the locals

The bottom line is the best players in teams don't go out and get battered on a week night, they condition themselves, eat the right food, don't over do it on the booze.

Best example I can think of is when Lee Sharpe and Ryan Giggs were caught at a party by Fergie when they were younger, Fergie sat them both down and said you can continue going out partying and have no career or you can give it up, knuckle down and make something of yourself.  Giggs chose his career and has gone on to become one of the biggest players in modern day football where as Sharpe chose partying and disapeared into a nobody with a career that promised so much and delivered so little.

To use Tans as an example is stupid because if your a fireman and your on the duty the next day you shouldn't be getting pissed the night before its that simple.  You say hes ONLY on £75k a year, I think most of us would kill to earn just £20 a game to play footy.  Its the game we all love and to get paid to play it would be amazing and as its such a short career you have plenty of time to drink after.

The best managers in the game do not allow a drinking culture at there clubs and thats the main reason there teams are such a success.

if he was with some rough bit?then i presume his marrage is-has broken down?he has a couple of kids i think?
as lady was the only one on here who witnessed his behaviour, how can we cast judgement on him?
he's injured and wont be in the squad this weekend anyway.

You're probably right that we won't get rid of him. But that's got NOTHING to do with him being fireproof.

He's got to be on of the highest earners in the squad, he's ageing and almost premanently crocked, and about 4 in line for a place in the first team.

The only reason he won't get binned off is that he's under contract for a bit yet and we won't find anybody to take him on, and can't afford to pay him up.

And Im not going to go into detail as thats his business - just pointing out I dont't think it was good idea reputation wise.

so why start a thread slating him then?

Just pointing out I don't think it was good idea reputation wise as I said in the above and that it takes the piss when other players like Pook and Nicho get it in the neck all the time when its not just them.

Williams was a great captain last season and it was mainly down to his leadership we were so good at the back, he's a top guy too. Not happy with him drinking in the middle of the week but it's not like he'll be playing on Saturday....

i know they get stick but i found them both, nicho and pook that is to be nice lads.they are young and mates so why cant they have a drink and pull birds etc?as long as its not a day or two before a match i dont see a problem with it

Im not saying they aren't nice lads am I?

Just saying in my OPINION that Williams should be setting a better example seeing hes older and coincidentally club captain.

Agreed with this and if the second and third bit is correct most people would want to go out and try and move on

i know that lady.i was just giving my opinion of pook and nicho as you brought them both into the debate.fucking touchy today aint ya?pre menstrual?

I dont think its anyones buisness but his own.

Hes over 18 he can do what he wants.

but I dont want an arguement with a clearly annoyed STFCLady so .....

Oooh thats terrible!!!

I'm 100% with Lumps on this one .

Annoyed?  Jesus christ, I used caps lock and the TEF goes OTT.

Just saying my opinion like most others, unless thats not allowed.

Everyone knows women are not allowed to have opinions, especially on football :D

Whos chris?

I can see what you are saying Lady, but he surely is nowhere near contention for a first team place.

So the question is, is this going to effect his ability to perform his job. We've all had the odd one-off night out that has done that.  If it's a one off then fair enough.

But if it is a regular occurance then it's a different kettle of fish. If that is the case personally I'd like him to be given the oppertunity to sort his life out and save his (post playing) career, much like Roberts was.

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That was my point for fuck sake! Like Ady, and Tans, none of us who have responsibilities should be going out getting hammered the night before we have to work, BUT if we're off for the next few days who's fucking business is it what we do in our spare time.

And the comparison with Giggs is fucking laughable. We're talking about a lower league battler at the fag end of his career, who's income and lifestyle is closer to mine than to that of a Premieship player.

Our players aren't some bunch of over privileged primadonna millionaire wasters, they're just normal blokes earning a fairly decent wage who live lives not that far removed from ours. Why the hell should we expect their standards of behaviour to be so different from ours?

This could be an occassion he fully regrets, and there's no way of knowing whether it was a one off (although just reading Bushey's comments it wouldn't seem so). What would piss me off more would be if it continued to happen and it was hampering his fitness.

He could have been out celebrating something and just over-indulged. We've all done it...
Or he could know he's going to be gone soon.

I reckon he blew lady out -  :D

(please take that in the way its meant as a joke)

Or he could have been taking lessons in how to go out and get drunk by Mr S. Pieman Esq.

I don't drink.

*tef

**ott

:mrgreen:

no no. You don't DRIVE.  :P

Only when I drink.

If AW wants to get battered that's his choice but common sense says you book a hotel room, ship in a crate of champers and a couple of slappers not inflict it on fans who have every right to expect a degree of professionalism.

I think this is brilliant news. Under the bad example that he has set since he's been here we've got promotion from div 4, and look capable of challenging in div 3. I reckon he should start using heroin, we'd be in the champions league in a few years.

Personally he's not playing or training so i don't see what the problem is.
I wouldn't find him an embarrassment. The ones i am embarrassed about is Pook and Nicho on nights out.
If you remember (but you all seem to have forgotten!) Pook was caught drink driving so was Nicho. It was in the news and everything - now that's fucking embarrassing. Ady Williams getting drunk isn't and just cos he's club captain doesn't mean he shouldn't be entitled to go out as "he's supposed to set an example" as you keep putting it!

And not living in Swindon Im sure you've seen all 3 out on a night out..............

She was with Ady the other night  :D

:soapy tit wank:

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

You don't need to when they're all over the paper for the wrong reasons! Drink driving is a stupid and irresponsible thing to do and they should have been thrown out of the club for it - not ady that only had a drink and wasn't driving afterwards.
Pictures of Pook and Nicho going to court and being found guilty is fucking embarrassing and you're actually praising that behaviour. You're all sickening!

Going out, getting pissed and making a twat out of yourself is part of life. Doesn't matter if you're a footballer, air traffic control worker, fireman, rock star, chef, prophet, racing car driver, reporter or pyramid builder.

I'd be more embarrassed if none of our players were going out getting lashed and making idiots of themselves. Especially the ones who aren't likely to get a game any time soon.

I'm not sure anyone has ever praised Nicho and Pook dear, those two have been on the end of some proper lyrical hidings on here for their behaviour in the past, admittedly before you joined but you still shouldn't make those assumptions.

Whos praising their behaviour?   :?

toni in overeaction shocker.watch that ticker dear

I'd like to see more drunken prophets around swindon

drink driving is cruise control for cool.

just ask si pie :--

I think we've all had a go at Nicholas and Pook plenty of times in the past.But not in this thread because its not about them and they are easy and obvious targets.The drinking culture that excisited a couple of years ago does seem to have died down a bit now.

I saw Adi Williams in Marios earlier this year,he wasn't drunk though and seemed to be drinking cola.The owner asked him for some tickets for the Yeovil game,the cheeky sod  :D hopefully he got some cause that would have taught him trying to get freebies  :wink:

How do you know he wasn't driving?

Toni was driving...

Pook and Nicho were home waiting for some tag team action!

Williams, Pook, Nico etc are professional sportsmen, they may only play for Swindon Town in L1 but it does not matter they should be setting an example even if they was in the conference there are plenty of young stfc fan's out there that probably look up to these players and this is the example they set, they go out regardless of what night it is and get shit faced and make fool's of themselves - out of order.

I've got no problem with players having a few beers but do it in moderation though be professional.

In Ady's case this makes it even worse, he is club captain and has even been involved with the coaching he should be someone the other players can look up to and respect and go to for advice but if he is rolling around pissed as a fart in the middle of the week how can he be respected, probably a laughing stock...if the youth lads done it and claimed they was following the example set by their club captain people would be in uproar.

As said no problem with players having a few drinks but keep it to that, I thought these days footballers respected their bodies with the fitness and diets etc, but surely 10 pints isn't on the list.

And as for the lady he was with, I think that is his business who he chooses to go out with and people should not judge as she may be a really nice lady inside or it may have been his missus and that is personal  :oops:

If he is going through a rough period in his life then he might find solace in a night out and we have all been there. Its his life to make mistakes not mine. people are far to judgemental these days, can you put your hand on your heart and say that wouldnt do this? i couldnt .

How many of us when we were 17/18 would look at a town player and think "oh my god, that's so ace that he's wasted, I want to copy"? It's a flawed theory in my view, because I don't know any of peers, at that age, who would think like that. The other reason it's flawed is because 17/18 year olds would probably be wasted themselves anyway.

Apart from people thinking you're acting like a muppet there's not really much of a public image issue imo.

I was fucking battered last night, and the night before. And will be tonight as well.

The only setting an example issue I'm worried about is the example he sets to the younger pro's/youth team who must be tempted to go out on the lash at 17/18.

If players like Williams are known to be getting pished up then the youth teamers would see that as a green light to go out and do likewise.

Yeah Ady invited me out too

Is this thread still going?

FFS, let the man live his own life.

I think we should have a protest about it!  :wink:

I don't think that kind of language is appropriate for a Trust board member. Think of all the aspiring busybodies who look up to you and you set that sort of example.

Ady should become a rock star. It's common practice to get pissed then  :beers:

I can easily imagine that Williams knows his days as a player are numbered,  maybe has some domestic problem and maybe decided that he's now free to indulge himself...OK it could be argued he has a position of reponsibility etc, but making a bit of a prat of yourself is a long way from Bradley Orr, Dave Partridge country.

18 year olds/youth teamers will always go and get fucked whenever, regardless of who they see out. Makes no difference whether Williams is out or not to me, he can do just as he pleases as long as he takes the consequences like if he was fined after playing shit after a night on the lash.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Pook of course was done for drink driving. So was Nicho - bunch of cunts!

I've been slated many many times for my opinion on the footballers drinking. I dont mind them drinking but getting plastered often can not be good for their health and fitness - and at the end of the day they paid good money to play a sport and be in peak physical condition.

Now, as far as I'm aware Ady is still out injured (?) and there was 0% chance of him playing Saturday, so if he isnt training today then I dont see the problem of him going out....but then I didnt see his actions or how drunk he was.

Someone mentioned that loads of the youth players go out and get plastered, thats true and where the fuck are all our youth players no eh! non league no bodies mainly.

Secondly, more importantly - did I really need a text messages at twenty to one in the morning informing me of this  :mrgreen:

Are you sure DV? As the rumour has it nicho was drink driving and was caught trying to push his car around the corner after crashing it?!?! Personally I dont give a fuck

turns out your right

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/display.var.1197031.0.0.php

I think your find he got points for speeding then banned but I dont want to get on teh kids back, he is doing well at the moment since he got back in and hope he fulfils his potential as has a hell of a left foot

so how did you edit without putting you edited it?!

edit what?

You definately changed that! Anyway learn your lesson I am always right  :D

i think that was a new post Bushey.

Anything that discourages paying customers from showing up at the ground on a Saturday afternoon is out of order.  Players out boozing and/or being disrespectful to other people send a message of "they aren't bothering, why should I bother".  Like it or not, image and marketing are important.   Also, Luggy wants his players to live locally and be part of the community, that implies giving a good impression.  

The sad part of all of this is that it appears that the gentleman in question is behaving like he has given up, or is it a case of some recreation before having to toe the line in the first team squad.  I don't think that a return to the first team squad is likely unless the injuries continue.

don't really see the problem if he's not able to play anyway to be honest.

as for his behaving like a twat, don't most of us after a few beers?

I don't want to be a hypocrite, in the past I've been banned from one or two drinking establishments in the Swindon area and have had social intercourse with one or two ladies that I shouldn't have.  

I have no problem with anyone going on a bender with whomever. However, if you are associated with a local professional sports team, create a good impression or otherwise it undermines the marketing efforts of that organization.  Just like the film The Godfather, it's only business.