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This can only be the work of the new Consortium IMHO.

This begs the following questions ;

Is the investment further advanced than we were told or imagined

OR

Is this a pre-cursor to any investment taking place

If the answer to either/both of those is "YES" then we are clearly in for interesting times.

Gentlemen, the clearout will begin in earnest

Brevett is an interesting appontment what with his qpr connections...

he certainly is. we shall wait and see further developments.

I guess we are thinking along the same lines, too good to be true isn't it?

Yes

I don't understand :?
Someone explain.

Would I be crazy bringing Devlin into the equation what with QPR connection?

I think Fred meant that yes that would be too good to be true. I think these investors are new.

Brevett = Strong QPR ties

Power = Strong QPR ties

Power possibly unsuccessful in bid for club with fans consortium

New consortium announced that looks to be successful

Brevett joins



2 + 2 = 5

I think the suggestion was that Brevett = Power.

But Power wouldn't need a go between as Sturrock would go directly to him or through Devlin if that was to come off I would imagine.

You thick bastard.  :roll:  :mrgreen:

People reading too much into it methinks.

Would be cool though.

Stop being cryptic and do some work, I think there's a Tampon Malfunction in Section C

The blueprint is clear to me:


http://www.nobell.org/~gjm/nobell/images/sw02.jpg

No, we're saying it's not Bill Power :roll:

its not its the lilt man, along with mr malibu

FWIW, and so as to avoid any confusion/rumours etc - Bill is not a mystery figure behind the so-called "New Consortium", although he has said on the record some weeks ago that if the club do attract new investors he would be very happy to sit down and talk with them. But the Brevett thing is not linked to Bill.

umm where's their blueprint then...have I missed something, I thought all that had been done is to appoint Brevett ??

This just smacks of external influences P2P.

Why would the current board appoint another Director to add to the already top heavy structure when a possible take over is just weeks away, and if it is the current boards decision, the why go for a sporting director when the club has never gone down that route in the past ?

My guess is the fact that Brevitt acting as a direct link between the new consortium and the team would be the start of there intentions to be involved perhaps a blue print and Fred is drawing links between this.  Personally I felt a valid point, an interesting appointment yes, more interestingly maybe a signal of intent to be heavily involved.

exactly right Fred. it does say something about him joining for when the new consortium takes over on the OS as well

Ok fair enough see what your driving at Fred, I just wonder why Brevett though, he has no experience in that type of role and only retired from playing last season I beleive, and if he wants to get his badges obviously does not intend to pursue this type of role, as I said in the other thread this is the job of a CEO  - what is happening to Starnes ?!

sunburn?

I refer the honourable gentleman to my previous remark

Not 100% correct this is a fairly new position to football as a whole, prime example being Chelsea appointing that Avram Grant who will be undertaking a very similar role acting as a link between the team and the boardroom reporting to the chief executive.

Frank Arnesen at Spurs also

Also on the inexperienced people isn't Steve McManaman doing a similar role for the consortium trying to take over at Birmingham?

Did you make that deliberately sound Dutch ? - if so, bravo !

I thank you

Arnesen is at Chelsea

He is now, but started off as Sporting Director at Spurs

Righto. All very interesting, but my head hurts.

What is the difference between a Sporting Director and Director of Football then?

But these people are experienced, not just inthe game but also in coaching, Brevett is not.

Although maybe at our level that is the best we can attract  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Strange thing to announce though before even due dilligence is completed, why do the new potential owners insist on staying as shadowy figures, why don't they come out and explain what their intentions are ?

Any links between Brevett & Dunwoody ?

Just heard Sturrock's interview on radio and he was saying about how Brevett is part of the consortium and the new "investors" have lot's of other buisnesses so they will have Rufus as the link man

Rufus will also be heavily involved with the little known Swindon Town bowls, table tennis and kabaddi clubs as well as the football side. He has been given a brief to significantly raise their profile so that we can compete with other, more famous sporting clubs such as Barcelona, Real Madrid and Sporting Club de Portugal (Sporting Lisbon). This is why he is going to be known as Sporting Director as opposed to Director of Football

I hope this helps to clarify the situation.

Absolutely  :soapy tit wank:

Im afraid the board are going to have to start doing a bit more explaining because as a fan this getting silly now,we dont even know if our debts have been paid but they seem to be putting players and new imployees on long contracts surley by us not having payed the cva payment would stop us from doing this not that im disaproveing anything its just we need to be explained how there getting to do this under the circumstances.

Is the "New Investors Blueprint" similar to the well-known five-year plan, or is it something in somebody's head?  By the way, where will dear old Speedway Mike fit into the new structure?

I dont think he will

Good, cunt never rung me!!

That is my own personal opinion mind, and should not be taken as the views of TrustSTFC or The TEF Peoples Front

 :wink:

Liar - I thought you spoke for the TEF Liberation front who's main aim is the destruction of a certain Advisor

You disapoint me I am thoroughly disgusted with you  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Its all propaganda P2P

Disagree mate i think we can look forward to the future

Well first and foremost we don't know what the size of the investment is. If it's a lot then they can cover any overspend on wages/transfer fees etc. We also don't know what AA has said to the crediors regarding the CVA. I'm sure things are probably being dealt with on that side of things. A little patience is needed from the fans

Well said Rich

Cheers rich

I'm more optimistic that the 'new' consortium actually exists now, otherwise why else would these new appointments be viable ?

 Regrettably it looks less likely that BP will be part of the future, but perhaps there could be a link up further down the line when the new organisation is in place ?

Can I just say Nev that (albeit still a little confused why they never sat down and talked to us), at the end of the day the most important thing is THE FUTURE OF STFC !.

Now, if the investment is clean and viable, contractually sound, and of the value that can secure our ambitions long term then we should all breath a sigh of relief and put a bloody smile on our faces again.

Its never ever easy being a Town fan, and this demonstrates that.

Clearly, in agreeance with you, there has been committment already, via pledges, so the deal is that close.

Please dont anybody write Bill off as yet, who is to say that he may want to talk to these people (and if he feels that he can work with them, and the top level structure is sound), possibly consider his options.

At the end of the day, I get a strong feeling that

THE KING IS DEAD................................LONG LIVE THE KING !

Amen to that Fred.

Hmmm I cant help but have the feeling its out of the frying pan into the fire.Obviously ive nothing to base it on bar my normal pesimism.

This is STFC and every silver lining has a cloud - FACT!

I think a lot of peoples patience (myself included) is wearing thin though, their making these appointments yet still won't tell us who they are. Until we know who they are and what there plans are it makes it very difficult to be confident or happy with what is happening. We've been patient for 6 years and quite frankly I'm sick of this whole waiting game, if only they'd give us names then we might actually all unite to one single cause.......but of course that would be far to simple  :|

Spot on gloss

I dont blame any of you for being fed up of waiting. All i'm saying is that the best thing for all of us to do is to stay patient for another few weeks and i am sure we will all know what is going on by then (or at least i hope). After all we have been waiting for months of end to hear any positive news with the fans consoritum. It wouldn't harm any of us to wait a little longer.

Agreed Rich, but I just hope that it all works out in the end!!  I cannot help thinking that if they get to see the true state of the club they might just run away and then where will be!!  Also, my main worry is that the slimey greek will still be involved in some way, smooth things over, and two years down the line we are back in trouble.  If it is totally new owners, Dunwoody have nothing to do with it, then the good times can roll!!

I know where your coming from but they could at least give us an idea of their plans and what they propose to do. If they go through their entire 8 week timescale that'll mean it drags on into the start of the new season and we still might be none the wiser. I would love to start the season being able to focus solely on the football but that is becoming increasingly unlikely. I just really don't like all this secrecy and I dread them being 'silent' partners who are hidden in the background and we remain unaware who they are.

I don't get how they are appointing people without actually completing the deal yet.

It was reported on RS this morning that the deal may be done with the foreign investors as early as this afternoon or it may take another 7 days, they are thrashing out trying to get the best deal at the moment, the proposals as they are is for the new consortium to take a 75% stake with the current regime keeping the other 25% - it was said though there is still a chance it could collapse.

I can only assume it is 75% of the football club and the holding co, with SSW keeping a minority stake and allowing him to put someone on the board, still waiting to hear who the new investors are and what their plans are for OUR football club though...the silence if nearly as good as the present lot.

Surely though if the current regime claim Power has 1.2m worth of shares they have to discuss it with him before they can sell...even if it was a loan it still means he has a hefty stake and can't be ignored, unless they pay him off though !!

can someone remind me what number "False Dawn" we are on now??

Hmm, if it's 75% and they want to have us believe they were not telling porkies, then that must leave them about 2% if POwer has the rest with Emmell.

More likely is the winding-up of the current holding co??

75% sounds good to me, it would certainly show why moves are being made that are at utter odds with what we'd expect even from Mikey.  The worrying thing though is what do "THEY" want to do, as I will now have to call "THEM".  PLus, what kind of appointment is a recently retired footballer into a role of Sporting Director, especially one from Oxford.  The longer I mull that one over the odder it seems.

Maverick seems conspicuous by his absence given the interrogation of the Trust/Consortium's proposals.

Come on Mav, let's hear your questionning of the current takeover proposals.

:nod:

Eere, Maverick, can't you begin asking questions about the Consortium now we know one of the link men associated with them?  Brevett should have his hands full in the next few days responding I guess.

Mav is in full voice on ThisIs :)

The deal is already signed, it's been signed since they announced it.
Thats why they are able to make the appointments already.

But he keeps harping on about privacy and not knowing who they are.  Brevett has been publicly paraded as the mouthpiece for them, so he should get a move on now and begin the onslaught.

....but he was more than happy to come on here earlier in the year to ask all sorts of questions of the Trust/Consortium proposals. Not at all a witch-hunt on my part, I just like to see fairness and balance and given the number of unanswered questions that we all now have, and given the number of questions Mav previously asked, I'd have thought that he'd be in his element.

 :shrug:

exactly, they've begun breaking cover by announcing an appointment for them.

25 percent of the current regime is 25 percent too much

How do they get 25%, the new lot 75% and Power and Emmell 23%.

Are we breaking mathematical rules?

I dont think they intend letting Power and Emmell have even 1 percent somehow!

100% went out of fashion years ago.

You often here people say they will give 150% towards this cause and that. All that really means is just 100% spread out a bit more to give everyone a fare share. :soapy tit wank:

If this 75% / 25% split stuff is true pehaps BP /PE are going to get their £1.2m back as part of the deal?

Sounds as if we will be seeing the end of the current lot bar the Wills family who will probably keep 25% of their current holding. As for BP/PE i would assume that either the club still thinks it's a loan or that the new consortium will pay them the money back

i predict 25% of it is bollocks

It's simple.  Sandy adds 17.5% for the VAT and then Bowden (remember him?) adds another 20% for 'goodwill' - making 137.5%.

If you then deduct the new owner's 75%, the current rabble's 25% and Bill P/Phil E's 23% you're left with 14.5%...which then, due to the wonders of financial engineering, magically disappears.

Could they not do a shares rights and issue new shares in the company that these new investors snap up thus reducing the amonut that Bill & Phil own.

Could there be some sort of financial engineering going on ?