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We all know that, as fans, we disagree with each other all the time but the one thing that 99.99% of us do agree on is that Sturrock should be left alone to manage the team.

If the takeover by BEST is successful, we need to demonstrate to the new owners how much support Luggy has and how pissed off their paying customers would be if he was forced to leave because of meddling from other people.

Could the Trust organise a petition, to be signed before games? I'm sure they would get thousands of signatures. This could then be presented to Little if and when he took control.

Just an idea like...................................................

I reckon its 100 percent! :nod:

I don't even like the chap but he gets my 100% support as Manager of the club based on his record and pefrormance with us so far.  I don't see why BEST would give a damn what we though though because if it is their intention to remove him then it's part of a plan, in which case our opinion won't have been given much wieght anyway.  Tis a worrying state of affairs that we find ourselves having to blindly support the takeover just because we've been run into the ground.

Can I ask where the speculation is coming from that the new investors want to remove Luggy?

I have seen nothing anywhere to suggest this but then haven't read much over the weekend so apologies if I've missed something?

Surely the proof that Luggy is a good manager is there in recent results and wouldn't do them any favours removing him.

Well if BEST did take over and got rid of Sturrock that would be about the worst possible start for their regime ... fair enough if he was crap but you cant argue with his record can you!

I think the wording is probably slightly different to "removing him".  They would appear, from their public comments, to have a more European vision of the off field set-up.  Sturrock made clear mention to having to have a big chat with them if they did takeover to clarify his position - Almeida and Arrieta being brought in by BEST not him was mentioned in that interview.

Basically, if they plan to get their return by bringing a few players through by using Agents like they've stated, then they need them to play to get a sell on.  It's sort of how a club in Belgium was run, a company loaning the club money to buy the players they targetted, using the club as a shop window and then keeping the majority of any transfer fees.  The difference there was Belgium was used to help bring in non EU players from Africa.  There have been enough details given to suggest this is a posiibility, be we just don't know, and neither does Sturrock right now.  It could be wide of the mark and they'll happily let us carry on as normal (although if we are over budget again and leaking money fast they have to have something planned).

Cheers Rob, was thinking I'd missed some big news for a second there.

Luggy seems to have the team pretty united at the moment, great team spirit, demonstrated even more so by them not walking out when they hadn't been paid.

Has he not got a clause that only him can pick the team anyway should he stay?

If he does, and it is breached on purpose by BEST then I'd imagine 'all' that would happen is that Luggy would take legal action to be compensated for the remainder of his contrct, i.e. having the clause is no guarentee of him staying.

I know - there are lots of if's buts and maybes.....

If he still has the right to pick the team and choose the tactics then he will stay i reckon. As long as they don't interfere in the coaching and team selection side of things i don't think Sturrock will mind. There is the issue of players. But if Best Holdings wanted their own players in then why would they have given money to Sturrock to buy Paynter and JPM?

Did they give us the money though rich im not sure they did.If they did though and the takeover does not happen then thats another debt :?

Well surely we didn't have enough to pay for them on our own. It was around the time when the takeover was first made public (just after Jim Little joined) so i'd imagine they provided the funds. As for it being a debt, well it's probably already paid isn't it? At least i hope.

Thats what i mean though if it has been paid will the current board be left with a debt to veiga etc

I get you now. Yes that's a possibility  :?  :(

So.............................

The petition's a shit idea then?

No its not just dont know when your taking the piss or not :D

FWIW, I think it's a good idea. Don't know how much notice any new owners would take of it but as fans it's one option open to us to at least express our opinion. And yes, I'd have thought it's well within what the Trust should be doing.

Problem is that at the moment things are going well so Sturrock is flavour of the month.....the man himself has said we are well over budget, so once the dust has settled if a deal goes through then we'll have to have a fire sale.....this will probably mean the sale of anything of value in January, maybe a player or three out on loan prior to that.

    At the moment we have a decentish squad, but we can't afford their wages.....it wont take much for the fans to turn on Sturrock, with a few bad results.

   I've never known such a precarious position in 40+ years  of support.......

Come on Reg. I don't think anyone will turn on Sturrock after a few defeats.

  Never underestimate the fickleness of football fans.....take a season like 88/89, Macari had brought Duncan Shearer who had a slow start, a couple of goals by early December dropped to the bench a one win through October and into late Nov.  

 This was against a backdrop of rumours about all not being well off the field,  and Macari not being around at some matches....either scouting as some had it or sorting out his bookmaking business as others had it.

 By the end of Nov crowds had dropped to 5000 and we had dropped to 19th.....there were some who thought Macari should go as he'd lost the plot.  We managed to scrape a couple of wins v Walsall and Shrews both who went down...Shearer started to score, Alan Mac came in and started to score from midfield and we ended up in the Po's.

 I vividly recall having words with a few on the Shrivenham Road terrace who thought Macari should go.... :wanker:   he gave us some of the finest moments as Town fans.

fair to say that you were a :clap: in those days then?

  Maybe.....I just had faith in the fella, I'd been in the 1600 crowds of 83/84... dragged people along, when 3000 was a good crowd.....to watch us getting stuffed by Torquay and Hereford.   Macari resurrected our club, some people just don't think, rather they just react.....sometimes its justified in this circumstance it certainly wasn't.

What's all this about on this thread on the 3rd and 4th page?
http://forum.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1327&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=45

 Fuck nose...the standard on thisis at the moment isn't worth reading.....even Banbury, seems to be stuck in a slough of despond.

They are obviously on about someone else taking the over the club but no-one is saying who they are on about and it's confusing people.

kinda pointless rumour-mongering then. i know something - but i can't tell you what.

Do a little digging into a company called Betfair

and If you know something then fucking say instead of all this insinuating BULL SHIT!

All I fucking know is that that name was dropped into a conversation on Saturday, so dont have a fucking pop

Sorry Fred but I know thats a lie.

and how the fuck do you know that ??????

the first I heard of betfair was Saturday, other people obviously knew before.

I knew Saturday

Hmmmm I guess I'll have to take your word for it.

I still know the Trust inner circle doesnt relaase all information that his to its general membership and I think that sucks.Perhaps this is an arguement for another day though.