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Title: Bill's back! Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:03:15 Article in today's Swindon Adver:
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/display.var.1733768.0.swindon_town_stop_gambling_with_club_says_power.php I don't think we can read too much in to this. But it's good to hear from the man again - even only if it puts pressure on the others to conclude a deal. Title: Bill's back! Post by: dell boy on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:07:43 Obviously didn't get his money then.
Diamandis would prefer to take this club down before he deals with Bill Power, and it looks like he is doing exactly that. I will be with the protestors on Saturday .... enough is enough. Title: Bill's back! Post by: yeo on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:10:02 are there protesters on saturday?
what are they protesting about? Title: Bill's back! Post by: herthab on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:13:14 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" are there protesters on saturday? what are they protesting about? That they're unhappy with the general situation. Title: Bill's back! Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:16:56 I don't think there will be protests on Saturday. (You might hear a few songs from the stands encouraging Diamandis to self-copulate, however.)
Title: Bill's back! Post by: STFC Bart on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:33:53 Im amazed there have been no anti-Diamandis chants to date to be honest
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:37:05 Most of the fans just aren't interested in the politics at the club - I think we've all learned that during the last 12 months. I doubt that any more than half of our fans even know who Diamandis is.
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Frasier3 on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:40:47 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" are there protesters on saturday? what are they protesting about? Perhaps its the disgraceful way investors want to know about hidden debts YR? :roll: Seriously though despite concerns about numbers, specific aims etc I like a few others feel that a protest is worthy of serious consideration. Has it really got to the stage where fans can do no more than talk on message boards? Are we really so powerless or battle weary, or should we only protest if we are guaranteed a positive outcome and large numbers? Title: Bill's back! Post by: red macca on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:44:37 Get it sorted then frasier
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Luci on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:46:38 Thats the problem. No-one is taking any responsibility for organising it.
Its easy to bang on about it but realistically is everyone just expecting someone else to do it? Title: Bill's back! Post by: red macca on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:50:23 The problem is Lady that we tried this last year and nothing happened not enough numbers turned up.
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Luci on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:52:40 I know thats the problem but all over again ppl are going on about protests but who are they realistically expecting to get it organised to get the kind of numbers that would make any effect?
Title: Bill's back! Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:55:44 Quote from: "STFCLady" Thats the problem. No-one is taking any responsibility for organising it. Its easy to bang on about it but realistically is everyone just expecting someone else to do it? I was there at every protest last year and remain firmly against the current regime and Mikey D but I think even if they were organised we would fail to attract the numbers neccesary to make any kind of impact. It's not a case of not being interested in the politics its just a feeling at the moment that if we went behind Arkells we would be heckled at by our supporters, if we started chants against the board and Mikey D chances are people would argue with us saying we are causing a negative atmosphere in the ground. I don't know what the solution is and am still trying to think of ideas that could help but just cant help feeling at the moment protests would have no bearing on the outcome of this takeover. Title: Bill's back! Post by: yeo on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:57:47 Well you can count me out of your extrememy vague protesting about stuff in general.
Title: Bill's back! Post by: herthab on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 08:58:02 It's not apathy.
I just can't be bothered.......................... :D Title: Bill's back! Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 09:09:23 You would need a definitive turning point in order to trigger a protest. And in any case, protests are rarely organised. They happen spontaneously.
What happened last season was 50 or so internet message board posters agreed enough was enough, and pledged to turn up at the back of the Arkells Stand to protest after games. And that's exactly what happened. The 50 message boards posters turned up...and no one else. When/if the creditors threaten to wind the club up, or if Sturrock hints that he has reason to believe Diamandis' actions are threatening the takeover and therefore the future of the club...then you'll get your protest. And you won't need to resort to drumming up support on an internet message boards either. Title: Bill's back! Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 09:15:28 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Well you can count me out of your extrememy vague protesting about stuff in general. http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/mar2006/down_with_this_sort_of_thing.jpg Title: Bill's back! Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 09:28:49 Without some endorsment from a recognised body of fans, protests of the required magnitude are never going to materialise.
I thought the attempts with the leaflets to get something proper organised didn't make a blind bit of difference, and as such, was probably the most organised thing outside of the forums that could have been done. Also the leaflets 'educating' people drummed up interest, but didn't boost the numbers. The blimp gave us a bit of exposure for the day, but was outrageous enough to be laughed off. Yeovil Red doesn't want to protest because he almost got in a fight that time :D Title: Bill's back! Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 09:34:24 Quote from: "Colin Todd" Quote from: "Yeovil Red" Well you can count me out of your extrememy vague protesting about stuff in general. http://www.indymedia.ie/attachments/mar2006/down_with_this_sort_of_thing.jpg Arse, someone beat me to it on the other thread :cry: Title: Bill's back! Post by: Frasier3 on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 09:50:28 Quote from: "red macca" Get it sorted then frasier I'll gladly help get it sorted once/if there is a concensus that it is worth doing. As I said a protest has to be given "consideration". This is not the same a saying we should have a protest. Did you miss that bit in my post or do just like trying to be a smart arse. :wink: Title: Bill's back! Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 10:05:44 I know for a fact all of the people saying ad-hoc protests (over god knows what) won't work have given it careful consideration. You could say in this respect that there isn't a consensus and probably won't be until something serious comes to light (as Ardiles has said).
People moaning that nothing gets done and then shy away and say someone else should sort it, whilst they give it their consideration do my nut in. If you don't want to protest then you don't bother. If you do, then you need to get off your arse and go for it. These very message boards instigated a lot last season. In fact the heavily publicised orange revolution was borned from here. Use your imagination. Title: Bill's back! Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 10:06:55 *born :D
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 10:09:21 I am glad now that I didn't take my orange Fans Power sticker out the back of my car now :D
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 10:12:48 Quote from: "Colin Todd" *born :D *borne My flid fingers hit an extra key Title: Bill's back! Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 10:17:57 Quote from: "Si Pie" Quote from: "Colin Todd" *born :D *borne My flid fingers hit an extra key d'oh Title: Bill's back! Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:00:40 Update on the court case from the adver...
Quote Power gets court date By Nick Mashiter Comment Bill Power has thrown his support behind the Portuguese consortium as their protracted takeover of Swindon Town continues and he prepares to take the club's existing board to court. He and Town will meet on November 9 in the High Couirt in London to settle their dispute over the £1.2 million Power claims he loaned them last May. The money, which Town insist was a share option, is believed to be one of the issues delaying Best Holding's £6 million takeover at the County Ground. The case adds to the club's woes after it was revealed the players were only due to be paid for September yesterday. It ended a bad midweek after the club were beaten 2-1 at Swansea on Tuesday. "If there is a sticking point I know who it will be coming from and it will not be from the new owners," said Power. "I have been reasonable every single step of the way and given them a million opportunities, which they have refused. We have to resolve it amicably, which will now be done in court, but I don't know why we couldn't do it man to man." Power has been using his contacts at his former club to find out more information about chairman designate Jim Little and future general manager Jose Veiga. "I know an ex-QPR player, who is an agent and played in Portugal, who knows them and he said they are absolutely bone fide," he said. "If they say they have £2 million, six or even 20 then they have it." Little said the consortium was committed. "I am confident we will be able to say something soon about the final completion because both parties really want it done," he said. 10:17am today Title: Bill's back! Post by: Sippo on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:10:25 make or break time then...
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Phil_S on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:16:52 What ever the outcome, I reckon Bill P should be given the freedom of Swindon. Legend
Title: Bill's back! Post by: genf_stfc on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:18:01 good to see.
also hope the reporter has learnt not to shave his arse with blunt razors, given his name. Title: Bill's back! Post by: dell boy on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:18:11 If we haven't paid the CVA and creditors, the players are being paid late, Bill Power is taking the club to court, there has been no takeover confirmed, then why haven't the football league taken action against Swindon. I thought the timescale was the end of September.
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:28:07 If Bill wins his day in court who is culpable for the £1.2 million of debt and presumably if no funds are available can the club be wound up as a result?
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:29:13 This basically confirms what we all hoped. Bill and Phil are still here and i hope the board are aware of that.
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Phil_S on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:31:21 Well the board denied they existed all last season !
Title: Bill's back! Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:33:02 Quote from: "Dazzza" If Bill wins his day in court who is culpable for the £1.2 million of debt and presumably if no funds are available can the club be wound up as a result? Dunno, can Bill say he'd accept the club in place or repayment? Title: Bill's back! Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 12:54:52 Quote from: "Kinky Tom" Quote from: "Dazzza" If Bill wins his day in court who is culpable for the £1.2 million of debt and presumably if no funds are available can the club be wound up as a result? Dunno, can Bill say he'd accept the club in place or repayment? Would you accept a repayment plan from this board, when you consider how prompt they were with payment of the CVA installments ? Title: Bill's back! Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 13:00:36 Whilst Bill's Back is very nice I think I prefer his Front and Left side. In fact my order of preference would probably go:
1)Bill's Left Side 2)Bill's Front 3)Bill's Back 4)Bill's Right Side Title: Bill's back! Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 13:05:45 Quote from: "Summerof69" Quote from: "Kinky Tom" Quote from: "Dazzza" If Bill wins his day in court who is culpable for the £1.2 million of debt and presumably if no funds are available can the club be wound up as a result? Dunno, can Bill say he'd accept the club in place or repayment? Would you accept a repayment plan from this board, when you consider how prompt they were with payment of the CVA installments ? I mean in place of repayment... Oops. Title: Bill's back! Post by: Power to people on Thursday, October 4, 2007, 13:12:13 £1.2m plus costs so this could end up as a lot more than £1.2m obviously, I would imagine as they haven't got £1.2m plus costs to give back then he can say he will accept the FC as payment and if they refuse then a winding up order will be issued as a way to get payment.
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