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Title: transfer embargo Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:49:14 Town hit by transfer embargo
SWINDON Town have been placed under a transfer embargo by the Football League. The action has been taken against the Robins due to unpaid football bills, and the club are hoping to have the situation sorted by the end of the week. Log on to www.thisisstfc.co.uk for further updates and see tomorrow's Advertiser for the full story . Title: transfer embargo Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:50:32 I was waiting for this, but the transfer window is shut anyway isnt it?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:51:02 nobody get injured or suspended then please.
what a fucking joke :soapy tit wank: Title: transfer embargo Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:51:28 Effects loans aswell if i remember rightly...?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:53:46 correct.
outside the transfer window we can still sign loan players and permenant signings on a free transfer Title: Re: transfer embargo Post by: WorcesterRed on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:54:51 Quote from: "Sussex" Town hit by transfer embargo SWINDON Town have been placed under a transfer embargo by the Football League. The action has been taken against the Robins due to unpaid football bills, and the club are hoping to have the situation sorted by the end of the week. Log on to www.thisisstfc.co.uk for further updates and see tomorrow's Advertiser for the full story . Wonder whose fault this is then - The fans The council Bill Power Phil Emmel BEST Holdings Other nasty football clubs asking for their money Paul Davis The Trust - anyone's apart from the effing wankers in charge I bet (who are not at fault for absolutely anything - ever - I promise guv). Title: transfer embargo Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 13:57:35 It is Ralphys fault. Have you learnt nothing from this forum!
Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC4LIFE on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 14:08:47 Good reason for a backed protest?
Title: Re: transfer embargo Post by: Lumps on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 14:13:35 Quote from: "WorcesterRed" Quote from: "Sussex" Town hit by transfer embargo SWINDON Town have been placed under a transfer embargo by the Football League. The action has been taken against the Robins due to unpaid football bills, and the club are hoping to have the situation sorted by the end of the week. Log on to www.thisisstfc.co.uk for further updates and see tomorrow's Advertiser for the full story . Wonder whose fault this is then - The fans The council Bill Power Phil Emmel BEST Holdings Other nasty football clubs asking for their money Paul Davis The Trust - anyone's apart from the effing wankers in charge I bet (who are not at fault for absolutely anything - ever - I promise guv). That's a bit spooky. I just posted an almost identical thread on Thisis, only I posted it as a book with odds on each entry. Title: Re: transfer embargo Post by: WorcesterRed on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 14:24:12 Quote from: "Lumps" Quote from: "WorcesterRed" Quote from: "Sussex" Town hit by transfer embargo SWINDON Town have been placed under a transfer embargo by the Football League. The action has been taken against the Robins due to unpaid football bills, and the club are hoping to have the situation sorted by the end of the week. Log on to www.thisisstfc.co.uk for further updates and see tomorrow's Advertiser for the full story . Wonder whose fault this is then - The fans The council Bill Power Phil Emmel BEST Holdings Other nasty football clubs asking for their money Paul Davis The Trust - anyone's apart from the effing wankers in charge I bet (who are not at fault for absolutely anything - ever - I promise guv). That's a bit spooky. I just posted an almost identical thread on Thisis, only I posted it as a book with odds on each entry. Just read it - yours is funnier cos you put the odds on :grin: Title: transfer embargo Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 14:41:51 I think Mike might've put his foot in it with his little outburst yesterday then:
Quote Speaking for Holdings, Mike Diamandis said: "Much of the present ill feeling towards the Board emanated from a meeting of October 6th last year when Paul Davis presented a report regarding Bill Power's departure from the Club Actually, now most of the ill feeling is going to be because we've had a transfer embargo slapped on us because you didn't pay the bills. Title: transfer embargo Post by: pumbaa on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 14:47:48 I'm more surprised that we weren't already under one, or did that automatically expire on 30 June when we were supposed to 'exit' the CVA......
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 15:13:40 I wonder if we are due any payments from the FL the end of the week and that is how these bills will be paid by the FL paying them out of the monies we are due, I assume this is to do with 'nam not getting their share of gate receipts and other clubs not getting theirs either.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 15:44:29 does this effect outgoings?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 16:28:08 Anyone think it's because they haven't paid the player again?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 16:49:16 To be honest, as we are trying to offload 8 players on loan it really isn't an issue, unless of course the embargo stops outgoings. But that would be proper stupid but not inconceivable.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: thepeoplesgame on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 16:52:48 Quote from: "Batch" To be honest, as we are trying to offload 8 players on loan it really isn't an issue, unless of course the embargo stops outgoings. But that would be proper stupid but not inconceivable. Except that it further highlights to a wider audience what a joke of a football club we are. Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 17:14:59 I'm 99% sure it does not effect outgoing just incoming as you would have to have the money to pay incoming which we clearly haven't
Although no one seems interested in the players we want to get out of here at the moment Title: transfer embargo Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 17:31:22 Quote from: "sonic youth" does this effect outgoings? No it doesnt Sonic, according to league rules it only applies to incoming transfers, the outgoing transfers are unnaffected by any embargo. Title: transfer embargo Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 17:33:53 Quote from: "thepeoplesgame" Except that it further highlights to a wider audience what a joke of a football club we are. If in recent week - not paying 25K owed to Cheltenham, - not paying the wages on time - having litigation threatened or action by investor(s) - releasing an incompitant hash of a statement doesn't make people realise that, then I'm not sure the transfer emabrgo will :) Title: transfer embargo Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 17:39:22 You know what? I reckon this could lead onto a points deduction.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: herthab on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 17:43:22 I think it will lead to expulsion.
We will be playing in the Swindon and District league this time next week. Title: transfer embargo Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 18:54:22 Quote from: "flammableBen" You know what? I reckon this could lead onto a points deduction. That is comedy genius Benji Title: transfer embargo Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 19:40:09 Either you're being a Sarcastic Monkey or I love you Fred. Or Both.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 19:52:21 Not sarcasm at all mate
just loved the way you picked up on the other thread Title: transfer embargo Post by: thalidomideBen on Tuesday, October 30, 2007, 20:06:39 Then I double love you babe.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 10:02:11 I must admit Andrew Fitton is certainly ticking the right boxes at the moment. His comments in the Adver this morning paint the picture that he’s not going to be fucked about or suckered in to bailing out the incompetent’s ability not to pay the bills.
The only downside is that I can see the whole takeover dragging out beyond Christmas. I can’t see anyone agreeing to the sort of terms that Best put on the table and I don’t see the existing board lowering their sites on what return they’re going to get either. Meh, all the same it’s refreshing to hear even a little common sense. Quote Sturrock hopes talks between prospective buyer Andrew Fitton and the current owners will clear these debts but club officials fear the green light for new signings won't be given until the takeover goes ahead. However, Fitton insists the the situation is "not our problem" claiming until the takeover is concluded it is up to the current owners to deal with any immediate debts. He said: "It is nothing to do with us. It is up to the existing owners to sort out the transfer embargo and get Swindon out of this situation. "I am 100 per cent behind Paul Sturrock but it is not our problem until it is our problem. "Everyone is continuing to work hard to come to a conclusion but like I said before this is not the work of a moment. We need so sort this out once and for all." Meanwhile a crippling defensive injury crisis has left the Town boss with a threadbare squad ahead of Saturday's visit of Doncaster and the Leyton Orient clash on Tuesday. Jamie Vincent, Jack Smith and Ady Williams have already been ruled out for the weekend, and with Jerel Ifil and Phil Smith also doubtful, Sturrock is praying for a quick conclusion to the latest financial woe. With Fitton's consortium expecting to receive reports from the lawyers in the next couple of days, after a period of going through the club's books, the takeover is still some way off, but Sturrock is hopeful the necessary bills can be paid in the meantime. Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 10:23:21 Too right it is the current owners problem. They are the ones who have witheld the fans ticket monies from the other clubs.
I am awaiting to hear that the embargo is the trust/Paul Davis/Bill Power/Mike Wilkes/The fans fault Title: transfer embargo Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 10:55:26 Quote from: "STFC Bart" Too right it is the current owners problem. They are the ones who have witheld the fans ticket monies from the other clubs. I am awaiting to hear that the embargo is the trust/Paul Davis/Bill Power/Mike Wilkes/The fans fault :o Quote THE Swindon Advertiser can today exclusively reveal Swindon Town supremo Mike Diamandis is laying the blame of the current transfer embargo firmly with STFC Bart. Read more... (http://www.stfcbartisabusybody.co.uk) Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 11:08:56 :)
Title: transfer embargo Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 11:11:44 holy fucking shit, a post from bart with a SMILE.
i just died of shock. it's a good job they have the internet in hell Title: transfer embargo Post by: janaage on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 11:17:36 Why the hell couldn't we have had this transfer embargo a while back.
Then we wouldn't have had to put up with players like Ricky Shakes, Aaron Brown & Jamie Slabber. Title: transfer embargo Post by: adje on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 11:49:09 Quote from: "Power to people" I'm 99% sure it does not effect outgoing just incoming as you would have to have the money to pay incoming which we clearly haven't Although no one seems interested in the players we want to get out of here at the moment can you blame them? Title: transfer embargo Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 13:31:52 Quote from: "janaage" Why the hell couldn't we have had this transfer embargo a while back. Then we wouldn't have had to put up with players like Ricky Shakes, Aaron Brown & Jamie Slabber. I blame the football league for approving those deals. And Ralphy... :soapy tit wank: Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 13:48:18 Of course the currernt owners should be paying bills as they fall due but of course they are not
I suspect they will get "a loan" from SSW again and then we will be told what a wonderful benefactor he is for bailing us out yet again and how he loves the club and really wants the takeover to go thorugh (but they won't tell us about the 10% interest rate). Why should Fitton pay the money according the the board he has already put in a sum of money to pay HMRC Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 14:24:20 Yes, within 48 hours we will get the usual line of "SSW has provided the money" that should read "SSW loaned the money at an astronomical rate of interest"
Title: transfer embargo Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, October 31, 2007, 15:04:16 all hail lord seton. our glorious leader! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiJRcLtsuq4)
Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 2, 2007, 18:10:04 From the WDP Swindon fail to escape embargo ...
http://www.westerndailypress.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=145787&command=displayContent&sourceNode=145780&contentPK=18851096&folderPk=100269&pNodeId=145803 (Apparently someone took the last of the cash for a piss up on Thursday night) Some interesting points about the takeover too ... Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, November 8, 2007, 10:47:49 Is this correct? From the Gazette and Herald today:
Meanwhile, the club claim they have paid off all their football creditors, paving the way for the transfer embargo to be lifted once the Football League is satisfied. At the bottom of this article http://www.gazetteandherald.co.uk/sport/swindontown/news/display.var.1817938.0.williams_closes_in_on_robins_return.php Title: transfer embargo Post by: janaage on Thursday, November 8, 2007, 11:33:28 Also on a slight side issue, shouldn't that headline, in light of recent allegations read
"Williams closes in on ROVERS return"??? Or has he been barred from there? Title: transfer embargo Post by: DV on Thursday, November 8, 2007, 17:27:41 Quote from: "janaage" Also on a slight side issue, shouldn't that headline, in light of recent allegations read "Williams closes in on ROVERS return"??? Or has he been barred from there? oh dear, you should be ashamed of that.... Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Wednesday, November 14, 2007, 14:24:56 I thought I read somewhere that Mr Starnes was going to see the FL today to plead our case and try to get the embargo lifted. If so, might we expect some news on the outcome?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 13:39:07 Quote from: "wheretherealredsare" I thought I read somewhere that Mr Starnes was going to see the FL today to plead our case and try to get the embargo lifted. If so, might we expect some news on the outcome? It is very surprising nothing has been reported on this, Starnes obviously failed and they want to keep it quiet Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 13:39:44 Quote from: "wheretherealredsare" I thought I read somewhere that Mr Starnes was going to see the FL today to plead our case and try to get the embargo lifted. If so, might we expect some news on the outcome? It is very surprising nothing has been reported on this, Starnes obviously failed and they want to keep it quiet - but why can't they pay this off though anyway, what did they do with the money ? Title: transfer embargo Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 13:42:41 This won't get sorted until Fitton takes over.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 15:19:39 But Fitton has already said he will not pay it
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 17:43:17 Quote from: "Power to people" But Fitton has already said he will not pay it No he has said he won't pay it UNTIL he takes over. That's different. So basically we don't have the money to pay it now. So until Fitton is in charge we will be under this embargo. Title: transfer embargo Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 18:31:07 Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" Quote from: "Power to people" But Fitton has already said he will not pay it No he has said he won't pay it UNTIL he takes over. That's different. So basically we don't have the money to pay it now. So until Fitton is in charge we will be under this embargo. Title: transfer embargo Post by: Hexagon on Thursday, November 15, 2007, 18:34:36 Thought he said it weren't his problem till it's his problem or something like that.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 16, 2007, 08:42:29 Quote from: "Hexagon" Thought he said it weren't his problem till it's his problem or something like that. I thought he said it was not his problem and was down to the current board to sort out Title: transfer embargo Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:12:20 From todays Adver
The club's football debts and Company Voluntary Arrangement (CVA) of £900,000 would need to be paid for the ban to be lifted and that will not happen until the takeover is sealed, later this month. That reads to me that its not just the £60k we owe to other clubs that has forced the embargo, but the whole state of the CVA. Fucking Hell !!!!!! Do you still think the board have done such a wonderful fucking job now Sturrock ??? Title: transfer embargo Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:19:58 He insists, contrary to the statement, an offer has already been made, with terms already agreed,
fucking hell, its like the FC all over again :? All I want for christmas are these complete bunch of incompetant goons to fuck off out of our football club. I can see at the very best this takeover dragging on for ages Title: transfer embargo Post by: Robinz on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:23:34 Fred....
I totally agree with the FL. Why the fuck should anyone try and use the system like the pricks have done running our club. They are a bunch of c@nts of the highest order. What has happened with Diamond Mike and the Wills family...what caused them to fall out of love ??? Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:23:36 This board are parasites- nothing more nothing less.
They have strung out the CVA as long as possible just to get as much money as possible out of the club over the close season. the embargo is THEIR fault and only their fault. Nothing to do with Fitton or any other prospective bidder. The fans money they have held due to other clubs is tantamount to theft Title: transfer embargo Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:25:35 Quote from: "Robinz" What has happened with Diamond Mike and the Wills family...what caused them to fall out of love ??? I am sure it was Fitton's involvement Title: transfer embargo Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:26:49 Quote from: "STFC Bart" The fans money they have held due to other clubs is tantamount to theft no its not - its not paying bills. Its not like they can get away with keeping it is it? Title: transfer embargo Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:28:29 Quote from: "STFC Bart" This board are parasites- nothing more nothing less. They have strung out the CVA as long as possible just to get as much money as possible out of the club over the close season. the embargo is THEIR fault and only their fault. Nothing to do with Fitton or any other prospective bidder. The fans money they have held due to other clubs is tantamount to theft Completely agree I wonder what Sturrocks views on protests would be if we went past the loan deadline with the emargo still in place ? He should have kept his nose out at the time and on the flip side we should have ignored his request Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:32:24 He should have kept his gob shut all along.
I wonder whos fault the embargo will be- anyone but the current board Title: transfer embargo Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:34:50 I think its all sturrocks fault
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Arriba on Friday, November 16, 2007, 09:37:11 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Quote from: "STFC Bart" This board are parasites- nothing more nothing less. They have strung out the CVA as long as possible just to get as much money as possible out of the club over the close season. the embargo is THEIR fault and only their fault. Nothing to do with Fitton or any other prospective bidder. The fans money they have held due to other clubs is tantamount to theft Completely agree I wonder what Sturrocks views on protests would be if we went past the loan deadline with the emargo still in place ? He should have kept his nose out at the time and on the flip side we should have ignored his request agree 100% with that fred! Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:08:11 Quote from: "Robinz" Are we sure that the beautiful cu#t has gone...??? Don't know about any beautiful people ... but on thisis bape said: bape Posts: 123 Joined: 19 Jun 2007 Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 11:16 pm Post subject: Re: Do we know for sure? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- batman wrote: Bape/Banbury et al. Do we know for sure that Mr Diamandis has actually gone/disappeared/left his post at STFC? Or is it just supposition? Has he been sent forth ‘to multiply’ or is that just the new training scheme title for Sandys balance sheet accounting department? Mike D is still there behind the scenes he certainly is not gone Heard today that it's all sounding very promising with Fitton which is encouraging but the big date for the team side of things is the 26th Nov as if a deal hasn't been done by then they won't be able to bring loans in which they have lined up. Not sure if he is correct about the 26th, I thought it was the 22nd for expiry of loan window. Edit: Expiry date changed Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:09:49 The slimeball wont go until he gets his payout. Lets remember he had the shares for a "laugh"
Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:11:29 Is it gospel that both the CVA and £60k debts must be settled to lift the embargo?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Tails on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:11:41 Embargo not lifted and it won't be before the deadline... No new players until January then!
Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:13:03 Yes it is gospel, and to be honest we are lucky it is only an embargo we have in place.
Both debts are the responsibility of the current clowns, therefore any effect on the squad/Sturrock/play off push is their fault Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:15:02 Apart from the Adver, which gospel is that from Bart?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: STFC Bart on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:20:47 The football league
Title: transfer embargo Post by: sonic youth on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:36:20 iirc the transfer window is 20th of november but loans are allowed until the end of march.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:53:31 loan window open until Thurs 22nd Nov, then transfer window reopens in January ...
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Batch on Friday, November 16, 2007, 10:54:14 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/gossip_and_transfers/7072790.stm
Quote In the Football League, loan deals are permitted until Thursday, 22 November at 1700 GMT. However, in exceptional circumstances, clubs can apply for special dispensation to the Premier League or Football League outside these times - for instance, if they had no goalkeepers available. Transfer window is then open 1-31st Jan for loans and permies. FL loan window is open 8 Feb - 21st March (1700GMT) Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 16, 2007, 11:05:56 Quote from: "STFC Bart" The football league Forgive me for being pedantic, but is it definitely written in stone that the CVA must also be paid to lift the embargo? I only ask as I had an idea about the £60k, but it becomes irrelevant if the immediate bill to lift the embargo is effectively £960k. Title: transfer embargo Post by: Kinky Tom on Friday, November 16, 2007, 11:09:57 Were you gonna pay it yourself wtrra?
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, November 16, 2007, 11:10:01 It's probably a bit less because HMRC have been paid something already.
Title: transfer embargo Post by: Phil_S on Friday, November 16, 2007, 13:52:25 The league are in my opinion being good to us at present. Of course none of us want a transfer embargo, but this is pretty mild compared to what they could do. I would rather have this than a points deduction, (although that could follow too)
And if it concentrates minds at SN1, maybe it is a good thing. Title: transfer embargo Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, November 16, 2007, 13:57:20 Quote from: "Kinky Tom" Were you gonna pay it yourself wtrra? Not all £960,000 ... unless they agree to make it roubles. So I take it that paying the debts alone will not lift the embargo? Title: transfer embargo Post by: uktonyn on Friday, November 16, 2007, 17:33:13 Quote from: "Si Pie" It's probably a bit less because HMRC have been paid something already. No thats for this years tax bill, nothing to do with the CVA |