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Not being funny, but weve got all these plans for Tranmere and stuff. But what happens if the board announces the deal is 99.9per cent complete next friday?

The Tranmere game is (realistically) the only time we can protest and make something happen. We need to be able to react just as quickly as them. Waiting for a vote at a meeting (as the TRUST have been doing) its too late for that now.

I think we should keep an open mind that things might change dailly from now on. Il make my choice next friday night. If its looking much better Il be in the Town End. But if Bobs just come out the woodwork begging for funds again Il be in the north stand going mental.

ditto

Sorry, know what you are trying to say but the only thing that will make me change my mind is for a statement to be released saying that the deal is now complete.

I have been lied to once too often, and if I was them I would issue a statement on Friday afternoon calling for calm as the deal will be completed monday, in an attempt to stave off further protests.

Sorry..........I wont buy it !

it would depend what the statement said before we could make any judgment - i think thats what SW is saying, that things will change quick and we need to be prepared to do the same.

is there any progress with the march arrangements?
is anyone taking a lead in this or is it still at the ideas stage at the moment?

fuck it lets go down there right now and set up a peace camp!

It's friday today, traditionally bullshit statement day.

5pm this afternoon i reckon.

What else can we do though?

Tbh i am expecting a statement sometime during the next week saying everything has been sorted out just so a repeat of Tuesday doesn't happen.Of course it'll all be rubbish but most supporters will believe it.

i think the monday meeting is intended as a time to form a definate plan for a way forward.

march march march march!

Id say the march is one of the things Im on about. You need a massive amount of organisation, a massive amount of people all for something that might become obsolete at 5pm next friday. Also a march in my opinion is not something they will take any notice of. Unfortunately if you want them to take notice its got to be a bit unpleasant and in their faces.

Keep it simple!

We can't all be jumping the barriers having ago at the stewards and being agressive though,i know its not in my nature at least.
Surely there is room for everyone doing what they want to do?Be it a march,singing an anti-board song or standing outside the ground after the final whistle?It'll all add up,though tbh i can't see any of it helping :(

What like the one in mid-August? And mid-September? That's the problem - we've been told so often that something is the case that turns out later to be just so much hogwash (or a transparent attempt to buy time) that it's now nigh on impossible to know when to believe even the most definitive-sounding statement, if at all.

Why not both tho Spence? the march would get good media coverage and keep the protests in the spotlight where we need them to be.  More reports on the news, front page of the adver would be great.  The more and more impact we make here the more people can keep reading the story and be influenced.  The media is our avenue to hit people that stopped going and say just follow the results, people that are undecided and people that don't know all the facts so I would say it is key as we try to keep the campaign going.

I know its not popular but I also agree in your face treatment will work as well.  At the moment Diamandis sees us more as pest's who will just go away he doesn't fully understand how much the club means to us all.  He has taken companies under in the past and faced anger from locals but he has never taken a company / club the size of Swindon under, I really believe he is underestimating what the response would be like if he took the club under.

Besides which Fred is being sill. False completion dates are set for Tuesdays and Thursdays, Fridays are reserved for statements. If we get Mondays and Wednesdays sorted we'll have something for every day of the working week.

To be truthful I dont think we will get the turnout for a march. What if only 60 people turn up? Everyone gets disheartened. Weve got to make it easier for ourselves. Dont mean to put you on a downer. But it would be a miracle to get a decent turnout. If it rains you'll be fucked as well. And Id rather go down the pub, then hit them later where it can hurt them, in and around the ground.

But at the end of the day, if its something you want to do fair play to you. But I think its over ambitious, a long shot and not that effective.

I really don't think now is the time to get nervy about the possible turnout for a march or any other type of protest.  The possibility that the club may go to the wall makes me shudder.  The possibility that only 60 people might turn up for a march doesn't.  In the scheme of things, being a little disheartened is a risk I think I'm prepared to take.

And I think you'll be pleasantly surprised at the turn out for a well organised event, in any case.  At the very least, I think it would match our average away following...and could exceed it by some way.

Didn't look that way on Tuesday night.  :mrgreen:

I think the board will announce something friday before the day to placate the fans. Its simple divide and rule. Its all up in the air, and Im sure they will come up with some positive spin next week. Then you'll get all sorts of simpletons slagging you off for not supporting the club.

We cant set the agenda we can only react.

I have to admit im a bit unsure about the whole march thing as well.To be honest ive not really read the plans for it because I dont think it will work.It means people putting themselves out and be it right or wrong only certain people will.

abuse and intimidation will do nobody any good.

or harm

yes it could macca.possibilty of negative press.neutrals seeing people as thugs! etc,etc

I think Spencer has a point, in that we probably need to plan several things, especially if a statement will eradicate a lot of protest.

I suppose the ideal solution would be to have a group of people willing and able to plan and carry out something independent of the march etc., but were able to let a wider audience know should certain events arise.

The march is a flawed idea.

I dont believe that many people would turn up and walking round the town centre does not effect the board or the Wills in any way, shape or from. People would be much better off protesting in and around the CG.  A least there everyone is going to have an opinion as oposed to the apathetic masses of Swindon.

I think we need 'spotters' at every possible exit from the ground after the next game.

They'd never be able to sneak out then.

I took this idea from Football Factory :D

fair points them colin.
i'm just against getting in their faces and stuff like that.anything thats peacefull i'm for

Don't lose sight of the fact that we are trying to save our club here. Ok they may release statements etc, but I don't really care what they say any more. It's what they do that counts. So what if only 50 turn up for a march. it can't do any harm. I happen to think a lot more will turn up. I fully expect the GW bar to be full on Monday, & I guess that all of those, the ones who protested on Tusday AND the ones on the internet forums (And I know there is some duplication), wi;; add up to several hundred.
I guess my point is, that if we hang about waiting for everything to be right, we'll be waiting whilst our club goes under. I'd rather look an idiot on a march than lose my club.

Over the last few years I have seen this board slag off the fans far more than the fans slag off the board. Anyone remmember the Will's outrage at the TRUST? The rageing official statements of last season (probably written by Mike). The numerous 'put up or we will close the club' statements over the years (when they had no such intention).

And weve sat by, bemused, amused even, but definately downtrodden. Letting them carry on. Especially before Bill Power when we never thought there would be anyone better.

But there is a lack of respect there. It needs to be put right. In your face is the way to go. How else are you going to make a board take notice of fans they have treated like shit for 5 years?

i agree with everything exept the in your face bit.there is no wrong or right answer really imo.
i dont think anybody will be able to get anywhere near any of them anyway.

Again I disagree. Seeing as we have one of the most open corporate boxes in the football league. Isnt even a corporate box really.

I wouldnt slag anyone off in a serious way unless Id be prepared to say it to their face anyway.

in their face, make them feel as uncomfortable as possible. we should surround the fucking corporate area until they have fucked off. there was only half a dozen of us on tuesday and sandy gray took flight, for tranmere i want a fucking seige.

Lets see where we are next week.

But if there was a game tommorow, Id be there, no doubt.

100%

I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't even turn up against Tranmere..........

i can forsee agro between fellow supporters,ground bans ect if you follow that route.
they will be expecting it after tuesday too.

oooh banned, give a fuck, how can they ban you if there is no club?

Me and bennett would have been there if the guy in the ticket office knew what "around centre" meant. If doesnt mean right on the far right.

retard.

Ask for block AR4.

Bring it on.

You dont have to sit in the seat you are given,I never do.

we have seen the picture in the paper olive, we are fully aware you are a rebel :D

:D

Lots of people in the Arkells and lots of noise in that stand is needed. I don't see what a march would do to be honest as it would probably at the ned of the game.

i still think on the pitch at full time. the whole ground can take part then.

everyone will still be in the ground: either we're winning and everyone's waiting for the final whistle, or we're drawing/losing and everyone wants to give a bit.

are they going to ban 1'000 pitch invaders? the ground will be empty for the rest of the season.

the only problem with this is if it rains and the pitch is a quagmire - i dont want my chuck taylors getting muddy.

there will never be a thousand pitch invaders. more like 50 to 100 max.

oh come on, people love going on the pitch!

:D

Just say "last one on the pitch is a Girl" it used to work a treat back in the School days.

Not wanting to put a damper on things but I think that if this is not resolved by midweek, there won't be a Tranmere game.

http://www.angryalien.com/0604/titanicbunnies.html

And we will get more fines, Great  :roll:

If the march has banners/placards whatever you could change these to suit as necessary following a statement. Be prepared for anything between "Castrate .........(complete as appropriate)" and "Congratulations on a successful takeover"

i didn't say it was a good idea or not- i said you wouldn't get a thousand people doing it.