Title: martin jol Post by: oxford_fan on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 18:06:21 its completely ridiculous that he's under pressure at spurs, a perfect example of the short-termism of top teams nowadays. he's a more than competent manager who has transformed spurs from a mid table team to one who are fuming if they're not 4th in his time there. give him one more season and his squad will be pretty damn solid.
Title: martin jol Post by: red macca on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 18:08:51 No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion.
Title: martin jol Post by: yeo on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 18:09:17 He has done a good job he also spent alot of money,he does make some odd decisions though.I like him though and the way hes being treated by the Totenham board is disgusting.
Title: martin jol Post by: Red81 on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 18:10:09 He looks like he should be in the sopranos
Title: martin jol Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 18:13:21 He's only spent 40 million. And yet he is doing a shit job. Nothing strange about him being under pressure at all.
Title: martin jol Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 19:08:15 they have a squad full of youngish players and he has put the money into these, who possibly may have a good future - if they do Spurs will do well if not, well its obvious. But football is not a long term thing usually for managers a few bad results and cheerio. A new manager would then break up the team, thus equal wasted money on such players
I don;t think Jol is a very good manager. Title: martin jol Post by: Red81 on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 19:19:05 He has the best record of any spurs manager in the past 20 years based on percentage of matches won. Also Spurs have finshed 5th the last two seasons.
Title: martin jol Post by: lebowski on Thursday, September 27, 2007, 19:58:23 Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. martin jol is not in charge of transfers. the director of football (damien commolli) is, both incoming and outgoing. a number of these signings (assou-ekotto, rocha, zokora, for starters) are not rated by jol at all, yet he has no option than to play them. Title: martin jol Post by: red macca on Friday, September 28, 2007, 08:20:17 So your saying he was probably not allowed to sign a defender then, why does he want to stay so bad if he cant sign a defence
Title: martin jol Post by: stfctownenda on Friday, September 28, 2007, 08:44:22 Quote from: "red macca" So your saying he was probably not allowed to sign a defender then, why does he want to stay so bad if he cant sign a defence He did sign that Kaboul from a French Club in the summer. Hes supposed to be the best young french defensive prospect. Only saw him in there European game and he looked alright. FWIW I think Jol is a good manager with a good squad and I think they will come good this season if he is given the time. Title: martin jol Post by: Barry Scott on Friday, September 28, 2007, 09:32:04 I don't thin he has to worry, the Machine that is Chelsea is under real pressure and the wheels may well have come off their title chances with Mourinho gone.
I think he'll get top 4 at the expense of Chelsea... That'd be funny. Title: martin jol Post by: Run_the_bath on Monday, October 1, 2007, 22:41:18 Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? Title: martin jol Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 06:11:21 Quote from: "Run_the_bath" Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? i had faith that someone else would have pointed that out Title: martin jol Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 06:13:13 Quote from: "Run_the_bath" Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? yes, but bale is shite Title: martin jol Post by: Bennett on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 06:13:42 Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "Run_the_bath" Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? yes, but bale is shite well not really Title: martin jol Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 06:22:42 Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "Run_the_bath" Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? yes, but bale is shite haha, do you know anything about gareth bale? Title: martin jol Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 07:31:06 Quote from: "bennett" Quote from: "Run_the_bath" Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? i had faith that someone else would have pointed that out Title: martin jol Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 07:36:50 but is a left back by trade.
Title: martin jol Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 07:39:23 Not no more he isn't :D
Jol is shit he was lucky last night but they were 4-2 down at home and he replaces berbatrov with darren bent :? Title: martin jol Post by: Chubbs on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 07:49:39 im in no mood to argue.....
he's a left back by trade...he was bought by spurs as a left back. jol is playing him as a winger. Title: martin jol Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 10:58:36 Quote from: "Chubbs" Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "Run_the_bath" Quote from: "red macca" No it is not. He is a manager who has no defensive capabilities at all.The attacking options he had last year would have been good enough for this season band they were desperate for defensive options.Instead he spends £40m and not a penny of that on defenders, he deserves all the criticism he gets in my opinion. correct me if im wrong but arent younes kaboul and gareth bale defenders? yes, but bale is shite haha, do you know anything about gareth bale? yes, he is shite Title: martin jol Post by: red macca on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 11:02:01 Quote from: "Chubbs" im in no mood to argue..... Argue you polish bitch :D . I understand what your saying but i shall rephrase he should have bought some quality centre backs.Instead of 16.5m on a striker he dont need he could of got some very decent centre halfs for that price.he's a left back by trade...he was bought by spurs as a left back. jol is playing him as a winger. Title: martin jol Post by: pumbaa on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 12:46:34 He has two decent centre backs - King and Dawson - who were both injured at the start of the season. Not world class admittedly, but good enough for the top 5 of the premiership last two seasons. He bought a good prospect (allegedly) in Kaboul.
And Bale is a left back, but is playing LW as Jol couldn't or wouldn't buy a specialist left winger...and was top scorer before last night! Title: martin jol Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Tuesday, October 2, 2007, 16:07:06 Quote from: "red macca" Not no more he isn't :D Don't you think Wenger is good? If you look at there achievements with the resources they've had over the time they've both been at their current clubs Jol's done way better no question.Jol is shit he was lucky last night but they were 4-2 down at home and he replaces berbatrov with darren bent :? |