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The more I hear from that bloke the less and less I am starting to like him.

He's now telling fans that the action on Tuesday night wasn't in the clubs best interests!!  :wanker:

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindontown/headlines/display.var.1754944.0.patience_is_best_for_all.php

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindontown/headlines/display.var.1754963.0.town_takeover_deal_is_not_dead.php

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindontown/headlines/display.var.1754963.0.town_takeover_deal_is_not_dead.php

I'm not impressed with what he had to say at all.  It's as if he's talking to us like we're children.  He has not been around long enough to tell us to be calm.  I've said my piece on this and leave it at that, but Little, Brevitt and Jose are not on my Christmas card list at this moment in time.  I hate secrets and silence, it is not the way to conduct yourself, especially at this crucial time in OUR club's history.

I'm confused:

[Jim Little] said: "When we first started talking we made sure there was not an exclusivity clause.

But Holt said on Tuesday:

"When we signed the contract with the Portuguese people they had an exclusivity to it while we dealt with them.

It is fair to say it has come to a point where that exclusivity has expired."

Patronising twat - how the fuck DARE he come out with a load of drivel like that.....

It's the secrecy that's got us to this stage so far you effing moron.

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Hes talking like hes been around for years!  

If he says we shouldnt blame the current board as they've done a great job running the club then who the f*ck is responsible for the never ending debt accumalated year after year?

Clueless fucking moron - this is almost akin to Andronikou's 'busybodies' insult.

Un - ber - fucking - leave - able.

EXACTLY what the fuck does this tit think that fans should do? Keep their fucking heads in the sand and shut the fuck up - while still parting with your hard-earned of course.

Patronising twat he seems exactly like the current regime and their 'don't you dare criticise us' stance. As others have said the more I hear the less I like he seems to be as slimy and evasive as the current lot

woah fucking calm down people

These people are likely to be our last hope and you want to brand them cunts etc

Sorry Macca but it seems to me like the current lot are wheeling out a different figurehead each day to condemn the actions of the fans - even though we have perfectly good reason to take a stance.

I understand the frustration and anger, but have to agree with Macca.  We might not like it, but this chap represents our best chance of survival.  I am fairly sure he wants to do a deal, but is none too keen on paying a £11 million premium to James Wills and Diamandis for shag all.  Which I think is understandable.

No problem with that but don't send out such a patronising message to the masses then.

"They (the board) are doing absolutely everything they can to make sure the club continues and they have been doing that for years.

"They should be commended for their efforts so that the club will be in a good state and healthy regardess of the speculation.

"There is not a lot of selfishness at Swindon Town."

My fucking arse they are. It's because of these tits being in charge that we are in the sorry state that we are FFS.

No you aren't confused, one of those statements is a big fat lie.

Other than that, the statements are obviously designed to get us fans to back the fuck off. What we have to decide is whether that is the right thing to do.

There is enough in that article to make you realise this deal is anything but 'done' from BESTs point of view though.

Sorry Lady we have a right to be angry of course we do and im as angry as the next person. Little is probably being a bit media savvy and saying these things to keep the current lot sweet. We cannot afford to start blaming the wrong people though otherwise we will be fucked. Imagine if we go bust and find that veiga and co were put off by the abuse they got off fans before they had even taken over.

I dont see how any of this is the fault of them

Reading between the lines surely to Christ all the man is saying is "for fuck sake you lot calm down there's still a chance of us doing this deal and you're not helping".

I don't blame him for saying that, he's sort of forced into it because of his position.

However, he can fuck off! This deal isn't being threatened by a few hundred people venting their spleens at the board, it's being threatened by the greed of that board.

The more people can let the bastards know that  we're aware of that and that we're not fucking happy the better.

I hope SSW has found the time to develop another leisure interest 'cause I don't think he's going to find the welcome at the County Ground all that friendly in the future if we survive.

I do agree with you (Macca), I'm just p*ssed off that they are using different people in the media to give the impression things are under control when they aren't.

Do you think that statement was really for our benefit ? i think that was for the benefit of the current board

... and the reason this deal, that was apparently agreed about 6 WEEKS ago with new chairmen being introduced to the TV and has been dragging on since then etc etc has fallen through is because of some protests THREE DAYS ago ?!!  FUCK OFF !!

Its only 'minor paperwork' people...

Macca is 100% right. I'm not really sure what else you expect Little to have said whilst negoitiations are at a delicate stage.  

Giving an interview to the adver that states the current lot are a set of incompentant fools isnt going to help him and his chums buy the club is it? Not everything people say in the media is true or a genuine reflection of how they feel is it?

Can we please try not lynch what appears to be the only hope the club has got left. Or at least wait til they've been in charge for a month or 2?

In part.....Yes - hence the 'calm down calm down everything going to be OK' message - that has nothing to do with appeasing the Board. The other crap (in bold above) was for the Board's benefit.

I agree with Macca, he's trying to ensure that in the media at least they are not the bad guys.  I don't blame BEST for any of this and I think he's just doing what he thinks best given the press coverage (he mentions a boycott for example so clearly doesn't really know what is going on and why).

The exclusivity thing shows up very clearly that both sides are singing of different hymh sheets.

I do wish people would speak with a little more info to hand and little less patronisingly though.  If you can't begin to worry when the club is technically open to a winding-up order being served any day, by people who have just done the same thing to another club, when can you?

Jim, it's not your fault, just remember that.  It is someones fault the the club is in the terrible position it is though.

The exclusivity thing seems quite clear to me

When they started talking about the deal there wasnt one

When BEST signed some sort of non-binding commitment to buy the club an exclusivity clause was part of that. This has now expired

Simple

The fans are the blood of the club, so slagging them off is ok?

What we did on Tuesday wasn't wrong.

He is not slagging us off though is he.

Holt
diamandis

They have slagged us off and that is why we want to remove them but whats the point of trying to remove them if their is no one to replace them with

BEST might not even be around much longer anyhow. so if they pull the plug we don't proceed with the protests...??





Thought so.

Ive read it twice and I cant see what you are getting so worked up about.

Well said olive or whatever your name is  :D

Although when Best walk away its obvious we are going to get the blame for it,in some ways weve given the board a get out clause by protesting :D

no, me neither.

To me he's a patronising american.  :twisted:

who cares.  They can blame who they like.  I didn't spend £12m more of the clubs money than it had over 6 years.

I also don't really think Jim's comments mean much, just him covering his own side of thngs.

Anyway he seems happy enough to talk to the Adver after they revealed the super secret details of the deal. Sturrock isn't happy about the story, Holt isn't happy about the story but Little seems unconcerned...

As the Dude says "It's like what Lenin said... you look for the person who will benefit, and, uh.."

Personally I think there maybe also an element of Jim Little calling the board's bluff regarding the; 'there's other people interested so hurry up and sign' comments by Holt on Tuesday.

I'm thinking specifically of this:

"whether we come to an agreement or not they are going to have to make sure the club is on a better financial footing.

"If that means they have to find other resources, I care about the club and would love to be a part of it, but if the club can be in a healthy position regardless of my situation I would be over the moon."

http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=24195

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Another interview and still no word on what Little/BEST's plans for the club are. Deliberatley avoiding all of these questions........

- Will the team be run on merit, and not as a shop window for agents? Will he dismantle the current team for foreigners being peddled by agents?

- Will he ensure STFC stays in Swindon?

- Does Sturrock have his backing?

- What would be Veiga's role? The bloke has allegations of corruption back in Portugal.

Heard the end of an interview on BBC RS with him this morning. They asked about Sturrock and though I only just caught the end of it I think he gave the usual "doing a great job...we are winning" that he gave to Sky sports @ Yeovil.

Anyone else hear what he said ?

Doesnt it strike anyone else as a bit FISHY that they havnt revealed any of their potential plans for the club?

Besides, this latest interview sounds more like a dictat from Dunwoody/the current board. The reasons for this could be any of 3 things I rekon.

1. Jim Little is a mug and he seriously thinks that STFC has been competantly run and 'SELFLESSLY!!!!' WTF!

2. Jim Little is smoothing things over to try and get a deal done. The leak of the deal to the Adver (and it was a leak, notice no backing down from the Adver whatsoever, 18m is factual) probably came from Little/BEST. He might think leaking the deal was a mistake as he can see the fans going awol.

3. Jim Little is planning to run the financial side of STFC in the same corrupt and haphazard way it has been run by Dunwoody. Black holes, no accounts, no transparency etc. He doesnt want to let on that STFC could be a lot lot better in charge of more professional people so that they can TAKE more for themselves.

It's got to be number 2  (in all senses)

Well we may have got their intentions all wrong, but with a lack of intention from them and looking at what they have already done it is indeed fishier that captain birseyes codpiece.

If there was another way forward not involving BEST on the table then that would be great.

If there isn't, and the deal folds it's probably curtains. I'm not sure HMRC and certain other creditors will swallow an "it's all gone wrong but don't worry, there may be another investor" story now.

Like it or not, I don't see an alternative to BEST.

More here - including audio interview:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2007/10/12/stfc_121007_feature.shtml

Thats in reference to the current lot not jim little. Now go suck bales cock

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 :D

Interesting interview on the BBC here with Little...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/articles/2007/10/12/stfc_121007_feature.shtml

Pretty much sums up today’s Adver article although there’s a lot of emphasis on “differences of opinion” on where the money would go and would be used for.

He confirms no exclusivity cause from day one.

Surprised that the figures in the Adver got into the public domain and they were pretty much on the mark.

He reads all of the ‘blogs’ (Hello Jim).

“Jose is climbing the walls in Portugal.”

No confirmation but it sounds like we could be talking days before the deal blows.

the board have been thoroughly out-manoeuvred by him.