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Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 11:38:59
Ex Prison bird Hughes will be gracing the County Ground next season.




































For Oldham.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 11:40:00
was a good striker..still could be


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 12:54:08
Was a radio phone in today on talksport about Hughes.

He was drugged up and pissed, hit another car, killing one occupant (Another one died of her injuries after a year) and left the driver in a wheelchair for the rest of their life.

He then did a runner and hid for 38 hours.

Was sentenced to 6 years, will serve 3.

And walk into a job that pays around 80 grand a year.

Well done Oldham..........................................


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: tans on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 13:22:16
think of the shit the man will get, northerners obviously aint thought of that  :-))(


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 14:08:37
Quote from: "herthab"
Was a radio phone in today on talksport about Hughes.

He was drugged up and pissed, hit another car, killing one occupant (Another one died of her injuries after a year) and left the driver in a wheelchair for the rest of their life.

He then did a runner and hid for 38 hours.

Was sentenced to 6 years, will serve 3.

And walk into a job that pays around 80 grand a year.

Well done Oldham..........................................


He wasn't drugged up or pissed. He was just driving like a prick.

Turned himself in the next day.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 14:08:37
double post.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 14:19:49
hence many chants of "you're supposed to be in jail"


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Give us an S on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 15:05:31
Im not sure of the ins and outs, but 3 years is a small sentance for taking someone elses life. I think he will receive massive amounts of abuse. I wonder how the family of the victim will react to this?


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 16:37:32
Quote from: "Give_us_an_S"
Im not sure of the ins and outs, but 3 years is a small sentance for taking someone elses life. I think he will receive massive amounts of abuse. I wonder how the family of the victim will react to this?


I think it is shameful that a football club is willing to give him another chance after such a disgraceful crime.
He will get abuse and will deserve every last bit of it

some news regarding the case:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/3535478.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/coventry_warwickshire/3548840.stm


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 16:46:07
they should string him up.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 16:46:54
Quote from: "sonic youth"
they should string him up.


not by his bollocks as he clearly doesn't have any


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Give us an S on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 16:47:09
Thanks for that. After seeing that I agree. I always liked him as a player but he should never be allowed to play again. He should still be inside!!! I for one will give him abuse next season! Shocking!


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 16:47:33
they ought to have him hung, drawn and quartered and fed to the animals.

he's even worse than muslim immigrants


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 18:47:35
To quote the infamous Jack Sparrow:

"Shoot him, cut out his tongue, and shoot his tongue"

Or just give him a meaningful sentence


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: herthab on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 20:58:17
Quote from: "Tails"
Quote from: "herthab"
Was a radio phone in today on talksport about Hughes.

He was drugged up and pissed, hit another car, killing one occupant (Another one died of her injuries after a year) and left the driver in a wheelchair for the rest of their life.

He then did a runner and hid for 38 hours.

Was sentenced to 6 years, will serve 3.

And walk into a job that pays around 80 grand a year.

Well done Oldham..........................................


He wasn't drugged up or pissed. He was just driving like a prick.

Turned himself in the next day.



Ok, it wasn't 38 hours. It was 36. Which is how long he needed to help the alcohol and drugs through his system.

He was pissed up and he had taken drugs. If him doing a runner isn't testament enough, it was also widely acknowledged during the court case.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 21:24:27
Quote from: "reeves4england"
To quote the infamous Jack Sparrow:

"Shoot him, cut out his tongue, and shoot his tongue"

Or just give him a meaningful sentence


 :mrgreen:

Pirate 1: "Shoot him!"

Pirate 2: "Cut out his tongue!"

Sparrow: "Shoot him, cut out his tongue, then shoot his tongue"

Pure comedy  :D


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 21:28:57
I'm a bit torn here - on the one hand, he's done his time, so he should be allowed to live a normal life again. On the other hand, 3 years doesn't seem long enough.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 30, 2007, 21:59:16
Its no crime to go to Jail.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 05:51:49
He has done the sentence he was given, he is now a free man and should be able to do what the fuck he likes as far as I am concerned, apart from obviously driving like a lunatic.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Give us an S on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 07:18:54
Quote from: "Ginginho"
He has done the sentence he was given, he is now a free man and should be able to do what the fuck he likes as far as I am concerned, apart from obviously driving like a lunatic.


I think the point is that he killed someone by pure wrecklessness, and more that likely pissed too so he fled the scene and hid for 36 hours and he only gets 3 years. Thats not justice im afraid.

How would you feel if that was someone in your family killed like that and he is back out after only 3 years and straight in to a mega paid job where kids look up to him?


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: flammableBen on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 07:23:56
Quote from: "Give_us_an_S"
Quote from: "Ginginho"
He has done the sentence he was given, he is now a free man and should be able to do what the fuck he likes as far as I am concerned, apart from obviously driving like a lunatic.


I think the point is that he killed someone by pure wrecklessness, and more that likely pissed too so he fled the scene and hid for 36 hours and he only gets 3 years. Thats not justice im afraid.

How would you feel if that was someone in your family killed like that and he is back out after only 3 years and straight in to a mega paid job where kids look up to him?


Why not? 3 years seems like it'd be fucking ages to spend in prison to me. What would keeping him longer do? Not going to make time go backwards and stop him doing it.  Doubt any more years would be more likely to stop him doing it again (unless you throw away the key).

People seem to want to relish in some sort of public retribution blood cry.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Ginginho on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 07:24:55
It's nothing to do with how I would feel, I am saying from his point of view, he has served the sentence he was given, he should be allowed to carry on with the rest of his life.

I know what you're saying, and I am not condoning his actions at all, or saying the sentence was correct, but the law is the law, and he has done his time.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 12:37:05
if he was an accountant, he could go back to his occupation without any complaints - why is it different because his occupation is football? he'll only be paid what oldham want to pay him, i doubt he's in the position to demand huge wages.

he served his time, let him get on with it as ginginho says.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: mattboyslim on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 12:43:16
I think what is the biggest issue is him serving 3yrs for the crime.  I personally wouldn't want him at my football club, least of all as he's not exactly a role model for young pros, but as has been said he's done his time (however short it was) and I guess clubs are free to try and sign him.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: herthab on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 14:45:52
Quote from: "sonic youth"
if he was an accountant, he could go back to his occupation without any complaints - why is it different because his occupation is football? he'll only be paid what oldham want to pay him, i doubt he's in the position to demand huge wages.

he served his time, let him get on with it as ginginho says.



I think the point is that he'll be going back into the public eye.

If he was a singer, actor, or other high profile person, would he walk back into his profession?

All Leslie Grantham did was wank off in front of a PC monitor, and he was dropped by Eastenders!

This prick killed 2 people and ran away.

How do you think the relatives of those killed, or the poor bastard who ended up in a wheelchair will feel, seeing him on the telly, or the back pages?


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, May 31, 2007, 16:00:33
i doubt hughes is the first person to return to a high profile occupation after a prison term or a criminal conviction and i doubt he'll be the last. not defending what he did, the guy is a total scrote for what he did and how he acted afterwards but despite serving a ludicrously short prison sentence, he can go back to living his own life.

i imnagine they'd find it very difficult but justice isn't about protecting the family of the victims forever, otherwise even petty criminals would be locked away for life.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: janaage on Monday, August 20, 2007, 16:47:37
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/6955083.stm

Should be interesting to see what kind of reaction he gets from Oldham fans, and the away fans when he starts playing again.

For info - Patrick Kluivert was found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving, that didn't stop him from continuing his career when he served his punishment (240hrs community service and a 3 month suspended sentence).  I don't think Hughes will get off so lightly from the crowds though.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: STFC_Gazzza on Monday, August 20, 2007, 17:16:45
"YOURRRRR SUPPOSED TO BE IN JAIL......."


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, August 20, 2007, 17:21:02
Quote from: "STFC_Gazzza"
"YOURRRRR SUPPOSED TO BE IN JAIL......."


indeed


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Bennett on Monday, August 20, 2007, 18:56:52
i do enjoy the nike "worlds most lethal footballers" advertisement...i had great fun pointing that lee hughes should be on there


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: TheKingCY on Monday, August 20, 2007, 19:38:41
Its not his fault it was only 3yrs.  I can't see his lawyer asking the judge to put a couple of years on it...!!

Let him get on with it...


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, August 21, 2007, 06:50:12
I thought he was given 6 years to serve.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: adje on Thursday, August 23, 2007, 20:30:52
Playing for Oldham IS a sentence albeit only one year


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Lumps on Friday, August 24, 2007, 08:15:31
Quote from: "herthab"
Quote from: "sonic youth"
if he was an accountant, he could go back to his occupation without any complaints - why is it different because his occupation is football? he'll only be paid what oldham want to pay him, i doubt he's in the position to demand huge wages.

he served his time, let him get on with it as ginginho says.



I think the point is that he'll be going back into the public eye.

If he was a singer, actor, or other high profile person, would he walk back into his profession?

All Leslie Grantham did was wank off in front of a PC monitor, and he was dropped by Eastenders!

This prick killed 2 people and ran away.

How do you think the relatives of those killed, or the poor bastard who ended up in a wheelchair will feel, seeing him on the telly, or the back pages?



Errrrr....that would be the same Leslie Grantham with a conviction for the murder of a German taxi driver over a decade before he ever appeared in Eastenders would it?

(Christ how unlikely is it that you'd inadvertently pick an example that entirely contradicts your arguement?)


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: janaage on Friday, August 24, 2007, 08:21:06
Lumps you sound like my old man.

When Dirty Den was on Eastenders my old man would refuse to watch it

"he's a good character" we'd say

"tell that to that german taxi drivers family"

He'd go on and on about it.

And Adje, I like the playing for Oldham sentence thought!!


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Lumps on Friday, August 24, 2007, 08:33:00
Jan,

I was just trying to point out that Herthabs example was a little flawed as Dirty Den was allowed to have a career in the most watched programme on TV when he had a history involving a conviction for murder.

Personally I'm with Sonic et al on this one. The bloke was a twat and I can understand the friends and family of his victims being pissed off with the length of the sentence, but plenty of others (who weren't famous footballers ) have walked free from court having killed behind the wheel. He's done the time that he was sentenced to and all that he can do is to keep expressing his regret and get on with his life.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Arriba on Friday, August 24, 2007, 09:44:31
what hughes did was wrong.but how many of us hand on heart have driven over the alcohol limit,under the influence of drugs or both ?
he didn't mean it to happen, but made a major mistake then panicked and has paid for his crime.he has to live with what he's done, and the law of the land has dealt with him.
football was his job, so fair play if he gets back to what he did previously.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:01:48
Quote from: "arriba"
what hughes did was wrong.but how many of us hand on heart have driven over the alcohol limit,under the influence of drugs or both ?
he didn't mean it to happen, but made a major mistake then panicked and has paid for his crime.he has to live with what he's done, and the law of the land has dealt with him.
football was his job, so fair play if he gets back to what he did previously.


Yeah, absolutely. It's easily done. Who hasn't got pissed up/charlied up, got in their car, crashed head on into some innocent bystander's car, killed or seriously injured the occupants and done a runner without giving a fuck as to whether they are alive or dead?

Personally, that is my idea of a gooooooood Friday night out.

I think Lee Hughes is great and he's not low life scum at all 8)


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:05:59
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "arriba"
what hughes did was wrong.but how many of us hand on heart have driven over the alcohol limit,under the influence of drugs or both ?
he didn't mean it to happen, but made a major mistake then panicked and has paid for his crime.he has to live with what he's done, and the law of the land has dealt with him.
football was his job, so fair play if he gets back to what he did previously.


Yeah, absolutely. It's easily done. Who hasn't got pissed up/charlied up, got in their car, crashed head on into some innocent bystander's car, killed or seriously injured the occupants and done a runner without giving a fuck as to whether they are alive or dead?

Personally, that is my idea of a gooooooood Friday night out.

I think Lee Hughes is great and he's not low life scum at all 8)


   The annoying thing about someone like Hughes is that on the wages he was on playing in the Prem, for Coventry from memory, he could have paid for a driver to ferry him about on his booze and drug binges.....


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Arriba on Friday, August 24, 2007, 10:11:59
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "arriba"
what hughes did was wrong.but how many of us hand on heart have driven over the alcohol limit,under the influence of drugs or both ?
he didn't mean it to happen, but made a major mistake then panicked and has paid for his crime.he has to live with what he's done, and the law of the land has dealt with him.
football was his job, so fair play if he gets back to what he did previously.


Yeah, absolutely. It's easily done. Who hasn't got pissed up/charlied up, got in their car, crashed head on into some innocent bystander's car, killed or seriously injured the occupants and done a runner without giving a fuck as to whether they are alive or dead?

Personally, that is my idea of a gooooooood Friday night out.

I think Lee Hughes is great and he's not low life scum at all 8)


well, if you have never driven over the limit then i'd say you are in a minority.he made a mistake with the worst possible outcome.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: genf_stfc on Friday, August 24, 2007, 11:09:24
Quote from: "mattboyslim"
least of all as he's not exactly a role model for young pros,


actually, he's probably in more of a position to offer a cautionary tale of "don't do that, you might cause someone's death end up inside like i did" than before he was imprisoned, although that doesn't negate what he did.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Foggy on Friday, August 24, 2007, 11:19:55
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "arriba"
what hughes did was wrong.but how many of us hand on heart have driven over the alcohol limit,under the influence of drugs or both ?
he didn't mean it to happen, but made a major mistake then panicked and has paid for his crime.he has to live with what he's done, and the law of the land has dealt with him.
football was his job, so fair play if he gets back to what he did previously.


Yeah, absolutely. It's easily done. Who hasn't got pissed up/charlied up, got in their car, crashed head on into some innocent bystander's car, killed or seriously injured the occupants and done a runner without giving a fuck as to whether they are alive or dead?

Personally, that is my idea of a gooooooood Friday night out.

I think Lee Hughes is great and he's not low life scum at all 8)


well, if you have never driven over the limit then i'd say you are in a minority.he made a mistake with the worst possible outcome.




He didnt make a mistake, He was pissed out of his head and knowingly got behind the wheel of a car. He is a grade A cunt for what he did and i hope he never has a good day in his life again.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, August 24, 2007, 11:19:57
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "arriba"
what hughes did was wrong.but how many of us hand on heart have driven over the alcohol limit,under the influence of drugs or both ?
he didn't mean it to happen, but made a major mistake then panicked and has paid for his crime.he has to live with what he's done, and the law of the land has dealt with him.
football was his job, so fair play if he gets back to what he did previously.


Yeah, absolutely. It's easily done. Who hasn't got pissed up/charlied up, got in their car, crashed head on into some innocent bystander's car, killed or seriously injured the occupants and done a runner without giving a fuck as to whether they are alive or dead?

Personally, that is my idea of a gooooooood Friday night out.

I think Lee Hughes is great and he's not low life scum at all 8)


well, if you have never driven over the limit then i'd say you are in a minority.he made a mistake with the worst possible outcome.


A bit over the limit!!!!!!!!

Made a mstake???????

Have you actually read anything about this case??? You make it sound like he scraped some one's car in Tesco's car park!

FWIW, in my younger days, I have been 'a bit over the limit'. That's all it was though (no that does not make it alright I know) I was lucky not to get caught. If I had, then I would have had to have faced the conseqences.  

Similarly, it sure as hell does not excuse Lee Hughes' actions. It is not in the same ball park as what that tosser did. It is not even on the same planet!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/3529270.stm

There you go. Have a read.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Arriba on Friday, August 24, 2007, 12:15:56
i never said a bit over the limit. yes it was a mistake.and i have read and heard about the case when it was in the news.
i aint defending him or glossing over what he did at all.but the amount of alcohol he had that night isn't known for a fact.also we all know our inhabtions go out the window when we've had a few.so i'm guessing this is what happend that night.
also ost,how do you know that you hadn't had more on the occasion you drove than what hughes did?fact is you dont,and if you knowingly drove when over the limit then you are hypocritical to slate hughes like you have.i dont think anyone  could say what we'd do if we were in the situation he got himself into.we can only imagine what was going through his mind when he realised the carnage he had caused.

he was completly stupid,panicked and was rightly put in prison.i think the guilt will never leave him,and he will carry the burden of what he did for the rest of his life. he's served the time sentenced to him by the courts so that is the way it is.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, August 24, 2007, 12:36:31
Quote from: "arriba"
you are hypocritical to slate hughes like you have.


No I'm not.


Title: Lee Hughes
Post by: Tails on Friday, August 24, 2007, 13:01:56
Hughes is a cunt, but the sentence was not his fault thats down to the penal system. In the eyes of the law he has done his time and hopefully he's learnt from his mistakes.

Won't stop me booing him though.