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Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:02:10
With the board / non-football management coming out to the adver every other day saying how they've done nothing but run the club with super ace awesomeness. I propose that we but together all our knowledge of their on and off involvement in the club, Pre and post the Brady / Donegan, including relevant Business interest / partnerships with Property Developers, Media thingies and stuff.

Sorry bit of a trail off there. I know that bit's and pieces of the whole story are everywhere on tinternet, but correct be if I'm wrong, I don't think there's a comprehensive history all in one place. One which not only gives a time line of events on and off the pitch, but investment recieved from the web of other companies with connections to the board (artificial or not), other investment, changes in (non-football) management, and how our apparent financial situation seems to relate to extra income in certain seasons. Oh and anything else of interest.

Would be a useful document to have.

Of course I'm too lazy and addled and insane to put such a thing together. Not without links to news stories and other things people have put together, I'm guessing there's some usefulness on the trust website. But to be honest I was hoping someone else would do it.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:04:21
Sounds like a good idea. Would be interesting to see how many mystery investors we've had, I've certainly lost count.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:18:49
Be great to see where all the money from player sales have gone too:-

Parkin
Mills
Fallon
Lukus
many more


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:21:09
And Bill P's £1.2m last summer...


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:25:19
I was thinking more of a collabaration of all the information we know and can reference, not one of investigative journalism.

There's lot's of unanswered question, but my super intellectual thinking has led me to believe that such a document would ask those questions with the information it gives. I think we've been caught in a trap of too much rumour and speculation recently; even when the source is better than "someone told me" or "I heard today"

Edit: AndI've managed to fB myself  :D


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:28:16
Also where has my £10 deposit gone that i put down on the mythical new black away shirt?  :o


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 20:57:38
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Also where has my £10 deposit gone that i put down on the mythical new black away shirt?  :o
Are they not available then Ralph, they are certainly featured in the new merchandising catalogue??


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 21:09:56
You'd probably need to go back 15 or 16 years though to pick up the story, when SSW first became a director.  Its doable but would be remarkably time consuming....


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: magic8ball on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 21:38:15
Quote from: "Ralphy"
Also where has my £10 deposit gone that i put down on the mythical new black away shirt?  :o


Ditto


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 21:45:44
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
You'd probably need to go back 15 or 16 years though to pick up the story, when SSW first became a director.  Its doable but would be remarkably time consuming....


Aye, it would take a lot of work. And the fact that I can't be arsed, and don't have a day off until Sunday, doesn't bode well.

I think it's a worthy project though, and with a few people putting the effort in I think it could get done. Just need to update a central document with changes every so often.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:01:36
I'd help out with trawling through the Adver archives et al.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:18:50
Quote from: "Nemo"
I'd help out with trawling through the Adver archives et al.


Ace, and I hope other people wouldn't mind helping to.

I think starting by finding as many sources as you can. So anybody who's willing to go through the adver stuff, briefly say what it's about and give a reference (tinternet or otherwise), would be a good start to collecting information.

As I said, I'm talking about a sort of history which isn't speculation. I think it's worth doing.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:20:00
ben can you create another thread for all of the factual information to be listed so it doesn't get lost in here...i have a feeling this could be a 30 pager...


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:23:35
by that i mean a locked thread so it doesn't turn into a long discussion about cows and bagers


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:31:11
Quote from: "Whits"
by that i mean a locked thread so it doesn't turn into a long discussion about cows and bagers


*logs out of Badger Info*

You heartless sod.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:33:27
whats the link, i feel like i need this in my life?


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:33:42
Quote from: "Whits"
by that i mean a locked thread so it doesn't turn into a long discussion about cows and bagers


will do in a min, at the moment I'm writing this instead and in the middle of re-organising wires.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:48:33
Right, I'm stickying a thread for people to reference any information that highlights the current boards involvement with the football club. Post anything you've got there, but use this one for discussion.

This is all a bit to organised for me. I just want to collect enough information to write a decent document.

I'll buy the first 3 people to put sources a pint. And to be fair it's pretty unrestricted. You could just take what they've said over the last week.

Don't worry if the Sticky thread doesn't follow any order. We'll put it together eventually. I'll put an index at the top.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:51:45
Straight away....you've a problem because the current Board isn't really the story. that's teh Wills family and you've to go back to 91, to start the story.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:53:20
alright the current management. Don't pick straws Reg. I didn't even want to organise this.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 22:59:29
starting from when the current lot took over from donegan etc?


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:05:18
any involvement that the current board have had with the football club. I'm pretty sure there's a bit pre donegan/brady.

Any information people can find then post it on the thread I've stickied.

I'm not sure this plan is going to work.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:05:31
Quote from: "flammableBen"
alright the current management. Don't pick straws Reg. I didn't even want to organise this.


 I'm not or even splitting hairs....but you can't ignore these years in the narrative, because this is how we went from being reasonably stable....to a situation where Diamandis could buy into the club for a laugh.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:08:35
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Quote from: "flammableBen"
alright the current management. Don't pick straws Reg. I didn't even want to organise this.


 I'm not or even splitting hairs....but you can't ignore these years in the narrative, because this is how we went from being reasonably stable....to a situation where Diamandis could buy into the club for a laugh.


Fair point. Although I think I made it clear in my original post that It was the whole of the current non-football management.

I think this is a bad idea. It takes too much work to get started and I don't have the time.

Oh well.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:11:04
If i do 3 do I get 3 pints?


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:19:28
I'll buy you 3 pints anyway yeovil. It was a silly way of going about it. There are people on here with a nearly encyclpeadic knowledge of the last 6/7 years or so. If they can reference what they know with adver / other sources quotes then we can fill in the gaps with the random claims of investors and go from there.

That's if anybody can be bothered.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:20:37
\ :D /

I'll pick my nose instead.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, October 23, 2007, 23:40:20
There's so much out there but I'll get the ball rolling with a few links.  

20/08/01 - Early mention of the consortium including Mike Diamandis
http://archive.wiltshiretimes.co.uk/2001/8/20/211131.html

20/08/01 – “Consortium has the funds” interview with Wills
http://archive.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/2001/8/20/211128.html

21/08/01 – “Donegan - I’ll get it sorted” interview” Donegan replies to claims of the consortium
http://archive.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/2001/8/21/211077.html

22/08/02 – “Council to probe club” includes quotes that the consortium were to invest £1 million each
http://archive.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/2001/8/22/211038.html


That’ll do for now I’m off to bed.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 07:14:48
Ben, if you're really serious about doing this then why not make up a quick php/mySQL database? It'd:

a) stop the forum getting crammed up

b) be easier to sort the information by date etc.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 07:36:33
I'm not serious. I don't have the time or inclination to take on such a project.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Whits on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 07:43:06
i'll look into it..


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 07:45:24
Financial woes and debentures (5 years ago)
http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2002/10/10/175812.html


Apparent peace and talk of a fan on the board!
http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2002/10/22/174685.html

Wills first strop with the trust, threatens to withdraw funds...
http://archive.thisiswiltshire.co.uk/2002/10/31/173719.html


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: genf_stfc on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 12:43:19
it might be obvious, but make sure that the actual text of these stories in the adver archive is downloaded and physically copied somewhere, rather than just the links.  wouldn't want to find at some point in the future that the link pointed somewhere else, or files got deleted etc.  not insinuating that would happen of course, just its a reasonable precaution to take.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, October 24, 2007, 19:44:11
Here you go, very basic at the moment. If people want to use it then I'll jazz it up a bit.

To insert links : http://www.theunofficialmikediamandisfanclub.com/tef/form.html

To read the table : http://www.theunofficialmikediamandisfanclub.com/tef/table.php


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, October 25, 2007, 14:22:42
That's awesome Sam.


Title: The big History / Time line Document Exersice Homework
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, October 25, 2007, 14:35:39
I know, I'm ace.