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So do you really believe the future is all rosy, or is it just more spin from the Board. You decide.

Shite poll.

Where's 'I Don't Know'?

Simple. You either believe it or you don't.  No fence sitting please.

If I run a poll saying Would you like a million pounds for nowt, I'll be sure to stick in a 'I don't know' option for you.  :soapy tit wank:

I believe that I DON'T FUCKING KNOW!!

It's not fence sitting you penis, I've got no evidence one way or the other.

WTF??? Who mentioned evidence? Jesus its just a simple question! Chill man. All I wanted to know is whether you belive in the investor or not? If thats too hard to comprehend for you then don't answer it!

I believe in the possibility of an investor.

I also believe in the possibility that it's all board bullshit.

I opted for choice 3............

I think there could be, if there is i dont think the talks are as far along as they are trying to have us believe. That said, i opted for no.

You shouldn't have given an option 3, any fencesitters can fuck off and join Dell Boy and Maverick on thisis. Then again you shouldn't have given an option 1 seeing as all this mystery investor story is complete and utter BULLSHIT.

For the record the correct answer is "NO of course I don't bloody believe there is a mystery investor you silly twat."

i think there is one

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:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Fuck you.

I have the right to an opinion of my own.

Not on this point you don't. :mrgreen:

fucking hell  :shock:  chill!!

 :mrgreen:

ooohh i love a bit of anger

I tend to get a bit pissed off when I'm told what I should think.

But it's all good :D

Well you fucking definitely shouldn't be thinking it's all good.

Without wishing to offend.

Fuck off you twat :D

You weren't thinking at all when you wrote that.

You're boring me now............................................

That's not what you think.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: Bastard!

Easy guys, chill.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, lets just leave it there.

I am fucking chilled!

He's on a wind up and I'm playing along :D

Rumbled :mrgreen:

I don't know exactly who you are but I love you! :oops:

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Of course there's an investor. How could anyone think otherwise? I mean, are you saying you don't believe our esteemed board of directors? :roll:

After reading the qpr thread i fucking hope we have got a investor

Indeed. I don't reckon we have though.

I'd be only to happy to be proved wrong.

Pigs will fly before this mystery investor is unveiled.

I believe for every drop of rain that falls a flowere grows, not too sure on the investor though

You poetic bastard

I thought you wre leaving the green alone Macca!!! :shock:
 :soapy tit wank:

It brings the poetry out

There is an investor FACT.

Rightio Dell oy, whatever you say  :-))(

So who then?  And on what terms and how much?

If you say "FACT" then share it.

I thought Dell said it was someone whose name can be made from the following anagram....

Aimon Sarber

The club already knocked this on the head, so it can't be true...:)

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I believe there is an investor, though the level and terms of investment and how close it is to fruition is anybodies guess.

Here is why I think it:


Andronikou is in the Adver today stating that whilst the club are in negotiations then he has the remit to extend the CVA deadline. I have no idea if this is a carte blanche, or whether he would need to seek approval. But to call for winding up would not get the creditors there money..

I'll admit Andronikou was shakier that a Bob Holt stick at the club fans forum, but he would not lie about things in this manner because it would be professional suicide.

Now it is possible that he has been given duff info from the club and is acting on it. But for the club to also spin that same lie to Luggy would result in a public lynching if it was ever found out to be untrue.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. The worst possible outcome would be for the club to secure enough investment to ward off the takeover if it means the present incumbants remaining in charge. We need a clean break.

I've been wrong plenty of times too :)

oh no not dell boy

Rightio DB

Tell me this if you are so in the know

Is the new saviour of STFC prepared to fund the imminent court case, then pay both the award (£1.2 mill) AND Bills legal fees ?

So are you suggesting we may need to go bust before we can re-build. What are the reprocussions of not paying this CVA? Will our league position be removed? SO MANY QUESTIONS! :shock:

I have never quoted Simon Arber, that was RobertT on ThisIs, saying that I believe the board dossed that as rubbish to take the heat off, in my opinion it is Simon Arber.
Batch, I felt the same as you, when Andronikou said he had the information in his hands about the new investor in his statement five weeks ago, I still believe the same.
I have also spoken to a Swindon Town employee, he refused to name the mystery investor but confirmed 'definitely' that talks were taking place and very close to a done deal.

 :soapy tit wank:  :soapy tit wank: Promise I will only pop in now and again.

Pardon me for being persistently cynical Dell, but they would say that, wouldn't they?

Dell Boy

Please answer my question

i spoke to a homeless man who assured me the end was nigh.

Im glad you have joined this forum as i could not always say what i wanted to say on thisis due to the amount of kids on their.

FUCK OFF YOU RETARDED SHIT STIRRING CUNT IF THERE IS A INVESTOR JUST SAY WHO THE FUCK IT IS.

now come back when your cock can touch your ass so i can then tell you to go fuck yourself

You are so sexy when you talk dirty :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

And you will always be awanker no matter how you talk

edit *i have changed it from cunt to wanker as cunts are useful

What court case? Thought that was all talk, nothing happened yet, only minutes away a week ago!!!

This is going to be fun on here, maybe I might post every day :soapy tit wank:

you won't be.

dont fucking bother - prick

Just answer the fucking question, there WILL be a court case

You wont answer it for one simple fact

YOU FUCKING CAN'T

What banning me after 7 posts Sonic for what, if you must then do it, would be a popular decision by the looks of it.

ANSWER THE QUESTION PLEASE

But there isn't a court case so whats your point.
If Bill Power does eventually decide to take them to court it will depend on the outcome of the courts, so until then how can anyone answer your question.

you should be a politician, you seem rather adept at avoiding questions.

look at it hypothetically, if there is a court case then is the new investor prepared to cover costs and any other possibly costs incurred?

Stop skirting the issue

When the court case happens, will the new investor be happy to fund it, and when the club loses, pay the award and Bill's legal fees ?

How much plainer do you want me to put it ?

You wont give a straight forward answer to a straight forward question because you cant.

So stop coming on here spouting shit about things you clearly know fuck all about

So why do you need an answer from me, you know the answer.

FE - this is not a takeover, the current board will still be in place only with more money to play with.
It will not be the new investor who pays out but Swindon Town FC.
That should be obvious to such an informed man as yourself.

give him 5 mins.. he has got to go and ask maverick the answer to that sonic

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i think dell boy is special needs anyhow

Wasn't Maverick banned from here?
Wonder how that happened, probably got right under your skin.

Are you Bob Holt?

no yet more misinformed bullshit from your mouth... we just hounded him out

this thread is boring...where's ralphy?

But the club will only be paying out with the money that this investor puts in.

Is he happy for that to be undertaken ?

I would not be

£900 k - CVA (dont give me all this shit about a renegotiation - Andronikou is in cloud cukoo land)
£1.2 m - BP
c £300 k - STFC Legal costs
c £300 k - BP Legal costs

So thats £2.7 mill even before anything goes into the infastructure of the club.

Nah, aint gonna happen mate

nope, he's still here and often reads. i get on with him quite well despite our disagreements.

Maverick is not banned and has never been banned, and still posts reguarly.

Something else you know fuck all about before opening your mouth

You forgot the INTEREST to be paid to BP if it is a loan.

Diamandis will take this to court no matter what the court costs will be imo, if he concedes to Bill Power his position could become very weak.

Read on the ThisIs that Maverick was banned from this site,  by the way how many times do you use the word 'fuck' in one day Fred.

Quite a fucking lot I'd imagine

 :mrgreen:

Think you are right there. Diadamdis is remember, the b'stard who promised that he'd take the club down with him

maverick is not banned and never has been. as i said, i've met maverick and although we may disagree on many things, he's a good bloke.

unlike yourself, who hides bhind the anonymity of the internet stirring shit and dodging simple questions, hopping from one side to the other and generally not having a clue.

if you've got anything interesting to say, hurry up and say it so i can ban you before the cricket starts.

are you a buisness man ?

Nothing of interest Sonic, so hit the button.

Sonic wont ban you for no reason dell.. He does not like it when people cannot be bothered to look into the facts before slating peoples opinions

Sorry, but who have I slated? Pot Kettle and Black. :(

I am going on posts on thisis..

What is your position on the trust again ??

how many trust meetings you attended

Right, see where your coming from.
I do not support the Trust/Consortium

Thought I'd buck the trend by pointing out that dell's bang on the the money there, IMHO. To court and beyond if need be - Mikey D has made it amply clear he'll take the club down in flames rather than concede control willingly. And he does have a strong track record in taking businesses down in flames

Time to call his bluff.

Or more likely SSW's...

Dell we had this exact exchange on thisis last week about the 'investor' and you wouldn't give me a straight answer then either.
Merely talking to a club employee hardly makes it a fact, for all we know it was probably the club cleaner who'd read a newspaper article.

What are your opinions on todays newspaper article then Dell, are you in full support of the club slagging off fans through Andronikou then? You moan about people insulting you and criticise the abuse thrown at Diamandis and co, but I don't see you criticising the boards attitude...

Mav posted on here just recently, so maybe he's just attention seeking again.

Don't have me on this but I don't think BP is charging the club any interest on the loan (well,he probably haven't received any).

If you believe it was the cleaner then OK thats your opinion.
Andronikou and the current board of Swindon Town treat the Trust/Consortium with contempt. I wonder why?
He has given a timescale this time of the end of June, so lets see what happens, a man in his position surely can't start spouting about a new investor unless there is something pretty close to the truth just around the corner.
Like many others Glos you see the Trust/Consortium as the only option and it is probably, no definitely the best option for Swindon Town FC, trouble is they are the buyers and not the sellers and the sellers dont want them, so I believe it will never happen.
So take your blinkers off, those in control will fight tooth and nail to stay in control. The Consortium is imo history.

Ace DB has been telling us for 7 months or so, with great certainty there is an investor.   Now we know why.....because someone at the club told him  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

It's not a cleaner though Reg, so that leaves..... the groundsman, receptionist and club shop staff. I'm sure they all have access to really accurate info then  :roll:

 The timescale  fits in with the arrrival on the scene of a a man of vision,  one who has plans in his head.

I fear the game is over for the consortium as the board are never going to sell to bill power/consortium or anyone else for that matter, diamandis is going to try and take this club down, i'd love that guy to lose control of this club, he just loves taking businesse's down.

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: True, if he is the 'sauce' then DB would be VERY stupid to believe him as he doesn't generally get much right

Very good, whats your next move then Reg and Glos? Are the Consortium any closer to taking over the club than say last January, the answer is no.

Nobody wants this current board including myself, the trouble is they are there and the Consortium are not and never will be.

Now that is not a rumour, that is a fact.

Is it a fact though Dell, can you see into the future, if so what will the lottery numbers be tonight?

So who's your source about the investor then Dell, what position at the club do they occupy?

You STILL have not answered my question Dell

Im getting bored of you now

Lets see what happens Glos.
I have already promised to pay £70 to the Trust Players Fund if the mystery investor comes or not only a couple of weeks with bets with you and another, your part of the bet was £20, would you like to treble it to £60 or maybe you would like to raise it even higher?

oh no hes back again

Fred, I thought I had, give me the question again.

how exactly is that a fact?

it's your fucking opinion and nothing more, nothing less. i think it's clear how little your opinion is worth around here.

oh and you can stick your 'bets' up your arse as well. don't you have a luxury villa in greece to crawl under?

Agreed

Although such a self proclaimed successful businessman as Dell might be the investor  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

dell boy -  :fatbury:

:wanker:

i couldn't afford a cheap holiday.

now fuck off to your villa and leave those of us capable of sensible discussion alone, eh? at least maverick is willing to respond to questions posed instead of dodging them like a two-bit wannabe politician.

Dell will be on thisis later I bet crying to everyone about the abuse he received on here

Wouldn't invest in loss causes thank you very much.

Really, doubt it Glos, there again seen you off enough times with your tail between your legs. :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Dell Boy, just fucking do one please.

Thanks.

   Its your opinion actually....to which you are perfectly entitled.

   My next move will be the same as my last....ultimately, it will be the Trust that saves our club, as its only the fans that have the passion to do so.

   Sooner or later this Board will go...it may come about through a nastier form of protest, but they're on borrowed time.

Oh I'm sorry I shouldn't insult your obvious business nous, when will we see you on the UK rich list then?

Corr, you guys stick together don't you!!!!
By popular request tonight I will leave with this passing comment. :fu:, speak to you all later in the week.

Just for Dell as he is too lazy to read back through the posts

Yeah OK Dell obviously

Cheerio, close the door on the way out.

respond to fred's question before you leave.

And you wonder why you get insulted...

Go and report back to Mr Whippy...and mines a '99 !!!

Twister!!

d'ya wanna flake n tha, luv?

the £1.2million is the key takeover issue. if the courts confirm that there is unsatisfactory evidence to prove it was shares, then the club will owe BP that money.

in that instance, BP will demand immediate repayment plus interest. the club won't be able to pay, so, to save another court case BP will knock that amount off the value of the offer he will make to SSW for the club.

now, the reason the NDA hasn't been signed by BP is because the club want to install a clause into the NDA that signing it means BP accepts the £1.2million was for shares. the question is, why have they insisted on this clause? my first guess would be because they don't have any other legally binding paperwork to prove it was for shares.

the first court case won't be until july at the very earliest, which is after the CVA deadline has elapsed, so we have a bit of a problem there.

what should be applauded though is that BP waited until the season has finished before beginning legal proceedings, if he didn't have the club's best interests at heart then he would have done this when promotion was still in the balance.

I could not have put that better myself

I bet it wont be even listed for trial until back end of this year.

This will not be heard by a District/Circuit judge sitting at County Court.

Corporate claims this size normally get heard at the High Court

...so we need to hope that the obnoxious gentleman "running" the CVA is successful in renegotiating, and hope to god that we don't lose 10 points in the process!

either that or it somehow gets paid off in full.

Any court will not liquidate the company if someone can demostrate a viable rescue package to the benefit of the creditors

THAT IS FACT !!!!!

We are no closer because dopey bollocks like yourself wont take your head out your mouth(ass) and will try and argue the toss and just make things difficult

Blimey you lot really hate Dell dont you. :shock:

I dont, just having a shit day

Deary me!!!(edited after ben's wise words)
See below...Ben talks sense.

I know that Dell is on the wind up, but I do worry that the Tef can sometimes be like the unofficial trust forum. Calling for someone to be banned as soon as they start taking the piss out of the trust position with somewhat creative arguments is a bit hypocritical, especially when a lot of make similar piss takes against the board.

If dell boy was winding you all up that much then just don't rise to it. Answer question he asks sensibly and do it over and over again if necessary, even if he doesn't acknowledge the answers, others who are reading might. The general bitchiness which seems to take over as soon as someone questions the consortium (if they're taking the piss or not) doesn't help anybody.

I've lost the plot a bit with this post, I think my point was that we should try and not get involved in personal arguments with anti-consortium people. There's a fair few silent undecided people who read these forums and getting into personal sniping just alienates people. Or something.

What Ben said. Dell is in part expressing a point of view quite reasonably which he's entitled to do, and which doesn't merit the kind of vitriol he attracts. But the reason he does (I assume) is because the other part of what he's doing is trying to get a rise out of people for his own personal jollies, which some seem to be giving him in spades. Don't see the benefit myself.

If you were not a well know figure within the trust would that be your opinion paul

Thank you for your warm welcome yesterday.
In hindsight my opening post was a bit stupid by putting the word 'FACT' at the end and this obviously started you all off. Its not fact, but it is a bit more than just my opinion.
I've often been called a fencesitter by those who post both on here and ThisIs, at the moment that is correct. FBen thank you for your post I know it wasn't posted to back me up, it was for all those other Fencesitters and there are a hell of a lot of them out there, who could quite easily be put off my the ganging up tactics of Trust members on forums, and that is how I feel, I have an alternative view and because I don't toe-the-line of the militant side of The Trust I and others like me take a pasting.

My stance changed last year, I was pro-board until September 2006 and then realised I was wrong, very wrong.
When Bill Power was named as the finance behind The Consortium I was pleased like most others and could see the end of this corrupt board.
I even thought of joining the Trust, but as stated before I decided not to because of the aggression shown by Trust posters.
I supported The Orange protests, but not the protests at the back of The Arkells.
I am not convinced the Consortium have acted any different through the media than the antics shown by the current board and both imo have come out of this badly.
My point is - why should I a fencesitter believe everything the Trust/Consortium tell me because I don't, the same goes for The Board, but The Trust supporters inform others with great confidence that every single word that has ever been published from The Board are lies and deceit.
I'm always willing to listen to both sides even if I dont agree with them, maybe some of you should try being a bit flexible, if you dont you will find fewer and fewer fencesitters will join your crusade.

Yes

Thats fair enough when you put a reason behind what you think it comes across better.

well done, it's not difficult to justify your own opinions is it? perhaps if you did  this a little more often instead of being deliberately polemic in order to garner a reaction then people might treat you with a bit more respect.

10 pages of dick waving. Well done to all involved. I know it's a forum but ffs.

you copied what i said with bigger words

i didn't read what you said cos you're a cunt

*Because* stop your text shit

Thankyou

No probs m8  :D

Dell, I think that you are wrong to state that the board and the trust deserve equally low credit. Despite not being in a position to impliment it the trust have come up with several very good medium/long term strategies for the club that meet with aproval from councill/residents. The board rubished these without even looking at them. The board then started mud slinging at the trust, who up untill this point had not said a word against any official board member. Meanwhile the board have come up with no ideas that will benifit this club in any way shape or form. I personally believe that the refusal to come up with a groundshare plan acceptable to the councill (ie gift me land so i can make a profitt out of houses) is proof enough that they will move us to chippenham citing "all other avenues have been explored".

I've grown up in Swindon but done a degree in Manchester (wife's a city fan) I've seen some of their protests and heard about others. If there is one critisism that I would level at TRUSTSTFC it is that they have been too fucking plasid.