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Title: Jim Little Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 06:58:10 Radio Swindon reporting that Jim Little is to be appointed a director at the club and take up the day to day running at SN1. Apparently he was previously vice-chairman at Cork City FC. Any thoughts/knowledge?
Title: Jim Little Post by: Batch on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 07:13:44 Portuguese holding companies, Jim Little, Rufus Brevett. Confused? You will be.
Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 07:30:41 Found this article on Jim Little - hes an investment banker
This is the full article: Consortium takes shareholding in Cork City FC By Ian Kehoe A consortium led by a London-based investment banker, Jim Little, has taken a major shareholding in Cork City Football Club, one of the most successful clubs in the Eircom League of Ireland. The deal was completed in recent weeks following several months of talks between Little and the club's chairman, Cork businessman Brian Lennox who owns two well-known fish and chip shops in Cork. Little has attended a number of the club's fixtures in recent weeks. Lennox had been trying for some time to secure outside investment for the club, which has been struggling financially in recent years. Last year, the Revenue Commissioners took a High Court petition to wind up Cork City after it fell into tax arrears, although the matter was subsequently settled. Lennox will continue to act as the club's chairman, although all major financial decisions will be sanctioned by Little. The two businessmen have been friends for some time. Lennox was on holidays last week and could not be reached for comment. According to accounts just filed, Cork City had retained losses of €248,000 for the year ending November 30, 2003. During the year, the company made an after tax loss of about €160,000. Little is the latest businessman to invest money into an Eircom League of Ireland club. Dublin property developer Garrett Kelleher recently acquired St Patrick's Athletic, one of the league's most high profile outfits. Kelleher's company, Shelbourne Developments, is behind plans to build the tallest building in North America in the US city of Chicago. The company received approval last week from Chicago City Council to build the 2,000-foot tower designed by Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava. Wexford property developer and builder Mick Wallace recently established his own club, Wexford Youths. He has already spent more than €2.5 million developing a facility that includes two top-quality pitches, a number of synthetic training surfaces and a 7,500 square-foot complex complete with social area, recovery room and 4,000 square foot gymnasium. So far this season, attendances at the Eircom League are up almost 50 per cent on this time last year, while the prize fund has significantly increased. This is the first year that the Football Association of Ireland (FAI) have direct responsibility for running the league. Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 07:33:28 incidentally that was in May this year !
Title: Jim Little Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 07:36:17 Quote Cork businessman Brian Lennox who owns two well-known fish and chip shops in Cork Priceless 8) Title: Jim Little Post by: yeo on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 07:50:41 :mrgreen:
Title: Jim Little Post by: sheepshagger on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 07:55:23 Well according to todays Adver we will be somewhere that young Portugese players will come to get some experience and we can flog on....
Sorry - maybe a little cynical here but if that is the case I can see Luggy saying fuck off ........ Anyone tries to interfere in the selection and he will be out of here like a shot.... On a brighter note Wankdroniku is "very hopeful that the money will be forwarded to him to pay the CVA" Well all sorted then....... Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 08:07:35 Sheepshagger if im honest i would say you are a bite wide of the mark in regards to sturrock "fucking off".
Sturrock has said himself he looks to buy youngsters that are "saleable assets" i cant see how it can be a bid thing. If they are shit they dont get signed as the agents no that there is no money to be made, if they end up decent then thats good for the team which obviously helps performances then we can also make some money. We are league one and unfortunatly every club in this league bar forest maybe will look to sell anything that can make them cash Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 08:10:48 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Quote Cork businessman Brian Lennox who owns two well-known fish and chip shops in Cork Priceless 8) See I was right in one of my previous posts - I knew it was that Portuguese Chippy in Highworth that was taking over!! :wink: Title: Jim Little Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 08:28:03 Best look out for one of this lot turning up then:
http://www.arkagafund.com/people.html Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 08:29:53 well Karen Young can sit next to me if she wants :)
Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 08:33:48 Quote from: "pauld" Best look out for one of this lot turning up then: There alot better looking than this lot thats for sure :D http://www.arkagafund.com/people.html http://www.castrobrothers.com/pt/ Title: Jim Little Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 08:38:19 Quote from: "red macca" Sheepshagger if im honest i would say you are a bite wide of the mark in regards to sturrock "fucking off". Sturrock has said himself he looks to buy youngsters that are "saleable assets" i cant see how it can be a bid thing. If they are shit they dont get signed as the agents no that there is no money to be made, if they end up decent then thats good for the team which obviously helps performances then we can also make some money. We are league one and unfortunatly every club in this league bar forest maybe will look to sell anything that can make them cash Macca is right again. Forcing Sturrock to sign shite portugese players is not going to make anyone any money is it? Title: Jim Little Post by: Power to people on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:21:27 I've found this from a Cork City fans site:
The Arkaga website is down at the moment, but you can view some of the former content via Google cache. " Management Team Arkaga Capital is a team of experienced investment and business professionals. Our partners include some of the most reliable firms in the industry. As Arkaga Capital’s Managing Partner, Jim Little oversees the fund’s operations, partnerships, and overall investment strategy. Jim is also a partner at the Arkaga Fund, our private equity firm based in London. Prior to joining Arkaga, Jim was a principal at Talos, a US-based consultancy. Over the past twelve years Jim has provided strategic planning and operations management advice to clients including Citibank, VISA, CapitalOne, and US Bank. Jim’s academic background focused on economics and finance. He holds post-graduate degrees from Johns Hopkins and Harvard Universities. Arkaga conducts its clearing and custody with Goldman Sachs of London. Our corporate banker is Royal Bank of Scotland International (Jersey). " "The Arkaga Capital Fund is limited to 49 investors, and a total asset value of £400,000,000." (IMG:style_emoticons/default/easy.gif) (Take that St Pats! However then comes the interesting bit as far as i'm concerned. "While Arkaga I provides capital to both new and mature organizations, we usually support small to medium-sized companies who are seeking capital to accelerate growth. The size of our typical investment is £3M to £5M ($5M to $8M). We usually acquire initial equity stakes of approximately 40%. Arkaga II invests in new and existing properties for long-term returns. We typically invest £4M to £25M ($6.8M to $40M) in our portfolio properties with LTV ratios of 80-90%. In some instances, we invest through joint-ventures with other real estate development partners. " Hmmmmmm. Jim Little and co have got around 50% right? My impressions from that would be that Brian made a "Dragons then" type pitch for additional investment based on future exponential returns. Not that theres anything wrong with that, if we get money and expertise in and it's not a loan. Anybody think that this is a possibility? Title: Jim Little Post by: Power to people on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:22:58 Oh and Aidan Tynan rolled up at Cork City
Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:24:50 Quote In some instances, we invest through joint-ventures with other real estate development partners. Here we go then. Title: Jim Little Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:29:33 Am I missing something? Why would an investment banker/fund manager want to run our club?
Title: Jim Little Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:35:17 Does this mean our current(old) owners have just raised more money from an investment firm - So there hasn't really been a takeover at all ??
Smoke and mirrors !!! Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:36:19 Quote from: "Mister Lorenzo" Does this mean our current(old) owners have just raised more money from an investment firm - So there hasn't really been a takeover at all ?? Smoke and mirrors !!! Dunno .. funny cos that was my old mans take on it .. god i hope not tho Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:39:05 Quote from: "Batch" Portuguese holding companies, Jim Little, Rufus Brevett. Confused? You will be. To answer Batch's question and putting the pieces together. It looks like the "takeover" is a consortium composed of an investment company with an interest in property development, presumably to run the business side, a Portuguese investment vehicle to feed trialists on the playing side - possibly the Castro brothers - and Diamandis and Wills stay onboard and keep their fingers in the pie. Oh I can't wait. Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:40:46 And I wonder what St Modwen's take is on all this? Have they been bought out as well?
[Edit] Or perhaps they are a "real estate development partner"? Title: Jim Little Post by: The_Plagiarist on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:42:50 "Bullshit investment" springs to mind. Surprisingly this is all shady as fuck.
Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 09:51:18 And also presumably why the "deal" was concluded in London then.
http://www.arkagafund.com/contact.html Title: Jim Little Post by: Ardiles on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:00:50 The conduct of the key players involved in this transaction is disgusting. Complete disregard for the supporters of the club. Drip feeding information as & when it suits them. We deserve so much better than this.
Title: Jim Little Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:03:12 NEW OWNERS OUT! :wink:
Cue: Fatters to take it seriously and go spasticated again! Title: Jim Little Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:17:03 WE'RE DOOMED, DOOMED I TELL THEE
Title: Jim Little Post by: axs on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:19:16 i'm going to give up now and go and support supermarine.
Title: Jim Little Post by: Foggy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:26:53 I am just going to wait and see what happens before deciding that the new investors are the anti-christ in disguise. This section should be renamed the" Bored" section. The club are not at liberty to discuse their business on an internet forum for fucks sake.
Title: Jim Little Post by: The_Plagiarist on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:39:24 You do that foggy. Keep us updated please.
Title: Jim Little Post by: wokinghamred on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:44:02 Interesting comment from the Cork City chairman when Jim Little got involved with Cork
"It has been a long few months of negotiations but I am happy now to be able to welcome Jim on board. I understand that people may have become frustrated with the lack of news but due to the process involved it was important to do everything correctly.” Sound familiar? Title: Jim Little Post by: Peter Venkman on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 10:46:08 also from the cork city forum.......
quote "Where is the money? all i have seen since they took over is players being sold for big money and non of it being used to buy new players? This big GM appointment now looks like a part time job for an Arkaga employee. Who is paying him for the role? There are too many questions at the moment and the club should release some sort of "Truthful" news" end quote Title: Jim Little Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:01:22 Quote from: "jjedmunds" also from the cork city forum....... quote "Where is the money? all i have seen since they took over is players being sold for big money and non of it being used to buy new players? This big GM appointment now looks like a part time job for an Arkaga employee. Who is paying him for the role? There are too many questions at the moment and the club should release some sort of "Truthful" news" end quote That sounds strangely familiar......I almost had a moment of optimism this morning at the thought of the imcompetents finally leaving our club, and the hope that someone with a bit of nous might take us forward....back to scepticism it is then. Title: Jim Little Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:09:34 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "Batch" Portuguese holding companies, Jim Little, Rufus Brevett. Confused? You will be. To answer Batch's question and putting the pieces together. It looks like the "takeover" is a consortium composed of an investment company with an interest in property development, presumably to run the business side, a Portuguese investment vehicle to feed trialists on the playing side - possibly the Castro brothers - and Diamandis and Wills stay onboard and keep their fingers in the pie. Oh I can't wait. Title: Jim Little Post by: Foggy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:10:38 Quote from: "The_Plagiarist" You do that foggy. Keep us updated please. I have a strange feeling that you will remain a twat well into the next 20-30 years. Title: Jim Little Post by: tans on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:17:52 Quote from: "Foggy" Quote from: "The_Plagiarist" You do that foggy. Keep us updated please. I have a strange feeling that you will remain a twat well into the next 20-30 years. Ace. 8) Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:32:52 Looks like we are at one with Cork City then! Doesnt look too good so far does it
Title: Jim Little Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:42:21 DOOOOOOOMED
Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 11:59:35 Quote from: "jjedmunds" also from the cork city forum....... quote "Where is the money? all i have seen since they took over is players being sold for big money and non of it being used to buy new players? This big GM appointment now looks like a part time job for an Arkaga employee. Who is paying him for the role? There are too many questions at the moment and the club should release some sort of "Truthful" news" end quote The scary aspect of this is that if the investors running the club can make millions by selling players on then they don't have to give a shit what the fans, the Trust or the Supporters' Club think or say. If their business model is based upon profit from players then income from gate receipts starts to become secondary. So unlike the case of Diamandis (and previous board incarnations), they don't have to take any notice of protests behind the Arkells and the prospect of programme or match boycotts would hold little terror for them as it wouldn't affect their main income stream. In extremis it wouldn't matter if the supporters turned up on matchday or not. I'm not saying that this is definitely the case here. But I have a horrible, horrible feeling that we are about to say goodbye to Swindon Town Football Club and hello to Swindon Town Football Investments. Title: Jim Little Post by: The_Plagiarist on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:07:56 Quote from: "Foggy" Quote from: "The_Plagiarist" You do that foggy. Keep us updated please. I have a strange feeling that you will remain a twat well into the next 20-30 years. RUMBLED by Hercule Foggy :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Title: Jim Little Post by: Christy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:09:59 Before we all get a little carried away with celebrating self-fulfilling prophecies about the end of STFC, it's worth mentioning that there's some lively debate in Cork (http://www.ccfcforum.com/forum/) about the nature and intent of their investment.
Would you adam and eve it, but it's not as black and white as some would have us believe. For example, also from the Cork City forum, Tiktok said: Quote On a good day.... Jim Little has invested money, the fruits of which are there to see off the field with some new staff and in the club shop (a new cost this season). Getting off the field right first was his principle focus. He works for Arkaga, who are an investment management firm, so he knows them well. He, as an investor in Cork City, has retained Arkaga to monitor his investment and he (the club) are paying them to have Adrian Tynan onsite to get us in good shape. [Hiring an external General Manager who specialises in turning unprofitable companies profitable is not a new concept - of course, the means taken to achieve this profitability are the question]. Once Tynan has finished gathering information, looking at our structure (which he seems to be doing at the moment seeing as Rico seems to have been the only person working on the ROD negotiations) and implementing the neccessary changes, Tynan will return to Arkaga and larger projects. On the field activities can begin in earnest, with the windfall from recent transfers there to be spent. That money might be currently be held because access to a portion of it might be needed to guarantee the club's long term viability. On a bad day.... Arkaga saw the interest generated among certain Cork individuals when the club was initially up for sale and have bought a controlling interest in Cork City FC. They have pushed Brian Lennox to the sidelines and sent Jim Little and Adrian Tynan (in his first project for the Arkaga group - starting him small) over here to assess the company in order to generate money in the short term to cover their initial purchase cost. They are doing this by selling players, our only asset, to match (or beat) their purchase price, at which stage they will pull the rug and put the club on the market again hoping to get people interested in buying the club and making a quick profit. ********************* Those are your two options on the Arkaga thing, the second one really is very very unlikely, if only because a company like Arkaga has bigger fish to fry than the return they'd get off a football club in Cork with no tangible assets whatsoever, and it's an awful lot of hassle to go to when they could have just come in and done the exact same thing publically [as in, why would they care what a small handful of fans (not shareholders) thought]. Look, Jim Little turned up at a CCOSC fans forum, none of us knew him really, but from talking to him, Rico and Brian during the meeting and individually afterwards, I have no reason to disbelieve anything that they said on the night. Little seemed genuine in his interest in the club and his friendship with Brian. For the time being, I'm trying my damnedest to hang onto my 'good day' from above, but a few players would really help me believe that we're trying to build both a successful club and a successful team, and not just a successful business at the expense of all else. Title: Jim Little Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:13:57 Quote from: "The_Plagiarist" Quote from: "Foggy" Quote from: "The_Plagiarist" You do that foggy. Keep us updated please. I have a strange feeling that you will remain a twat well into the next 20-30 years. RUMBLED by Hercule Foggy :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Plagiarist you are a laugh a minute this is almost as funny as the time when you picked a whole 11 of Smith's absolutely classic :( Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:16:31 (In reply to Christy)
But you can pick what you like from that forum. The post above could have been written by Nigel Bennett in our case. How about (regarding the news that Little has left Cork City): Quote Is he gone from City now and moved onto swindon ,if so what was his purpose here? This is dodgy stuff Title: Jim Little Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:20:12 Is it just me but whenever anyone says anyhting that could be seen as a little bit positive someone has to come and say something negative to get people fearing the worst again?
Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:22:19 no its not that .. its just this Jim Little character who is supposedly taking over is reportedly dodgy according to the Cork City fans who seem to be in a similar position to ours .
from Cork City Forum ..Jim Little is American. He works for an investment company: http://www.arkagafund.com/index.html Last February, it was announced that Little was visiting Cork and representing a group of potential investors. At the time Cork City FC were in need of investment. A few weeks later, Little was announced as the investor and announced as vice-chairman. At the supporters club meeting in April, Little attended and it was specified that he was the investor and the investment was coming from himself and from nobody else. It was specifically mentioned that the investment was not from Arkaga Fund. Since he came on the scene, we've sold Alan Bennett to Reading and Roy O'Donovan to Sunderland for the best part of €1m. and got no players in as replacements. About 2 months ago it was announced that Cork City FC have a new general manager called Aidan Tynan. Since his arrival, Little hasn't been around. As it now turns out, Tynan works for Arkaga Fund and he seems to be running the show/circus/whatever you now want to call it. We don't even know who owns our club anymore. Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:28:18 Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Is it just me but whenever anyone says anyhting that could be seen as a little bit positive someone has to come and say something negative to get people fearing the worst again? It's just you Gaz :P Seriously, considering the tiny and reluctant amount of information coming from the club about the "takeover" and the flat refusal by them to answer the Adver's or the Trust's questions, what do you expect? Title: Jim Little Post by: Christy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:32:33 Quote But you can pick what you like from that forum. Talk Talk. Thank you, precisely. Which is why I quoted a post that went to some effort to outline BOTH sides of the argument, rather than a woe is me soundbite. Title: Jim Little Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:33:24 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza" Is it just me but whenever anyone says anyhting that could be seen as a little bit positive someone has to come and say something negative to get people fearing the worst again? It's just you Gaz :P Seriously, considering the tiny and reluctant amount of information coming from the club about the "takeover" and the flat refusal by them to answer the Adver's or the Trust's questions, what do you expect? This is not looking too good is it.....can the Trust Board be a bit proactive in trying to reclaim our club at the earliest possible convenience? Title: Jim Little Post by: The_Plagiarist on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 12:38:23 WE'RE DOOOOOMED :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: Jim Little Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 13:29:45 would Mark D care to comment on this?
Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 13:37:12 Quote from: ron dodgers would Mark D care to comment on this? Quote Without wishing any disrespect to Mark, what's it got to do with him? He doesn't work at the club and isn't a supporter. Furthermore, he has close links to parties that were ignored when the club were looking for investment. And, he left the club under a cloud (Not due to anything he did, I hasten to add!) We can look at this three ways: Positively; Negatively, or ambivalently. I'm pretty optimistic. If they invest money in us and get us promoted, together with sorting out the ground, I'll be well pleased. But don't worry all you desperate doom mongerers, I'm sure you'll find something to worry about even if all this does turn out to be good news.......... Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 15:22:03 Quote from: herthab Quote from: ron dodgers would Mark D care to comment on this? Quote Without wishing any disrespect to Mark, what's it got to do with him? He doesn't work at the club and isn't a supporter. Furthermore, he has close links to parties that were ignored when the club were looking for investment. And, he left the club under a cloud (Not due to anything he did, I hasten to add!) We can look at this three ways: Positively; Negatively, or ambivalently. I'm pretty optimistic. If they invest money in us and get us promoted, together with sorting out the ground, I'll be well pleased. But don't worry all you desperate doom mongerers, I'm sure you'll find something to worry about even if all this does turn out to be good news.......... Title: Jim Little Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 15:27:32 Quote from: red macca Quote from: herthab Quote from: "ron dodgers" would Mark D care to comment on this? Quote Without wishing any disrespect to Mark, what's it got to do with him? He doesn't work at the club and isn't a supporter. Furthermore, he has close links to parties that were ignored when the club were looking for investment. And, he left the club under a cloud (Not due to anything he did, I hasten to add!) We can look at this three ways: Positively; Negatively, or ambivalently. I'm pretty optimistic. If they invest money in us and get us promoted, together with sorting out the ground, I'll be well pleased. But don't worry all you desperate doom mongerers, I'm sure you'll find something to worry about even if all this does turn out to be good news.......... :clap: Title: Jim Little Post by: janaage on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 15:32:38 I'm not prepared to be negative about this until there is something to be negative about.
PS has been given the green light in terms of bringing a couple of his top targets in, that's the first decent news we've had at this club for ages. Let's live in hope for a change. Title: Jim Little Post by: lambourn red on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 15:33:46 Quote from: red macca Quote from: herthab Quote from: "ron dodgers" would Mark D care to comment on this? Quote Without wishing any disrespect to Mark, what's it got to do with him? He doesn't work at the club and isn't a supporter. Furthermore, he has close links to parties that were ignored when the club were looking for investment. And, he left the club under a cloud (Not due to anything he did, I hasten to add!) We can look at this three ways: Positively; Negatively, or ambivalently. I'm pretty optimistic. If they invest money in us and get us promoted, together with sorting out the ground, I'll be well pleased. But don't worry all you desperate doom mongerers, I'm sure you'll find something to worry about even if all this does turn out to be good news.......... well said that man, we could have Roman Abromovich taking us over and some people would still have something to complain about. If the bills get paid, Sturrock gets money to improve the team , the ground get's re-developed (in Swindon) and in the process we get some real talented youngsters from Brazil and Portugal that are put in the shop window for Premier Clubs then to be honest I would not care who was behhind even if it was Osama Bin Laden Title: Jim Little Post by: RobertT on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 15:37:12 if everything you state (bar Bin Laden) is revealed then I think everyone would be optimistic about the future.
I think the fact that a couple of intended actions have been made public (players, CVA, Carson on the way, Holt not knowing if he has a job etc) are good signs sor far. Enough for me to at least have a smile on my face for now. We need the detail on the big things though, the ground, the finances, the board etc. Title: Jim Little Post by: ron dodgers on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 15:48:37 I was merely suggesting that maybe a former CE of the club would like to comment about our new (possible) owners. He may know of them he may not. I would be interested to read what he thought of the situation.
I shall and will remain hopeful that the club will move forward under the new stewardship. Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 16:20:46 Nah. We're all doomed.
:mrgreen: Title: Jim Little Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:22:06 I think things are improvoving. We are semi-doomed, possibly only semi-semi-doomed. Did Jim Little leave Cork because of the bung scandal?
Title: Jim Little Post by: Power to people on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:31:28 He has now been announced as Chairman Designate - on OS
What sort of a title is that, why not either Chairman or CEO..wasn't that Bowden's title though ? Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:34:23 Quote from: "wheretherealredsare" I think things are improvoving. We are semi-doomed, possibly only semi-semi-doomed. Did Jim Little leave Cork because of the bung scandal? Made me smile :D Very subtle. Title: Jim Little Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:41:13 Quote from: "wheretherealredsare" I think things are improvoving. We are semi-doomed, possibly only semi-semi-doomed. Did Jim Little leave Cork because of the bung scandal? BOOM! BOOM! 8) I assume that was a joke - cork - bung. Or was that a serious question? :? Title: Jim Little Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:41:56 I keep wanting to call him Little Jim. From now on, that is his name as far as I'm concerned 8)
Title: Jim Little Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:54:37 For what it's worth,so long as the club stays in Swindon, I'm happy enough.
They'll want an income return (player sales) and capital (property and/or selling the club in x years time) There's nothing much to sell now, and PS has the green light to buy the top targets - Easter, McGoldrick, Holmes...they'l all be getting calls in the next few days. Without this lot, I doubt they would be anywhere near STFC. Yes, the ideal would be someone with a genuine love for football not cash, but how realistic is it that another BP comes along? Not very, and not soon enough. It's done now, and we either like it or lump it. Personally I'd rather enjoy seeing some decent players at the CG. The worry comes from the capital return - and thats the question we need answering asap. I'm sick of worrying. Bring on Luton. Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 17:58:37 Can someone ask him about his time at Cork City as one of the first questions please?? The fans there seem to want a few things answered ...
Title: Jim Little Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:00:56 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Quote from: "wheretherealredsare" I think things are improvoving. We are semi-doomed, possibly only semi-semi-doomed. Did Jim Little leave Cork because of the bung scandal? BOOM! BOOM! 8) I assume that was a joke - cork - bung. Or was that a serious question? :? As serious as the improvoving situation, whatever that means. :? Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:01:02 Quote from: "fatbury" Can someone ask him about his time at Cork City as one of the first questions please?? The fans there seem to want a few things answered ... Fuck 'em. Not interested in Cork City. Interested in his plans here. Title: Jim Little Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:11:15 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "fatbury" Can someone ask him about his time at Cork City as one of the first questions please?? The fans there seem to want a few things answered ... Fuck 'em. Not interested in Cork City. Interested in his plans here. Title: Jim Little Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:14:03 Quote from: "Power to people" He has now been announced as Chairman Designate - on OS What sort of a title is that, why not either Chairman or CEO..wasn't that Bowden's title though ? The OS says on Latest Headlines that the new Chairman is some bloke called Des Ignate. Sounds a bit Portuguese to me. And it seems Little Jim will be collecting the mail. Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:14:45 Quote from: "SwindonTartanArmy" Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "fatbury" Can someone ask him about his time at Cork City as one of the first questions please?? The fans there seem to want a few things answered ... Fuck 'em. Not interested in Cork City. Interested in his plans here. Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:15:59 Quote from: "SwindonTartanArmy" Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "fatbury" Can someone ask him about his time at Cork City as one of the first questions please?? The fans there seem to want a few things answered ... Fuck 'em. Not interested in Cork City. Interested in his plans here. Not short sighted at all. Some think he fucked them over, some don't (Although I would imagine most will dislike him now, as he's fucked off!). A lot of football fans are ignorant of what's going on at their club and just react to rumour and accusation. I would prefer to judge on what he actually did there and his plans for STFC Title: Jim Little Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:18:16 Which is why (and I cant believe I am agreeing with fatters!!!) we want him to tell us about his time at Cork City.
Everyone in the papers keep going on about how much experience these guys have in running football teams yet the only thing I can see so far is some crappy Oirish team. Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:20:29 Dont panic
Watch this space :D Title: Jim Little Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:21:42 Blimey, you're fast!
Title: Jim Little Post by: yeo on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:21:46 Yes and if they were to tell us thier intentions im sure we could all rest easy and all this rumouring would stop.I dont buy that "the internal situations needs to be sorted" all it would take is a press conference or half decent statement.Start as you mean to go on and they have started extremely shadily.Until there is any real information people will speculate.
Title: Jim Little Post by: fatbury on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:22:11 I seriously think his past is relevant ... and I trust that Andy Cryer WILL question him on it ...
Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:26:37 Quote from: "fatbury" I seriously think his past is relevant ... and I trust that Andy Cryer WILL question him on it ... I never said his past wasn't relevant. What I was saying was that we shouldn't read too much into what fans of another club say about someone who is no longer involved with their club. From what I've read, he's an extremely successful businessman with links to a multi national company. Compare that to diamond Mike and he's already way ahead. Title: Jim Little Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:28:04 Seriously then, at what stage do all these people taking over/becoming executives of football clubs have to undergo the FAPP test? Apart from our own situation (which may be completely lillywhite) there has been e.g. Shinawatra thingy at Man. City.
(And Sven of course!) Title: Jim Little Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:29:26 Quote from: "fatbury" I seriously think his past is relevant ... and I trust that Andy Cryer WILL question him on it ... Quite right.....turning the situation round, if Cork City fans woke up tomorrow to discover someone experienced in running an FC, a nice man called Mike, they may well wish to worry about his past. Title: Jim Little Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:41:36 I like the announcement of the OS - He's American - but he used to play our football!
That's okay then :D Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:45:03 His track record is VERY relevant and also what is the reason he is no longer at Cork?
It seems like they were Arkaga's first toe dip in the football pool and Cork have sold a couple of good players to UK high division clubs without re-investing in the squad. So have Cork run out of player assets now? Has Jim Bob learned from experience and sees a player pipeline in the Portuguese linkage a better proposition? I for one am very interested in Cork City and what is happening now. Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:46:18 Quote from: "Rich Pullen" I like the announcement of the OS - He's American - but he used to play our football! That's okay then :D And also ironic seeing as Mickey D's board suggested that the Fans' Consortium investor was "an American" and saying it was a bad thing :? Title: Jim Little Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:48:47 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "Rich Pullen" I like the announcement of the OS - He's American - but he used to play our football! That's okay then :D And also ironic seeing as Mickey D's board suggested that the Fans' Consortium investor was "an American" and saying it was a bad thing :? Yeah - I thought of that too. Certainly got the business credentials... John Hopkins and Harvard is pretty impressive. Obviously how he assists in the operations of STFC is most important. Title: Jim Little Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:49:50 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "Rich Pullen" I like the announcement of the OS - He's American - but he used to play our football! That's okay then :D And also ironic seeing as Mickey D's board suggested that the Fans' Consortium investor was "an American" and saying it was a bad thing :? The irony was not lost on me....Americans should be good on customer care....so perhaps Jim can get his butt along to the Trust meeting. Only a matter of time before Pat Butcher is telling " to have a nice day y'all" in the TE.(if its ever reopened) Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:57:14 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Only a matter of time before Pat Butcher is telling " to have a nice day y'all" in the TE.(if its ever reopened) :shock: Do you mean that Reg? Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 18:58:11 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Only a matter of time before Pat Butcher is telling " to have a nice day y'all" in the TE.(if its ever reopened) :shock: Do you mean that Reg? It'll be open on Saturday. Title: Jim Little Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 19:03:50 Hmm, chairman designate, that was Bowden's title. Does this mean Mr Whippy's out on his arse then?
Title: Jim Little Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 19:06:29 Quote from: "pauld" Hmm, chairman designate, that was Bowden's title. Does this mean Mr Whippy's out on his arse then? Wasn' t Bowden's title something like Joint Chairman Designate....I could see Bowden surviving a cull.....he seemed quite chipper on Tuesday. Title: Jim Little Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 19:09:06 Quote from: "The Moonraker" For what it's worth,so long as the club stays in Swindon, I'm happy enough. The worry comes from the capital return - and thats the question we need answering asap. Well yes and where the revenue streams from any redevelopment go - if they go into the football club, sound. But if we end up with a Kassam-style "I'm building myself a stadium, keeping all the profits and you get to contribute to them by paying me rent, some of which I may or may not choose to drip-feed back into the club until I bugger off leaving you an asset-stripped shell", then there's real cause for worry. However, unless and until we know what the plans are, it's too early to either hang out the bunting or start draping ourselves in sack-cloth and ashes. Cautious optimism and a watching brief until there's cause for concern would seem a sensible way forward. You never know, maybe Jim Little will accept the invitation for Saturday and all will be explained. Title: Jim Little Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 19:11:20 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "pauld" Hmm, chairman designate, that was Bowden's title. Does this mean Mr Whippy's out on his arse then? Wasn' t Bowden's title something like Joint Chairman Designate.... Yes, because he was designate Joint Chairman (with Willy). As Willy's on his way it would seem, seems like we no longer have a joint chairman, designate or otherwise, at best a demotion for Mr Whippy then. Quote I could see Bowden surviving a cull.....he seemed quite chipper on Tuesday. Not if glos was in charge of the hounds :D Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 19:13:43 Quote from: "pauld" maybe Jim Little will accept the invitation for Saturday and all will be explained. If Jim Bob doesn't then we might just get Bowden... Title: Jim Little Post by: pauld on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 20:23:14 Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "pauld" maybe Jim Little will accept the invitation for Saturday and all will be explained. If Jim Bob doesn't then we might just get Bowden... Mr Bowden has not been invited Title: Jim Little Post by: Power to people on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 20:33:39 Quote from: "pauld" Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "pauld" maybe Jim Little will accept the invitation for Saturday and all will be explained. If Jim Bob doesn't then we might just get Bowden... Mr Bowden has not been invited He's probably get fucking linched and strung up....after he puthis credit card behind the bar again :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Title: Jim Little Post by: RobertT on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 20:40:20 can someone just tell me which National teams flag I have to bring along for the next game?
Title: Jim Little Post by: TalkTalk on Thursday, August 16, 2007, 20:43:52 Quote from: "RobertT" can someone just tell me which National teams flag I have to bring along for the next game? Latvia? Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Friday, August 17, 2007, 08:22:50 Quote from: "pauld" Quote from: "TalkTalk" Quote from: "pauld" maybe Jim Little will accept the invitation for Saturday and all will be explained. If Jim Bob doesn't then we might just get Bowden... Mr Bowden has not been invited Title: Jim Little Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, August 17, 2007, 08:25:24 I think you misheard his offer last time Macca. It was a free drink, not three drinks! :wink:
Title: Jim Little Post by: red macca on Friday, August 17, 2007, 08:26:31 ooops
3 triples :D Title: Jim Little Post by: WorcesterRed on Friday, August 17, 2007, 08:55:55 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "fatbury" I seriously think his past is relevant ... and I trust that Andy Cryer WILL question him on it ... I never said his past wasn't relevant. What I was saying was that we shouldn't read too much into what fans of another club say about someone who is no longer involved with their club. From what I've read, he's an extremely successful businessman with links to a multi national company. Compare that to diamond Mike and he's already way ahead. That's like another fan saying 'I'm not gonna read too much into what the Swindon fans say and I don't care what Diamond Mike did at Swindon cos he's involved in my club now'. We've probably always been his second team eh? :roll: Title: Jim Little Post by: Power to people on Friday, August 17, 2007, 13:21:55 Adver reports that Little is set to tell all the staff at the CG their futures at 2pm today
Title: Jim Little Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, August 17, 2007, 13:27:45 ooh can he read palms?
Title: Jim Little Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, August 17, 2007, 13:29:00 Mystic Jim 8)
Title: Jim Little Post by: Foggy on Friday, August 17, 2007, 13:32:03 Quote from: "Samdy Gray" Mystic Jim 8) More like cryptic Jim Title: Jim Little Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, August 17, 2007, 13:32:54 maybe he'll do Ralphy's tarot reading.
Title: Jim Little Post by: adje on Saturday, August 18, 2007, 10:04:09 I miss Willie Carson and his endearing chuckle
Title: Jim Little Post by: lebowski on Saturday, August 18, 2007, 10:17:18 i want another figurehead chairman :(
Title: Jim Little Post by: herthab on Saturday, August 18, 2007, 19:55:19 Quote from: "WorcesterRed" Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "fatbury" I seriously think his past is relevant ... and I trust that Andy Cryer WILL question him on it ... I never said his past wasn't relevant. What I was saying was that we shouldn't read too much into what fans of another club say about someone who is no longer involved with their club. From what I've read, he's an extremely successful businessman with links to a multi national company. Compare that to diamond Mike and he's already way ahead. That's like another fan saying 'I'm not gonna read too much into what the Swindon fans say and I don't care what Diamond Mike did at Swindon cos he's involved in my club now'. We've probably always been his second team eh? :roll: Why would fans of another team give two fucks about what I think? And where have I put anything about him being a fan (2nd team or otherwise?) Your comments are like yourself................. Pointless. Title: Jim Little Post by: ron dodgers on Saturday, August 18, 2007, 19:57:28 was ist los?
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