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Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 16:25:09
Who do you think is our number 1?


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 16:38:52
smith is and will continue to be no1, but not because he's the better keeper


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 17:16:05
Firstly, Smith is our no.1. Just look at the squad numbers. It's a FACT! So on that basis there is no need for a poll.

If you mean who is the better keeper, then I don't know. As far as I am concerned, Smith came into the side 10 months ago and has performed magnificantly ever since. He was outstanding at Northampton and clearly is in the side on merit.

Brez is obviously an excellent keeper also, but barring injury to Smith or a series of catostrophic errors, he is going to have to stay on the bench.

This is the first time in all my years of supporting that infuriating rag tag hit-or-miss, all-or-nothing bundle of frustration that is STFC, that we have had not one but TWO ridiculously high quality keepers. The highest praise I can give them is that they are both at least as good as Fraser Digby (a TRUE STFC legend).

I really can't separate them. For me, it's just a case of  'Smith has the shirt, it's his to lose'.

Some people nonetheless, seem to be convinced that Brez is better than Smith. I put this down to two things.

1. They are getting the words 'better' and 'taller' mixed up. Brez is definitely 'taller' than Smithy, I would not dispute that. I think they are getting confused though. When they say 'Oooh, Brez is better than Smith', they actually mean , 'Oooh, Brez is taller than Smith. It's an easy mistake to make.

2. A little more sinister. I think there is some serious 'man love' going on for Brez. Some of our regular - on the face of it 100% hetro - posters seem to have totally fallen for those Slavic, swarthy dark looks and icy blue eyes and have lost all objectivity on the subject.

To conclude, they are BOTH damned good keepers and you shouldn't say Brez is better just because you are physically attracted to him.

Thankyou.

P.S. I'm not anti bummers. It's your choice. I don't think any the less of you if you are. I'm cool with it. Just don't let it cloud your judgment.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 17:28:55
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Firstly, Smith is our no.1. Just look at the squad numbers. It's a FACT! So on that basis there is no need for a poll.


Pedant.

I knew someone would come up with that............... :)


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: RobertT on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 17:36:21
I'll try and sum up why I went for Brez without trying to get beaten up by the Smith Love that is going around (works for both players it seems).

With Brezovan, I'm confident the forward will miss

With Smith, I'm confident he will save it

Clearly neither will happen all the time, it's just the way the play.  Brez is more your Schmeichel and Smith more your Given.  I just happen to think Brezovan, by being intimidating as well as pretty damned good at saving the ball, has the edge.

Against all that, I fully understand why Smith is getting picked and don't dispute that decision.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Spud on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 18:01:16
Phil Smith has done nothing wrong so far and deserves to be the current number one.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 18:50:24
Smith is the current number one and has earned that right.

That's not to say he's any better than Brez though. I still can't decide between them.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 20:05:17
The only major differences I really notice are that Smith kicks nothing like a town keeper, likes to kick the ball (rarely throws and is patient) and doesn't totally command the box.

Brez owns the box, no question, loves to make quick throws and his kicking is up their with Rhys "Row Z" Evans, although that's a touch harsh, as against Charlton he kicked well.

Don't get me wrong, Smith deserves to be number 1 and rightly so. But there's something about Brez that makes me feel more confident. It's probably the fact that he claims corners for fun and if i was a striker, i think he'd be quite a scary prospect to face.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 20:48:51
Smith earned the number one shirt, It is up to Brez to earn it back. I see no reason why Smith should be dropped. Open and shut case really.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 20:54:36
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
But there's something about Brez that makes me feel more confident


Bollocks.

You've just fallen for his Slavic, swarthy dark looks and icy blue eyes as per my original post.

There is absolutely no rational reason for anyone to say that Brezovan is better than Smith other than the fact that he 'looks the part' more than Smith does.

Smith has done NOTHING wrong and yet people still say Brez is better.  I have said it before, I will say it again and will continue to say it until I am blue in the face to anyone who says.

"Ooooh! Brez is the better keeper" or "Ooooh! I just have more confidence in Brez"

BOLLOCKS!


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 20:59:37
For anyone who has the attention span of a goldfish, just a reminder that I actually think Brez is a top keeper.

Thanks for your time.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 21:00:26
As amusingly put as that is, i'm inclined to think you're on the money.

I don't think brez is better, his size and good looks just make me have more confidence in him.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 21:06:05
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
As amusingly put as that is, i'm inclined to think you're on the money.

I don't think brez is better, his size and good looks just make me have more confidence in him.


People really do make a lot of judgements based on physical appearance. It happens in all walks of life and we all do it. Myself included, even though I have just been ridiculing it. It's sad but true. :shrug:


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 21:07:15
We miss Brez on crosses, although as he's a bit rusty even he is prone to error (vs Charlton).

Still think with our wingers playing like they did against Luton (and Smith at right back) then Brez's throws could favour the style Sturrock likes - certainly Roberts could be good on the counter and Zaaboub on his day.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: magic8ball on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 21:18:21
Quote from: "Barry Scott"
As amusingly put as that is, i'm inclined to think you're on the money.

I don't think brez is better, his size and good looks just make me have more confidence in him.


He's like a dark haired Ivan Drago.

"I will break you"


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 21:53:29
I think the fact there is Championship clubs fishing sniffing around Brez more than suggests he is the better keeper.......Brez is the better keeper as he does something that many modern day keepers don't do and that's command his box when defending crosses. After Brez was injured I don't think it was a coincidence that we appeared much more prone to conceding from crosses.

The height thing may not sound rational but that does play a major part in how good a keeper is. Brez probably has an overall reach of about a foot more than Smith which could in itself mean 4 or 5 goals less conceded a season.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:05:02
Quote from: "glos_robin"
I think the fact there is Championship clubs fishing sniffing around Brez more than suggests he is the better keeper.......


It does no such thing.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:08:58
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "glos_robin"
I think the fact there is Championship clubs fishing sniffing around Brez more than suggests he is the better keeper.......


It does no such thing.


Then surely if Smith was the better keeper they'd be sniffing around him......anyway everyone seems to find it hard to seperate the two ability wise so it seems basic logic to me that the taller one must be better as he can reach further and has a bigger surface area with which to save the ball.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:10:21
As long as the one that gets picked plays well, eh?


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:24:09
Quote from: "glos_robin"
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "glos_robin"
I think the fact there is Championship clubs fishing sniffing around Brez more than suggests he is the better keeper.......


It does no such thing.


Then surely if Smith was the better keeper they'd be sniffing around him......anyway everyone seems to find it hard to seperate the two ability wise so it seems basic logic to me that the taller one must be better as he can reach further and has a bigger surface area with which to save the ball.


Let's drop the pretence of these 'Championship clubs' who are supposedly 'sniffing around' Brez. You've clearly fallen for his swarthy, Slavic good looks (not forgetting the ice blue eyes). It's man love. I'm cool with that, I'm sure most people on the forum are as well (well, maybe not Spacey, he's pretty homophobic to be honest with you) It's all good. Let it all out. You'll feel much better when you do 8)


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:25:12
Quote from: "Si Pie"
As long as the one that gets picked plays well, eh?


Wise words :nod:


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:25:22
OST fancies Phil Smith


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: spacey on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 22:31:43
How dare you accuse me of homophobia! I think gays are great. I got a lift from sonic once, and I didn't feel remotely queasy. what more proof do you need?


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, August 24, 2007, 07:39:59
Quote from: "spacey"
How dare you accuse me of homophobia! I think gays are great. I got a lift from sonic once, and I didn't feel remotely queasy. what more proof do you need?


Heh! heh!



queasy 8)


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, August 24, 2007, 07:43:50
Quote from: "Si Pie"
OST fancies Phil Smith


Hmmmm....well I have been dreaming about him rather more than usual in the last week or so :shock:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/wiltshire/content/images/2007/01/19/phil_smith_b_150_150x200.jpg

You have to admit, he does have a lovely smile :gay:


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:25:08
But Brez's smile is more commanding.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:43:30
and he's got them big strong arms...

Brez is dreamy. :oops:


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: Melksham Red on Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:56:21
There's not alot in it for me. Both keepers fill me with confidence. Smithy has the shirt and that's fine. It's his to lose and if that happens we have an excellent keeper as back up. I think it's a fantastic situation that we have two fine keepers at the club. Smith may just edge it slightly. I expect his communication is better and I think Brez looks a bit vulnerable to anything low due to his size.


Title: Smiffy or Brez?
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, August 24, 2007, 13:10:47
I don't really care, I just wish we'd sell one of then. Having two good keepers hurts my head.