Title: The 8 Players Post by: red macca on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 09:36:00 Sturrock has said that 8 players will leave or go on loan so lets have a guess.
The 3 best Amigos Adams Blackburn Mohamid Ali Pook Allen/Tozer I think maybe the top 5 will get the contracts terminated/sold and the others go out on loan. Adi williams may even get loaned out to regain some fitness or alternativly just sell Brez and keep everyone :D Title: The 8 Players Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 09:41:57 Anzite
Arrieta Almeida Mohammed (Loan) Allen (Loan) Adams Tozer (Loan) Brezovan Title: The 8 Players Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 09:51:02 Quote from: "McLovin" Anzite Arrieta Almeida Mohammed (Loan) Allen (Loan) Adams Tozer (Loan) Brezovan Totally agree - dont think he will get rid of Pook or Blackburn Title: The 8 Players Post by: red macca on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 09:51:46 Just thought caton is surely a cert to go
Title: The 8 Players Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 09:58:04 Could this be in addition to Allen, Tozer and Caton, who are surely not really 1st team squad. If so, I'd say-
Anzite Arrieta Almeida Mohammed (Loan) Adams (released/contranct not renewed) Brezovan Blackburn (Loan, depends on Vincent/Smith injuries) Sturrock (loan until Jan, extend if Cox stays) -------------- Caton (released) Tozer (loan) Allen (loan) Title: The 8 Players Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 09:58:53 Quote from: "red macca" Just thought caton is surely a cert to go is he on loan or has he left altogether Title: The 8 Players Post by: red macca on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 10:01:40 Quote from: "Batch" Could this be in addition to Allen, Tozer and Caton, who are surely not really 1st team squad. If so, I'd say- If brez goes surely that would cover all those players wages aloneAnzite Arrieta Almeida Mohammed (Loan) Adams (released/contranct not renewed) Brezovan Blackburn (Loan, depends on Vincent/Smith injuries) Sturrock (loan until Jan, extend if Cox stays) -------------- Caton (released) Tozer (loan) Allen (loan) Title: The 8 Players Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 10:03:35 Kaid Mohammed to Wrexham maybe? Unless their manager gets the chop
Sam Collins is expected to return up north once his loan spell ends Title: The 8 Players Post by: Luci on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 10:13:51 Blackburn will be a loan with option to recall at short notice.
Mohammed is a player Luggy wanted for future development as was Blackburn to an extent. Adams I think will be released. I'd like Sturrock to go out on loan but won't happen. Title: The 8 Players Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 10:47:32 Think this is the first sign of the inevitable decline of our season.....our promising start is based on squad strength, it will infect the players with negative vibes, kick on to the fans and hasten the fall in crowd size. The Jan window wil see players sold.
The only thing that can salvage this is a takeover that might seem decent.....not a dodgy Portugeezer style affair. Title: The 8 Players Post by: STFC Bart on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 11:03:21 This will definately be detrimental to the team- cut competition for places. I have no issues with the bEST players being offloaded though.
Agree with Reg- player sales are inevitable in January should the current shower remain. Title: The 8 Players Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 11:10:50 Quote from: "STFC Bart" This will definately be detrimental to the team- cut competition for places. I have no issues with the bEST players being offloaded though. Agree with Reg- player sales are inevitable in January should the current shower remain. Of course its also entirely posible that the Best players will sit it out, nobody will come for anybody else.....the takeover will not happen and we'll liquidate befroe the season's end. Title: The 8 Players Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 11:16:06 I expect the extra 5 to be .. Collins or Williams - Caton - Allen - Kaid and Adams
Title: The 8 Players Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 11:18:28 Regardless of who is responsible, the fact remains we have an unsustainable wage bill. Cuts have to be made regarless of the medium/long term consequences, unfortunately.
It is my firm opinion not to be confused with fact that Diamond said the he will no longer be finding the £750k per annum to cover losses, and in a probably totally unrelated point Sir Seaton is out of money. Alegedly. Last time such noises were made we were relagated to division 4. Lets hope this tkaeover loosens the purse string a little if/when it happens. Title: The 8 Players Post by: Lumps on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 11:25:46 I would love it if the five players we got rid of were ones that were entirely superfluous to our squad.
But lets face it what's driving this isn't Luggy sitting around thinking "I've got too many players to deal with, let's get a few out", but the board and Mikey screaming "Get the wage bill down we're skint!". And that means that the players that go out are going to be the ones that we CAN get out. And that means that it can be just about anyone. And I'm going to just assume that when Coxy's loan deal is up he's gone. I very much doubt they'll be money avalable to renew it. Title: The 8 Players Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 12:40:55 Caton is already at North Leigh on loan i think. Scored twice the other week,
Title: The 8 Players Post by: DV on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:02:06 You got the three from best.
Caton (is he still contracted here?) Rigley (is he still contracted here?) Allen on loan hopefully Mohammad on loan Do players like Collins count? ie him going back to Hull....I guess we are paying some of his wages thats 8 then Title: The 8 Players Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:04:37 think you are just about spot on dv
Title: The 8 Players Post by: chrisser on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:17:40 I hope DV is right. Having seen the JPT matches, both Allen and Mohamed look promising but need regular games.
However, in terms of wages, none of Caton, Rigley, Allen or Mohamed will be amongst our highest earners so savings would be small. Adams must be vulnerable as he only got a 6 month contract and isn't playing for the 1st team Title: The 8 Players Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:32:01 Quote from: "chrisser" I hope DV is right. Having seen the JPT matches, both Allen and Mohamed look promising but need regular games. However, in terms of wages, none of Caton, Rigley, Allen or Mohamed will be amongst our highest earners so savings would be small. Adams must be vulnerable as he only got a 6 month contract and isn't playing for the 1st team That's my worry, we all agree that the 'triumvirate' are gonners - and rightly so, but the financial side of it is leaving me concerned with regard to the four mentioned above - they wouldn't be on a grand a week between them, which of course all helps but it's neither here nor there when it comes to our overspend. Title: The 8 Players Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:32:14 I think Ridgley went a couple of months ago?
Title: The 8 Players Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:34:02 I expect Blackburn to go back to morecambe being quite honest. If you think about it Ady Williams is on his way back, Nicho is back so that leaves us with enough cover at the back really, especially with Zaaboub apparently playing at the back as well now.
Title: The 8 Players Post by: DV on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:52:01 seen as we needed him in at short notice I expect Sam Collins is on a fair bit and I expect we're paying most of, if not all of his wages.
If we werent they surely being injured he would have gone back to Hull by now. We also have no idea how 'over' the wage budget we are, so maybe we only need to make some small savings. My guesses have been on what, in my opinion is realistic but would also benefit/have no impact on the squad. I would be extremely pissed off if the likes of Ifil, Brezovan, Easton and Peacock etc ended up going in January purely to balance the books. In the long term, it maybe more benefical to gamble and win more games, get in better crowds and finisher higher. Title: The 8 Players Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 13:57:59 Maybe Cox back to Reading as well now Corr is fit (although i hope not)
Title: The 8 Players Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 14:15:48 as rich said in another thread, if £1m is 'neither here nor there' to the new investors we're supposedly in advanced negotiations with, why the need to trim the squad?
iirc sturrock wanted a squad of about 23-25 players, all of whom are capable of providing competition and playing first team football. i'd expect that along with arrieta, almeida and anzite (i wonder if best were gonna start signing three players of each letter) then we'd shift the following... Adams Caton Mohamed (loan) Tozer or Allen (loan) and Collins back to Hull Title: The 8 Players Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 14:35:54 I don't see Blackburn going anywhere to be honest. Hope I'm not proved wrong!
Title: The 8 Players Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 14:38:00 nor tozer.he's only a youth no need to loan out yet imo
Title: The 8 Players Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 16:16:31 How did we get over budget so badly though, don't all clubs have to issue accounts to the FL at the beggining of the season on the previous seasons turnover so we don't go over the 60% of turnover cap and I thought while we was under a CVA the FL had to approve player purchases / loans ?
Title: The 8 Players Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 18:56:18 Quote from: "arriba" nor tozer.he's only a youth no need to loan out yet imo Not allowed to anyway Arriba. He is only on "apprentice" wages, and still plays in the youth team.Title: The 8 Players Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 18:59:03 Quote from: "Power to people" How did we get over budget so badly though, don't all clubs have to issue accounts to the FL at the beggining of the season on the previous seasons turnover so we don't go over the 60% of turnover cap and I thought while we was under a CVA the FL had to approve player purchases / loans ? Believe the turnover cap only applies to Division 2. I am sure the League do still have to approve our incoming transfer dealings though. Expect Big Mike dealt with it in his usual way - "no problems, cos Uncle Bob told me!"Title: The 8 Players Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 21:51:53 Caton has already been informed that he is surplus to requirements come Jan (at the end of his 6 months), so I am sure that PS will ditch now
Still around the CG gaining fitness, but Tans is right also back with North Leigh Title: The 8 Players Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, October 25, 2007, 08:05:51 I thought they loaned out Caton, thats the second time this season
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