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Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:10:09
Right,
I'm in the middle of doing my GCSE's, and I really dont know what I want to do after them.
I was quite close to sorting out an apprenticeship as an electrician as some of you may know, but I then decided I didn't want to do that.
Tomorrow I have a test about bricklaying that I need to pass if I want to have an apprenticeship in that.
But i'm still unsure of what I actually want to do.
I dont know weather to do 6th form, go to college or get an apprenticesip, but I do need the money.
Help :D


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:13:20
depends whether you enjoy being in education or not, if you're not the type of person who doesn't suit classroom based learning then better to do on-the-job training. if you're happy in a classroom then stick in college and get something useful - not basket weaving or psychology or whatever they call it these days.

or just fuck around for a few years until you absolutely have to get a job.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:14:24
Do your best in your GSCE's for now. When they've finished take a few weeks to think about it and go to the local park and get pissed on cheap cider with your friends. If you don't want to do the brick laying apprenticeship after thinking about it then don't do it. Enrol on some courses at college in things your interested in and see where that takes you.

You're obviously young if you're doing GCSE's, you're nowhere near needing some sort of career path yet.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:14:28
I'd at least give a-levels a bash.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:16:32
Quote from: "flammableBen"
You're obviously young if you're doing GCSE's, you're nowhere near needing some sort of career path yet.


Don't assume Ben. He could be a retard who has been held back for several years!


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:16:39
GCSE's!!!!!!!

I thought you were about 30!


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:17:17
Don't do an apprenticeship for the money...do it to learn a skill that you will use for life.  If you fancy college, part time jobs are easy enough to fit around it, just for the money.

Good thing about 6th form/college is that you can always change what you do if you don't get on well with a subject, something harder to do with an apprenticeship I'd imagine. I know a few people that have done apprenticeships and got themselves sorted out in terms of a career path and a decent pay packet once they completed it.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:17:26
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
Quote from: "flammableBen"
You're obviously young if you're doing GCSE's, you're nowhere near needing some sort of career path yet.


Don't assume Ben. He could be a retard who has been held back for several years!

Fuck off :D


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:17:57
Quote from: "Ralphy"
GCSE's!!!!!!!

I thought you were about 30!

You are joking aint you?


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:19:05
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Don't do an apprenticeship for the money...do it to learn a skill that you will use for life.  If you fancy college, part time jobs are easy enough to fit around it, just for the money.

Good thing about 6th form/college is that you can always change what you do if you don't get on well with a subject, something harder to do with an apprenticeship I'd imagine. I know a few people that have done apprenticeships and got themselves sorted out in terms of a career path and a decent pay packet once they completed it.

Hate school, have for ages.
I was doing quite well and I was predicted good grades.
But by the look of things i'm not going to get many GCSE's, which makes things harder.......


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:19:22
Just do a combination of what me and Si said.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:20:04
Quote from: "flammableBen"
Just do a combination of what me and Si said.


And revise instead of contributing to the 80% bollocks!  :wink:


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:22:02
I hated school. College was miles better - meet new people, get to go out and get pissed, perv on fit girls in the refectory, plus lots of free time to go and drink cider like Ben did.

Never too late to do ok in your GCSEs, work hard on some revision and you can bump your grades up fairly quickly.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:24:18
Quote from: "simon pieman"
I hated school. College was miles better - meet new people, get to go out and get pissed, perv on fit girls in the refectory, plus lots of free time to go and drink cider like Ben did.

Never too late to do ok in your GCSEs, work hard on some revision and you can bump your grades up fairly quickly.

But im a lazy cunt, I never did much coursework either.
The few I have donw have been difficult, im fucked


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:25:19
No-one is ever going to give a shit about any grades you get in GCSE as long as they are higher than a C. And even then it's only Maths, English and things related to anything you might want to do at A Level.

Actually Oxford/Cambridge might, but fuck that.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:25:21
smoke crack behind the bike shed instead then


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:26:36
Quote from: "STFC4LIFE"
But im a lazy cunt, I never did much coursework either.
The few I have donw have been difficult, im fucked


http://aethlos.com/subhuman-primates/uploaded_images/noose-765301.jpg


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:27:02
Quote from: "flammableBen"
No-one is ever going to give a shit about any grades you get in GCSE as long as they are higher than a C. And even then it's only Maths, English and things related to anything you might want to do at A Level.

Actually Oxford/Cambridge might, but fuck that.

Thats the thing, I wont get many over C.
And Maths is certainly not one of them.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:27:41
Quote from: "land_of_bo"
Quote from: "STFC4LIFE"
But im a lazy cunt, I never did much coursework either.
The few I have donw have been difficult, im fucked


http://aethlos.com/subhuman-primates/uploaded_images/noose-765301.jpg

Tug of war specialist?


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: yeo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:31:30
Doesnt sound like you are much of an academic type so if you have the opportunity to get a trade then go for it.The worst thing you can do is get any crappy job just because you want a few quid thats what i did and ive regretted it for the last 15 years.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:34:57
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Doesnt sound like you are much of an academic type so if you have the opportunity to get a trade then go for it.The worst thing you can do is get any crappy job just because you want a few quid thats what i did and ive regretted it for the last 15 years.

Do people really care about grades?
If I dont get my C's in Maths and English but go for an apprenticeship will they really care?


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: yeo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:40:34
Depends what you are doing I expect.

My brother did a sparky apprenticeship and had to get his Maths GCSE at night school whilst on the job I think.Trouble is there are loads of kids all wanting apprenticeships competeting for very few spots.Just put yourself out there,the best way to get in seems to be knowing someone who knows someone.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:42:59
Depends on the apprenticeship, I'd imagine something like electronics would require a C at maths. Don't know if bricklaying is anything more than laying bricks. If you need to understand wall angles and stuff then Maths might be useful. Ask the apprenticeship people.

Not the end of the world either way. Loads of my mates at new college were re-taking  maths GCSE's whilst doing various other shit.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:56:04
if you're going for apprenticeships then would be a good idea to get some interview practice in, your school careers blokey might be able to help. good interview is as important as any GCSE grades - as long as you get asked to come in the first place.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:58:10
Quote from: "axs"
if you're going for apprenticeships then would be a good idea to get some interview practice in, your school careers blokey might be able to help. good interview is as important as any GCSE grades - as long as you get asked to come in the first place.

Weve done practice interveiws, I was ok in that.
I'm not going to start on the careers bloke  :evil:


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:58:20
what axs said.

If you can't get or don't fancy an apprenticeship then don't just go for the first job which comes along, as someone said early, you could end up regretting it. Keep your options open, see what you can do at college. At worst you'd have got to fuck around and have fun for a year or two.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:59:29
You're doomed to a life of poor wages and being shafted by managers.

 :D  :wink:


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 22:59:43
i did that until age 22, didn't do me any harm.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Ralphy on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:02:12
I am still doing it.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: land_of_bo on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:06:40
Quote from: "Ralphy"
I am still doing it.


And you wonder about your* self esteem...














* sorry. You're


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:11:27
my gcses are so shit that i shouldn't be anywhere near a-levels. nobody gives a fuck about them.

academic achievements are worthless in the grand scheme of things.

i'd suggest that after finishing your gcses take a year out. find a shit job to get a bit of cash but spend as much time as possible just enjoying yourself, reassess the situation when the time comes and you should have a better idea of what you want to do. don't fall into the trap of neverending academia, it's not neccesary for everyone to go from secondary school to college and from college to university.

i could have ended up going in a total different direction with my life, i'm glad i didn't and this is how it's turned out. i doubt anyone would aspire to be me, so i'm not sure why i'm giving anyone advice.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:38:27
Quote from: "sonic youth"
don't fall into the trap of neverending academia, it's not neccesary for everyone to go from secondary school to college and from college to university.


That's good advice for anybody. Look how I turned out.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:40:37
i went through a levels, university and then started as a temp in a warehouse, still working in the same place 5 years on.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: red macca on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:42:52
I was shit at school then did fuck all for 6 years and now im doing quite well.Qualifications mean shit really these days unless you have a qualification in the line of work you want to get into


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 23:45:29
I left school, did college, uni and now I'm still studying whilst doing full time work. Careers/jobs/study can pan out different ways. I wasn't even going to go to uni but applied in case. There isn't a 'right' way to do things unless you want to be a doctor or something like that.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, June 1, 2007, 08:24:52
Quote from: "flammableBen"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
don't fall into the trap of neverending academia, it's not neccesary for everyone to go from secondary school to college and from college to university.


That's good advice for anybody. Look how I turned out.


A drunken low-life?

But seriously though, Sonic makes a good point.

I went to college and did quite well, got 3 good A-levels. I had a place at Uni confirmed but I decided against it and turned it down. My Dad gave me shit for ages about it and I still don't really speak to him these days, everytime I do he constantly reminds me about what a failure I am and that I should have gone to Uni.

At the end of the day, I'm earning a decent(ish) wage which allows me to pay the bills and still live a good life. That's all I want really.

So STFC4LIFE, just do what you want - don't let anybody else tell you what to do.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: mattboyslim on Friday, June 1, 2007, 08:45:01
Quote from: "sam_stfc"

So STFC4LIFE, just do what you want - don't let anybody else tell you what to do.


Exactly, I did Uni, changed course after a year and since graduating have done various temp jobs for two years before starting a job in September coupled with a part time Uni course.  I am really happy with the job i have to go to but if I hadn't got it I'd have been pretty lost - despite being well qualified.  Don't make too rash a decision, you're really young and your plans change loads.  Don't rule yourself out of anything, and I'm sure any academic qualifications you need to do a trade can be easily done thru night school etc.  If you're doing a trade I bet it'll be tons easier to get any qualifications that way just because the incentive is greater and you'll be able to see why you need it.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, June 1, 2007, 10:52:36
Do some revision instead of using internet forums :wink:


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Sade on Friday, June 1, 2007, 13:12:58
I recommend College if you know your actually genuinely interested in the course and know you'll stick to it. Alot of my friends really enjoyed college.

Personally I did a part time course at college, it was shit and boring but its got me where I wanna be now so I'm not complaining!


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Tails on Friday, June 1, 2007, 13:16:03
I went to College and regretted it, I hated education and I was doing the subject because I could doss around a bit. I did learn a bit but it's not what I wanted to do. Not really an education person, I'm more than bright enough my GCSE's were good but I was really unhappy at college so took the a level and a half I had and went to work instead.

Wish I'd thought about it more now really, but I'm happy now and my job is pretty decent for my age. Although I'm tempted to go back to college part time.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Friday, June 1, 2007, 17:37:16
Had the test today that I need to pass to get on the training/apprenticesip programme.
It didn't go to badly, I didn't finish it but thats mainly because I made sure the questions I did do I tried to get correct.
Also, accoring to the women, GCSE results don't make much of a difference.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: stfc11 on Friday, June 1, 2007, 20:39:31
I left school last year and have just finished my first year of college, don't really like it to be honest but if you look at it right now i'm doing three A-Levels which is 15 hours a week! Not too bad! What i'd say is seriously consider some college courses, it's not always about grades sometimes it's about your attitude towards it and why you want to do it, if you say you have a genuine intrest in it i reckon you could get on quite a few courses. So look at some college courses if any grab you sign up for them, then go to college, if you don't like it, you could always drop out and get a job and look at your options maybe look at getting an apprenticeship, and if you do like it, stick at college, get a part time job so you've got some money and then look at your situation again in a couple of years, it's always easy to drop courses so you could always sign up to 3 or 4 and then if you don't like it drop it, or change in your second year. Just try everything thats open to you and then see where you end up. :)


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: manc red on Friday, June 1, 2007, 21:45:13
Since school ive always followed similar subjects through my A levels and now degree.  While applying for graduate jobs this year ive been suprised by how many companies still want to know what you got in your GCSE's.  Id always considered that you were only as good as your last qualification but that seems untrue.  

I guess it maybe different though if you chop and change subjects between qualifications.  I know this sounds old fashioned but you just have to consider what you enjoy doing and find a way to make a living off something slightly related to that if possible. Thats what i think anyway.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Friday, June 1, 2007, 22:22:39
what did you study manc red?


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Friday, June 1, 2007, 22:33:10
sorry i nodded off there.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: manc red on Friday, June 1, 2007, 23:41:13
erm nope i do mechanical engineering. its pretty dull but i kinda like it


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Luci on Friday, June 1, 2007, 23:44:39
Quote from: "manc red"
erm nope i do mechanical engineering. its pretty dull but i kinda like it


Thats a bloody good option to study there.  When I worked for an Engineering Firm in Sydney, the Mechanical Engineers were on mega bucks.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: manc red on Friday, June 1, 2007, 23:54:20
yeah there is potential to earn a fair bit especially if you become chartered but that takes at least 4 more years.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: axs on Saturday, June 2, 2007, 00:34:24
i have a couple of friends who did mech / man engineering, they work for rolls royce now (aerospace, not the cars)


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, June 7, 2007, 19:52:42
Passed the test :D Another one.
Not just need to find a company.
Fingers crossed.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:24:26
Had an interview, I got told yes and he'll just run it over with his two partners to make sure.
 :D


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:26:34
Quote from: "STFC4LIFE"
Had an interview, I got told yes and he'll just run it over with his two partners to make sure.
 :D


where maccy d's?


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:29:08
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "STFC4LIFE"
Had an interview, I got told yes and he'll just run it over with his two partners to make sure.
 :D


where maccy d's?

Bricklaying you cunt :D


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: yeo on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:30:00
Good work fella


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: yeo on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:30:27
can you build me a Garage and a BBQ?

 :D


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:30:28
i did a bit of that when younger at college but jacked it after a few months.later regretted it.fair play lad!


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Bushey Boy on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:33:08
Dean, keep your mouth shut on site the first few months...thats my only advice.

Bloody good career mate


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:33:27
Quote from: "Yeovil Red."
can you build me a Garage and a BBQ?

 :D

Of course :D


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:34:19
Quote from: "arriba"
i did a bit of that when younger at college but jacked it after a few months.later regretted it.fair play lad!

Cheers Arriba


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:35:09
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"
Dean, keep your mouth shut on site the first few months...thats my only advice.

Bloody good career mate

Ok mate wil keep it in mind, I was quiet as anything today, had the interview in a pub  8)


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Bushey Boy on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:36:01
ha ha, just I know they will rip into you and you need to bear that in mind.  Your be fine though mate


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, June 17, 2007, 18:38:34
Quote from: "Bushey Boy"
ha ha, just I know they will rip into you and you need to bear that in mind.  Your be fine though mate

Was chatting to him and had my old man with me, one of his other employers is a Rovers fan.  :twisted:
Looking forward to it.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Tuesday, June 26, 2007, 14:01:55
Cunting job has fell through  :evil:
Not happy, not sure what to do now about finding a company, this one one of the last options.


Title: Work - What To Do
Post by: Lumps on Tuesday, June 26, 2007, 14:34:59
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
Doesnt sound like you are much of an academic type so if you have the opportunity to get a trade then go for it.The worst thing you can do is get any crappy job just because you want a few quid thats what i did and ive regretted it for the last 15 years.


Does this mean you're not really an air traffic controller!  :shock:

All my illusions are shatterered. I don't think I'll recover from this.  :cry: