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I know lot's has been said about this but I have to put in my own thoughts.

Seeing todays result has made me feel amazing. Absolutely amazing. What a fabulous result. We have a manager who is superb, the best manager we have had for so very long. He is the best thing to happen to this club in ages and his superb ability, dignity and managerial experience is working wonders at this club that I love dearly.

BUT I cannot believe that his position...and therefore in my opinion the success of our club is in jeapordy because of a takeover bid by a bunch of muppets who want a large say in the picking of the team.

The football club should not be run that way, and if that is what is on the table then they need to leave us alone. Sturrock has to stay. Not only is he a fabulouse manager, but he is passionate about the club and has a vision. Somthing he is working towards and wants to see through at Swindon Town. WOW, I and I'm sure all of my fellow Swindon fans have wanted that so so much for many many years.

The man has to stay, he simply has to. So please Jim whateveryourname is and your powerhungry muppet takeover friends. Go away. Leave the club alone, and that goes for Willy Carson and his lot too. Bill Power seems the best option to me.

All I know is that...like every time something good happens to this club, it looks like its gonna fall away. But it cannot happen. We as fans need to make a stand. No more messing about. I'm sick of idiots running our club. BOTTOM LINE...STURROCK HAS TO STAY, and we should do whatever it takes to keep him here at this club.

We should get a group together, get the trust involved...not sure what we can do...but we have to do something.

ONE PAUL STURROCK. THERE'S ONLY ONE PAUL STURROCK......

I don't want these portugese idiots at the club because if they take over sturrock will be gone as they will want to sign their players and pick the team.

I want sturrock to stay and i would rather the portugese takeover fell through and sturrocks stays rather than them taking over and sturrock going.

I am hoping the takeover doesn't go ahead, i know we are in desperate need of cash but i don't think they are the right people to takeover the club.

The way Luggy was talking the takeover seems to be back on again (Monday or Tuesday).

It's a real git of a predicament.  If we aren't taken over the club implodes. If we are taken over we may lose the best manager we have had for quite some time.

It all so depressing. But nothing is happened yet. So I'm going to have a beer, watch the boxing and think of our 5-0 win!

if someone dont take over soon this club might no longer exist

how do we know these new prospective owners will want a say in picking the team? how do we know they'll be signing players and forcing them upon sturrock?

we don't.

we do know that they'd likely clear all existing debt and put the club back at a level standing in financial terms, which is more important for the long-term fduture of the club than whether or not paul sturrock remains...

i'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and let them try and improve the club. as i see it, the fact they've fallen out with mike diamandis and co is a positive sign! i'd prefer bill power to takeover but i really can't see it happening, so this is our next best option imo

sonic,its blatantly obvious there would be interference from others if little and co takeover.

I know what you're saying SY but nobody has done anything to dispel worries that they will want a say in picking the team. They are treating the fans badly in my opinion...Of course I have no absolute proof they'll want a say in the team, but my gut feeling tells me they will...if that is the case, it'll be a great great shame because Sturrock will go. Hopefully after today, they'll do whatever it takes to make him stay.

Ultimately you are correct though. The club has to survive first and foremost. I just hope that does not come at the expense of Mr Sturrock.

your enemy's enemy is not always your friend.

I wish I was a millionaire...I'd buy the club and tell 'em all to sod off and have a banana.

unfortuantely I am worth significantly less than a pube on Roman Abramovich's left testicle

likewise, sturrock is undoubtedly the best manager we've had for a very long time but nevertheless survival of the club is the most important factor. we simply won't survive under the incumbent board, so any change would be welcome to me.

you may very well be right and the new board want a say in picking the team but i don't think predicting what they may or may not want to do is wise at this stage.

i don't see how it's "blatantly obvious" arriba?

the x benfica bloke,brevett,
not needed imo. or requested by the manager

why should the manager be requesting who is on the board and who isn't?

he shouldn't.but the two i've mentioned wont just sit there and do nothing would they?
too many cooks and all that....

Not to mention Sturrock himself has the same concerns, as was obvious from his interviews.

I agree stfcben. I am as much in love with Sturrock as is possible without being gay. I love the man. He is the best thing to happen to this club in many a year. I hope against hope that if/when the takeover happens he is allowed to run all team affairs with no meddling from the powers that be. I would go on but i'm pissed to fuck and getting a bit mushy. Maybe I am gay?

Arrieta, Almeida

It is but we don't know that either.[/b]

If the portugese people take over just watch them sign their own  players and get veiga, brevett to pick the team.

Like pauld says above you only have to look at the Arrieta and Almeida signings.

I'd much rather the takeover fell through and someone else came in and saved us and keep sturrock as i do feel we have an outside chance of the playoffs this season.

I think you are.

As long as we are financially sound at the mo I dont care who owns the team.

Fair enough Gazza, obviously it would be great to have no more financial problems but are you not worried about the managerial situation?

I don't know about you but i wouldn't want a team full of portugese/brazilian players that would possibly be here to be sold on and us being used as a type of feeder club.

If Sturrock goes that'll be it for me for a while I'll be playing football on Saturdays not watching as it'll mean the club has either gone bust or is being ran by a new bunch who don't care about the club.

I'd rather play football at a reasonable non-league standard and enjoy it than sit and watch something I don't agree with, I'm sure some people would call me a plastic fan but after 15 years of being a season ticket holder I've almost had enough.

I wish the board would just talk to the Trust and Bill Power and give the club back to the community as I don't trust the current board and am extremely sceptical about BEST holdings.

Agreed.

Good post Glos.

If sturrock went i certainly wouldn't be very interested, i don't think these new guys little, brevett etc give a toss about the fans or the club, they probably want to bring over loads of players and sell them on and they may not be interested in anything else, they cannot be as bad as the current board but i don't think they will be much better.

If they turned us into nothing more than a feeder club or just want to use us then i can see many fans not going to games for the near future.

I have a bad feeling about best holdings for some reason, i could be worrying for nothing but who knows, obviously bill power is the best man to take over but that will never happen so we may as well forget that one.

Sturrock is a top man and a great manager and i really think we can get into the championship within 2-3 years if he stays and i want him to stay as he is without a doubt the best manager since hoddle.

Let's see what happens.

??? It's never been run by the community, it's usually been run (Badly) by dodgy businessmen or genarous benefactors.

I don't support what's going on off the field, but I'm not going to turn my back on the Club I support.

Heard a rumour that BEST want to out us into admin then buy us back for £1, which would unltimately mean loss of 15 points.

Also from Luggys interviews doesnt sound like he will be staying if they take over. Remember Little said football begins and  ends with Jose veiga,Luggy will not tolerate that

Yeah Bart.........................

If thats true then that shows that best holdings are cheapskates who dont give a dam about the club and that would also mean that they are not bothered about a points deduction.

If we get a points deduction or sturrock goes i can see there being a lot of people starting riots behind the arkells.

I think they may get rid of sturrock anyway even if he doesn't walk as it is obvious that they want Jose Veiga to take over as the main man.

Fair enough Hertbab, but I'm no longer going to pay £x hundred blindly into an enterprise I don't agree with, the last few months have shown there are more important things in life.
A football club should be the centre of a Towns community instead it does everything possible to upset the locals through bad PR, poor finances and general bad management....The current board have never achieved good relations with the local community or fans to that matter and I can't see the proposed new owners understanding the ethos of football either. I will listen to what they have to say, but if I don't agree with their plans for the first time I will vote with my feet and be a 'stay away' without feeling any guilt. The financial fiasco is getting boring and is starting to impede on the matchday experience.

May just be a rumour herthab, but thats hat i was told by someone today. They will put us in admin to clear the debts then buy us back

They may have a problem with that one as if we went into admin we would be kicked out of the league due to the 3 strikes and your out rule.

Also no doubt that Veiga would be picking the team as i said above i think best holdings want him in charge, he would pick the team over sturrock obviously the first time that happens sturrock is gone.

All that talk of paying the CVA and other debts etc is total bullshit then if this is true, waste of space, i dont want those cunts taking over and fucking this club up, if this is their plan then they have already been telling lie's to the fan's, don't you think we have been lied to enough by the idiots currently in charge.

Is that the same arrieta and almeida who haven't played in well over a month. I don't really see much of a problem with that.

Is that the same month that Little/Vieriaiara/Brevett haven't stepped foot in the club?

Indeed Chris, They probably haven't played because as you say they have not been around for a month, if they were in control then i reckon they would be playing.

Someone called Daxter on thisis reckons there will be an announcement on wednesday saying that the deal is dead, probably more bullshit but who knows what's going on.

You just made that rule up.

It doesn't exist as no club has gone that (woefully) far before.

Read somewhere that Brevitt was back today, anyone know if this was the case?

Yes Brevett was there today, talktalk i'm sure the league brought in a rule stating if a club entered administration 3 times then they would be kicked out of the league.

<shrug>

I'm sure that they haven't.

But I will leave it to PD to clarify.

I'm doing some digging to try and find out if there is such a rule, i may be wrong but i'm sure the rule exsists, pauld would be the main man to ask though as you say.

Paul Sturrock is the best manager we've had in fucking ages, probably since I've been going.

Anyone would have to be totally fucking retarded to decide to fuck him off, or think he wasnt capable of making the footballing decisions.

Hearts were doing well under Burley, changed him for a yes man and fucked up.

Chelsea are going down the same path with yes man Grant.

dont you lot even fucking dare. Sturrock goes, I go

I totally agree DV, that is basically what i have been saying.

We will end up going down the pan like Hearts and Chelsea if sturrock goes.

What he said.

Good to see people agree! Sturrock going or getting a points deduction or something else major happening will prompt many people behind the arkells.

the commentary made mention of it, yeah. apparently little was at swansea on tuesday as well.

if sturrock walked because of this takeover, i don't think anyone would turn up to the subsequent home game.  but i think they'd have to be seriously stupid to risk losing a man like sturrock, so i'm going to cling to that hope and get slated by you all for being naive/ignorant/a board supporter.

There is no such rule - there is a sanction against directors presiding over companies going into admin introduced with the fit and proper persons test but even that isn't retrospective (if it was Willie would be debarred from being a club director under FPPT)

What I want to know is if it's like keeping the match ball when you get a hat-trick - do we get to keep the judge's wig?

I know the Bill Power lovers will disagree but Best is the only option we have at the moment so for the sake of this club i hope they takeover very soon.

I deally it would of been power but its not to be so i suppose we have to get on with it.

Power did say he has heard good things about little and veiga though so maybe there is some hope.

Completely agree.
Obviously I hope Sturrock is left to manage the football side of things but right now off the field things look bleak, realistically we urgently need Little and Veiga to close the deal.

Whilst we're getting a bit ahead of ourselves here, I'd go to the following game to make my outrage heard. After that I'm not sure I could bring myself to

I am a fans consortium supporter through & through. I do however think you have a point.
The way I see it, if the CVA is not paid within the next few weeks then one or more of the creditors will slap in a winding up order.
If that happens there will be no club to support.
So, BEST holdings may well be the only option, unless any other investor including the fans consortium can step in, go through due dilligence, takeover & pay the CVA.  Given the track record of the club responding to solicitors etc, their is no longer the time. (Unless of course SSW sacks Diamandis, then it could be done). However THEY (BEST) may decide to pull out of the deal themselves, in which case it will be extremely worrying & we will have to hope against hope that some common sense breaks out in SN1 (Well marlborough actually)
I am still extrtemely sceptical about BEST holdings, but am encouraged by what Bill P said about them.
I still leve in hope that the fans consortium can prevail,

One other, point. How many regular fans have this board managed to alienate to date ? I  ask the question because given the recent performances, & the fact that we are in a higher leauge, I would expect our crowds to be at least as many as last years average. We seem to have lost over 1,000 I would reckon. (Look at Brissle Wovers average gate which was less than us last yr, but is higher this yr). If my suspicion is true then Diamandis & Co are costing STFC, approx £450,000 over a season. PLUS associatted mecrchandising, sponsorship etc etc