Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: redbullzeye on Friday, October 19, 2007, 14:16:39 http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1147223,00.html
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: stfctownenda on Friday, October 19, 2007, 14:21:34 Anybody copy and paste as I cant get on there, many thanks 8)
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, October 19, 2007, 14:30:52 Good Afternoon
We have been suffering with injuries again this week. Jamie Vincent and Sam Collins both sustained injuries against Gillingham and have been receiving treatment this week. Lee Peacock and Craig Easton have come back into training this morning which has been a big boost to us. Andy Nicholas and Barry Corr both played for the reserves on Tuesday and they will both be in contention for a place in Saturday's squad. Hasney Aljofree has been training for the past two days and he is also in contention for Saturday. He is a great reader of the game and it would be great to have him back. He wouldn't be at his fittest, but again that's something we would have to make a decision on. Under the circumstances, we may have to make those decisions because of the injuries we have. All football clubs have their injury troubles but hopefully we can get over our situation as soon as possible.We have to choose our bench carefully too because Phil Smith has missed some training too. Some people will get their opportunity and it will be up to those players to grab their chance. I may have to take a massive gamble on one or two, but that's something I will be thinking about overnight. It's a big game this weekend and hopefully the adrenaline will get one or two of them through. In terms of the squad we have there may be some movement next week in terms of players going out, whether that be on a loan basis or finishing their contracts. As I have said before the squad is top heavy. I will be talking to several players over the next few days to make sure they know their situation. Running at the loss this club does, we cannot carry the number of players we do. I will be cutting down the squad but not to the detriment of the team; that I must stress. A lot has been happing off the pitch recently, but what I can say is that I came to Swindon Town Football Club after listening to the visions of Mike Diamandis and the Wills Family. Their job has been unjustly criticized in my view because there are not many people who would have put the amount of money into the club as they have. Things are moving on now and I whilst people will say I shouldn't get involved, I have observed and had to comment. I won't be opening up on this subject again but I am very hopeful that this weekend, before and during the game the fans' focus remains on backing the team to victory. Tranmere Rovers will be a test for us. They have a big, strong side and have a good experience manager in Ronnie Moore. It's a difficult game to come back into and I am anticipating a tight game. Tranmere are a side who know how to play away from home, as their league position suggests. We have had a two-week lay-off but I am very hopeful that we have rallied the troops and with the support of our fans, I believe we can come out with the result we need. Enjoy the game. Paul Sturrock Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Friday, October 19, 2007, 14:36:20 i'm wondering if anyone has written to sturrock to explain why supporters are protesting?
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: stfctownenda on Friday, October 19, 2007, 14:44:16 Quote from: "ron dodgers" Good Afternoon We have been suffering with injuries again this week. Jamie Vincent and Sam Collins both sustained injuries against Gillingham and have been receiving treatment this week. Lee Peacock and Craig Easton have come back into training this morning which has been a big boost to us. Andy Nicholas and Barry Corr both played for the reserves on Tuesday and they will both be in contention for a place in Saturday's squad. Hasney Aljofree has been training for the past two days and he is also in contention for Saturday. He is a great reader of the game and it would be great to have him back. He wouldn't be at his fittest, but again that's something we would have to make a decision on. Under the circumstances, we may have to make those decisions because of the injuries we have. All football clubs have their injury troubles but hopefully we can get over our situation as soon as possible.We have to choose our bench carefully too because Phil Smith has missed some training too. Some people will get their opportunity and it will be up to those players to grab their chance. I may have to take a massive gamble on one or two, but that's something I will be thinking about overnight. It's a big game this weekend and hopefully the adrenaline will get one or two of them through. In terms of the squad we have there may be some movement next week in terms of players going out, whether that be on a loan basis or finishing their contracts. As I have said before the squad is top heavy. I will be talking to several players over the next few days to make sure they know their situation. Running at the loss this club does, we cannot carry the number of players we do. I will be cutting down the squad but not to the detriment of the team; that I must stress. A lot has been happing off the pitch recently, but what I can say is that I came to Swindon Town Football Club after listening to the visions of Mike Diamandis and the Wills Family. Their job has been unjustly criticized in my view because there are not many people who would have put the amount of money into the club as they have. Things are moving on now and I whilst people will say I shouldn't get involved, I have observed and had to comment. I won't be opening up on this subject again but I am very hopeful that this weekend, before and during the game the fans' focus remains on backing the team to victory. Tranmere Rovers will be a test for us. They have a big, strong side and have a good experience manager in Ronnie Moore. It's a difficult game to come back into and I am anticipating a tight game. Tranmere are a side who know how to play away from home, as their league position suggests. We have had a two-week lay-off but I am very hopeful that we have rallied the troops and with the support of our fans, I believe we can come out with the result we need. Enjoy the game. Paul Sturrock Thanks Ron Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, October 19, 2007, 16:58:55 Quote from: "arriba" i'm wondering if anyone has written to sturrock to explain why supporters are protesting? That's a good point. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Batch on Friday, October 19, 2007, 18:20:44 I thought he said he came to Swindon because we were the first to offer him a job. Other than that, a great manager, couldn't give 2 shits about his opinion in off field matters.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, October 19, 2007, 18:25:20 Sturrock
Please shut up, you had my sympathy this week with your appeal, now just leave it yeah, let it drop. Your constant bigging up of the board when you have only been here 2 minutes is really starting to get on my tits. We have done what you have asked, now you deliver the goods. and FFS keep to the job in hand......................manage the fucking football team. Believe you me, if things start going a bit smelly this week we will be taking things to PV and major major shit for the Donny game Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: lebowski on Friday, October 19, 2007, 18:26:22 to be honest i would be more concerned if he didnt have an opinion on off field matters.
he's in an awkward position where he's frustrated as hell about this takeover, but at the end of the day is employed by these people. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, October 19, 2007, 18:31:48 I sympathise Lebowski but its wearing thin with me now.
He's spouting of like some authoritative figure when hes been here less that a year. Sorry mate but I don't buy it, do what you are employed to do and manage the football team Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 19, 2007, 18:33:56 I suspect he's quietly pleased that the scummer is out of his hair.....fuck knows I would.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: lebowski on Friday, October 19, 2007, 18:34:10 to be fair to the man, he has said that he's going to hush his gums on the subject now.
a wise decision, i think we can agree on that. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Dirk Diggler on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:07:46 Believe you me, if things start going a bit smelly this week we will be taking things to PV and major major shit for the Donny game
Dear oh dear mate.. Support the team... Do you really think that you and your 50/60 fellow posters are going cause "major, major shit"? Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: glos_robin on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:10:38 Quote from: "Dirk Diggler" Believe you me, if things start going a bit smelly this week we will be taking things to PV and major major shit for the Donny game Dear oh dear mate.. Support the team... Do you really think that you and your 50/60 fellow posters are going cause "major, major shit"? Hate to break it to you mate but there was between 150 and 200 at the last protest so that figure is only going to grow........you seem very good at clutching at straws Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Fred Elliot on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:11:47 Quote from: "Dirk Diggler" Do you really think that you and your 50/60 fellow posters are going cause "major, major shit"? :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Sweet Love Fred x Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:17:18 Sturrock really should keep his mouth shut, He has been here 5 mins and doesnt know the half of it. I respect Luggy but even he must see the board wheeled him out to keep the fans at bay for another week.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:21:12 You tell him Gaz!
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: ghanimah on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:26:37 In Sturrock's defense his job is to win football matches and if he feels protests will detract his players from that then he's entitled to say something.
He's the best manager we've had for years so Im rather reluctant to criticise him - he's not the enemy and to be fair he has made his views clear in recent weeks regarding more clarity from the board and the fans deserve better etc. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: herthab on Friday, October 19, 2007, 19:54:33 I love Sturrock (Not in a gay way).
He's assembled a decent squad, which is playing good football. When he talks about off-field matters, I just don't take any notice.............. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Batch on Friday, October 19, 2007, 20:15:20 Quote from: "ghanimah" In Sturrock's defense his job is to win football matches and if he feels protests will detract his players from that then he's entitled to say something. . Agreed. Hence leaving it until after the game. What gets on my tits is his comments regarding Diamandis and Wills. I guess he's entitled to opinion. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: TalkTalk on Friday, October 19, 2007, 20:58:29 Quote from: "Dirk Diggler" Dear oh dear mate.. Support the team... Do you really think that you and your 50/60 fellow posters are going cause "major, major shit"? It's really odd. I keep trying to find an anagram of "Dirk Diggler" that results in "Furious Masturbator" but I just can't seem to achieve it. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: ghanimah on Friday, October 19, 2007, 21:00:40 Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "ghanimah" In Sturrock's defense his job is to win football matches and if he feels protests will detract his players from that then he's entitled to say something. . Agreed. Hence leaving it until after the game. What gets on my tits is his comments regarding Diamandis and Wills. I guess he's entitled to opinion. Yeah I understand what you're saying, but I suppose he's hardly likely to do anything other than praise his employers. On the hand it does seems strange though as he strikes me as someone who speaks as he finds... I agree with herthab I just ignore Sturrocks comments regarding off-field matters. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 00:49:59 he is bound to side with the board.
they employed him for a start.plus with the best lot trying to bring their players and staff in would surely have rocked the boat. he wouldn't have liked it for sure. look what the players they brought in have done.they'vehardly kicked a ball Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 02:12:27 Quote from: "ghanimah" In Sturrock's defense his job is to win football matches and if he feels protests will detract his players from that then he's entitled to say something. He's the best manager we've had for years so Im rather reluctant to criticise him - he's not the enemy and to be fair he has made his views clear in recent weeks regarding more clarity from the board and the fans deserve better etc. Totally agree, good post. The best part of Best fiasco was that Rufus and Viagra were not inflicted on the club. A proportion of the fans detest some board members and apparently the feeling is mutual. Protests are not going to change anything. Why don't we all agree to comply with Luggy's wishes. You may not like the message, but the messenger is the best in the business at what he does. Quite frankly, he provides Swindon Town with credibility, something desperately needed for survival. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 08:48:37 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Sturrock Please shut up, you had my sympathy this week with your appeal, now just leave it yeah, let it drop. Your constant bigging up of the board when you have only been here 2 minutes is really starting to get on my tits. We have done what you have asked, now you deliver the goods. and FFS keep to the job in hand......................manage the fucking football team. Believe you me, if things start going a bit smelly this week we will be taking things to PV and major major shit for the Donny game Just who the fuck do you think you are? Serious question. Because you're starting to get on my fucking tits! Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 08:58:37 Quote from: "Melksham Red" Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Sturrock Please shut up, you had my sympathy this week with your appeal, now just leave it yeah, let it drop. Your constant bigging up of the board when you have only been here 2 minutes is really starting to get on my tits. We have done what you have asked, now you deliver the goods. and FFS keep to the job in hand......................manage the fucking football team. Believe you me, if things start going a bit smelly this week we will be taking things to PV and major major shit for the Donny game Just who the fuck do you think you are? Serious question. Because you're starting to get on my fucking tits! Come on Melks no need for that. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:02:18 Why not? Some people need to get off their high horses. We're all fucked off with the financial situation but these Trust guys seem to think they're above everybody else.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:05:42 Quote from: "Melksham Red" Why not? Some people need to get off their high horses. We're all fucked off with the financial situation but these Trust guys seem to think they're above everybody else. Or perhaps they are very passionate about what happens on the field and feel that the manager should keep his nose out. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:09:57 we're all passionate gazza.
forums are about opinions and melksham red has his.i'm glad we have a bit of diversity on here instead of the constant sucking up some indulge in Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:10:56 We're all passionate my brother. However, Sturrock is entitled to his opinion as much as anybody else. I want change as much as anyone but I do not want these militant fucks pissing the manager and team off.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:15:24 whats a millitant fuck?
i wanna try it,i think :? Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:18:16 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:19:46 Quote from: "Melksham Red" Why not? Some people need to get off their high horses. We're all fucked off with the financial situation but these Trust guys seem to think they're above everybody else. Hey again come on. They (or Fred in this case) are just as passionate as everyone is. I don't see how they have shown that they are above everyone? Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:24:24 alot of supporters see the trust in the same way as melksham red.i dont myself but alot of people i speak to do
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:25:19 Quote from: "arriba" alot of supporters see the trust in the same way as melksham red.i dont myself but alot of people i speak to do Why's that Arriba? Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:27:43 they are seen as trouble makers by board sympathisers and non fans who read the paper listen to local radio etc.
its just the way it is and i'm sure the trust board are aware of it Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: ron dodgers on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:28:29 It's his personal opinion not the Trusts - don't get them mixed up - and before you ask no I'm not a Trust member
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:30:28 exactly ron.i'm a trust member yay! :)
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:31:01 I have been on both sides, Trust and sympathising with the board and I know personally that people from the Trust etc hold everyone with the same regard no matter what their views are. The end of the day we are all fans. The Trust and whoever else will put their view across but like the protests if you dont want to protest, dont its quite simple they wont slate you for not doing so. In short I guess everyone has their own way of showing their passion for the team. Some it may be protests, marches etc others it may be going to every home and away game, and others may be doing match sponosorships etc
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:31:32 I am not a board sympathiser, nor am I a non fan you cunt. I have supported this club for twenty odd years, home and away, through thick and thin. I actually support the trust, I just don't like the way some of them conduct themselves and having a go at Sturrock will not help their position.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:35:37 Quote from: "Melksham Red" I am not a board sympathiser, nor am I a non fan you cunt. I have supported this club for twenty odd years, home and away, through thick and thin. I actually support the trust, I just don't like the way some of them conduct themselves and having a go at Sturrock will not help their position. did i say you was eh? i was giving information from people i have spoken too. now who's on their high horse?prick! Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:38:01 Good call. Anyway, as much as i'd like to stay and argue with you i'm leaving for the game now.
Bye. See you at the protests :wink: Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:38:38 good fuck off :wink:
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:39:11 Love you.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:40:28 Quote from: "Melksham Red" Good call. Anyway, as much as i'd like to stay and argue with you i'm leaving for the game now. Bye. See you at the protests :wink: Yup. See you there 8) Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:42:27 Personally I hold Sturock in high esteem and am prepared to listen and give thought to his views.....to the extent if he asks us to back off before games, then I believe it right to do so.
It still leaves after games, so its not like he's saying no protests at all.....its unfortunate that he comes out in support of Diamond Mike, but he's probabaly a bit relieved that the scummer and co have done a runner, and whether we like it or not he's got to work with Newbury. I'd imagine any number of us hold differing views about our bosses, for public and private consumption.. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:46:33 But it's not the fact that Sturrock is telling us to not protest, it's the fact that the board wheeled him out because they were shitting themselves. Therefore i am inclined to not like what he says because i know he is playing board lapdog.
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:51:22 Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" But it's not the fact that Sturrock is telling us to not protest, it's the fact that the board wheeled him out because they were shitting themselves. Therefore i am inclined to not like what he says because i know he is playing board lapdog. Fair enough.....bung Sturrock into the pot then, when it comes to protest...after me 1..2..3...The Swindon Board....and Paul Stur..rock is full of shit....is full of shit...The Swindon Board etc... Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:51:35 Anyone with such a strong opinion is likely to be on their high horse, no matter which stance they take on any club issue.
I can't say I blame people for getting a bit high and mighty when it comes to things Luggy says, simply because the supporters have been around a lot longer than he has. Naturally, they'll feel more familiar with the situation (plight?) of the the club. Also, whilst Luggy is a good manager, these fans have stuck with the club through the highs and lows. They have kept this club going. One can't help but feel Luggy's cmments are more than a little patronising. That's the issue I personally have. Let's not forget these reactions are far from knee jerk - we've had years of being in trouble. Getting somone to continuously bail us out will not wash - SSW won't be around forever. The club needs to re-think how it runs this operation and thus far it's just turned back to the only way it knows - not paying the bills until someone serious knocks on the door to collect their debt. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Melksham Red on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:55:00 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Personally I hold Sturock in high esteem and am prepared to listen and give thought to his views.....to the extent if he asks us to back off before games, then I believe it right to do so. It still leaves after games, so its not like he's saying no protests at all.....its unfortunate that he comes out in support of Diamond Mike, but he's probabaly a bit relieved that the scummer and co have done a runner, and whether we like it or not he's got to work with Newbury. I'd imagine any number of us hold differing views about our bosses, for public and private consumption.. Cheers Reg. That's pretty much how i'd have liked to put it but am not learned enough! Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:55:09 i want sturrock to keep out of board matters because it'll compromise his position. i don't want our best manager for a decade to be tarred with the same brush as the board...
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 09:55:17 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "Iffy's Onion Bhaji" But it's not the fact that Sturrock is telling us to not protest, it's the fact that the board wheeled him out because they were shitting themselves. Therefore i am inclined to not like what he says because i know he is playing board lapdog. Fair enough.....bung Sturrock into the pot then, when it comes to protest...after me 1..2..3...The Swindon Board....and Paul Stur..rock is full of shit....is full of shit...The Swindon Board etc... Never said i'd include Luggy in a protest at all Reg :wink: Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: pauld on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 10:18:19 Quote from: "Melksham Red" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Personally I hold Sturock in high esteem and am prepared to listen and give thought to his views.....to the extent if he asks us to back off before games, then I believe it right to do so. It still leaves after games, so its not like he's saying no protests at all.....its unfortunate that he comes out in support of Diamond Mike, but he's probabaly a bit relieved that the scummer and co have done a runner, and whether we like it or not he's got to work with Newbury. I'd imagine any number of us hold differing views about our bosses, for public and private consumption.. Cheers Reg. That's pretty much how i'd have liked to put it but am not learned enough! And FWIW, also neatly summarises why the Trust acceded to Sturrock's request not to protest before the game. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: lebowski on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 10:22:42 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Personally I hold Sturock in high esteem and am prepared to listen and give thought to his views.....to the extent if he asks us to back off before games, then I believe it right to do so. It still leaves after games, so its not like he's saying no protests at all.....its unfortunate that he comes out in support of Diamond Mike, but he's probabaly a bit relieved that the scummer and co have done a runner, and whether we like it or not he's got to work with Newbury. I'd imagine any number of us hold differing views about our bosses, for public and private consumption.. probably the most reasonable and sane post i've seen over the past 4 months. very well said. :thumbs: Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 10:36:08 Quote from: "lebowski" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Personally I hold Sturock in high esteem and am prepared to listen and give thought to his views.....to the extent if he asks us to back off before games, then I believe it right to do so. It still leaves after games, so its not like he's saying no protests at all.....its unfortunate that he comes out in support of Diamond Mike, but he's probabaly a bit relieved that the scummer and co have done a runner, and whether we like it or not he's got to work with Newbury. I'd imagine any number of us hold differing views about our bosses, for public and private consumption.. probably the most reasonable and sane post i've seen over the past 4 months. very well said. :thumbs: Agreed. But any more than three of them a year would be a bit much on here :) Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 11:03:24 oh shit.....where did that come from then, I must be losing my marbles :?
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 11:12:59 bit of a u turn on the post about getting at them if you didn't know better though reg?
Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 11:33:24 Quote from: "arriba" bit of a u turn on the post about getting at them if you didn't know better though reg? What the post about the Trust board ? OK, I don't think that our elected reps, have been nobbled by Mikey D.....it was a joke. Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Phil_S on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 12:14:23 Re the TRUST, what members say & post can't, isn't & shouldn't be controlled by the TRUST board. Although a memeber of the TRUST, I post as a normal fan. None of my views are or should be endorsed by the TRUSt or any one else.
If we don't like what the TRUST board say or do on our behalf we vote accordingly. So for example, you don't like Paul Davis you vote him out. If nobody stands against him you can. Only recently the whole board put up for re-election & were ALL voted back on. There were other people standing too so it was a contest. The vote was also totally independently scrutinised & organised by another TRUST. (Brissle City) Title: Luggy's Latest Post by: Arriba on Saturday, October 20, 2007, 16:54:45 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "arriba" bit of a u turn on the post about getting at them if you didn't know better though reg? What the post about the Trust board ? OK, I don't think that our elected reps, have been nobbled by Mikey D.....it was a joke. i know reg,as was mine |