Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: red macca on Friday, September 14, 2007, 14:03:56 Could someone explain the main differences between these two supporters groups Please.
Also is their any main reason why these to groups could not join forces together making it one massive organization Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Luci on Friday, September 14, 2007, 14:06:55 Is the Supporters club not in conjuction with STFC? Whereas the Trust is independent of the club?
Just a guess though. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Colin Todd on Friday, September 14, 2007, 14:07:42 The trust is political and try to infulence the direction of the club
The supporters club...................errrrrrr................ you get discount on SAS buses?? Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: pauld on Friday, September 14, 2007, 14:48:34 The Trust is explicitly about supporters actively engaging with the club, with the ultimate aim of a directly elected supporter on the board and giving supporters an active independent voice. We also aim to actively engage with the local community/council in order to promote better links between the club/supporters/local council. Both of those aims have been seen by some as being too "political" to fall within the remit of a traditional Supporters' Club which is more about fundraising and taking a very straight non-critical line come what may. Which doesn't mean the two organisations' aims are in conflict in anyway, many people are members of both (like me for example). They are complementary organisations fulfilling two different roles.
[EDIT: with apologies to the SC if anyone feels I've misdefined their role] Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Friday, September 14, 2007, 14:56:56 i think what pauld is saying the trust is ace, supporters club is cuntish.
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: WorcesterRed on Friday, September 14, 2007, 14:57:15 Quote from: "pauld" The Trust is explicitly about supporters actively engaging with the club, with the ultimate aim of a directly elected supporter on the board and giving supporters an active independent voice. We also aim to actively engage with the local community/council in order to promote better links between the club/supporters/local council. Both of those aims have been seen by some as being too "political" to fall within the remit of a traditional Supporters' Club which is more about fundraising and taking a very straight non-critical line come what may. Which doesn't mean the two organisations' aims are in conflict in anyway, many people are members of both (like me for example). They are complementary organisations fulfilling two different roles. [EDIT: with apologies to the SC if anyone feels I've misdefined their role] I'm confused....which side are the 20 busybodies on? Or is it 10 apiece? 8) Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, September 14, 2007, 15:16:36 The job of the supporters club is to say exactly what the club want to hear. Get the vegetables to the game and home again without anyone pissing themselves. :twisted:
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: pauld on Friday, September 14, 2007, 15:29:08 Quote from: "mexico red" i think what pauld is saying the trust is ace, supporters club is cuntish. No, I'm saying they're two different organisations that perform two different roles. And each performs their own role very well. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Friday, September 14, 2007, 15:41:21 oh come on paul, we have all heard you say how much you wanted to rape and murder all the board of the supporters club.
id love to have a go on that young nigel, mmmm tickly tache. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: pauld on Friday, September 14, 2007, 15:43:18 <Sigh> Hope the original answer provided some clarity macca.
I've just thought of one other difference actually - AFAIK, the SC don't have any weeping homosexuals on their committee, whereas we have mex :D Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: redbullzeye on Friday, September 14, 2007, 15:53:06 Didn't know mex was a homo :shock: Supporting Hampshire's bad enough
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: red macca on Friday, September 14, 2007, 17:42:09 Thanks paul and a special thanks to mex :D
Title: Re: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 14, 2007, 17:45:49 Quote from: "red macca" Could someone explain the main differences between these two supporters groups Please. Also is their any main reason why these to groups could not join forces together making it one massive organization The Supporters Club has been around since the year dot.....in the past its main purpose was to fund raise.....eg the Town End was built with funds raised by the SC. In return, the club always made "facilities" available for the SC, so there used to be a clubhouse in the Car park near the CGH, until the Arkells was built in 71/72, when the SC got new sooper dooper facilities inside. This was, if you like, a traditional situation between the bosses and the workers....the sort of benevolence which saw companies in Swindon provide social facilities for its workers. At the CG this situation was still intact into the mid 80's, when the SC could use the Rendezvous Club in the Arkells to host a do for fans and players, with no corporatism or faux corporatism in sight. When at this time, the Articles of Association were changed to try and get more money into the club...the Powers that be wasted little time in lobbing the SC out, so that the available space could used by the prawn sandwich brigade. Many stalwarts saw the writing on the wall and baled out of supporting at this time. This trend towards the unfettering of capitalism in football, meanwhile was leading to the establishment of the fanzine movement, as a counter point to the egotists and chancers who were starting to infect the game...this essentially underground movement was calling for greater consideration of fans involvement in their clubs, over a wide range of issues. It eventiually led to the Government sponsored initiative, Supporters Direct, which was set up to encourage the formation of Trusts, so that fans views could be heard...and in some cases take on the running of lower league community clubs. There is no reason why these two organisations can't co-operate, other than the fact their raison d'etres are different. Title: Re: Trust/Supporters club Post by: red macca on Friday, September 14, 2007, 17:55:27 Quote from: Reg Smeeton Quote from: "red macca" Could someone explain the main differences between these two supporters groups Please. Also is their any main reason why these to groups could not join forces together making it one massive organization The Supporters Club has been around since the year dot.....in the past its main purpose was to fund raise.....eg the Town End was built with funds raised by the SC. In return, the club always made "facilities" available for the SC, so there used to be a clubhouse in the Car park near the CGH, until the Arkells was built in 71/72, when the SC got new sooper dooper facilities inside. This was, if you like, a traditional situation between the bosses and the workers....the sort of benevolence which saw companies in Swindon provide social facilities for its workers. At the CG this situation was still intact into the mid 80's, when the SC could use the Rendezvous Club in the Arkells to host a do for fans and players, with no corporatism or faux corporatism in sight. When at this time, the Articles of Association were changed to try and get more money into the club...the Powers that be wasted little time in lobbing the SC out, so that the available space could used by the prawn sandwich brigade. Many stalwarts saw the writing on the wall and baled out of supporting at this time. This trend towards the unfettering of capitalism in football, meanwhile was leading to the establishment of the fanzine movement, as a counter point to the egotists and chancers who were starting to infect the game...this essentially underground movement was calling for greater consideration of fans involvement in their clubs, over a wide range of issues. It eventiually led to the Government sponsored initiative, Supporters Direct, which was set up to encourage the formation of Trusts, so that fans views could be heard...and in some cases take on the running of lower league community clubs. There is no reason why these two organisations can't co-operate, other than the fact their raison d'etres are different.[/quote]Thats interesting reg so you think further down the line these two groups could work closely together Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, September 14, 2007, 18:00:28 The bottom line is that both organisations want to help the club...
I'd like to see the Trust being a bit more proactive regarding trying to expose the true nature and intent of the Portugeezers, and so reminding them there will be no easy ride in thier attempot to profit at our loss. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: pauld on Friday, September 14, 2007, 18:26:25 The two organisations do cooperate e.g. over the Red Army Fund, threat of Town End closure etc. But what macca originally asked was whether they could merge and at the moment I'd have thought not, as we serve very different roles.
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Spencer_White on Saturday, September 15, 2007, 08:12:20 Back in the 80's did the supporters club run the coaches to away games? Was it a simmilar operation to now? Did the supporters club run many football special trains? Was there one to Carlisle one year?
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, September 15, 2007, 10:51:11 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Back in the 80's did the supporters club run the coaches to away games? Was it a simmilar operation to now? Did the supporters club run many football special trains? Was there one to Carlisle one year? SC ran the away coaches back in the 80's, and some football specials, although they were few and far between.....last one I recall was to Newcastle in the Cup....the train broke down, we got there 20 mins late..it was still 0-0. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, September 15, 2007, 10:56:59 Quote from: "redbullzeye" Didn't know mex was a homo :shock: Supporting Hampshire's bad enough Anyone from Brighton is gay and probably has the grid. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Sussex on Saturday, September 15, 2007, 11:08:08 Quote from: "Si Pie" Anyone from Brighton is gay and probably has the grid. South Coast Reds chose to leave the West Country for the Brighton area because of its thriving nightlife and metrosexual attitude to life. Homophobic cunt. :P (jury's out on Walrus mind) Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, September 15, 2007, 19:33:37 GAY CUNTS
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, September 15, 2007, 21:42:36 Quote from: "Si Pie" GAY CUNTS Is that a lesbian reference, Si? Where did you end up today btw? Is Fred still alive? You should have come back to the Town Gardens to see my nephew's band play. They were pretty good. Title: Re: Trust/Supporters club Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, September 16, 2007, 01:17:20 Quote from: "red macca" Could someone explain the main differences between these two supporters groups Please. Also is their any main reason why these to groups could not join forces together making it one massive organization One of them likes to think it's important. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 16, 2007, 08:25:59 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "Si Pie" GAY CUNTS Is that a lesbian reference, Si? Where did you end up today btw? Is Fred still alive? You should have come back to the Town Gardens to see my nephew's band play. They were pretty good. I went out to see Cat. Well, I was hoping she'd come along to the gardens but wasn't answering her phone. Simon heads home. As soon as I get in the door the bint decides to ring me. Anyways I went out to the Steam Railway and then down the bottom of town to a place called Casbah. Crap. And I've lost the back of my phone again. Although I remember it happening this time. Gay. Fred was alive the last I heard. Not sure about myself though. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: herthab on Sunday, September 16, 2007, 08:39:37 We won't be hearing from Mex, Sussex or Walrus today.
Gay pride march in Brighton this afternoon....................... Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 16, 2007, 08:40:53 Sussex gets his gay pride dates wrong and goes a week too early though
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Sunday, September 16, 2007, 11:40:56 theres no march as far as i know, and theres nothing wrong with the gay community here, it sets brighton apart from any other city in england.
ask yourself a question, where woulod you rather go for a night out - brighton or swindon? Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, September 17, 2007, 10:49:55 Swindon please.
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Luci on Monday, September 17, 2007, 10:53:46 I like the gay population factor of Brighton. People can be who they want to be without homophobic idiots being prejudice.
Brighton is ace and MUCH better than Swindon. Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 17, 2007, 11:16:12 You're all heterophobes
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: Sussex on Monday, September 17, 2007, 11:17:34 I've got a gay bloke on my facebook. Fact. :gay:
Title: Trust/Supporters club Post by: pauld on Monday, September 17, 2007, 11:22:11 Quote from: "Sussex" I've got a gay bloke sat on my face. Fact. :gay: Had to be done |