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Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: stfc_steve on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 15:59:57
Dunno if it is spelt right
just wanted to see your opinions on whether you want us to lose and subsequently see him sacked or see us win and carry on, in my opinion playing boring unattractive football
leave some comments


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 16:03:19
don't give a fuck


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Give us an S on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 16:03:23
I have thought this too. But i dont wanna not be in Euro 2008 just to get rid of a manager. So I want England to win!!!


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 16:13:18
its all become tiresome.the team never really plays to its potential.they will make the tournament with macalaren as coach,then go out in the knock out stages on pens as always.
will win at a canter tonight


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 16:15:48
Quote from: "arriba"
its all become tiresome.the team never really plays to its potential.they will make the tournament with macclaren as coach,then go out in the knock out stages on pens as always.


At which point he'll leave and be replaced with either:

A talentless yes man,

or,

A passionate manager who's useless,

or,

A combination of the two.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: mattyswinboy on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 21:31:56
i wanted us to win but still want mclaren out as he is crap tactically wise just a clone of sven


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: land_of_bo on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 21:34:57
As usual Beckham and Owen coming up with the goods...

Before the world cup last year everyone was slating Beckham and Owen, wasn't there a stat the last 10 goals england scored in qualifying for the WC were either scored by Owen or setup by Beckham?

McLaren is a clown, and looks like one. Get rid sooner rather than later and let us have a new boss to lead us to/manage during Euro 08!


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Give us an S on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 21:40:36
Quote from: "land_of_bo"


McLaren is a clown, and looks like one. Get rid sooner rather than later and let us have a new boss to lead us to/manage during Euro 08!


Unfortunately this will never happen!


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 22:30:52
England still have it all to do to qualify.  You have to fancy the Russians to beat/if not draw with England in Russia.

Whilst England's other games are all at home, the likes of Russia, Croatia and Isreal are no mugs, and i wouldnt be surprised if at least one of these teams managed to knick a draw against England.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: redbullzeye on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 22:40:38
Quote from: "StefPol"
England still have it all to do to qualify.  You have to fancy the Russians to beat/if not draw with England in Russia.

Whilst England's other games are all at home, the likes of Russia, Croatia and Isreal are no mugs, and i wouldnt be surprised if at least one of these teams managed to knick a draw against England.

We will beat Russia, Croatia, Israel and Estonia at Wembley - job done


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: mattyswinboy on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 22:49:12
Quote

We will beat Russia, Croatia, Israel and Estonia at Wembley - job done


nice to see someone is confident russians are a very strong outfit as are the croatians mclaren will have to pull something out of the bag for them games the other 2 games we will be fine.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Stef Troll on Wednesday, June 6, 2007, 23:31:16
Dont under estimate Russia.  They have Gus Hiddink, who is arguably one of the best managers in the world.  He usually gets his tactics spot on, and they managed to get to credible draws against Croatia.

I reckon England will draw to Russia twice, and then win the remainder of their games.  Whether this will be enough to qualify, im not to sure


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 00:46:44
Quote from: "StefPol"
England still have it all to do to qualify.  You have to fancy the Russians to beat/if not draw with England in Russia.

Whilst England's other games are all at home, the likes of Russia, Croatia and Isreal are no mugs, and i wouldnt be surprised if at least one of these teams managed to knick a draw against England.


But hey at least we didn't lose to fucking Armenia, I mean wow that must be pretty worrying to lose to them and having Portugal and Serbia so close behind with two games in hand. You'd have to fancy Portugal to crush Armenia and then home to Poland, well that's a pretty easy game, looks like Poland  still have it all do to qualify.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 09:38:35
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "StefPol"
England still have it all to do to qualify.  You have to fancy the Russians to beat/if not draw with England in Russia.

Whilst England's other games are all at home, the likes of Russia, Croatia and Isreal are no mugs, and i wouldnt be surprised if at least one of these teams managed to knick a draw against England.


But hey at least we didn't lose to fucking Armenia, I mean wow that must be pretty worrying to lose to them and having Portugal and Serbia so close behind with two games in hand. You'd have to fancy Portugal to crush Armenia and then home to Poland, well that's a pretty easy game, looks like Poland  still have it all do to qualify.


Yep your right, crap result yesterday.  Then again, Serbia lost away to Kazakhstan, and Poland beat Portugal at home, so i guess surprise results can happen -  Just look at England, they couldnt even beat Macedonia at home  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 09:50:54
Quote from: "StefPol"
They have Gus Hiddink, who is arguably one of the best managers in the world.  


people say that but I don't think he is all that


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: tans on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 11:11:39
they wont get rid of mclaren, they wont be able to justify it, he was the cheap option anyway. the also wouldnt be able to justify getting someone like hiddink or scolari in cos of the wages theyd be on, think of all the shit with sven they got


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 19:52:10
Quote from: "StefPol"
Quote from: "Ben Wah Balls"
Quote from: "StefPol"
England still have it all to do to qualify.  You have to fancy the Russians to beat/if not draw with England in Russia.

Whilst England's other games are all at home, the likes of Russia, Croatia and Isreal are no mugs, and i wouldnt be surprised if at least one of these teams managed to knick a draw against England.


But hey at least we didn't lose to fucking Armenia, I mean wow that must be pretty worrying to lose to them and having Portugal and Serbia so close behind with two games in hand. You'd have to fancy Portugal to crush Armenia and then home to Poland, well that's a pretty easy game, looks like Poland  still have it all do to qualify.


Yep your right, crap result yesterday.  Then again, Serbia lost away to Kazakhstan, and Poland beat Portugal at home, so i guess surprise results can happen -  Just look at England, they couldnt even beat Macedonia at home  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Macedonia have a much better record in international football than Armenia.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Stef Troll on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 21:15:33
Wll looking at both teams past history, i'd say both Armenia and Macedonia are pretty evenly matched


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 21:23:47
Armenia are coached by Tommy Jones..........Armenia.... city in the sky.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Friday, June 8, 2007, 14:13:35
Team...........W....D.....L...Goals For..Goals Against
Macedonia..33....32...55...146.........177
Armenia......20....25...58...74...........188

Macedonia clearly have the better record. About twice as many goals but less conceded. Also when they played each other most recently in the world cup qualifiers Macedonia won 3-0 at home and 2-1 away.


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Stef Troll on Friday, June 8, 2007, 23:04:36
Yeah but your looking at the past.

In the 1970's, Poland arguably had the best team in the world, and were a better side then England.  However if we look at the present, then it is clearly notable England are better then Poland.  

Also in past qualifying camaigns, Armenia beat the likes of Northern Ireland.  Does that mean Armenia are better then N Ireland ?


Title: Steve Mclaren
Post by: Crozzer on Saturday, June 9, 2007, 13:55:29
England have been a huge disappointment since 1966.  This is down to the F.A. not understanding what it takes to be a winning manager (e.g., Clough), and also down to the major clubs being bigger than the national side.  With the Premier League, getting more and more obsessed with big money, we will be selecting more of the squad from the Championship.

I hope England do not qualify, it will prompt necessary change.