Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 08:02:44 Well Sturrock has made some decent signings, are we good enough to mount a challenge for the playoffs or higher now??? A bit of stability and no selling current players to sign these new players...
Also some positives - The new board (whoever they are) splashing out some cash - Not rubbish signings - Three Year Contracts, offering stability - No selling of players to bring new ones in (ie Brezovan) - Sturrock will likely stay now as he got his targets! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Red81 on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 08:04:27 I'm saying 6th - 12th final position.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 08:05:11 Midtable. Whilst I think we have a good squad with enough cover, I think the killer instinct to finish off games is something we could lack, especially if some of our key players lose form or get injured.
If we learn fast then we could be up there with the best of them. Sturrock knows what he's doing and I've been impressed with the style of play. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Rich Pullen on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 08:09:12 The most important thing is that we don't go down.
I'm not getting carried away so ridiculously early. Mid-Table finish still for me. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Red81 on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 08:10:07 How many points is it to guarantee not being relegated. Is it something like 55?
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 08:14:17 Quote from: "Red81" How many points is it to guarantee not being relegated. Is it something like 55? 90 that'lll do me! :wink: Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 09:43:48 I still think mid-table. But i voted not sure as it's only 3 games in FFS! Let's see what happens in the next 2 months or so.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: FlashGordon on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 09:52:51 Championes Championes oh lay oh lay oh lay....
:beers: Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 10:05:59 mid table this year, champions next year
I wonder if they already do odds on Swindon winning league one next year?! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Give us an S on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 10:06:43 I think we will finish upper mid table. Maybe about 11th. Next season is the year we will be really pushing for promotion i think.
Aint it fucking good though everyone being positive again and talking about the football!!! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: axs on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 10:06:44 I say 11th. top half but only just.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: axs on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 10:07:13 spooky chris.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Give us an S on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 10:08:01 Great minds think a like Andy!
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 11:31:35 Who said, 'ooooh, I'm not sure' ????
FFS! Have a guess....go on. Live dangerously :roll: Between you and me, none of us are sure, we're all just guessing :shock: Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 11:37:52 Quote from: "Rich Pullen" The most important thing is that we don't go down. I'm not getting carried away so ridiculously early. Mid-Table finish still for me. Exactly what he says. If we get a couple of top class loanees in we could push for a play-off place at best I reckon. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: thedarkprince on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 12:49:33 Mid-table finish for me - somewhere around 10th to 14th.
I think if our new players settle quickly, and Paynter can bang in 15+ goals, we could push higher. Just think play-offs are beyond us this season. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Ralphy on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 17:15:50 We're doomed.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Luci on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 18:15:58 Play offs. Were ace. I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Give us an S on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 18:16:58 Quote from: "STFCLady" I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are. Cant argue with that Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, September 1, 2007, 21:18:18 I'm going for somewhere between 8th and 12th. We're not a bad side but to reach the play-offs this year won't be easy
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 06:00:09 Unbeaten in 4.
Problems upfront (Hopefully) rectified. I think Sturrock will be looking at a top 6 spot. Overall the team looks stronger this season and seem to be playing the way Sturrock wants. I won't be too disappointed if we don't get promotion, as we've just come up, but I do think it's a realistic aim. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 07:22:11 Quote from: "herthab" Unbeaten in 4. Problems upfront (Hopefully) rectified. I think Sturrock will be looking at a top 6 spot. Overall the team looks stronger this season and seem to be playing the way Sturrock wants. I won't be too disappointed if we don't get promotion, as we've just come up, but I do think it's a realistic aim. I concur. Plenty of reasons to be cheerful there 8) Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 08:37:10 Quote from: "STFCLady" Play offs. Were ace. I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are. We're four fucking games in though :roll: Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 13:16:50 Quote from: "Si Pie" Quote from: "STFCLady" Play offs. Were ace. I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are. We're four fucking games in though :roll: no to mention, we've actually drawn with three of the teams 'we're better than' Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 13:23:14 Yup. We'll be pushing for the play offs at this rate though DV! :wink:
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 13:30:56 I know it's an alien concept on here most of the time, but try and get your heads around it.
It's called positivity :wink: Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 13:55:18 Its actually called delusion.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 16:52:00 Quote from: "DV" Its actually called delusion. Why don't you go and slash your wrists, whilst listening to the Smiths? A bit of optimism makes a change from the usual depressive shit....... Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 18:56:29 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "DV" Its actually called delusion. Why don't you go and slash your wrists, whilst listening to the Smiths? A bit of optimism makes a change from the usual depressive shit....... Yes, I think we'll finish mid table how depressing of me :roll: Is the glass half full or half empty? Simple logic says its obviously both! Realist! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Sunday, September 2, 2007, 19:03:41 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "DV" Its actually called delusion. Why don't you go and slash your wrists, whilst listening to the Smiths? A bit of optimism makes a change from the usual depressive shit....... Yes, I think we'll finish mid table how depressing of me :roll: Is the glass half full or half empty? Simple logic says its obviously both! Realist! I never said you were depressive. I said a bit of optimism makes a change from the usual depressive shit. Mid table would be ok, promotion would be better! And I don't think it's delusional to think that Sturrock can get us to the playoffs. But as has been mentioned already, it's early days........... Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Luci on Monday, September 3, 2007, 07:57:59 Quote from: "Si Pie" Quote from: "STFCLady" Play offs. Were ace. I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are. We're four fucking games in though :roll: I'm actually referring too what I've watched on various programmes highlights etc. and comparing us from previous seasons, utmost being optimistic. You doom and gloomers bore me. For the record, I couldn't give a shit if I'm completely wrong and were relegated! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Luci on Monday, September 3, 2007, 08:00:05 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "Si Pie" Quote from: "STFCLady" Play offs. Were ace. I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are. We're four fucking games in though :roll: no to mention, we've actually drawn with three of the teams 'we're better than' Yes but created far more chances which would probably have resulted in a different story if we had a striker! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 3, 2007, 09:43:10 I'd like to think I am just being a bit more realistic. Four games in, unbeaten - shows we can hold our own in this league. As for play off material, we've let in 4 cracking goals, so it takes something special to score against us. That said, we can't put many away. Lest we forget we only just got the 3 points against Luton. As I've said elsewhere, if we learn fast and get the killer touch we could be up there with the best of them. However, if this takes another 5 or 6 games that could even be too late.
We've really got to act fast if we're going to beat the likes of Hartlepool or Yeovil who are proving to be the real play off contenders thus far. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2007, 09:46:31 we could potentially be up there in the shake up.but it all depends if our new forwards and corr come up trumps.lets hope so!
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2007, 09:50:16 Quote from: "Si Pie" I'd like to think I am just being a bit more realistic. Four games in, unbeaten - shows we can hold our own in this league. As for play off material, we've let in 4 cracking goals, so it takes something special to score against us. That said, we can't put many away. Lest we forget we only just got the 3 points against Luton. As I've said elsewhere, if we learn fast and get the killer touch we could be up there with the best of them. However, if this takes another 5 or 6 games that could even be too late. We've really got to act fast if we're going to beat the likes of Hartlepool or Yeovil who are proving to be the real play off contenders thus far. Agree about Hartlepool, but Yeovil? They're one point in front of us, have the same problem we've been experiencing, ie lack of a goal scorer and are defensively more fragile than us. If we lose to them Sunday I'm going to get so much shit from them, I've got 4 bets on us down my local :( Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 3, 2007, 10:03:27 We'll see. I hope I am proved wrong, as this really isn't about who is going to be right. Anyway, I think mid-table isn't being a doom merchant. I think most people would have found that more than acceptable before the start of the season.
I'm loving the style of play now compared to what Wise had us doing. In League 2 it seems you can get away with not scoring many as long as you have a water-tight defence. I think under Sturrocks play things hinge on converting those chances. If you don't then all the work is in vain really. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2007, 10:14:34 I'd be happy with mid-table, but it's understandable that expectations are raised with good performances and new signings.
We've looked good (apart from upfront) on the whole and with the addition of new strikers and the return of Corr, hopefully we'll begin to convert the chances we're making. Totally agree about the way we're playing this season under Sturrock, last year I think he continued with Wise's tactics to an extent, because he had to. But now, with players he wanted and the pre season to drill them, I think we're seeing a real Sturrock team. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 3, 2007, 10:26:55 Early results and new signings show that we should definitely be able to hold our own. (Also shows how important getting out of League 2 was. Never should have been there.)
I'd be happy with a flirtation with the play off places this year. We should at least be aiming for that. But I think I would also be happy with a solid mid table performance. If that goes to plan (and off the field matter are resolved successfully) we should realistically be looking at a promotion push in 2008/09. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Lumps on Monday, September 3, 2007, 11:49:54 I think Luggy's target will be play off's. I also think he'd be a bit dissappointed if we didn't make it, and given a decent run I think we should do it.
A couple of serious injuries to key players might bugger us up, but otherwise I think we should be in with a shout. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: RobertT on Monday, September 3, 2007, 11:57:11 Safely snuggled in mid table, and depending on January we might hold hopes of a play off spot until late in the season just to keep it interesting. My original prediction, based on our starting squad was 18th, but I think with the new additions adding a bit of competition and possibly some better crossing, we can improve on that.
The realistic side of me keeps reminding me we have drawn 3 games against teams I would have put down for fighting relegation this season, the positve side is we beat the one who should be challenging. Hard to beat, low scoring etc etc. I reckon around 12th would be likely given what I have now seen and the prospect of improvement. That would be a great position given 2005/06 and how little time has passed and how little off the field stability we've had. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2007, 11:59:34 To be honest I'm just releived that thus far we have looked like we can hold our own in this league. we haven't played the world beaters, but Luton and Crewe are not exactly shit.
How well we do will hinge on the obvious, i.e. how well Paynter, Cox and the Corr find the net. If they click playoffs are an outside possibility. It is very early days just yet though. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Monday, September 3, 2007, 13:11:13 I wouldnt exactly call mid table doom and gloom!
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Monday, September 3, 2007, 13:12:27 Quote from: "STFCLady" Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "Si Pie" Quote from: "STFCLady" Play offs. Were ace. I've yet to see a team that are much better than we are. We're four fucking games in though :roll: no to mention, we've actually drawn with three of the teams 'we're better than' Yes but created far more chances which would probably have resulted in a different story if we had a striker! Would, could should, if, but maybe. Valid point, but we didnt have a striker, so we didnt take the chances, so we didn win the game. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Crozzer on Monday, September 3, 2007, 16:57:37 Quote from: For the record, I couldn't give a shit if I'm completely wrong and were relegated![/quote With this squad, and this manager, relegation would involve a considerable amount of shit, with the majority of it being airborne after hitting a cooling device. "Bird" Shit would be included. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 3, 2007, 18:12:56 Out of interest to this debate, here's a Crewe view of Saturday's events taken from Rivals
Yet against a dire Swindon side, playing typical Paul Sturrock, long ball football, Crewe could only muster one point and one goal; and that strike came virtue of an imperious Steven Schumacher volley. Crewe really didn't look like scoring after that. Some of the crosses into the box looked half-decent, but Pope never looked particularly threatening and I am still thoroughly unconvinced by Shaun Miller. Swindon were poor in the second half, easily the worst team we have come across so far, and they will probably end up in the relegation mix-up. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2007, 18:18:30 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Out of interest to this debate, here's a Crewe view of Saturday's events taken from Rivals Yet against a dire Swindon side, playing typical Paul Sturrock, long ball football, Crewe could only muster one point and one goal; and that strike came virtue of an imperious Steven Schumacher volley. Crewe really didn't look like scoring after that. Some of the crosses into the box looked half-decent, but Pope never looked particularly threatening and I am still thoroughly unconvinced by Shaun Miller. Swindon were poor in the second half, easily the worst team we have come across so far, and they will probably end up in the relegation mix-up. I'm obviously biased, but that is total shite imho. Long ball game? Bollocks! And if we're the worst they've played and they could only draw with us, surely they too will be in a relegation fight. I don't think we played as well as we could, but every newspaper report I read on the game said we dominated and deserved the 3 points. Whoever wrote that is a blind cunt. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 3, 2007, 18:25:26 I only posted it because it provides a different perspective......I assume ,"he", wasn't too impressed by his own team. Don't forget Crewe fans have been treated to some decent football over the years....I can recall us getting mullered by the Dean Ashton Rob Hulse duo 3 or 4 years back and a Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson midfield partnership giving us the run around a bit before that.
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, September 3, 2007, 18:37:46 A lot of fans of others clubs seem to think that PS plays hoof ball, but ever since he has come here he has emphasised getting the ball down and wide, then into the box.........The Danny Murphy, Seth Johndon partnership, was the 1995-1996?
Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 3, 2007, 18:44:00 Quote from: "Panda Paws" A lot of fans of others clubs seem to think that PS plays hoof ball, but ever since he has come here he has emphasised getting the ball down and wide, then into the box.........The Danny Murphy, Seth Johndon partnership, was the 1995-1996? March 99..... Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: DV on Monday, September 3, 2007, 19:07:23 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" I only posted it because it provides a different perspective......I assume ,"he", wasn't too impressed by his own team. Don't forget Crewe fans have been treated to some decent football over the years....I can recall us getting mullered by the Dean Ashton Rob Hulse duo 3 or 4 years back and a Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson midfield partnership giving us the run around a bit before that. not forgetting Rodney Jack... Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 3, 2007, 21:04:14 Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" I only posted it because it provides a different perspective......I assume ,"he", wasn't too impressed by his own team. Don't forget Crewe fans have been treated to some decent football over the years....I can recall us getting mullered by the Dean Ashton Rob Hulse duo 3 or 4 years back and a Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson midfield partnership giving us the run around a bit before that. not forgetting Rodney Jack... Indeedy.....my own personal Rodney Jack, hell, memory though was the Boxing Day fixture 03 I think....at Rushden and Diamonds.....we were terrible....Fallon got sent off early doors, and Jack took the piss out of Gurney. The lump Lowe got a couple....I fucking hate games like that, Cheltnumb, Wycombe, Barnet spring to mind where we've about 1/3 or more of the crowd....so intimidating its not, yet the players are still crap, so much for the 12th man bollocks. Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Tails on Thursday, September 6, 2007, 18:47:59 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "DV" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" I only posted it because it provides a different perspective......I assume ,"he", wasn't too impressed by his own team. Don't forget Crewe fans have been treated to some decent football over the years....I can recall us getting mullered by the Dean Ashton Rob Hulse duo 3 or 4 years back and a Danny Murphy, Seth Johnson midfield partnership giving us the run around a bit before that. not forgetting Rodney Jack... Indeedy.....my own personal Rodney Jack, hell, memory though was the Boxing Day fixture 03 I think....at Rushden and Diamonds.....we were terrible....Fallon got sent off early doors, and Jack took the piss out of Gurney. The lump Lowe got a couple....I fucking hate games like that, Cheltnumb, Wycombe, Barnet spring to mind where we've about 1/3 or more of the crowd....so intimidating its not, yet the players are still crap, so much for the 12th man bollocks. Ah yes, Fallons little scrap with Hunter. Then in the reverse fixture when Hunter scored an own goal, Fallon proceeded to laugh in his face. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Funny stuff. Whatever happened to Onandi Lowe? Or Rubbish and Dustbins for that matter?! Title: UP THE FOOTBALL LEAGUE WE GO??? Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, September 6, 2007, 19:41:46 Lowe got into trub with the law for dealing coke.....he got off on some technicality.
Think he was at Coventry at the time....he drifted back to the WI.....at one point the scum wanted him, them being a suitable repository for the dodgy and criminal footballer, but he couldn't get a work permit or something. Barry Hunter of course ended up as Assistant manager with us for a whilelast season, on eof the morre bizarre aspects of a bizarre promo campaign. |