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Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, 21:04:08
Does anyone else find it ominous that Luggy makes no mention of the takeover in his Tuesday update. In all of his latest statements he has harped on about meeting the new people but today no mention at all :(


Title: Re: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, 21:08:49
Quote from: "lambourn red"
Does anyone else find it ominous that Luggy makes no mention of the takeover in his Tuesday update. In all of his latest statements he has harped on about meeting the new people but today no mention at all :(


  I don't regard it as ominous, insofar as the Portugeezers and Little/Brevett's efforts, have done nothing to suggest the club would be passing into safe hands....in fact quite the reverse.

  Mmmmm yak cheese.

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Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, 21:12:28
If the takeover does not go through we are back to square one (and probably worse off than before).


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, 21:20:37
Exactly, the new consortium may not be evrything we had hoped for but at least the short term future of the club would be secured, if this takeover fails the club is in very precarious position and we still have MD calling the shots.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, 21:22:30
Quote from: "Si Pie"
If the takeover does not go through we are back to square one (and probably worse off than before).


 If we're back to square one, a long diagonal Jerel hoof should easily take us to square 8.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, September 25, 2007, 22:04:43
It's a good thing he hasn't talked about the takeover. It at least suggests he is not thinking of leaving just yet.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Crozzer on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 00:47:34
At least he didn't say he was ticked off.  

When he says the word "revenue" it always sounds like a lot of money.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 07:38:00
my sauces tell me the takeover has stalled over the CVA payment - they expect the old board to pay it .. the old board expect the new consortium to pay it .. Mikey D has fallen out with them over it - toys out of the pram .. Has to be wondered if this can be rectified .. where this leaves the club and the CVA payment god only knows ...

 :wall:

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I havent read any other threads yet


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 07:40:46
Quote from: "fatbury"
my sauces tell me the takeover has stalled over the CVA payment - they expect the old board to pay it .. the old board expect the new consortium to pay it .. Mikey D has fallen out with them over it - toys out of the pram .. Has to be wondered if this can be rectified .. where this leaves the club and the CVA payment god only knows ...

 :wall:

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere but I havent read any other threads yet


I cant see how this is the truth, in every interview little has done he has stated the new consortium will pay the CVA and I believe Paul Davis said that Little had said the same in their meeting with the trust so....


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 07:49:04
It has been covered Fatters, but I still fail to see how it can be because of the CVA. It was always on the agenda for whoever took over to pay as it was surely the straw that broke the camels (old boards) back and forced them into selling into the first place. Jim Little told the trust all debts would be cleared. He surely wouldn't backtrack on that? Then again he said a new stadium was not a priority, but it seems it is.

I could sort of understand the spanner being paying off Bill Powers money if the investors were told the writ was issued against the holding company but not the club. In fact it is against both. Either way the club seemed confident of defending the claim so what is the problem?

It's all speculation anyway, could be they are arguing about anything, or indeed nothing I suppose.

Reg, that origins of 'back to square 1' are uncertain with theories that it originates varying from football to snakes and ladders. Either way Jerels long diagonal hoof would just as likely take us to row Z.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 07:55:41
i suppose the question that needs to be asked at this point is if bill power is still interested in taking over?

oh, to add to batch's list of "little porkies", he also said early on that there were no agents involved in the takeover, yet jose veiga is (or was) an agent of quite some profile and has to be considered part of the takeover.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 08:25:29
or there could be no problem what so ever.... no one knows but the fact Sturrock wont talk about the takeover and apparently the new owners have not been seen for 2 weeks now makes you think....


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 08:52:49
Somethings obviously stalling the takeover, be it the cva or not. End of the day, us fans need a decision sooner rather later. Be it bad news or good news.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Phil_S on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 10:07:00
The last I heard was that Mike Wilkes said on a forum that the fans consortium was still in place. (We aren't going anywhere).
This was about 3 weeks ago.
The simple thing to do would be to sell to the fans consortium who WOULD pay the CVA. Trouble is that Diamandis hates the fans so much that he will see the club go under rather than sell to us fans. (He said as much in December).
Regarding the stumbling block, if I recall, the Amigo's consortium asked about Bill P's writ & were told that it was no problem & that "Mikey D was dealing with it".
Andronique is also increasingly looking a bigger idiot too. The creditors voted for a meeting, & he unilaterally cancelled iut because the CVA was going to be paid in weeks. My worry is not so much that the deal goes tits up, but that the fans consortium are not given the chance/ time to step in & save the club. particularly given Diamandis's stance.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 10:10:47
I wouldn't read too much into Sturrock's refusal to talk about it - fact is, he's probably even more fed up with all the "will they won't they" speculation than the fans and has just decided to focus on what he can influence, the team.

Oh and in answer to lebowski I'd echo Phil's comments - the Fans' Consortium has not gone away and is still ready to pitch in if needed.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 10:19:59
That assumes that the current owners and GM are not doing the same to the Jim Little Consortium as they did to the Fans Consortium.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 10:34:50
Quote from: "Si Pie"
That assumes that the current owners and GM are not doing the same to the Jim Little Consortium as they did to the Fans Consortium.

Doubt it, the current board actually acknowledge that Jim Littles consortium exist.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 11:00:42
Yes, that makes it highly improbable.

The point stands - we don't know who is playing who here


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: RedRedRobin on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:23:12
Yes, but the Big Question is pauld,  is Bill Power still prepared to pitch in with the Fans' Consortium?


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:25:35
I think the bigger question is:

Is Mike Diamandis prepared to let anyone have the club?


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:34:32
Quote from: "RedRedRobin"
Yes, but the Big Question is pauld,  is Bill Power still prepared to pitch in with the Fans' Consortium?

Yes. How many times would you like me to answer this?  :D


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:43:27
Quote from: "pauld"
Quote from: "RedRedRobin"
Yes, but the Big Question is pauld,  is Bill Power still prepared to pitch in with the Fans' Consortium?

Yes. How many times would you like me to answer this?  :D


42 please.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:44:28
Is that 42 in total or 42 more times?


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Luci on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:49:51
I'm sure the 42 in total mark could have been passed already!


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: lebowski on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:50:21
on the subject of Bill Power, anyone know how his rehabilitation is coming along?


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 12:59:51
Quote from: "lebowski"
on the subject of Bill Power, anyone know how his rehabilitation is coming along?


checked out of rehab last week and still clean last I heard


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 13:30:02
nah, he's back on the crack already - bought some off me last night.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 13:41:19
You're such a pusher John.

p.s. can I have some crack please?


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 14:09:25
Quote from: "Batch"
Quote from: "pauld"
Quote from: "RedRedRobin"
Yes, but the Big Question is pauld,  is Bill Power still prepared to pitch in with the Fans' Consortium?

Yes. How many times would you like me to answer this?  :D


42 please.

Kind of walked right into that didn't I?  :D


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: RedRedRobin on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 15:35:42
So did I with you Paul!
I hadn't seen any mention of Bill Power in this regard  recently and wondered if he was still as keen to go ahead if the chance presented itself. Maybe I haven't kept up to date on this but as we all know things can turn around quite quickly and some time has now passed since the Amigos appeared on the scene.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 15:44:38
Quote from: "Si Pie"
You're such a pusher John.

p.s. can I have some crack please?


why not. usual place and time?


Title: Re: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 16:55:33
Quote from: "lambourn red"
Does anyone else find it ominous that Luggy makes no mention of the takeover in his Tuesday update.


In a word, no.

Chill.


Title: No mention of Takeover from Luggy
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, September 26, 2007, 17:01:17
Quote from: "jayohaitchenn"
Quote from: "Si Pie"
You're such a pusher John.

p.s. can I have some crack please?


why not. usual place and time?


sweet