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Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:37:24

Just had a PM off them :D

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Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:38:14

if you broadcast live matches online it will soften the blow for some.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:39:57

Quote from: "arriba"

if you broadcast live matches online it will soften the blow for some.

without subscription fees.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: STFCBird on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:41:12

agreed.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:42:53

Quote from: "land_of_bo"

Quote from: "arriba"

if you broadcast live matches online it will soften the blow for some.

without subscription fees.

of course!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:46:09

Content wise on would hoppe for an improvement as whilst Rance is a scummer, Stainer used to be one of the top bods at Beeb Swindon.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:46:51

You have to be clear with what you specify though.

Online broadcasts for all, that work through Windows Media Player, with no subscriptions, no adverts and a commentator that knows what they are on about.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:48:55

Quote from: "arriba"

if you broadcast live matches online it will soften the blow for some.

Not possible is it though due to the contracts that are in place...

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:49:25

and no DRM

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:49:29

Quote from: "land_of_bo"

dont be too picky you cunt. :wink:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:49:55

I think we're asking for alot here! :D

I'd be happy if they broadcasted outside the actual town of Swindon!

For fucks sake, even Fatbury in Highworth can't listen :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:53:10

I don't want a scummer commentating on Swindon.

Sack him/her, please :)

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:54:05

Quote from: "arriba"

if you broadcast live matches online it will soften the blow for some.

Let's be honest here how many people who live outside the town want to be restricted to having to huddle around their computer on matchdays, I'm sure a lot of people like to have the radio on and be able to move around and do things while listening, and of course what about those without computers.

Although I am in Swindon so will not have a problem the people I feel for is those outside the town and that do not have internet access, as they probably do not know anything about this so they will tune to BBC RS come August and wonder what has gone on why there is no commentary, there are a lot of elderly supporters out there that cannot make it to games due to age, ability etc as well who rely on BBC RS.

This is just one big stink though, obviously Diamandis didn't like the coverage they was being given by Ed & Shaun - I'd like to see an explanation from stfc why they felt they needed to change.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 12:57:33

I agree with Ralphy here, I'm not too bothered about the quality of the coverage, I just want to be able to hear it. Though I would imagine there's little they can do for us in Didcot, which is just great, so all I will get will be Oxford or Reading local commentaries but not Swindon's

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: McLovin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:22:54

I only have a digital radio at home. This means i'll have to sit in my car if i fancy listening to any commentary.... hmmmm.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:27:16

Quote from: "glos_robin"

Quote from: "arriba"

if you broadcast live matches online it will soften the blow for some.

Not possible is it though due to the contracts that are in place...

Yep, spot on. Brunel will have to blank their streaming during matches and either their commentary will feature on STFC World or the club will do their own ... but either way, doing it for free and outside of the scope of Premium TV simply won't happen.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:31:28

I assumed that Brutal FM have a similar licence to other commercial stations and that is as a music station, ie it necessitates a % music in an hour, I wonder if this is the case and whether they've checked how much talking can be done in an hour. BBC Swindon is more talk radio and thus can do full comm, whereas say GWR - like Radio one is music radio and can't have that much chat in an hour.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 13:38:25

Smashey and nicey are the new commentary team

''Great save by Brezovan, mate''

''sure was mate''

''and here's The Kaiser Chiefs with Ruby''

''Fantastic, mate'' :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:02:25

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Smashey and nicey are the new commentary team

''Great save by Brezovan, mate''

''sure was mate''

''and here's The Kaiser Chiefs with Ruby''

''Fantastic, mate'' :D

I just laughed out loud Ralphy

Fair play

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:08:46

I'd like to know what Brunel FM are going to do to publicise the fact that they'll now be broadcasting the commentary.

My other halfs grandad likes to listen to the commentary as he potters about the garden on a Saturday afternoon, but I'm sure he'll get a bit of a shock when he tunes into BBC Swindon on the first day of the season to find no commentary, because no one's told him where it's moved to.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: land_of_bo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:13:54

Quote from: "sam_stfc"

Tell him then you selfish bastard!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:16:11

I have, but I was trying to make a point :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:20:17

I'm sure they'll advertise it plenty enough

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: TalkTalk on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:23:08

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I'm sure they'll advertise it plenty enough

Yep, probably on Brunel FM.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:26:40

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Smashey and nicey are the new commentary team

''Great save by Brezovan, mate''

''sure was mate''

''and here's The Kaiser Chiefs with Ruby''

''Fantastic, mate'' :D

:mrgreen:

Ralphy's best post ever

FACT

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 14:43:39

I hear the Adver are losing their exclusive player & manager interviews etc and have had the deal given to The Swindon Star, as stfc consider it a local paper as it only get distributed in Swindon.

Oh and that Jon Ritson asked too many awkward questions so Bowden arranged his transfer :shock:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:12:45

Think your see an ad campaign. Some people have jumped on thsio companies backs alittle too quick. Its been a few days since we found out anmd already people want to know whats happening with advertising etc. Considering the season is a few months away I think its harsh.

It also appears most of the people complaining about everything is the ones behind the orange campaign. I worry about the image your portraying by the amount you all moan.
I might become friends with Mav, at least he goes to games, cough simon cough

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:18:33

I don't think that's fair to lump the "orange" and this campaign together. That's crap.

Basically mate I am annoyed about the fact people out of town will not be able to hear commentary.

Personally in recent weeks I've prefered to concentrate on the footie than the protests and was looking to becom ea little more chilled, but this has pissed me off.

Nothing to do with Fans consortium/orange/my time of the month/ at all.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:20:56

Haha I'm not biting at that one.

and I saw more of the Rovers game than you did anyway Bushey :wink:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:23:02

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

How could people not be asking questions of Brunel FM, it makes perfect sense to me Ash.

Yes it's only been a few days, but people want questions answered and I think they've got every right to do so.

And what the hell do you mean about 'the image' we're portraying?

As for you getting on at us people involved with the Orange stuff, don't forget you we're out the back of the Arkells protesting as well.

You seem to be defending Brunel FM a little too much.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:24:33

I personally think part of the problem is how the club seem to have gone about it - if true not even allowing the Beeb to tender is madness. People have also heard the product - and whilst not may listen to BBC swindon outside a satuday afternoon they know what to expect form the football service. Brunel are a new station - albeit part of a larger group of stations yet from what people hear of the station it appears amateurish - despite some experience at the head of the station in terms of program control.

The bigest reason people are annoyed is the mass ignorance of the club in the area it's new media partner covers. I'd still be massively angry about it if they announced Adrian Chiles to be the presenter, with Alan Green Commentating and Alan Hansen doing the analysis, if you couldn't hear it in Highworth, Chippenham, Devizes or Salisbury then it's no use to a huge chunk fo Swindon fans.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:27:27

I've heard that "what's in the box" competition has ended, if it was that female's box, was the answer Bushey's todger?? :wink:

Seriously to be fair to the bloke, Bushey knows this bird and has defended her as I would defend a mate. I can see where you're coming from Bushey, about the moaning I mean, I suppose that was the reason I couldn't be arsed with this "no to the gas" stuff, my heart wasn't really in that, but this has got me back up a little.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:31:24

I do agree with the bit about the advertising though. Seems a little daft to me to be complaining about this already.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:33:27

We need to know if it is going to be full uniterumpted commentary and what they are going to do around it - and how they intend catering for the out of towners

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:37:35

Smashey and Nicey all the way.

'Swindon's better music mix with no talking, just football''

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 15:40:46

I don't blame Brunel FM for trying to improve their output, all the questions should point in one direction only really as it's not up to Brunel to satisfy people who are not likely to be it's listeners.

That said, I'm no fan of the station, reminds me a tiny GWR FM and I spent over 2 years having it pumped into my ears Monday to Friday when I worked for them.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:14:50

Ash, I want to be able to listen to the match without paying an extortionate fee and have to sit at my PC to do so. I believe that depriving fans that live outside of the local vicinity is absolutely out of order.

I don't blame Brunel, I don't think anyone does. The disappointment is aimed at the board who have just managed to piss off a significant number of their fans by trying to make a quick buck.

Is that wrong?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:19:13

Spot on Sonic.

I want to listen to post match interviews and reaction in my car on the way home.

I lose the BBC Radio Swindon signal when i get to Burford not Stratton which it will be with Brunel.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:37:20

Right, maybe the bit about the orange thing was a bit hasty. Will try and put my views across though:-

The bit I said about Orange, what im trying to say is I think its got to the stage anything the board try and do is jumped on with a tonne of bricks instantly without looking at whether what they did is a good thing. The whole thing is starting to make it look like a school groups bullying tactic (slate me but thats my opinion) Yeah I was at the back so were about 60 but not after a microphone was pulled out making jokes not actually protesting. That bit royally fucked me off and I made the decision to not get involved anymore. Not slating anyone in particular but if you want to succeed you need to become more professional.

Onto Brunel FM, firstly my todger hasnt been there in a bloody long time, and wont ever be returning. The Club have announced this and maybe havn't given the company time to provide a total programme break down, look into conflicts of interests (such as STFC World) etc. You all expect answers instantly however the company may have other things to do at this time (like set up a presenter maybe work out how the tecnical side will be worked, maybe even manage the current business) We do not know how much money they have paid so why slate the club, maybe it made STFC £50k where as BBC maybe paid 5k. Is that bad business I dont think so.

I do feel bad for the out of town fans however I feel you should hold comments until August when we see what solutions they may come up with. They are a year old and maybe expanding who knows

I also feel bad about Ed Hadwin however whats to say change isnt a good thing? No offence to anyone at BBC however lets look at it another way. Some people here say power to be in control of STFC would be good, me included, some old school boys who support the current board say why do we need change. The same may be said in this argument, double standards maybe??

I am no way connected to Brunel FM however have started to look at STFC outside the box.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:38:20

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Spot on Sonic.

I want to listen to post match interviews and reaction in my car on the way home.

I lose the BBC Radio Swindon signal when i get to Burford not Stratton which it will be with Brunel.

Currently with Brunel, how about you wait till August?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:40:46

Quote from: "simon pieman"

Haha I'm not biting at that one.

and I saw more of the Rovers game than you did anyway Bushey :wink:

I went to the pub in Bath for a pint and got made to walk all day by the police. Twat

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:47:30

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "simon pieman"

Haha I'm not biting at that one.

and I saw more of the Rovers game than you did anyway Bushey :wink:

I went to the pub in Bath for a pint and got made to walk all day by the police. Twat

I don't see he my non-attendance of a few games has anything to do with Brunel obtaining the media rights.

It's got about as much to do with it as your trek round Bristol with the police, which is why I brought up the subject.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:47:54

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Spot on Sonic.

I want to listen to post match interviews and reaction in my car on the way home.

I lose the BBC Radio Swindon signal when i get to Burford not Stratton which it will be with Brunel.

Currently with Brunel, how about you wait till August?

What you saying?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:52:13

Si - its the way you all bring up anti board stuff on everything

Ralph - Perhaps they will expand, maybe grow maybe buy other stations.

Cant everyone wait till Brunel actually respond

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:53:57

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

my todger hasnt been there in a bloody long time, and wont ever be returning. The Club have announced this

Not sure what its got to do with them....but I never believe a word they say anyway.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:56:02

Ha ha ha

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:56:02

Brunel might buy the whole of Swindon :o

They will control the town :o

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:57:12

To be fair though Bushey what are Brunel going to do - expand their coverage from "five miles around Swindon" to "whole of Wiltshire, plus chunks of Gloucs, Oxon, Somerset etc" by August? Not very likely really is it? If they do have plans to do that, then great - but it should have been in the announcement to allay what is a wholly predictable furore. But then if you don't have those plans, then you can't put it in the announcement can you?

And no, none of that is Brunel's fault - as Rob has said they've seen an opportunity to promote their radio station and taken it. And good luck to them. It's not their job to worry about the club's relationship with it's supporters.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:57:56

Surely before announcing this they should have done there homework and known of the key issues and prepared their answers. Responding with 'ooooo ahhhh we don't know at present we'll have to find out' doesn't exactly portray a professional image.

The board are to blame for this but Brunel are going to take some flak as they've became 'partners'. There is no real way around the internet commentary thing as if the BBC couldn't find a way around it some 2-bit local radio station surely won't.......This move is a kick in the teeth for a large % of our fanbase!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 16:58:35

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Si - its the way you all bring up anti board stuff on everything

Ralph - Perhaps they will expand, maybe grow maybe buy other stations.

Cant everyone wait till Brunel actually respond

i think it's fair for fans to expect that upon launch of this new partnership that the infrastructure should have been in place in advance to answer all the queries that will obviously arise.

as far as expansion goes, i think the license they have only entitles them to a certain level of coverage, which would make growth a little bit difficult.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:00:00

This could just go on and on.......

I just hope Brunel come up with something soon to make everyone happy

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:00:54

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Si - its the way you all bring up anti board stuff on everything

Ralph - Perhaps they will expand, maybe grow maybe buy other stations.

Cant everyone wait till Brunel actually respond

Be fair mate, I haven't exactly had much to say on the subject and I certainly haven't brought up any anti-board stuff regarding this issue. Go back through the threads if you wish.

All I've really said is that if people think that the station or the reporters was gash last year then I think it's a fair enough opinion.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:01:11

So do i or i'm blaming you Ash.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:02:05

Quote from: "lebowski"

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Si - its the way you all bring up anti board stuff on everything

Ralph - Perhaps they will expand, maybe grow maybe buy other stations.

Cant everyone wait till Brunel actually respond

Im not sure on it all but think that with 3 montsh till new season they need time to deal with it.

In a normal business youd expect a infrastructure however this is STFC and the board, right;y or wrongly probably didnt think of it

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:02:41

But the announcment has been rushed out I suspect as soon as the deal was done - as I suspect Brunel was happy with it as it adds to their publicity, unfortunetly they are getting caught in the cross fire, I suspect they did not envisage this reaction..either stfc or Brunel so it has probably caught them cold.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:03:02

Si was just replying to your post.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: TalkTalk on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:04:19

I'm going to go round everybody's houses in Swindon and put little stickers over 107.7MHz FM on the dial so nobody can find it.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:05:55

Quote from: "TalkTalk"

I'm going to go round everybody's houses in Swindon and put little stickers over 107.7MHz FM on the dial so nobody can find it.

I think you only need to do it on the houses with BMWs outside :soapy tit wank:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:08:21

Boom Boom

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:09:59

I'm confused (Nothing new!)

If you don't live in Swindon, like me, you can go online and listen to away games via SW. If you live in Swindon, you can listen on the radio.

For news and interviews exclusive to Brunel FM, you can listen to the radio in Swindon, or go online if not in Swindon.

What am I missing?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:12:25

The coverage of radio wiltshire spills out into further surrounding areas. some people cannot even listen to Brunel in Highworth because the reception is poor

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:13:58

Quote from: "herthab"

What am I missing?

The fact you have to pay for STFC world?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:14:09

For me its the not even speaking to wilts sound that has pissed me off,How do they know they would not have offered more money?

It stinks of you have asked us too many questions close to the bone so kindly fuck off

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:14:28

Quote from: "herthab"

If you don't live in Swindon, like me, you can go online and listen to away games via SW.

I think that's the point hertha

why should people be forced into subscribing to STFC World, when they are clearly in a broadcast area for the BBC but cannot get coverage of BBC WS/RS

No consultation with the fans once more.

The only consultation there has been was about the kit and the badge, and they were both decided prior to any poll being issued (in my opinion like)

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:14:32

My dad's wireless he uses outside to listen to the radio has 'LUX' under one of the frequencies.

Old school or what :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:14:49

I think Bushey Boy is behind the whole thing. Evil Bushey :twisted:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:14:53

Quote from: "simon pieman"

The coverage of radio wiltshire spills out into further surrounding areas. some people cannot even listen to Brunel in Highworth because the reception is poor

Well it doesn't fuckin' spill out to Somerset!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:16:14

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "simon pieman"

The coverage of radio wiltshire spills out into further surrounding areas. some people cannot even listen to Brunel in Highworth because the reception is poor

Well it doesn't fuckin' spill it to Somerset!

So it makes no difference to you, it makes no difference to me either, but you must be able to see why a lot of people are annoyed.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:16:53

a) you're shit out of luck if you have a DAB

b) you're shit out of luck if you dont have the net and you're outside the broadcast range

c) you're shit out of luck if you DO have the net, cos they wont be allowed to broadcast iot online due to the deal with SwindonWorld, unless you wanna pay £4 a month.

do i need to continue hertab?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:18:48

I think we should all wear orange and go behind the Arkells with a microphone and crack jokes and stuff

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:20:11

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I think Bushey Boy is behind the whole thing. Evil Bushey :twisted:

It was a good investment :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:20:38

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I think we should all wear orange and go behind the Arkells with a microphone and crack jokes and stuff

If im totally honest that did actually really piss me off that day

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:21:15

I bet you're the mystery investor in the football club too!

Have you heard about the new radio investment tax Bushey?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:21:18

Exactly macca, I left and had a pint as I thought 'fucking pathetic. Still do to this day

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Hexagon on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:21:23

Double posting

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:21:37

d) I'm shit out of luck because even though I'd pay for it, I can't get STFC World as I've got a Mac.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:22:03

Quote from: "Leggett"

a) you're shit out of luck if you have a DAB

b) you're shit out of luck if you dont have the net and you're outside the broadcast range

c) you're shit out of luck if you DO have the net, cos they wont be allowed to broadcast iot online due to the deal with SwindonWorld, unless you wanna pay £4 a month.

do i need to continue hertab?

That's actually the same as it was with BBC RS.

The Pieman's put me straight, it's a local problem for local people :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Hexagon on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:22:21

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "simon pieman"

The coverage of radio wiltshire spills out into further surrounding areas. some people cannot even listen to Brunel in Highworth because the reception is poor

Well it doesn't fuckin' spill out to Somerset!

I can actually get a BBC Radio Swindon signal in Bicester 10 miles north of Oxford.
If it weren't for that i would have missed Brez's opening day double penalty saves.
Clearly it wont be the same with Brunel.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:23:09

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I bet you're the mystery investor in the football club too!

Have you heard about the new radio investment tax Bushey?

Bastards, more tax? Actually I was screwing today, not only do I have to pay 17k for my new women at work, then I have to pay 12.8% on top in national insurnace. Bloody con

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:23:54

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "Leggett"

That's actually the same as it was with BBC RS.

The Pieman's put me straight, it's a local problem for local people :D

correct, but at least people outside of a 5 mile radius can actually GET BBC RS!!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:27:58

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I bet you're the mystery investor in the football club too!

Have you heard about the new radio investment tax Bushey?

Bastards, more tax? Actually I was screwing today, not only do I have to pay 17k for my new women at work, then I have to pay 12.8% on top in national insurnace. Bloody con

Guess you never heard about Employer's NI contributions eh? Bummer.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Leggett on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:29:26

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I bet you're the mystery investor in the football club too!

Have you heard about the new radio investment tax Bushey?

Bastards, more tax? Actually I was screwing today, not only do I have to pay 17k for my new women at work, then I have to pay 12.8% on top in national insurnace. Bloody con

you pay £17k to screw a girl at work? some people have too much money... ;)

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:32:00

Quote from: "Leggett"

you pay £17k to screw a girl at work? some people have too much money... ;)

I dunno, not bad for a whole years worth of screwing!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 17:32:33

Quote from: "Leggett"

Quote from: "herthab"

Quote from: "Leggett"

That's actually the same as it was with BBC RS.

The Pieman's put me straight, it's a local problem for local people :D

correct, but at least people outside of a 5 mile radius can actually GET BBC RS!!

Even my Dad in Poole can get a broken signal on BBC RS, it cuts into BBC Bristol too, but he gets the general gist of things. it's the naivety of the club in signing the deal that annoys people - the well documented out of Towners - especially within Wiltshire have been ignored for a few quid. People are also naturally sceptical as it's not even gone to GWR who reach most of Wiltshire and are the lesser of teh two commericla evils, but 'the poor mans GWR' who have a tiny audience share and are generally regarded as having a 'gash output'.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:18:54

Quote from: "Sussex Red"

d) I'm shit out of luck because even though I'd pay for it, I can't get STFC World as I've got a Mac.

Ditto, Sussex. I have one of the old PowerPC iBooks too so even if I wanted to install Windows (which I wouldn't anyway) I can't! New Intel ones can do both but I refuse to pay £900 JUST because of the STFC board ....

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:26:46

Quote from: "Chris BS32"

Quote from: "Sussex Red"

d) I'm shit out of luck because even though I'd pay for it, I can't get STFC World as I've got a Mac.

Think you can get it if you've got OSX, but my G4 is on OS9 and to upgrade all the software for work I'd be looking at a few grand. No can do!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:29:21

Quote from: "Sussex Red"

Quote from: "Chris BS32"

Quote from: "Sussex Red"

d) I'm shit out of luck because even though I'd pay for it, I can't get STFC World as I've got a Mac.

Think you can get it if you've got OSX, but my G4 is on OS9 and to upgrade all the software for work I'd be looking at a few grand. No can do!

Loyal supporters :wink:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:38:09

No, you can't. They have put DRM on the streaming which neither the old Windows Media Player or Flip4Mac can cope with ....

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:39:42

you could just get a cheap lap top for football purposes...or move :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 18:57:39

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

you could just get a cheap lap top for football purposes...or move :D

Well, if I had £300 quid handy I'd get a season ticket ... as things stand, I never have the cash this time of year ... soapy tit wank ... I've been promising to get one for about the past 10 years now.

Moving. Hmmm. Not sure I wanna commute back to Bristol every day!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:24:54

I think having a go at the decision makers within the club over this is entirely reasonable, so I will continue to do so thank you very much.

I do not see Brunel FM as being in any way culpable, or a problem for that matter.

Every decision the Board make will get scrutinised and judgements made following it, it's not bullying tactics at all. Lets take a couple of recent examples:

a) Bristol Rovers - did not knock them to start with as not that bothered, following continued trouble it became clear it was avery bad idea, knocked them for not speaking to fans in any event to get an idea of how we felt

b) Radio deal - shit for the future marketing strategy the club itself unveiled, simple as. Shit for all those who lose out. Not Brunel FM's issue though.

c) £5 ticket for Mansfield - great idea and gave them credit for using it, worked a treat, more of the same please.

So, I am more than capable of basing my opinions on reason and not just because I fancy dicking some weakling around.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:28:55

Your in the minority Rob, agree with all your points although as BBC are not aloud to do anything commercial id say being with brunel may help the commercial aspect of teh club, agree?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:32:13

they didn't need to sell the exclusive commentary rights to broadcast ads on brunelfm

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:35:25

Dont mean ads, I mean joint ventures, joint advertising, joint events

Publicise the club etc

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:36:46

they could still that. the difference is they wouldn't be able to make as much money out of it.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:37:53

Or would it cost them to do it if they didnt help each other out?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:38:25

If it's a tie in with a Commercial media partner they wanted then I'm sorry to say they chose the wrong one. Brunel have limited scope due to the licensing restrictions placed upon them so there would only be one choice and that's GWR (as much as it pains me).

GWR have 400k listeners across the West part of the Group (the 4 frequencies carrying the GWR name itself). With a tie in at Swindon's station they can also double up on the West Wilts frequency, the brand is much more recognisable and they have far more in the way of infrastructure and experience.

Any media deal must be done with the overall Marketing strategy in mind, which is allegedly to broaden the clubs appeal to a wider geographical area. Limiting to Brunel does not achieve this (GWR also have a frequency covering Newbury with the 2-Ten transmitter).

Sorry, just don't see any argument in favour of the deal from the clubs angle. Brunel for their part probably thought they'd played a blinder here, being such a small and young company and getting such an early in on a deal to expand their name. The poor sods just couldn't have been clued in enough to spot the massive pitfall they were about to face. I would say they will come out of it ok though in a few months time, unlike the Board for which this will become another in a long line of sticks people can shake at them.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Hexagon on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:38:47

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Dont mean ads, I mean joint ventures, joint advertising, joint events

Publicise the club etc

Didn't they do that kinda stuff with GWR though already?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:39:01

Maybe, it will only be within the Brunel FM catchment area though. So it's swings and roundabouts. Gain a few ££/people here lose a few there.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:42:33

Rob you clearly know more about the ins and outs of it, I am simply trying to see it fom their point of view. They are a new company and as someone said in another thread the town does seem to like this station. I dont know why as they arent that good in my opinion however they are getting about a bit.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:42:38

Quote from: "Hexagon"

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Dont mean ads, I mean joint ventures, joint advertising, joint events

Publicise the club etc

Didn't they do that kinda stuff with GWR though already?

Yes but I bet GWR were not as likely to just accept any old deal, they probably would be a lot more savvy and the club know it. They can influence Brunel much more, which normally would be a good thing for a business, if only they had decent coverage in comparison I'm afraid.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:43:55

Has anyone listened to Brunel?

Who are thier main advertisors in Swindon?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:44:52

Dont suggest a boycott! :)

Actually a lot of letting agents do it, lets do this.....

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:46:20

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Brunel are very similar to GWR about 20 years ago, unfortunately they are a bit late into the market I think and so can't hope to repeat the same success (GWR is a huge group now competing with the biggies in the UK). If I worked for them I'd have gone after this deal, that's for sure, it's about the only thing they can really do to get a competitive advantage over an established name.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:48:09

Brunel are part of a bigish group Rob.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:48:29

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

Has anyone listened to Brunel?

Who are thier main advertisors in Swindon?

I don't think their listener figures are high enough for that to be of any real use. Can't even see them in the RAJAR figures for March and their sister companies barely scrape 15000 listeners in some cases.

It'll be the same old ones as GWR, the overall Group getting in the Nationals and the local station getting Pine and Cane

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:48:25

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Or would it cost them to do it if they didnt help each other out?

I'm sure if the club offered Brunel some boards on pitchside for nothing and perhaps some commercial match day perks they could have got some ads on the station for next to nothing if that's what they wanted.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:49:25

Quote from: "RobertT"

Rob, they probably won't be in this Rajar sweep as the station hasn't been on air long enough. Should be in the September one.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:50:10

Quote from: "RobertT"

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

Has anyone listened to Brunel?

Who are thier main advertisors in Swindon?

Well if you take protests to the people paying to advertise on the station they would habve to think twice as to whether its worth carrying on

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:50:19

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

Brunel are part of a bigish group Rob.

Well, they're no GCap (GWR) or Emap ...

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:50:37

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

Brunel are part of a bigish group Rob.

Not really, they are radio small fry. The rest of the market is covered by about 3 groups who own shit loads of the established frequency stations. GWR own the M4 and M5 radio stations for example plus Classic and host of Digital stations. A much bigger overall company than STFC, agreed, but not big in radio.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: lebowski on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:51:53

are GCap the biggest radio group in the country? they must certainly be one of them.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:52:27

Good god, listen to me, that's what 2-3 years working for them does to you. :shock:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Hexagon on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:52:54

Quote from: "RobertT"

Quote from: "Hexagon"

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Dont mean ads, I mean joint ventures, joint advertising, joint events

Publicise the club etc

Didn't they do that kinda stuff with GWR though already?

I understand what you mean.
But they could just have carried on with BBC Swindon and ran GWR for the fun days on the side.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:53:30

Quote from: "lebowski"

are GCap the biggest radio group in the country? they must certainly be one of them.

Yes, they are.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: spacey on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 19:58:31

They failed my cheese test. They are not to be trusted.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:03:19

I think this has gone so far that OST might have to do something :shock:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:03:47

Every polish/pakistani /somalian taxi i get into listens to brunel some of those drivers dont know how to get to the county ground let alone fucking know what they are advertising

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:12:04

Quote from: "red macca"

Every polish/pakistani /somalian taxi i get into listens to brunel some of those drivers dont know how to get to the county ground let alone fucking know what they are advertising

Its a funny old world innit.....I know how to get to the CG but not BunuelFM.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:13:46

Ive had an email back from Brunel

I said

Quote

As I am sure you are know doubt aware your recent tie in with Stfc has left the supporters with many questions that we feel we desperatly need answering.

Coverage..

You only are able to transmit to Swindon are there any plans to transmit to the surrounding areas via analogue radio i.e Marlborough,Devizes,Chippenham,etc all places that were able to listen to the game via the BBC.If not have yourself and the club discussed a possible sharing of the games so that maybe those and other places will still be covered.STFC has many older peiople that rely on this service to get thier away game fix and do not have access to Broadband.

Editorial Freedom.

Can you confirm that you have complete editorial freedom with regards to your STFC output?Call me cynical but the snide back handing way this has been dealt with makes me worry that you have promised to only cover STFC stories that are board friendly or perhaps endorsed by those at SN1.Will you be completely impartial and will you voice criticism of the board if and when the supporters raise issues?

Personally I think it may be a nice idea if you were to either come on one of the forums either www.thetownend.com or the trust or adver site and answer questions that we have at an arranged time..lets have it out once and for all and stop all this speculation and bad feeling that is festering towards the club and more importantly to your radio station.Alternativly schedule an emergency phone in your radio station and here our views.

We as a fan base will not be fobbed off by either you or the club I look forward to your reply

regards

Jamie Robus

and they said

Quote

Jamie

Thanks for your email. I’m sure as a fanbase, you do have a lot of questions, we’re 2 working days into the announcement and I’m working through all the issues that are being raised.

Let me tackle your email one point at a time.

Regarding “Editorial Freedom”… We are neither pro or anti the Swindon board. We are neither pro or anti the Trust. The one thing we are; is pro Swindon as a place and pro Swindon Town FC, both on the pitch and in the community.

We will give a balanced view on every aspect of Swindon Town FC. We will ask the difficult questions when they need to be asked, but it is not our business to deliberately build a story out of nothing. We are impartial and the Swindon Town FC board do not dictate editorial control over us. I want Swindon Town FC to be a success in every aspect of their business and as a station for the town of Swindon and outlying areas, we want to support and celebrate any success.

“Coverage”… Our current transmission area is a lot bigger than most people think. We don’t just cover the town… if you travel down the M4 you can get us Chievely Services and down to Bath. The station can also be heard in Marlborough, Malmesbury, Cirencester, Lyneham, Highworth and Wootton Bassett. I recently checked these in my car on a drive around the county. I’m currently looking at potential opportunities to extend the distance that it covers.

Please don’t think that now Brunel FM has been awarded coverage rights, I’m sat on my hands thinking, well the fans will get what they’re given. This isn’t the case at all. I’m listening to all comments… well some of them at least. I’m picking my way through the minefield of insults and soapbox rants to get to the heart of the concerns.

I’m currently in the process of employing a commentary team (can I add that I will not be commentating, I’m a radio presenter and programme controller, not a commentator) I’m looking to find professionals who also happen to be proper passionate Town fans and to give you a better service than you’ve been used to .

I don’t think that the radio station has fobbed anyone off… I’ve published my email address and work telephone number on thisisstfc giving anyone the opportunity to contact myself or Keith Stainer directly, currently everyone who reads the forums has had the opportunity to speak to us directly. Between us, we’ve taken 3 calls and received 10 emails I’ve been as open and honest as possible and have replied to everyone who has taken the time to speak to me. I’m aware that forums are a place for a group of like-minded people to discuss their thoughts and views on different situations, but all have had the chance to speak to me. I’ve even invited one fan and a select number of friends into the radio station to meet with us.

I’ve been putting together a FAQ sheet which should go live on both Brunel FM and official Swindon website tomorrow. As for entering into a forum debate, it will probably be something I look to do in the future, I’m sure you can appreciate that due to the sensitivity of the announcement, It is from now that I’m able to put plans recruitment and solve fans issues. If you could give me a few weeks, as I’m working hard at making sure we get this right.

If you have any other questions, please feel free to contact me…

Hope this helps

Craig

Craig Rance

Programme Controller

Swindon’s 107.7 Brunel FM

Which to be honest is a decent enough reply in my book...we will see

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:18:42

I just got a very strange deja vu then and I don't mean metaphorically, this all seems really familiar.

Weird :o

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:18:53

Fair play Yeovil

and can I just say (cue cries of WTF)

Fair play to Brunel for getting back to you in such a way

As always......the proof of the pudding

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sussex on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:22:09

If they can extend coverage to Burgess Hill I'll be happy :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:32:26

Quote

“Coverage”… Our current transmission area is a lot bigger than most people think. We don’t just cover the town… if you travel down the M4 you can get us Chievely Services and down to Bath. The station can also be heard in Marlborough, Malmesbury, Cirencester, Lyneham, Highworth and Wootton Bassett. I recently checked these in my car on a drive around the county. I’m currently looking at potential opportunities to extend the distance that it covers.

Not exactly scientific is it?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:34:30

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote

Not exactly scientific is it?

unless he buys us all cars the same as his with the same radio 8)

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:34:40

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote

Not exactly scientific is it?

What are the odds that his car was similar to Radio Swindons, only using the big transmitter beam as his antenna :roll:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:37:03

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote

Not exactly scientific is it?

unless he buys us all cars the same as his with the same radio 8)

And goes out at the same time, in the same weather and atmospheric conditions.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:38:08

Chievely Services, hmmm. Couldn't hear them much past Membury on Saturday so I am surprised. Is it true Whits. Can you get Brunel? Is he sure he hadn't tuned in to Kestrel on 107.6 by accident.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:39:20

They cant win with you lot

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:40:46

I quite like the idea of fleets of Swindon fans driving from J13 to J16 fiddling with their radios when we are away up north :mrgreen:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:43:31

It could be like the old illegal raves someone could phone up and say "got a signal in a field behind Membury" and off we all head 8)

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:44:07

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

It could be like the old illegal raves someone could phone up and say "got a signal in a field behind Membury" and off we all head 8)

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:44:37

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

It could be like the old illegal raves someone could phone up and say "got a signal in a field behind Membury" and off we all head 8)

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I spat coke all over my screen then.

Fair play.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: spacey on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:47:39

I'm in Ciren, and I can get it. It's fuzzy but I can hear it.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:48:13

Can someone leave a walkie talkie next to their radio when we're playing away and then i can hear the commentary here in scummer land.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:49:58

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Can someone leave a walkie talkie next to their radio when we're playing away and then i can hear the commentary here in scummer land.

What the townends own online pirate commentary station.........'Radio Ralph'

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:50:58

CRAIG RANCES CAR

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/FredElliot_2006/cardish.jpg

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:51:51

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"

CRAIG RANCES CAR

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n70/FredElliot_2006/cardish.jpg

He'll get you done for stalking now

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:57:47

107.9 FM here is Fusion FM :?

No Brunel.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:58:54

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

They cant win with you lot

Just because you went out with the radio worker. Stop sticking up for them.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 20:59:33

Quote from: "Ralphy"

107.9 FM here is Fusion FM :?

No Brunel.

Try 107.7 ;)

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:00:28

I did, just fuss with interference from Fusion.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:01:07

Then you are stuffed :(

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:03:06

Quote from: "blinkpip"

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

They cant win with you lot

Just because you went out with the radio worker. Stop sticking up for them.

Why should I? Its nowt to do with that, maybe I am just being fair, ive said its out of order out of towners cant get the station, Ive also been fair in parts.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:03:18

As I understand things RAJAR figures are survey based - the more surverys you pay for the mrore accurate your listening figures are. Currently Brunel don't get their own figures and fall into the 5% audience share allocated to 'others' outside the main stations. GWR had an agreed media partner deal last season - allowing them to do the family fun days etc, whilst being cordial with BBC Swindon who offered the more comprehensive package - this has obviously ended now- they did short match updates - their licence doesn't allow for full commentary even if they wanted it to. Whether they were invited to tender either is open to debate - clearly the Beeb say they weren't so I have no idea whether GWR would have been.

GCap who own GWR and are based in Swindon are a huge group owning Capital, BRMB, XFm Red Dragon, Classic FM - ie all the biggest commerical stations in the UK - so they are the biggest players in the market - couple that with the vast listenership; the largest station in Wiltshire (of which I am not one) then they look as commercial stations go as a considerably better option in terms of a commercial partnership than 'tinpot' (relatively) Brunel. However given the perilous finances across all commercial media at the moment it is hard to see how either party was exactly throwing their money at the club.

GWR and the Beeb both do some decent coverage of the Ice Hockey and Speedway though - all part of Bowdens holy trinity that was being promoted - ie talks of combined tickets etc. Now forgive my stupidity but by in effect closing those two radio stations access to STFC this 'partnership' (was it in Bowdens head?) has been scuppered from a media point of view.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:07:33

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "blinkpip"

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

They cant win with you lot

Just because you went out with the radio worker. Stop sticking up for them.

Why should I? Its nowt to do with that, maybe I am just being fair, ive said its out of order out of towners cant get the station, Ive also been fair in parts.

Don't listen to him blinkpip. He's top brass at Brunel.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:10:28

Their budget wouldnt even cover my wages ralph to be fair :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:12:14

Probally right.

Rich cunt.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:14:53

Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"

Quote

Not exactly scientific is it?

Fair play to them for getting back - no bad feelings to them, they seem a nice bunch.

I would, though, query the claim you can get the station as far as Bath. I sure as fuck can't get it less than ten miles further in north Brizzle.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:15:59

Was a joke Rlph

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:16:08

Why have you changed you're name Chris?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:17:03

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Why have you changed you're name Chris?

Why not? I was bored with the old one.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:19:02

Strange chap.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:20:44

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Strange chap.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

yeah, probably.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:39:52

FYI i live in Chieveley and no you can't get 107.70 not sure where it starts on the m4 though

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:44:35

Quote from: "Whits"

FYI i live in Chieveley and no you can't get 107.70 not sure where it starts on the m4 though

Middle lane, westbound, just past J14

Try it

You need to be sat down and static though

:wink:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:45:27

Between J14 (hungerford) and membury services. It's a bit patchy so maybe further if the wind is blowing in the right direction.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:50:02

Quote from: "Fred Elliot"

Quote from: "Whits"

FYI i live in Chieveley and no you can't get 107.70 not sure where it starts on the m4 though

Middle lane, westbound, just past J14

Try it

You need to be sat down and static though

:wink:

thats not cheiveley then :P

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:56:02

I've got nothing against Brunel or Craig Rance personally, though I was disappointed at the response I got. I'd ring him but frankly I've got better things to do.

My main concern is that many fans without internet access who were previously able to tune into Radio Swindon will be unable to listen to commentary whatsoever. I refuse to fork out for STFCWorld as whenever I've had the misfortune to rely upon it for coverage, it has been woeful - if it's worked at all. Why should I now have to pay for something which I could previously get for free? In the unlikely event that the PremiumTV deal doesn't prevent Brunel from broadcasting live commentary over the internet then whilst it is an improvement on nothing at all, it still leaves many fans without access - finding a PC to listen to the game on simply isn't convenient for a lot of people.

The point which irks me most is that the club appears to have not taken any of these points into consideration and seen an(other) opportunity to make some money and have duly cashed in. Absolutely no consultation with the fans whatsoever and scarce communication subsequent to the announcement to quell the concerns that are currently rife.

I sincerely hope Brunel can improve their broadcasting range sufficiently so that fans like myself and many others will be able to listen to live commentary of games we are unable to attend.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 21:58:17

No mate

tried it tonight on the way back from the smoke.

Managed to get it between the Hungerford turn off and Membury.

I was in a queue and not moving and picked it up.

As soon as the traffic started flowing again I lost it until I got to J15

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mexico red on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:04:48

cant pick it up in sussex, fuckers. but i so would the reporter.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:04:55

As I've said before I get Radio Swindon crystal clear in Tewkesbury which is on the border between Gloucestershire and Worcestershire (40 miles from Swindon) so was great for me. Strictly speaking I suppose I shouldn't have got Radio Swindon either but somehow I have and it really has been a godsend.

Brunel however there is no chance I will get anything and it seems this is a similar problem for a large number of Wilshire residents which is not an acceptable situation.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:06:18

Quote from: "mexico red"

cant pick it up in sussex, fuckers. but i so would the reporter.

Nothing to do with the usernames currently browsing the forum i bet :twisted:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:17:45

Why is the broadcast range so fucking shit?

The Oxford answer to Brunel is Fox FM.

You can pick this up clearly in Swindon, Reading, MK and nearly Stratford Upon Avon!!!

A broadcast range from Oxford of about 50 miles.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:21:05

I'd say GWR FM was more likely the equivalent of Fox FM...

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:23:00

Fair enough but you get my point?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:26:41

Oh yeah.

But the broadcast range is shit because they only opened last year, or that's what I'd imagine anyway.

Why don't we all chip in and buy them a huge radio mast so even Swindon's small but very much real Californian fan base can hear? :mrgreen:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:27:56

Brunel FM is part of the Local Radio Company which runs these other stations..

Alpha 103.2, 107.8 Arrow FM, Bath FM, Brunel FM, Central 103.1 FM, Dune FM, Durham FM, Home 107.9, Isle of Wight Radio, Ivel FM, Minster FM, Mix 107, Mix 96, 107.4 The Quay, 106.9 Silk FM, 107.5 Sovereign Radio, Spire FM, Spirit FM, 97.2 Stray FM, Sun FM, 3TR FM, 2BR, Vale FM, Wessex FM, Yorkshire Coast Radio, Fire 107.6

Facinating eh?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:30:34

I'm not really up on these matters but perhaps Brunel FM could post an answer?

What needs to be done to extend the broadcast range?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 22:36:54

Quote from: "Ralphy"

I'm not really up on these matters but perhaps Brunel FM could post an answer?

What needs to be done to extend the broadcast range?

Spend a small fortune? get a better license?

Basically the market is pretty saturated so they very rarely give out new licences and the ones they do are much more restricted I think, like Brunel's. I guess by being tied to Swindon they can offer something GWR can't, hence being allowed to broadcast (GWR is not quite so targetted on locale).

Anyway, we are asking the wrong people. It's not their fault they got the deal

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pumbaa on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 23:05:56

Quote from: "sonic youth"

Nail. Head. Hit.

I have no option but to pay for STFC World if I want to listen to live commentary. I have had this service for the past four years, and have frankly seen little improvement in the quality of the transmission in that time period. If anyone cares to read through the Walsall match day thread, you will note that the commentary was not available until 10 minutes into the 2nd half - after Ifil's goal. Most unsatisfactory for such an important game.

I shall continue to rely on STFC World service as I have no other option, but can clearly see the impact of this deal on others. For this reason alone, I am challenging the club to explain themselves.

[Of course that is based on the assumption that the deal with Brunel FM is within the T&C of the Premium TV arrangement - I have asked the club to confirm this and await an answer]

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: deltaincline on Tuesday, May 22, 2007, 23:32:20

All this radio station shite is doing my fucking head in.

A question to the guys on here who clearly know how the radio industry works: Why is Brunel FM's area broadcast coverage (signal strength) so shite that it fails to reach the outlying ares of the county?

Ryder: AFAIK, Brunel FM use the same studio / transmitter in Wootton Bassett that another high-profile broadcaster used to occupy until fairly recently. So what's changed?

Bushey: Have you metamorphised into Garry Stanley?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 07:15:22

Spire FM is the shittest radio station on Earth. Fact.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 08:06:11

Quote from: "deltaincline"

Ryder: AFAIK, Brunel FM use the same studio / transmitter in Wootton Bassett that another high-profile broadcaster used to occupy until fairly recently. So what's changed?

Their studio is at the Lime Kiln, yes. Transmitter-wise they might well be using Blunsden but at a much lower power than GWR/BBC.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 08:13:40

Fair play to them for coming back to you Yeovil, it's a shame that mr Starnes hasn't got back to any supporters so quickly on the same subject.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 08:26:19

Quote from: "deltaincline"

I think it's a licensing restriction in the main, could be wrong. They were given it to provide a service to Swindon, not Wiltshire, hence all there marketing guff harps on about how they want success for Swindon and it's community etc. They have a sister company covering just Bath as well.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: deltaincline on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 08:39:34

Quote

Their studio is at the Lime Kiln, yes. Transmitter-wise they might well be using Blunsden but at a much lower power than GWR/BBC.

Why can't they just crank up the power in Blusdon then? I appreciate that thet'll need to get permission from the radio authorities, but it cant be that difficult, can it?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 08:42:09

Correct RobT - they are licensed for Swindon, Beeb Swindon/wiltshire are licensed for the whole of wilts - and obviously here is an unavoidable overlap to Gloucs, Oxon, Dorset etc. GWR are for most of Wiltshire but because of GWR Bath and Bristol and stations to the South of the county within their group they don't quite reach the very southernmost points or outposts of the county.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 09:07:44

Quote from: "deltaincline"

Quote

Their studio is at the Lime Kiln, yes. Transmitter-wise they might well be using Blunsden but at a much lower power than GWR/BBC.

Why can't they just crank up the power in Blusdon then? I appreciate that thet'll need to get permission from the radio authorities, but it cant be that difficult, can it?

Yes, it can. They bought I licence for a certain area - and at a certain power - you can't just go and "crank up the power"

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 09:16:47

Quote from: "deltaincline"

#

Not quite yet. Sorry to dissapoint

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Leggett on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 09:34:13

it is indeed, they play the same bloody songs as each other, and some of the shows are the same.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:27:55

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "deltaincline"

#

Not quite yet. Sorry to dissapoint

Gary Stanley's a better footballer.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:46:43

FWIW, in relation to some of the points raised re Brunel's editorial line, we've spoken to them a few times this season re consortium stuff and they've been very fair. Whether that will continue, obviously time will tell.

We've sent an email to Martyn Starnes and cc'ed to Craig Rance to ask for clarification on the coverage issue (ie whether they plan to expand coverage beyond Swindon etc), no reply as yet but I thought Craig Rance's reply to Yeovil was pretty fair.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:46:54

is he fuck........ :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:50:22

Leggett's letter is in the Adver today :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 10:55:12

Leggett's letter is in the Adver today :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 11:46:57

Theres a few good letters in there today from the minority of dissenters.
The Majority voice is also represented by that funny little letter at the end :|

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:07:13

Quote from: "glos_robin"

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Can someone leave a walkie talkie next to their radio when we're playing away and then i can hear the commentary here in scummer land.

What the townends own online pirate commentary station.........'Radio Ralph'

Disagree there, Radio Fatbury it's got to be, just think of all those exclusives it would be able to broadcast! :roll:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:24:55

See the Q & A (or should that be Q & BS) on the official site - no one has told the club that no one listens to Brunel (for it's truly a wonderful commercial opportunity) and that commercially (not who pays most) mayeb GWR have better facilities.

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~1028845,00.html

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:41:18

Will the BBC have the same access ?...that sounds like a No

I like the bit where the explain why the BBC wasn't invited to bid...."they couldn't afford what we getting"

I do wonder with this lot

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:46:52

So what Wiltshire towns can definitely not receive it - Chippenham, Devizes, Westbury, Melksham, Trowbridge, Calne...

I love the way they list Lyneham like it's a mjor coup, it's a flipping village with a runway, that's all.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:49:55

Quote from: "Power to people"

Will the BBC have the same access ?...that sounds like a No

I like the bit where the explain why the BBC wasn't invited to bid...."they couldn't afford what we getting"

I do wonder with this lot

I PM'd Ed Hadwin.

He said at this stage they honestly don't know what access they will have.

It may be a case of letting Brunel do their post match interviews and then BBC will be aloud to interview.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:51:41

Quote from: "janaage"

Highworth can't get it i don't think?

I had it on whilst driving home from Swindon one sunday and lost Brunel round about the Honda factory.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:53:39

when i worked at Royal mail they had it on all the time.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: jonbd on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:54:27

I can't get in Lyneham on any of the radios I have, so thats bollocks for a start

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:54:54

Quote from: "Scot Munroe"

when i worked at Royal mail they had it on all the time.

That was Dorcan though wasn't it?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:55:37

It does seem as if there are a lot of people that won't be able to get it - maybe we should start a pirate radio station with match commentary for those that can't hear it.

STFC couldn't care less all they are worried about is the money fcuk everyone else..Brunel offered them a bigger financial package so they went with it instead off looking which station could give them the better overall package.

At least Ed & Shaun now know whey they wasn't invited to tender though..but poor when you have to read it on the internet instead of Starnes / Diamandis having the balls to pick up the phone and explain their decision.

Oh well I suppose it give's Ed a bit of extra time to really do some digging and expose this lot for what we know them to be...and help put the pressure on them to leave.

Do you think the SSW will be able to get full match commentary now though ??!!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:58:27

Off Brunel's website......

Brunel FM transmits to the Swindon & District area. The station can also be heard in Marlborough, Malmesbury, Cirencester, Lyneham, Highworth and Wootton Bassett. When driving from Swindon, if you travel down the M4 you can still receive coverage as far as Chievely Services to the West and down to Bath to the East.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:59:34

removed double post

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 12:59:49

Pirate radio sounds ace.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:00:24

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Quote from: "Scot Munroe"

when i worked at Royal mail they had it on all the time.

That was Dorcan though wasn't it?

it was indeed. Ralph.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:01:49

Quote from: "Ralphy"

if you travel down the M4 you can still receive coverage as far as Chievely Services to the West and down to Bath to the East.

Leaving aside the fact that Bath's to the west of Swindon, not the east, you can't - tried it this morning and it goes as far as five miles out of Jcn 16, then nothing.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Lumps on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:06:48

Quote from: "Ralphy"

My guess is that it's to do with local radio licensing. There's a whole bunch of really local radio stations nationally, as well as the bigger ones like GWR that operate over a bigger patch.

The Local Radio Company,

http://www.thelocalradiocompany.com/index.asp?inc=about

who own Brunel also operate ones in Bath, Warminster etc at around the same frequency, so it might get a bit messy if their broadcast range was any greater.

It would be interesting to know whether the deal allows them to cover games on the other local stations in their network?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:08:39

I can get Franchise match coverage but not Swindon :|

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:09:16

I live in Grange Park and my reception keeps cutting out - I just did a check on my tuner downstairs. Not had problems with other stations unless in extremely bad weather. But it's a bright day with hardly a cloud in the sky
:(

Bugger

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:10:11

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Also it is not very clear where I live in Highworth so thats cobblers as well - although it doesnt say what it means by coverage .. a crackly noisy sound might constitute you being able to get it ...

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:11:18

I get crackly noise, followed by silence, followed by crackly noise. Then the music kicked in and was ok, but it then keeps repeating the pattern :(

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:15:12

Quote from: "simon pieman"

I get crackly noise, followed by silence, followed by crackly noise. Then the music kicked in and was ok, but it then keeps repeating the pattern :(

I don't know what's more likely - you got a reception or a song they played was OK?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:16:49

The reception. We all know the music isn't up to scratch so that's not even a moot point.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:19:50

Even if i carry on my subscription to STFC World, the match commentary cuts out all the time. Fucking bastards.

I demand that they fit special satelites to all our cars too so we can listen on the way home too.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:20:18

Quote from: "pauld"

Quote from: "Ralphy"

if you travel down the M4 you can still receive coverage as far as Chievely Services to the West and down to Bath to the East.

Leaving aside the fact that Bath's to the west of Swindon, not the east, you can't - tried it this morning and it goes as far as five miles out of Jcn 16, then nothing.

I'll second that ... The times I've tried to get it in my car you can't get it pretty much beyond the boundaries of Swindon. I don't know which of them did a signal test, but they must have had a huge aerial on top of their car.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: ronnie21 on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:22:15

Quote from: "simon pieman"

The reception. We all know the music isn't up to scratch so that's not even a moot point.

Agreed! I cannot stand that Mark O'Donnell who is on Radio Swindon at 7 am, he is crap and does not even know which knob to twiddle (no jokes there please) so I thought I would give this Brunel FM a go. I lasted two days listening to their drivel before retuning the old radio alarm back to Radio Swindon!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:23:30

I like listening to Mark O'Donnell in the morning :old:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:28:25

It's all about Chris Moyles.

Local radio is gash.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:31:46

Can I also point everybody to this:

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/radiolicensing/mcamaps/al304.pdf

It's Brunel FM's Measured Coverage Area map, as provided by the people who licence them, Ofcom.

Bath my arse.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:41:41

That map is interesting.

Can't get it in Bassett or Cricklade.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:44:06

Don't you just feel the club can worm their way out of it by saying they were informed of the reception area?

It obviously doesn't matter that the reception area is significantly smaller to begin with as they have got their money.

I can understand the decision by the Board from a financial sense, but they have done a very good job of further alienating fans which is a crying shame. Add to the fact that Shaun and Ed do feel part of this club and are familiar faces and voices when concerned with the club I feel for them too.

It's a sad day for a club that is trying to pride itself on becomming part of the community. One hopes the annoyance that this decision has caused doesn't just lead to a load of fans banging their heads against a brick wall for the sake of doing so.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:44:10

Quote from: "Ralphy"

That map is interesting.

Can't get it in Bassett or Cricklade.

Yep, which is ironic when you consider their studio is in Bassett!!

Obviously atmospheric conditions can extend that coverage, but I think you'll all see, their remit is to broadcast to Swindon, and Swindon alone.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:50:10

I spoke to Craig Rance earlier today about this and they are apparently looking at trying to extend their coverage area. So if they can do that to a sufficient extent (ie cover Wiltshire plus border areas as BBC Wilts does) by the time the season starts, then that would go a long way to deal with the issue of fans not being able to get commentary at least.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:51:06

Yup, nobody can have too many gripes if that happens. I hope so.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:53:10

Quote from: "pauld"

Can you ask if they will put a transmitter in Chipping Norton for Ralphy ? :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:56:06

Quote from: "pauld"

If they are allowed to then great.

To be honest, I'll believe it when I see it.

If I might make a suggestion to Craig - if he's reading - perhaps you might look at getting on to one of the DAB multiplexes? The NOW Wiltshire Mux provides a quite wide transmission area over north Wiltshire ... if you have the cash!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:58:02

And stop supporting the fucking scum.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 13:59:35

Quote from: "Chris BS32"

Bath my arse.

You're not going to get a lot of volunteers for that IMO :shock:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:01:49

:soapy tit wank:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:02:39

:soapy tit wank:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:02:50

Quote from: "simon pieman"

Don't you just feel the club can worm their way out of it by saying they were informed of the reception area?

It obviously doesn't matter that the reception area is significantly smaller to begin with as they have got their money.

I can understand the decision by the Board from a financial sense, but they have done a very good job of further alienating fans which is a crying shame. Add to the fact that Shaun and Ed do feel part of this club and are familiar faces and voices when concerned with the club I feel for them too.

It's a sad day for a club that is trying to pride itself on becomming part of the community. One hopes the annoyance that this decision has caused doesn't just lead to a load of fans banging their heads against a brick wall for the sake of doing so.

Part of me thinks more money = happy board, although a greater part of me thinks by seemingly excluding themselves from larger commercial radio - ie GWR the club risk actually loosing money by way of attracting the casual fan - in effect it is an advertising opportunity - a public opportunity for the club to promote itself, if they had maintained their previously good commercial realtionship with GWR they would have had much greater access to not only a wider listening area but also a significantly higher % share of the radio audience. I'm guessing that most Town fans and casuals who can get it will use Brunel like they use Beeb Swindon ie only for the footy, so all the opportunities that that the club have to promote themselves will be lost when it is only heard by the 3 listerners to Brunel. I liken it to putting an advert on channel 5, you know more people would see it on ITV, but channel five are making it more attractive for you to do it, irrespective of the fact that nobody will watch - therefore neglecting teh whole point of putting the ad out in the first place.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:07:56

I just listened online to Brunel.

The song playing was 'Sisters are doing it for themselves'.

Oh dear.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:09:26

GWR may not have been interested.

Great news on Brunel investigating increased coverage. Though thier hands may be tied? At least they are asking the question.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:10:40

Quote from: "Batch"

GWR may not have been interested.

Great news on Brunel investigating increased coverage. Though thier hands may be tied? At least they are asking the question.

I'm surprised they didn't investigate before the tender for the deal tbh.

As I said before hope it can happen.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:11:30

Well given the BBCs involvement (or lack thereof) in negotiations it wouldn't be surprising if the club chose to exclude them too - especially in their role as official media partner.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:28:48

I'm not going to start slashing my wrists about this like some others to be honest. (Shaw red on thisis anyone?)

Some of the same people who critisise the board for lack of general financial sense on one hand then critisise them for selling broadcasting rights for increased revenue FFS!

If Brunel gets its broadcasting area increased then its fine as far as I'm concerned, my only problem with it currently is the lack of service to "out of towners"

All other points regarding quality, ads etc are nothing but speculation currently, we're not going to know if they are any good til they start broadcasting STFC games.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: yeo on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:30:27

Quote from: "Batch"

GWR may not have been interested.

Great news on Brunel investigating increased coverage. Though thier hands may be tied? At least they are asking the question.

GWR weren't asked, my neighbour but one works for the sports bit and was as shocked about the whole thing as everyone else.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:36:06

Quote from: "Yeovil Red"

Quote from: "Batch"

GWR may not have been interested.

Great news on Brunel investigating increased coverage. Though thier hands may be tied? At least they are asking the question.

GWR weren't asked, my neighbour but one works for the sports bit and was as shocked about the whole thing as everyone else.

Of course they wasn't only Brunel - it remains to be seen though who approached who though

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:36:22

The point is Piemonte is that there was only one bidder - so how do the club even know that GWR or Radio Swindon wouldnt have offered more?

Good range map that - Half of Highworth covered but sadly not my half - It just shows that Brunel barely covers Swindon

The board really have stuffed up on this one!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:39:55

Quote from: "Piemonte"

If Brunel gets its broadcasting area increased then its fine as far as I'm concerned, my only problem with it currently is the lack of service to "out of towners"

Yep. As someone has pointed out their hands might be tied. If they increase their coverage area they risk interfering with other stations on neighbouring frequencies. Star is on 107.7 in North Somerset and Bath FM is on 107.9 so I doubt they'll be allowed to increase power westwards very much so Chippenham may well be out of the question.

I think their only route is via DAB, personally ... I'd be happy with that. Can get Now Wilts in the car and wouldn't be much work to get it in the house.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:44:39

so basically if you live in Chippenham you dont stand a chance??

Great!! :evil:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:48:05

I might move to Swindon.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:50:07

Quote from: "fatbury"

The point is Piemonte is that there was only one bidder - so how do the club even know that GWR or Radio Swindon wouldnt have offered more?

Point taken, its hardly solid practise to not put something like this out to tender, although I'd be shocked if BBC Swindon could have stumpted up any real cash for the rights and wouldnt have thought GWR would fancy it tbh.

My point really was aimed at the views of quite a few people that the board actually trying to make money rather than just lose it hand over fist is a bad thing. I want them to fuck off as much as the next fan, but in the meantime if they can try and be "less bad" then thats at least a minor positive for the CLUB. Perhaps having a viable alternative applying pressure on them to perform might be having some form of impact.

Sure, it has repercussions in this instance but in the grand scheme of the things they have done (read:fucked up) in the last 5 years this is pretty far down the list in my view.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 14:57:56

Much as others have said, if the coverage can be improved to a level where it sufficiently covers the same as RS then there's no real problem with it.

Given the size of the company though, I can't really see it happening.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:00:02

Quote from: "Ralphy"

I might move to Swindon.

Fuck sake, how much will it cost to change the boards mind?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:00:26

Quote from: "Jamiesfuturewife"

so basically if you live in Chippenham you dont stand a chance??

Great!! :evil:

Well I doubt they'll be allowed to expand on FM - but that's just my view.

If they want a power boost it'll be down to the Ofcom frequency planners to decide who are, obviously, more expert than I am!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:01:26

Quote from: "Bushey Boy"

Quote from: "Ralphy"

I might move to Swindon.

Fuck sake, how much will it cost to change the boards mind?

Ha ha, i won't be renting either so you can fuck off :D

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:07:44

Quote from: "Piemonte"

Sure, it has repercussions in this instance but in the grand scheme of the things they have done (read:fucked up) in the last 5 years this is pretty far down the list in my view.

I think that whilst in finance terms and the future of the club it's small fry, but in terms of affecting the fan on the street (who lives just outside Swindon) it's a major change in their matchday experience - especially midweek away gaems etc. and that is the reason people are raging over it - a lot of fans just wanna watch and/or listen to games not worry about off field stuff and things like this affect their ability to do this.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:18:32

[/quote]

Point taken, its hardly solid practise to not put something like this out to tender, although I'd be shocked if BBC Swindon could have stumpted up any real cash for the rights and wouldnt have thought GWR would fancy it tbh. [/quote]

I think the point is STFC do not know how much BBC RS would have been able to come up with - if someone else was interested -to keep the rights to commentaries etc as they was never given an opportunity to put in a bid...after 18 years service this is an extremely poor way to be treated.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:27:08

I'm not really bothered how the BBC was treated to be honest, its in the clubs interest to maximise revenues from its media rights not act like some 70's trade union and keep doing the same thing "because thats the ways its been done for 18 years"

All things being equal if giving the rights to Brunel means an extra player or a increased wage budget for Sturrock then I'm all for it.

Sadly, all things arnt equal in this case becasue A. the board went about selling the rights in a typically cack handed manner - who knows if someone else would have paid more? and B. Brunel wont reach as many people.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 15:55:40

Quote from: "Piemonte"

The problem is piemont we dont know how much the bbc would of paid

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:03:53

Fair point. We can only guess that a commercial station that is part of a large group can afford more than a BBC local radio station with a fairly small catchment area compared to some of the others.

I love supporting STFC. :-))(

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:06:18

Piemonte, short term cash is exactly what must have been the driver of this deal, as well as the idea of being able to have a modicrum of control over the output.

I'd question it making financial sense though, based on the available listeners Brunel FM has (only 150k) compared to either the BBC station or other commercial ventures such as GWR (prob between 500k and 1m if you merge a few of their frequencies they cover). Ultimately we get short term cash but risk marginlising the club gradually over the years until we become exclusively Swindon supported. You have to add in the shit coverage we get on TV as well, being slap bang on the corner of all 3 local ITV areas.

I'd wager, real money, that it will cause long term finances to actually be worse off, not to mention to impact on reputation - again.

The only winner here will be anyone financially supporting the next year for the club and Brunel FM who will see a rise in advertising revenues on a day notoriously hard to sell on radio.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:07:46

Quote from: "Piemonte"

I hope your right mate i really do.You would not put it past the board though to have done this to have a dig at bbc wilts and stop asking questions.The bbc have been threatened with lawyers before by the club and it would not suprise me if the club just thought fuck the lot of them tbh.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Phil_S on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:07:53

Quote from: "mattboyslim"

Quote from: "Piemonte"

Sure, it has repercussions in this instance but in the grand scheme of the things they have done (read:fucked up) in the last 5 years this is pretty far down the list in my view.

That's just the thing tho'. The machinations in the board room DO eventually affect us fans.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:13:21

All fair points Rob, but the team doing well would overide any of them in terms of generating both local media and individual interest. STFC dosnt disappear off the face of the earth because a part timer in Melksham for example cant hear a full commentary any more. If STFC are doing well the interest will still be there

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: genf_stfc on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:19:19

of course, this also all depends on if the board actually have 'done a good deal' - I don't suppose we know who paid who what amount, and probably never will

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:26:17

Quote from: "Piemonte"

All fair points Rob, but the team doing well would overide any of them in terms of generating both local media and individual interest. STFC dosnt disappear off the face of the earth because a part timer in Melksham for example cant hear a full commentary any more. If STFC are doing well the interest will still be there

No they won't but loyal fans like me in Oxfordshire would like to hear it.

I subscribe to STFC World which in my opinion is absolute dog shite. Sometimes the commentary fades out.

The club use STFC World has another way of making money off the fans.

I guess i'll have to sit in the car park after the match for half hour to listen to the post match analysis. Thats if you can pick up Brunel at the County Ground?? Is it in the broadcast area ??

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: genf_stfc on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:38:28

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Quote from: "Piemonte"

.. to agree with the above, if you do happen to live somewhere out in the wilderness, like Bassett, and you don't fancy the trip up to Carlisle next season you now have two choices: shelling out to listen to the commentary punctuated by gaps every 5 seconds on STFC world; getting in the car and driving around the magic roundabout with the radio on for 90 minutes.

now i live miles away anyway so STFC world is my only option - but I can understand why others who would consider themselves in the STFC catchment area (i.e. Wiltshire at least) to be a bit miffed when in the past they could just switch the radio on.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: stfctownenda on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:46:40

To be honest it may seem blinkered but I am not too bothered if the board have done a good deal with Brunel because I remain very concerned where the money is actually going.

Personally cant see it going on the player budget and worry it may end up in the bottomless pit where the other 3 million odd income that has come in over the last year and a bit.

To me it all still smells of what someone posted a few weeks back they are trying to make as much money as possible before finally heading to the exit door.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:49:11

Quote from: "stfctownenda"

I think it was me who said that.Every decision they seem to be making at the moment seems to be having a negative effect on the fans.The fact they are still trying to see if their is anychance of rovers sharing proves that imo

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 16:54:56

biggest problem is that firstly Brunel FM live doesnt work with my mac and i believe that STFC World doesnt work with a mac

buggers!

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: stfctownenda on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 17:07:38

Quote from: "red macca"

Quote from: "stfctownenda"

Remember when you said it Macca that it rang alarm bells in my head all this time they have been holding out over the takeover they have continued to get more money out of the club.

Just look back Lukas money, large attendances end of season, media partnership with Brunel FM, sponsorship set to be announced, kit manufacturer money and season ticket sales. All of that income and what do we know the CVA is still outstanding and Sturrock has a lower budget to work with.

I know it will never happen but it would be very interesting to know how much exactly all of the above came to and just how much of it ended up in the club.

The Brunel FM deal is the latest kick in the teeth from a disgraceful board.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 17:30:13

Quote from: "fatbury"

biggest problem is that firstly Brunel FM live doesnt work with my mac and i believe that STFC World doesnt work with a mac

buggers!

Settles the old argument that, pc's are better than macs.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 17:38:50

Quote from: "Ralphy"

Quote from: "fatbury"

biggest problem is that firstly Brunel FM live doesnt work with my mac and i believe that STFC World doesnt work with a mac

buggers!

Settles the old argument that, pc's are better than macs.

Well if PTV would use open standards to stream the content we'd all be alright, but they insist on using shit DRM to "protect" the content.

My missus supports Everton and subscribes to their equivilent package and, amazingly, their streaming works on my Mac with no hint of a way to crack it. Perhaps PTV would like to take a trip to Goodison Park to find out how to do the job properly.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 17:41:56

I was fishing Chris.

Mac owners always have to justify their purchase :mrgreen:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Panda Paws on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 17:43:24

Quote from: "Ralphy"

I was fishing Chris.

Mac owners always have to justify their purchase :mrgreen:

Hehe I know mate. I can't resist. Was just pointing out, to be honest, how shit PTV is and how they *could* do the job properly if they wanted to.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Sussex on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 18:03:41

Quote from: "Ralphy"

I was fishing Chris.

Mac owners always have to justify their purchase :mrgreen:

Because of work Ralph. Just like you don't get a choice in what the colour of the van is that you tootle round the arse end of England is. :wink:

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: TalkTalk on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 19:11:59

That Ofcom map that Chris posted says it all I think.

Brunel aren't increasing their coverage area any time soon.

I think we should get the 50% out-of-towners to rise up and storm the SN1 citadel.

I suggest tanks from the Chippenham direction, commandos coming over the hill at Wroughton and Tornados flying in from Shrivenham.

That will show them.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Ralphy on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 19:39:23

Quote from: "Sussex Red"

Quote from: "Ralphy"

I was fishing Chris.

Mac owners always have to justify their purchase :mrgreen:

Because of work Ralph. Just like you don't get a choice in what the colour of the van is that you tootle round the arse end of England is. :wink:

Maybe but PC's are better.

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 19:40:20

I like the way on that map that the signal seems to get to villages and towns and then just go 'Oooh, I can't go in there. Let's go around.' WTF is that about?

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 19:54:24

Quote from: "sam_stfc"

I like the way on that map that the signal seems to get to villages and towns and then just go 'Oooh, I can't go in there. Let's go around.' WTF is that about?

Probably peaks and troughs in the land

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 20:25:22

Quote from: "fatbury"

biggest problem is that firstly Brunel FM live doesnt work with my mac and i believe that STFC World doesnt work with a mac

buggers!

That's very true. Ask Sussex or Chris, they suffer that same problem.

Oh fuck it, they already have [note to self: read all the thread first :roll: ]

Title: Brunel FM
Post by: pumbaa on Wednesday, May 23, 2007, 20:28:33

Quote from: "TalkTalk"

Tanks from Salisbury and paras from Lyneham might be more appropriate :wink:

Where's Millom when you need him?

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 14:05:13

I saw in the local paper today that They have had the administrators called in!

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Phil_S on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 14:32:01

Yes saw that. They have obviuosly had an infectious Diamandis type diesease

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 14:40:35

Quote from: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 14:05:13

I saw in the local paper today that They have had the administrators called in!

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/4531372.Troubled_radio_station_in_hunt_for_buyer_to_save_it_from_closure/

This quote cracked me up !

Fucking muppets !

Mr Roberts said: “Due to the nature of SWR’s acquisition of five radio stations including Brunel FM in October 2008 there was little to no due diligence before purchase.

“Recently SWR has seen a large amount of unforeseen debt placed on the company and after every effort to manage this debt within the constraints of the business, it has unfortunately left the company insolvent.”

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 15:18:56

Was Diamandis involved with the sale ?

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 15:31:47

At least they haven't appointed Andy Andronikou as administrator !!

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: china red on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 15:37:33

The previous board did many wonderful things for this club and two of their best decisions were definitely choosing Kingswood as sponsors and Brunel for the match day commentary.

Just gutted that when Fitton and Co. came in they ended these two wonderful businesses involvement in STFC

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 19:44:57

The club probably got more money from the Brunel FM deal, it wasn't their fault the coverage was shit.

Kingswood was always going to go to shit though.

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: ronnie21 on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 19:48:36

Quote from: Si Pie on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 19:44:57

The club probably got more money from the Brunel FM deal, it wasn't their fault the coverage was shit.

Do you reckon? There was probably more money on the table, but did the club get it?? ;)

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Power to people on Friday, August 7, 2009, 14:53:59

Quote from: Si Pie on Thursday, August 6, 2009, 19:44:57

The club probably got more money from the Brunel FM deal, it wasn't their fault the coverage was shit.

Kingswood was always going to go to shit though.

If I remember correctly it was not more money but more to the point as a slap down to RS for asking too many probing questions

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, August 7, 2009, 15:11:17

I heard the club actually brought equipment for Brunel so they could transmit from the CG as they didn't have the equipment to do so.

Whether that was true, I do not know.

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, August 7, 2009, 20:35:48

Oh well, what's done is done. At least we can worry about the shortage of strikers and not the off the pitch stuff now :)

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: RobertT on Friday, August 7, 2009, 22:02:09

Quote from: Power to people on Friday, August 7, 2009, 14:53:59

If I remember correctly it was not more money but more to the point as a slap down to RS for asking too many probing questions

RS were not even invited to make an offer for the rights to the coverage.

Title: Re: Brunel FM
Post by: Bushey Boy on Friday, August 7, 2009, 22:04:56

Quote from: Summerof69 on Friday, August 7, 2009, 15:11:17

I heard the club actually brought equipment for Brunel so they could transmit from the CG as they didn't have the equipment to do so.

Whether that was true, I do not know.

Nah it was Brunels

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