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Title: todays protest
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 17:48:31
a fucking big let down


Title: todays protest
Post by: yeo on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 17:50:25
The numbers were there I thought,but it was the most limp wristed protestet ive ever seen.


Title: todays protest
Post by: STFC_Chris on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 17:57:13
It looked to me like there was less than there was against Cheltenham, which is disappointing. Looks like people were taken in by the latest claim to have found an investor.


Title: todays protest
Post by: lambourn red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 18:06:02
More to do with the Euphoria of another superb team display, if we had lost 4 - 0 and been dire there would of been big numbers.It just does not feel right protesting after winning a good game in the last minute.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 18:06:48
you are right lambourn red.but a let down it was nonetheless.,
the protest momentum has been lost now i think


Title: todays protest
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 18:20:59
I can't help but feel that a lot of people are spineless wankers. There I said it.


Title: todays protest
Post by: pauld on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 18:21:24
Quote from: "STFC_Chris"
It looked to me like there was less than there was against Cheltenham, which is disappointing.

There was a good 250-300 to start off with, but spread out so looked thinner. The atmosphere was very flat tho compared to Cheltenham which meant people drifted off more quickly and thinned it out further.
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Looks like people were taken in by the latest claim to have found an investor.

A combination of factors - Sturrock and the Adver's editorial today, a good win, people wanting to get home for the rugby and a general weariness with the whole situation leading to a feeling of "Well what can we do anyway" put some off


Title: todays protest
Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 18:28:38
We've lost the momentum.

It is going to take something fucking outrageous to generate enough fury for Donny.


Title: todays protest
Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 18:32:45
PS when I say that we have lost momentum, I mean the interest of the media. No TV cameras there today. No GWR FM. No Beeb.

Great. Just great.


Title: Re: todays protest
Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 20:34:16
Quote from: "arriba"
a fucking big let down


no suprise.


Title: todays protest
Post by: stfc_steve on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 20:46:52
was fucking dyre today i knew before the game if we would win you would get half the people planning to go before hand change their minds, pissed me off  :x


Title: todays protest
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 20:57:01
Terrible today. There were less there than Cheltenham and it was quiet as anything. Big big let down. 2 key factors must have been people going off to watch the rugby straight after the game and the win.


Title: todays protest
Post by: lambourn red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 21:30:41
Two guys sat next to me in the Arkells talking about the protests "what is the point of protesting it aint going to get them anywhere all it will do will scare another load of investors away" I just had to shake my head could not be bothered to put them right but unfortunately there are too many fans like these who dont have the knowledge of what is actually going on. Unless the wider fan base are educated about what the really issues are then i think the numbers of protesters will not grow significantly especially if the team keep playing well.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 21:33:03
unless there is a development not yet known, you can guarantee the numbers will be even less next time.
the boat has been missed imo


Title: todays protest
Post by: Spud on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 21:37:37
Quote from: "arriba"
the protest momentum has been lost now i think


Fair enough, let's all just sit back and let the Club slip away.

The fact is that the Cheltenham game had a mass protest because of a couple of things:-

a) It was the same day everything was released in the media regarding the state of the Club.

b) We lost and played crap which helped some fans make their decision to protest.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 21:38:47
Personally I think that protests are like military might. The threat puts the willies up people, but its use results in people seeing weaknesses!

NMH


Title: todays protest
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 21:51:35
Quote from: "Spud"
Quote from: "arriba"
the protest momentum has been lost now i think


Fair enough, let's all just sit back and let the Club slip away.



no lets not spud.i was just telling it how i see it


Title: todays protest
Post by: Spud on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 21:55:04
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "Spud"
Quote from: "arriba"
the protest momentum has been lost now i think


Fair enough, let's all just sit back and let the Club slip away.



no lets not spud.i was just telling it how i see it


But the attitude of most of the fans is "oh let's just go home im sure the Club will be ok, the board said so the other day"

This Town don't deserve a Football Team.


Title: todays protest
Post by: dell boy on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 22:22:35
I'm


Title: todays protest
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 22:23:39
i saw some fella get thrown out of the arkells at half time.was neither of them two


Title: todays protest
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 22:26:25
Quote from: "dell boy"
I'm


Your what? Are you about to come out?  :soapy tit wank:


Title: todays protest
Post by: dell boy on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 22:27:49
Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji"
Quote from: "dell boy"
I'm


Your what? Are you about to come out?  :soapy tit wank:

Computer crashed and just logged back in. :soapy tit wank:


Title: todays protest
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 22:40:03
if there's no board members there, what's the point in being vocal and loud? at the end of the day it's the numbers that count (unless your name is sandy gray)

two key factors which led to the events after cheltenham were missing today; spontaneity and a trigger. nothing spontaneous about today and the trigger was less of a short sharp shock.

i think the result contributed to the mood afterwards, it's a shame that we can't just fucking celebrate a win :?


Title: todays protest
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 22:44:08
whatever the reasons are.the fact is that protest would have gone relatively un-noticed.when surely the aim of it is to make an impact?


Title: todays protest
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 08:32:09
Quote from: "Spud"
Quote from: "arriba"
the protest momentum has been lost now i think


Fair enough, let's all just sit back and let the Club slip away.

The fact is that the Cheltenham game had a mass protest because of a couple of things:-

a) It was the same day everything was released in the media regarding the state of the Club.

b) We lost and played crap which helped some fans make their decision to protest.


c) everyone was in the north stand already.


To be fair lads, dont beat yourselves up about it too much. I think a line in the sand has been drawn because of the Cheltenham game. They will have to tread more carefully in future.

It was depressing yesterday because we should have all been in the pub or on the way home talking about what a great win, and Barry Corr, fuckin brilliant. But we werent because this huge cloud hangs over the club because at the end of the day we are one false step from being liquidated.

Take it easy on yourselves. Do the simplest things that cause the maximum impact. At the end of the day we are not Burmese monks, we are football fans!

I have to say I agree with Spud about the naivety of our fans. There are many clubs (of a simmilar size to ourselves) who would not have let this happen. But here we are.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 09:15:40
To be honest (and this observation is only possible with hindsight) I think planned protests are doomed from the outset.  It's just too contrived.

Successful protests are spontaneous.  They don't announce themselves days before they are due to happen.  The Macari reinstatement and McMahon protests were pre-internet era, and happened because everyone was ****ing livid.

Frustrating as it is, when Sturrock comes out in support of the board in the press - it's going to placate enough people for a spontaneous protest to be a non starter.  If they say 'we've got another investor lined up' - that also is going to prevent a large scale spontaneous protest.  And for what it's worth, an injury time winner against the league leaders is hardly going to fire people up for a bit of protesting behind the Arkells Stand five minutes later either.

You're only going to get a powerful protest when something definitive happens.  A winding up order.  An admission that the latest 'investor' has also pulled out and that there is no Plan B.  And, of course, by then it will all probably be too late.

Depressing.  I'll be taking a break for a while, I think.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 09:42:09
good, protesting will achieve nothing


Title: todays protest
Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 11:42:44
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 11:45:58
I disagree. The protests have rattled them enough to wheel out Sturrock, put some crappy interviews in the Adver, which give us no more answers than a year ago.

We've played the waiting game long enough I'm afraid.

As for supporting the team, I'm pretty sure everyone protesting yesterday cheered the team on. I know I certainly did.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 11:46:16
And Dachauer is just a wind up merchant.


Title: todays protest
Post by: lebowski on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 11:48:22
to suggest that sturrock is being "wheeled out" by the board is to totally disrespect the man. he is no puppett. he has an opinion, he's aired it, and now he's not going to say any more on the matter.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 11:53:11
Quote from: "lebowski"
to suggest that sturrock is being "wheeled out" by the board is to totally disrespect the man. he is no puppett. he has an opinion, he's aired it, and now he's not going to say any more on the matter.


When I say wheeled out, he's probably been fed some sort of bait in order to do it.

One thing is clear, he does respect the Wills' and if they told him something he's probably based his opinion on that. That's not to say it's right or wrong.

EDIT: Even if that point of view is wrong, the board are still clearly rattled.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 13:11:26
Quote from: "my-velocity"
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


You are both wrong. So wrong its unbelievable. Mike Diamandis will do whatever he can get away with, and I think the Cheltenham protest showed that he wont get away with quite as much as he thought he might.

If you trust Mike Diamandis you are a fool. He is a liar and a conman. Adrinokou may well have provided us with a miracle up until now, but this cannot go on. Diamandis is confident because he does not care that much whether we go under or not, his confidence is not because we are in a sound financial position.

Lets see what top of the league gets us when we are liquidated and thrown out of the league.

Like I said, there are a lot of clubs that wouldnt have let this happen. As a set of fans we are just too nice!


Title: todays protest
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 13:26:47
The mere fact that there was a protest yesterday is all that matters.....Diamandis will find it increasingly difficult to operate with no consequences, think back to the days when large numbers didn't even know he was running the club.

  The Mex Yeovil situation needs to be addressed though...


Title: todays protest
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 13:32:13
Exactly. Chin up you lot.


Title: todays protest
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 14:03:20
Quote from: "my-velocity"
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


utter bollocks.  you haven't got a clue.

we got no answers, we got lies and mistruths from the least trustworthy man this side of parliament. there s little point waiting for yet another false dawn, if we wait another month it could very well be too late.

i've no doubt that every single one of us that protested after the game yesterday were 100% behind the team for 90 minutes, certainly more so than the wankers who booed pook!


Title: todays protest
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 15:41:06
I protested and booed pook. Much fun!


Title: !
Post by: my-velocity on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 16:56:24
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Quote from: "my-velocity"
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


utter bollocks.  you haven't got a clue.

we got no answers, we got lies and mistruths from the least trustworthy man this side of parliament. there s little point waiting for yet another false dawn, if we wait another month it could very well be too late.

i've no doubt that every single one of us that protested after the game yesterday were 100% behind the team for 90 minutes, certainly more so than the wankers who booed pook!


So in between now and next month, what are you lot going to do?


Title: Re: !
Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 17:06:03
Quote from: "my-velocity"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Quote from: "my-velocity"
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


utter bollocks.  you haven't got a clue.

we got no answers, we got lies and mistruths from the least trustworthy man this side of parliament. there s little point waiting for yet another false dawn, if we wait another month it could very well be too late.

i've no doubt that every single one of us that protested after the game yesterday were 100% behind the team for 90 minutes, certainly more so than the wankers who booed pook!


So in between now and next month, what are you lot going to do?


Look matey. No ones saying we are going to march on parliament. Theres not a lot you can do outside home games.

So less of your guff. We know we are pointing out an inconvienient truth that many Town fans dont want to hear, but this is how it is.

If you aint interested then take your sarcasm and shove it up your arse.


Title: todays protest
Post by: axs on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 17:07:56
sideways.


Title: Re: !
Post by: sonic youth on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 18:19:08
Quote from: "my-velocity"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Quote from: "my-velocity"
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


utter bollocks.  you haven't got a clue.

we got no answers, we got lies and mistruths from the least trustworthy man this side of parliament. there s little point waiting for yet another false dawn, if we wait another month it could very well be too late.

i've no doubt that every single one of us that protested after the game yesterday were 100% behind the team for 90 minutes, certainly more so than the wankers who booed pook!


So in between now and next month, what are you lot going to do?


what the fuck do you think?

continue supporting the team whilst registering our dissatisfaction with the board and the shambolic way this football club is run.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Spud on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 19:50:05
Quote from: "my-velocity"
These protests are pointless, you wanted answers and you got them in the adver. I say wait until November 16th and if the deal isn't done then protest all you want, we need to be focusing on supporting the club not attacking it. We got a good result yesterday, was a massive result in fact. And we got a game in hand on some of the teams above us which is always a good position to be in.

Dachauer is right, these protests will achieve nothing.


A couple of things:

Did any of us sing anti board songs during the game? No we didn't.

Did we support the team for 90 minutes? yes we did.

Don't you think we've waited long enough? week after week of "the takeover is a matter of weeks away" has pushed alot of people over the edge and we've had enough of the lies.

Anybody who is going to sit there hoping for the miracle that is November the 16th is a fool and deluded.

We didn't get much in the way of answers, but we did get some info from our mate Mike D telling us that he got rid of Wise because he was sick of him being linked to other Clubs....what a fucking joke.


Title: todays protest
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, October 21, 2007, 20:38:05
Basically I started supporting a football club for a laugh.


Title: todays protest
Post by: red macca on Monday, October 22, 2007, 15:31:22
Quote from: "Si Pie"
Basically I started supporting a football club for a laugh.
You aint been disapointed then


Title: todays protest
Post by: justboiledover on Monday, October 22, 2007, 23:11:45
PS is a very very good manager, he has the loyalty of ardiles and the lower league nouse of macairi. he will be an asset if the club continue to trade. Fuck him, he continues to spout his mouth off in support of what must be the worst board ever to control a football league club. we need to keep trading with or without diamond mikes latest mouthpiece and one day we wil find a new (hoprfully more loyal) hoddle. Sturrock you have the potential to be an STFC legend stop trying to burry our club.