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Title: Gills Scum Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 15, 2007, 22:35:30 Iffy Onoura :o
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/g/gillingham/6758481.stm Title: Gills Scum Post by: swindon_chick on Friday, June 15, 2007, 22:37:37 Good luck to him. Always like and thought he had a very very tough job here.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: yeo on Friday, June 15, 2007, 22:38:05 Good for him glad to see him back in a job.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, June 15, 2007, 23:02:26 Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines
Title: Gills Scum Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 05:56:59 Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines I agree entirely with your comments Title: Gills Scum Post by: Arriba on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 06:34:57 Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines I agree entirely with your comments i disagree entirely.iffy inherited a shit team on the slide.then lost our best player and goal scorer.he was given fuck all to invest in players. he was ambitious and took the job here,but i think he made a mistake in doing so. but iffy is a top fella and i wish him all the best Title: Gills Scum Post by: kaufman on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 08:41:21 he bought peacock to the club, give the guy a break
Title: Gills Scum Post by: Bennett on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 09:56:24 i always liked iffy, he was always going to return to gills though. fair play
Title: Gills Scum Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 09:58:03 Good luck Iffy.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:04:14 i liked him too. not a great manager but inheirited a shit squad and had to rely on woeful loan players - which he was responsible for bringing in, to be fair - but he was a good bloke.
good luck to him Title: Gills Scum Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:11:50 Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines I agree entirely with your comments i disagree entirely.iffy inherited a shit team on the slide.then lost our best player and goal scorer.he was given fuck all to invest in players. he was ambitious and took the job here,but i think he made a mistake in doing so. but iffy is a top fella and i wish him all the best Fair enough he inherited a shit team, but he still had 37 odd games to turn our season round. His inexperience cost us, as his tactics in many games were shocking. He lacked any sort of man motivation, and other teams like the Franchise and Hartlepool seemed up for the fight of relegation, whilst Swindon didn't have that fire or zest in their belly to fight to stay up. If Paul Sturrock was in charge instead of Iffy in that period, then im pretty certain Sturrock would have kept us up. Also, if Iffy remained in charge last season, we would still be in league 2 Title: Gills Scum Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:12:51 we went on one hell of a good run under iffy, people seem to forget that.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:26:02 We bottled it at the end of that season.
That included the players - it wasn't just Iffy. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:38:48 Quote from: "sonic youth" we went on one hell of a good run under iffy, people seem to forget that. Yeh, but we went on one hell of a shit run at the end of the season which only saw us win 2 games out of the last 13 we played. Sadly within that run, we played many fellow relgation candidates, and managed to lose or draw to them at home. Lets not forget we also lost 7-1 to Forest in that run. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Bennett on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:42:03 Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "sonic youth" we went on one hell of a good run under iffy, people seem to forget that. Yeh, but we went on one hell of a shit run at the end of the season which only saw us win 2 games out of the last 13 we played. Sadly within that run, we played many fellow relgation candidates, and managed to lose or draw to them at home. Lets not forget we also lost 7-1 to Forest in that run. you've posted this in response to SY's comment and completely disregarded talktalk's valid point, between them they have hit the nail on the head. stop beins silly Title: Gills Scum Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:49:58 Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines I agree entirely with your comments i disagree entirely.iffy inherited a shit team on the slide.then lost our best player and goal scorer.he was given fuck all to invest in players. he was ambitious and took the job here,but i think he made a mistake in doing so. but iffy is a top fella and i wish him all the best Fair enough he inherited a shit team, but he still had 37 odd games to turn our season round. His inexperience cost us, as his tactics in many games were shocking. He lacked any sort of man motivation, and other teams like the Franchise and Hartlepool seemed up for the fight of relegation, whilst Swindon didn't have that fire or zest in their belly to fight to stay up. If Paul Sturrock was in charge instead of Iffy in that period, then im pretty certain Sturrock would have kept us up. Also, if Iffy remained in charge last season, we would still be in league 2 MK and Hartlepool still went down that season. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:50:34 The players bottled it because they lacked any kind of leader to guide or prepare them for the relegation battle. Whether that was because Iffy was a poor manager, or because the players did not listen and respect Ify as a manager - well im unsure.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:53:24 maybe it was because they were shit
Title: Gills Scum Post by: tans on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 10:55:46 i blame the loanees - i mean how could colin heath, chris mcphee, big trev, and patrick collins possibly save us?
Title: Gills Scum Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 14:42:25 Onuora was shite end of
Title: Gills Scum Post by: yeo on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 14:56:48 Wasnt it effectivly Iffys youth team that went on to win that cup thing?
Not saying he didnt have his faults but he was chucked in at the deep end and had the guts to give it a try under seriously difficult circumstances and he didnt do that for personal financial reasons either. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 15:04:13 Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines I agree entirely with your comments i disagree entirely.iffy inherited a shit team on the slide.then lost our best player and goal scorer.he was given fuck all to invest in players. he was ambitious and took the job here,but i think he made a mistake in doing so. but iffy is a top fella and i wish him all the best Fair enough he inherited a shit team, but he still had 37 odd games to turn our season round. His inexperience cost us, as his tactics in many games were shocking. He lacked any sort of man motivation, and other teams like the Franchise and Hartlepool seemed up for the fight of relegation, whilst Swindon didn't have that fire or zest in their belly to fight to stay up. If Paul Sturrock was in charge instead of Iffy in that period, then im pretty certain Sturrock would have kept us up. Also, if Iffy remained in charge last season, we would still be in league 2 Sturrock would have made the play-offs, made a profit on players, and helped with painting the stand. Iffy seemed to be too close to the players, and when contracts came up once we reached 16th, they seemed to give up. Title: Gills Scum Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 15:18:44 Iffy was thrown into a job he wasn't ready for. He only got it in the first place because the board didn't want to pay out and Reeves was wheel chair bound. Doesn't mean he wasn't a top bloke and doesn't mean he couldn't make a good manager in the future.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: tans on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 15:19:23 Quote from: "Crozzer" Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "arriba" Quote from: "Dachauer" Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines I agree entirely with your comments i disagree entirely.iffy inherited a shit team on the slide.then lost our best player and goal scorer.he was given fuck all to invest in players. he was ambitious and took the job here,but i think he made a mistake in doing so. but iffy is a top fella and i wish him all the best Fair enough he inherited a shit team, but he still had 37 odd games to turn our season round. His inexperience cost us, as his tactics in many games were shocking. He lacked any sort of man motivation, and other teams like the Franchise and Hartlepool seemed up for the fight of relegation, whilst Swindon didn't have that fire or zest in their belly to fight to stay up. If Paul Sturrock was in charge instead of Iffy in that period, then im pretty certain Sturrock would have kept us up. Also, if Iffy remained in charge last season, we would still be in league 2 Sturrock would have made the play-offs. Are you sure with the crap sqaud we had? Title: Gills Scum Post by: herthab on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 15:23:15 He comes across as a nice bloke and he can talk a good game, but his inexperience cost us imo.
He doesn't appear to be a great motivator or leader and his loan signings were garbage. That said, I hope he's successful at gillingham, as I believe he tried his best for us. It's a shame it wasn't good enough................................... Title: Gills Scum Post by: Stef Troll on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 16:07:12 Quote from: "herthab" He comes across as a nice bloke and he can talk a good game, but his inexperience cost us imo. He doesn't appear to be a great motivator or leader and his loan signings were garbage. That said, I hope he's successful at gillingham, as I believe he tried his best for us. It's a shame it wasn't good enough................................... Spot on comment, top post ! Title: Gills Scum Post by: TalkTalk on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 21:31:18 Quote from: "StefPol" Quote from: "herthab" He comes across as a nice bloke and he can talk a good game, but his inexperience cost us imo. He doesn't appear to be a great motivator or leader and his loan signings were garbage. That said, I hope he's successful at gillingham, as I believe he tried his best for us. It's a shame it wasn't good enough................................... Spot on comment, top post ! Ditto. Well said. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Fred Elliot on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 21:33:32 I liked Iffy
He was shiney Title: Gills Scum Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 21:40:27 What's not to like about a black Scotsman with a scouse accent? He was fucking ace.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, June 16, 2007, 22:01:57 I liked Iffy, and the fact that 1000 people were stood at Ashton gate after we got relegated, singing his name.... that said a lot
I agree he made mistakes but we got relegated because the players weren't good enough, the leadership wasn't good enough, and the finances weren't good enough. Title: Gills Scum Post by: millom red on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 03:58:02 Quote from: "StefPol" Great news for Swindon. He was the main reason why we got relegated, and hopefully his shitness will be passed onto Gillingham in their daily training routines Thats a bit harsh....i wish him well. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Rich Pullen on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 10:20:09 Quote from: "tans" chris mcphee and had Iffy stayed McPhee would have stayed too! Along with the arrival of oap Michael Meaker (possibly) :| Onuora was a poor manager... but he hardly had the tools to give himself a fair chance to prove this wasn't the case. Title: Gills Scum Post by: janaage on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 13:08:55 Iffy was fucking crap, clueless, it was like watching scenes from t"he office" sitting behind the dug out in the Arkells watching, cringing at Iffy's total lack of creativity, tactics and general management skills.
And who gives a shit if he brought Peacock to the club, fair enough LP has done ok since joining but he's hardly a legendary figure, he's a goal shy battler that's all. Title: Gills Scum Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 13:18:06 I do think Kingy would have kept the side in league 1 and Iffy didn't cut the mustard, but the playing squad was clearly to blame and getting in any decent players for the budget we must have had would have been impossible.
Not ot mention the whole Ron Atkinson fiasco that he had to deal with and I wouldn't mind betting he had to do as he was told behind the scenes with most matters. Title: Gills Scum Post by: janaage on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 14:12:33 The way Iffy interacted with the players meant he was never gonna get us out of trouble. Being mates with the players is not the way to manage - by that I mean going out on the piss with the players after a defeat on a Saturday is not the best way of gaining respect.
Title: Gills Scum Post by: glos_robin on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 14:54:37 Quote from: "simon pieman" I do think Kingy would have kept the side in league 1 and Iffy didn't cut the mustard, but the playing squad was clearly to blame and getting in any decent players for the budget we must have had would have been impossible. Not ot mention the whole Ron Atkinson fiasco that he had to deal with and I wouldn't mind betting he had to do as he was told behind the scenes with most matters. We'd lost 7 in a row and hadn't even looked like gettin a point though, King had assembled a mare of a team including loan players, if he'd stayed in charge personally I think we'd of been down by Christmas and he's of alienated another few thousand of our fans. Don't forget he also had gowt for the last few weeks so wasn't even attending many training sessions Title: Gills Scum Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 17:19:11 Quote from: "janaage" The way Iffy interacted with the players meant he was never gonna get us out of trouble. Being mates with the players is not the way to manage - by that I mean going out on the piss with the players after a defeat on a Saturday is not the best way of gaining respect. Exactly. Iffy had zero clout. He was a complete walkover. While that team was pretty rubbish, they shouldnt have been relegated, and that was because they was never any rollickings for half arsed performances. Half arsed training. Please to God we never appoint another back room coach as manager. Sheer stupidity/custcotting hiring him in the first place. |