Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, October 12, 2007, 08:13:11 Sorry for making another new topic, but I wanted to make sure people see this.
What are people's opinions on knocking up a website? I know Olive wasn't too savvy with the idea, but personally I think it'll be a great tool to draw attention to our plight. I think the whole point of the website should be to give outsiders an idea of what the hell is going on, like fans of other clubs and the (national) media. I don't think we should use it to try and drum up support from other Swindon fans, we can do that through the forums and the local media. If we're to go ahead with this then I'm more than happy to build the website myself - but I will need people to generate content. It'd need to be fairly simple and straight to the point. IMO, a kind of FAQ would be good like: What's this all about? Why are we doing this? Please leave your ideas... Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Luci on Friday, October 12, 2007, 08:18:18 I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Luci on Friday, October 12, 2007, 09:08:03 Sam can I also say that as there are near on 300 members for the save swindon facebook group, be good to post the link (if you can create the site) there as well.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: sonic youth on Friday, October 12, 2007, 09:24:21 too many websites, the message becomes diluted and we get bogged down with too many different sites etc
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: tans on Friday, October 12, 2007, 09:53:38 Sounds like a good idea to me sam.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Friday, October 12, 2007, 10:14:46 Sounds like a waste of your time Sam.
IMO, with time restraints as they are, something with more immediate impact is needed. Basically, getting this out through the press. Again and again and again... Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Frasier3 on Friday, October 12, 2007, 10:21:55 Quote from: "Albert" too many websites, the message becomes diluted and we get bogged down with too many different sites etc Agreed. As it stands we are organising a protest against Diamandis and the Board on one set date. Will another site make this process easier or more successfull in the space of a week? A dedicated website would perhaps be useful if we progress to a longer term campaign with specific ideas on saving the club eg promoting the fans consortium or backing a new investor. If SSW and/or Diamandis were to say they are off tomorrow what would we do then. Do we have an agreed strategy, who will decide on the aims of the website, as if it just to share ideas and opinions can't it just be kept here or open up TUMDFC All things to discuss on Monday I think. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:07:17 Quote from: "STFCLady" I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media. Don't take this the wrong way, but I find that a bit of a nasty thing to say - as a journalist I've never lied in anything I've broadcast/written, and neither have any of my colleagues. To say that as a group of people we all lie is a bit out of order. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Lash_sumthin on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:23:09 just pull the ebay stunt someone suggest and put the club up with a buy it now of 18million :D
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Batch on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:23:47 Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media. Don't take this the wrong way, but I find that a bit of a nasty thing to say - as a journalist I've never lied in anything I've broadcast/written, and neither have any of my colleagues. To say that as a group of people we all lie is a bit out of order. If you were all liers you'd be lying now :) Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:23:53 I agree with Sussex (for once) It's a good idea in the long term but at the moment we need to concentrate on just getting something out there with an immediate effect.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:27:58 I voted yes, but have been persuaded otherwise by the posts on here.
So it's a no from me. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:42:22 Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media. Don't take this the wrong way, but I find that a bit of a nasty thing to say - as a journalist I've never lied in anything I've broadcast/written, and neither have any of my colleagues. To say that as a group of people we all lie is a bit out of order. If you were all liers you'd be lying now :) :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: In my line of work it isn't a good idea to lie - you eventually get caught out. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: reeves4england on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:55:58 Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "Batch" Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media. Don't take this the wrong way, but I find that a bit of a nasty thing to say - as a journalist I've never lied in anything I've broadcast/written, and neither have any of my colleagues. To say that as a group of people we all lie is a bit out of order. If you were all liers you'd be lying now :) :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: In my line of work it isn't a good idea to lie - you eventually get caught out. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 11:58:28 Not from here it hasn't ...
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Luci on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:30:55 Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media. Don't take this the wrong way, but I find that a bit of a nasty thing to say - as a journalist I've never lied in anything I've broadcast/written, and neither have any of my colleagues. To say that as a group of people we all lie is a bit out of order. Im not saying you have and my comments are not aimed at any particular media. All Im saying is that if club staff are saying that certain reports are innaccurate, you dont want to be known for preaching facts that aren't 100% confirmed. Look stupid otherwise. Im sorry if you found it "nasty" however the media are renowned for making mountains out of molehills. I won't be taking back what I said in my original post either. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:38:19 Ace. Let's all have an argument :mrgreen:
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Power to people on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:44:40 I'd say there isn't a lot of point, we'd only need that possibly if we was fundraising to report everything that get's said and by whom, but as someone suggested it is something for Monday nights discussions
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:46:46 Quote from: "STFCLady" Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" I think its a good idea as long as the content is based on fact and not whats reported in the media. Don't take this the wrong way, but I find that a bit of a nasty thing to say - as a journalist I've never lied in anything I've broadcast/written, and neither have any of my colleagues. To say that as a group of people we all lie is a bit out of order. Im not saying you have and my comments are not aimed at any particular media. All Im saying is that if club staff are saying that certain reports are innaccurate, you dont want to be known for preaching facts that aren't 100% confirmed. Look stupid otherwise. Im sorry if you found it "nasty" however the media are renowned for making mountains out of molehills. I won't be taking back what I said in my original post either. Well that's up to you ... we'll agree to disagree 'cos I can't be bothered to drag this thread into a silly argument. :) Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Luci on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:48:27 Fine by me.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:48:35 tabliod journos never lie
http://polnotes.typepad.com/windfarmblog/images/pinocchio.gif Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:54:22 Quote from: "STFCLady" Fine by me. Good. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: janaage on Friday, October 12, 2007, 12:55:55 You two sound like a married couple!!
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: axs on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:04:19 Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" Fine by me. Good. no i want the last word! Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:19:58 Quote from: "axs" Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCLady" Fine by me. Good. no i want the last word! Just like a typical bloke. :wink: Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: axs on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:23:42 too right - makes us feel like we've won. :D
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:25:40 Absolutely. Now be quiet, Birdy, I'm sitting in the corner with a stern face pretending I'm not pissed off.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Luci on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:26:17 *Rolling pin in hand*
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: axs on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:29:11 best go to your garden shed for a bit chris!
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:31:52 Quote from: "axs" best go to your garden shed for a bit chris! Christ no - I'll end up like this fella: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/somerset/7041059.stm Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:31:53 Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Absolutely. Now be quiet, Birdy, I'm sitting in the corner with a stern face pretending I'm not pissed off. You'll never win :wink: :D Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:34:53 flammableAndy?
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: axs on Friday, October 12, 2007, 13:36:40 there's enough flammable-ness on here already.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, October 12, 2007, 14:03:41 Quote from: "STFCBird" Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Absolutely. Now be quiet, Birdy, I'm sitting in the corner with a stern face pretending I'm not pissed off. You'll never win :wink: :D Hehehe ... I've learned that many times over the years! Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: STFCBird on Friday, October 12, 2007, 14:07:54 Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Quote from: "STFCBird" Quote from: "Terry Tibbs" Absolutely. Now be quiet, Birdy, I'm sitting in the corner with a stern face pretending I'm not pissed off. You'll never win :wink: :D Hehehe ... I've learned that many times over the years! :D Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: herthab on Friday, October 12, 2007, 14:46:44 On a serious note, the people who look on the internet for news already know about the planned protests. Another website won't achieve anything.
We need to get it out to the majority of fans who don't go websites and forums and for that we need other forms of media; specifically the Adver. There's probably less than a few hundred who regularly use their PC's for updates. Shouldn't we be trying to spread the news to the thousands that don't? Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Friday, October 12, 2007, 14:58:42 Quote from: "herthab" On a serious note, the people who look on the internet for news already know about the planned protests. Another website won't achieve anything. We need to get it out to the majority of fans who don't go websites and forums and for that we need other forms of media; specifically the Adver. There's probably less than a few hundred who regularly use their PC's for updates. Shouldn't we be trying to spread the news to the thousands that don't? What like newspaper ads (or the billboard idea)? Excuse me if I'm being naive or I've got you wrong, but I think a printed advertisement of whats going on would work well. Essentially it'd serve the purpose of the proposed website (which I still voted 'yes' for) and sum up succintly whats happening, why its happening, what we're doing etc. It'd reach those people who don't use the internet better. Apologies if this has already been suggested or is an idea in the works elsewhere, I have terrible trouble keeping up with all thats going on! [edit] :oops: ...just re-read your post and noticed you specifially mentioned the Adver...in which case, I agree! Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: justboiledover on Friday, October 12, 2007, 21:41:09 I voted yes.
A new website might not recruit anyone completely new to the cause but could help in a slightly different way: A scenario that i can see, based on similar examples from the last 12 months, is that on a friday before a home game a statement comes from Mr Fault claiming good news. Some people (fewer every time) believe him, most don't but the majority of people aren't sure what to do about it, wheter to protest, how to protest etc. When a statement comes out the normal message boards invariably go mad (not a critisism of any site but when big news or something controversial is anounsed to a room full of people everyone chats loudly and nothing gets sorted till the noise dies down, in our case this could be too late). Sorry about rambling around a bit but my point is someone who visits a message board wont be able to separate fact from opinion on the ten threads that will start, there will be no news updates as it all shuts down shortly after the time the Mr Fault makes Mr Di's statement for him. Therefore I think a Website which cronicles the news and the trust response in a simplistic way would be a real asset to the cause. Whether we are talking too late to make a difference I don't know but if someone has the time and expetise to give it a go I'm grateful to them. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Crozzer on Friday, October 12, 2007, 22:52:16 Voted no to a new site, this site should be used as it is the most tasteful.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Whits on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 09:00:22 Quote this site should be used as it is the most tasteful. :? Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 09:07:19 Quote from: "Whits" Quote this site should be used as it is the most tasteful. :? What do you mean? This place is a hive of taste and decorum. Sort of. :| Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 13:33:33 I'm not voting. Democracy is populist, short-termist and weakens leadership. We need someone strong to take charge.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: pauld on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 16:16:30 Quote from: "flammableBen" I'm not voting. Democracy is populist, short-termist and weakens leadership. We need someone strong to take charge. :shock: fuhrerBen Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 17:16:51 The strongest argument against democracy is a five minute discussion with the average voter.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Red81 on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 17:33:02 I just feel that not that many people actually give a shit about our football club anymore. Considering the population of Swindon about 150k I reckon, not that many people actually go week in week out. Guaranteed 4.5k?? I can't really blame the rest, as much as it fucks me off.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 17:49:06 Quote from: "Red81" Considering the population of Swindon about 150k I reckon 180k. According to the Trust survey, half of the support comes from outside Swindon Borough. So being generous, that's 3k in 180k. Or less than 2%. Do we (as Swindon people) deserve a league team? Moot point. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 17:58:06 Quote from: "TalkTalk" According to the Trust survey, half of the support comes from outside Swindon Borough. There's a lot of us stupid fuckers spread around the country TT! :D Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Red81 on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 18:14:30 It's fucking depressing.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: yeo on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 18:30:18 Surely its pretty much the same wherever you go
Leeds population is around 450,000 they had 27,000 there today. Peterborough population is 140,000 they get around the same as us probably less Bournemouth 170,000 same amount as us at games Its not paticular to Swindon. Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: spacey on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 18:32:28 Have you been doing research? Nerdlinger!
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: yeo on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 18:40:25 Nah Im an expert on Populations ,I know the 2001 Census off by heart :D
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: spacey on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 18:42:15 What's the population of Chesterfield?
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 18:53:24 Quote from: "spacey" What's the population of Chesterfield? I met a Chesterfield fan whilst on holiday on a little island, called Margarita, off the coast of Venezuela a few years ago. 92,000? Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Red81 on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 19:09:39 Quote from: "Sussex" Quote from: "spacey" What's the population of Chesterfield? I met a Chesterfield fan whilst on holiday on a little island, called Margarita, off the coast of Venezuela a few years ago. 92,000? Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 19:23:48 Quote from: "Red81" Quote from: "Sussex" Quote from: "spacey" What's the population of Chesterfield? I met a Chesterfield fan whilst on holiday on a little island, called Margarita, off the coast of Venezuela a few years ago. 92,000? Just checked, Google reckons 98,000. You win. (cheating little fucker) :wink: Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Red81 on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 19:25:04 :D Google rules.
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 21:28:40 Quote from: "Sussex" Quote from: "spacey" What's the population of Chesterfield? I met a Chesterfield fan whilst on holiday on a little island, called Margarita, off the coast of Venezuela a few years ago. 92,000? Did you take this piss out of her? Stupid fucking name Magarita....................................... Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 21:49:33 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "Sussex" Quote from: "spacey" What's the population of Chesterfield? I met a Chesterfield fan whilst on holiday on a little island, called Margarita, off the coast of Venezuela a few years ago. 92,000? Did you take this piss out of her? Stupid fucking name Magarita....................................... [polite response]The island is called Margarita[/polite response] If you weren't such a hard bastard I'd have replyed differently. :D Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 21:53:29 Too easy :D
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Sussex on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:13:02 Still not biting hop along...
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: herthab on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:15:07 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Sorry Paul, just trying to relieve the boredom......................
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Bennett on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:19:09 didn't andy do that on webcam with that northern lass?
Title: save-our-swindon.co.uk Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, October 13, 2007, 22:22:12 :soapy tit wank:
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