Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:13:15 Can someone post what is going on and when it is going on and I will bang this on the other forums/vital Swindon town etc along with other people doing it. Its best we are all singing off the same hymn sheet. We need to get as many people as possible out tonight.
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:15:54 as far as I understand it
about 50 people will end up outside the arkells afterwards, shouting and swearing making STFC fans look like complete dick heads infront of a TV crew and later on the news. Please tell me im wrong.... Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Sippo on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:17:13 Quote from: "DV" as far as I understand it about 50 people will end up outside the arkells afterwards, shouting and swearing making STFC fans look like complete dick heads infront of a TV crew and later on the news. Please tell me im wrong.... Thats what I'm scared it will look like, and we'll become a laughing stock.... Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:17:19 We've got to do something Dan, it really could be now or never.
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:18:24 I'm afraid you could be right DV, but things are starting to look pretty bad and we might not get another chance.
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:19:07 DV, Sippo, grow a fucking neck - both of you.
Like Tom said, it's do or die really. This could very really be our last ever game tonight. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:19:54 Quote from: "Kinky Tom" We've got to do something Dan, it really could be now or never. I agree we've got to do something, dont get me wrong.... .....but in slightly more relaxed terms we said the same thing last year, got 50 people turn up....some dick heads just shouting words like fuck off and cunt a few times.....then back into the CGH for more beer. I know its been said, but someone needs to say right....outside the entrance before the game......then behind the directors during the game and back outside after the game till they leave, not till you want another pint till they leave....if its 1am its 1 fucking am. Plus, what do we sing and shout whilst we are there? again we dont want to look like idiots and be swearing consistantly for the TV crew because they wont even show it if we do. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:21:38 i honestly think pre match will be more effective.camera's will be there from 5.30 so surely this needs to be taken advantage of?
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:21:38 Quote from: "Samdy Gray" DV, Sippo, grow a fucking neck - both of you. Like Tom said, it's do or die really. This could very really be our last ever game tonight. I've got a neck, and testicles twice the size of it.....but if this going to be done and this could be our last chance it HAS to be done properly and effectivly. Last seasons attempts, lets be honest were pathetic..... Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:25:25 because it was a handfull of people wanting to keep it all on the QT. This time people don't give a shit and want it to be public knowledge.
Come up with a simple plan such as: 1) March of several hundred (should just about manage that from everyone on here and a few recruits at the time) on the turnstiles about 5 mins before kick off (meaning you don't lose the drinkers and might get a few last minute additions). 2) 1 or 2 simple Board Out style chants, as you say without abuse 3) Congregate afterwards, pass on the word during the game even if you don't know the person next to you. Most will say piss off, some may join for a bit. Get the word out about all 3 now. Unfortunately I'm off sick today, so an appearance on TV could be my job, otherwise I'd be there is spades. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:25:50 Gary I think this calls for a leader to unite behind ... now is your time ... take control Mr Stanley and lead the troops forward.
Seriously tho ... It needs someone to organise it as Gary has stated at the beginning of this thread ... Gary is someone to look up to so I say it should be he - he is a good representative of the ordinary fan Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:28:01 I think in the ground during the game is best.
I know Il get slagged off, but Its the only way now. This is it now, we are fucked. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:29:22 Quote from: "Spencer_White" I think in the ground during the game is best. I know Il get slagged off, but Its the only way now. This is it now, we are fucked. Yep, as per my point 2, in the ground and people will join in in numbers. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:29:37 would anything like a stand out/sit in work
Either dont go to the game, or dont leave.... Maybe all on the pitch afterwards for a sit down protest....storm the board room.....rather than just chants Also, what would happen to Wills loan if he suddendly died?! Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: janaage on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:30:13 Do you know who should lead this??
Someone like Phil King. IF this is as serious as it sounds surely Phil would be up to be the figurehead of such a movement. Now is not the time for the likes of Paul D or Gary (no offence to either) trying to show the board and other fans that the board are screwing us. We need Phil, an ex-player with only the clubs best interests at heart, to tell it how it is. F*** his commentary connections, or the fact he may still get on with people at the club, if something isn't done NOW, then there will be no club. Come on Phil, have the bollocks to be the leader of the protests, before it's too late. Someone give the bloke a call to discuss. Just my initial thoughts. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:31:18 Quote from: "DV" would anything like a stand out/sit in work Either dont go to the game, or dont leave.... Maybe all on the pitch afterwards for a sit down protest....storm the board room.....rather than just chants Also, what would happen to Wills loan if he suddendly died?! It would require a few people with big balls to organise a sit in during the game, generally starting off chants to that effect, shouting out at people, getting in place to try and recruit people who are about to leave at the end. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:33:16 Quote from: "RobertT" because it was a handfull of people wanting to keep it all on the QT. This time people don't give a shit and want it to be public knowledge. Come up with a simple plan such as: 1) March of several hundred (should just about manage that from everyone on here and a few recruits at the time) on the turnstiles about 5 mins before kick off (meaning you don't lose the drinkers and might get a few last minute additions). 2) 1 or 2 simple Board Out style chants, as you say without abuse 3) Congregate afterwards, pass on the word during the game even if you don't know the person next to you. Most will say piss off, some may join for a bit. Get the word out about all 3 now. Unfortunately I'm off sick today, so an appearance on TV could be my job, otherwise I'd be there is spades. this is the way i support!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rob put on a mask wig whatever! Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:35:44 Quote from: "DV" would anything like a stand out/sit in work Either dont go to the game, or dont leave.... Maybe all on the pitch afterwards for a sit down protest....storm the board room.....rather than just chants I think storming the directors box at Full time would be good. Stewards didnt seem too bothered on saturday, not sure if they have been payed, so it could actually be easier than normal. The just a sit in perhaps? As for the comment about Wills, dont even think about it. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: janaage on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:36:17 The average fan will not listen to Trust supporters at the moment, as unfortunately they see the Trust as a political party trying to "win power" which is why you need an independant person to come out of the woodwork and say "you know what, this board are doing everything in their power to play russian roulette with OUR club".
I hate to say that but from what I have heard from some (misguided) supporters I fear that we will not be able to convince them of our genuine intentions. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:38:10 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Quote from: "DV" would anything like a stand out/sit in work Either dont go to the game, or dont leave.... Maybe all on the pitch afterwards for a sit down protest....storm the board room.....rather than just chants I think storming the directors box at Full time would be good. Stewards didnt seem too bothered on saturday, not sure if they have been payed, so it could actually be easier than normal. The just a sit in perhaps? As for the comment about Wills, dont even think about it. That sounds like a plan to me, esp if we stormed in such numbers the stewards couldnt do much about it.....but again, sit in till what is achieved exactly? Although (being a pussy) I guess they'd get the police involved and it could turn nasty. Last thing we want is people getting arrested.... Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:40:27 What else can we do? Except to make sure they know they are no longer welcome?
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: DV on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:42:56 I dunno, but to be honest....I highly doubt any of them will even be there tonight, esp if they've seen the adver
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: yeo on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:43:39 Dv your balls are twice the size of your neck?
Why are they so big? Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:43:58 And to think we were worried about Cheltenham fans protesting :|
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:44:26 hydroseal?
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: skuaimages on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 12:57:40 fatbury said:
Gary is someone to look up to so I say it should be he - he is a good representative of the ordinary fan you do need a leader/spokesperson - is there a woman who could do the speaking? especially with the media there just have two or three main points to get over keep it very simple have them written down on lots of A4 or smaller sheets hand them out to as many people actively involved the main point to get over in my opinion is We knew the club has been in financial difficulties for a very long time but the latest statement clearly shows the actual current situation is far worse than we have been led to believe, and now it may be too late. The whole management team must take full responsibility. Being incapable of running a commercial enterprise they should resign. The horrendous problem is that such action would almost certainly result in winding up orders - whether someone rescues us will be in the lap of the gods - it is a very dark moment If the fans can sound on the ball, and show the faith maybe there is a chance. Good luck - I'll be with you all in spirit Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Luci on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:02:02 Whoever acts as speaker HAS to know the ins and outs thoroughly and be prepared to answer any questions based on pure fact and not speculation.
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:08:31 fred elliot,rob t,or paul d should be speaker imo
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:09:12 Quote from: "arriba" fred elliot,rob t,or paul d should be speaker imo Or Lady, she's got a face for TV. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: janaage on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:09:28 You are not going to win the "hearts and minds" of the run of the mill fan, by having another normal run of the mill fan spouting out what we've all been spouting out for the last x amount of months.
You need someone who the average fan will think "f*** me, if he's getting involved then this is serious". You need someone with a love of STFC to stand up and be counted. Someone non-political. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Luci on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:09:32 Just had this again.
Hi We are very keen to cover the current issues surrounding Swindon Town tonight. Please contact me with further details about protests etc. Thanks Chris Spittles ITV West 07788-440-710 Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: janaage on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:11:14 Quote from: "arriba" fred elliot,rob t,or paul d should be speaker imo I have nothing personal against these 3 fine STFC supporters but I am worried that if one of these three are chosen then you'll end up with all the normal anti-trust bollocks. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:13:24 but paul d and fred in particular are privvy to more info than the regular fan jan.
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: McLovin on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:14:03 Get Don Rogers involved...
Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:16:16 They won't be able to cover the amount of history that's gone on in the last few years without making the report last an hour.
Probably someone who follows the Trust's sentiments and states that the club is wrongly being held to ransom would probably suffice. Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Phil_S on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:18:06 It has to be the TRUST. They represent a thousand fans, & alot more agree with the fact that the current board need to be removed, even if they aren't pro fans consortium.
A few may be anti-fans consortium, but I assure you the majority are not & besides, this is about removing the ca**er in our club, not about putting anyone in particular in. (I've been told not to use the word cancer about the board) Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: janaage on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:19:39 Quote from: "arriba" but paul d and fred in particular are privvy to more info than the regular fan jan. I agree with that Arriba, but I'm concerned that without a real "Swindon face" i.e. ex-player, a Swindon fan who thinks all trust members are evil are not going to be convinced by a trust member talking about how the club is in danger. As that kind of supporter is going to lay some of the blame at the trusts feet. We need an ex-player who would be willing to talk of their disgust at the way the club is being run. I still think someone like Phil King would foot the bill, the man did well at the charity event, and only has Swindon's best interest at heart. No hidden agenda's there (not that I think there's a hidden agenda with the trust). Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:21:32 Thanks for the thoughts guys.
BUT until a mandate is given from the membership that we back this action it would be wrong to front it, as it would appear then to be Trust led. As a side issue, I have been signed off work for 5 weeks with epilepsy, I cannot be seen all over the TV and papers leading a charge into battle. Not the best career move Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 13:47:59 Quote from: "Fred Elliot" Thanks for the thoughts guys. BUT until a mandate is given from the membership that we back this action it would be wrong to front it, as it would appear then to be Trust led. As a side issue, I have been signed off work for 5 weeks with epilepsy, I cannot be seen all over the TV and papers leading a charge into battle. Not the best career move Probably best - the bleeping machine wouldn't be able to keep up :D Title: PROTESTS: Singing off the same hymn sheet Post by: Toni on Tuesday, October 9, 2007, 14:48:13 Quote from: "Sippo" Quote from: "DV" as far as I understand it about 50 people will end up outside the arkells afterwards, shouting and swearing making STFC fans look like complete dick heads infront of a TV crew and later on the news. Please tell me im wrong.... Thats what I'm scared it will look like, and we'll become a laughing stock.... Unfortunately we are already a laughing stock. Everyone is laughing at us so us protesting on tele ent going to make much of a difference. |