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A reminder that the Trust's AGM is being held tomorrow night at The Moonrakers.

Whilst we're on the subject, can I skank a lift off of someone please?  :D

What time?

Not sure I can make it  :|

7:30 start.

I can give you both a lift if you want?

PM me if it's a yes as I won't be on here tomorrow.

'Tis ok, the missus isn't babysitting now so she can drive and I can drink  :mrgreen:

I can drive the two of you so you can both drink  :roll:

Oh ok then, cheers Al. What time?

Usual place, seven on the dot?

I can't make it. Driving lesson til 7:30. Doh!

Then finish it at the Moonies and I'll give you a lift home after the AGM.

I was thinking that. Going to see how my doctors appointment goes tomorrow (if I can get one). Don't hink I'm up to it tbh but I'll be there if I can.

I'll also need to eat at some stage or I'll keel over

I'll bring a packed lunch for you.

Seriously.

Chicken tikka sandwiches ok?

It's a date xxx  :wink:

Nice one Alan

Any old town tefers fancy giving me a lift, or sharing a taxi or something. I'll throw in a VCD of This is England to sweeten the deal.

i can pick you up pm your adress and i will pick you up at 7

Cheers mex, I pmed you.

I've got a sinus and possibly an ear infection according to the doctor so I will give it a miss.

Good meeting (apart from the boring bits).

Highlights were...

Sonic having a shouting match after agreeing with a point I made (cheers babe).

PaulD being disgusted at the election results. I think the quote is "For fucks sake, I have to work with all you cunts for another fucking year".

Think there may be some friction within the trust board.

I didn't actually say that but top marks for interpreting the grimace  :D

:D

Congrats to Mex are in order. err... Well done Mex.

you were right though. If the groundshare goes ahead, it would be truly idiotic to tar ALL Rovers fans with the same brush as those responsible for the incident at the Inn on the Green; not only does it infer that football fan=hooligan but it will inveitably lead to more aggro between the two sets of fans which will only build over time so instead of a minority of people intent on running riot, you've got a massive potential flash point.

it's also likely that half the chavs responsible coulnd't afford the train fare up here on matchdays.

I hate it when i tell people i go to watch swindon and they go on about yobs and violence - i haven't seen any trouble at all this year (i missed both rovers games)

Ace, I've found your anger button. I'm can use it to unleash you on unsuspecting people.

anyone who disagrees with you will earn my wrath

And all shall feel our wrath.

To be fair, I'm not surprised the gent in question felt so strongly on the issue - after all, he was the one who was enjoying a quiet pint when he was attacked by some scumbag with a 4x2.

Any good news come out of the meeting ?
Couldn't make it tonight.Could someone do a quick recap please.
Ta very much :soapy tit wank:

i can understand anyone feeling aggrieved in that situation but rationale would state that all clubs have a majority of fans who go to appreciate the football and a minor undercurrent (sometimes not so minor) who go to cause trouble. The minority varies from club to club but these things should be kept in perspective - something which is hard to do (i imagine) when you have been a victim of violence.

the worst thing that can happen is as sonic stated and all fans get tarred with the same brush. I am a pacifist and a football fan and i'm sure there are like minded people at rovers.

Grrr.. you have to wait until sonic goes to bed. He was more wound up than me.

The fact he was one of the victims doesn't make him right. The point I made...

(That if all protests against the ground share fail and it gets to the point that it's inevitable so that no protests will make any difference, then the trust should get in contact with there Rovers counterparts and make the situation more positive)


.... was right. There's no point creating more divisions when there's nothing anyone can do. It would be much better to try to unite the fans and isolate the few idiots which are going to start trouble no matter what.

It's still a hypothetical position anyway.

and i totally agree with that, but i can see that had i gone to the match and got twatted with a plank of wood i would feel strongly against it.

He could have got twatted with a plank of wood and then bukkaked but it wouldn't make his point of view right. It's just extremism.

A few idiot Rovers fans did this to me hence they are all scum. You could use the same logic to have a continuous hate against anyone.

rovers fans bukkaked you?

no really, i agree totally with the rationalism of the situation and would love both sets of fans to turn against the troublemakers and prove they are all knobs. i have nothing against rovers fans, no - really. i don't really have anything against any fans except the franchise, i'll happily talk to all away fans in the merlin etc and i abhorr violence.

at the same time i can see how my perspective might be skewed - not for the masses but for the individual - by being the victim of an attack by one set of 'fans'. I'd like to think i wouldn't hold a grudge but i'm not in that situation so i don't know.

also i didn't hear his point of view first hand, just what you/sonic quoted above, essentially that he was against groundshare because of what had happened to him.

Likewise, from a pragmatic perspective, we and the Gas Trust could issue all the "pleas for calm", "let's just get along" statements we like and it will do precisely nothing to stop the minority scum element of Rovers' support from kicking off in town. We'd just be bleating in the wind, and the locals of the pubs that get trashed, the residents who have to hide inside their houses like the unfortunate residents of Horfield did on Saturday when 150+ rioted after the play-off game against Lincoln, or the innocent shoppers having to protect their kids from a sudden outbreak of violence in town centre on a Saturday are not going to be impressed by such statements - they'll simply see it as "football = trouble". We may know it is a minority (of fans), but that isn't how it will play with the majority (of people who live in the town)

it's unfortunate but true paul. it'll take a long time for football to get away from that image as long as these sporadic events keep occuring.

I think one of the things that made him feel this was a general problem with Rovers' fans was the abuse he got when being led into the ambulance (obviously injured) from "ordinary" Rovers fans in shirts etc (ie not your standard hoolie Stone island clobber). I think in the same shoes, I'd be a lot less sympathetic to the "ordinary Gasheads are OK" line of argument.

as soon as personal emotion becomes involved in a situation its always difficult to take a pragmatic and neutral stance, you can't distance yourself from the event.

I'm only saying to do positive joint fan stuff once (if) the ground share is inevitable.

Anyhoo. That sounds like the easy option to me Paul. No, you are never going to stop the minority of thugs causing as much trouble as they can. However you could do your best to alienate them. Have a fans XI friendly, or even a Rovers Legends vs. Swindon Legends Friendly. Maybe have players who have played for both teams field a team against a joint Rovers/Town trust team. A joint pub event with a hero who's played for both teams or something.

It's all a bit liberal wishy washy, but if it gets to the point where the ground share is clearly inevitable then there is no point keeping on with the negative protests which will only polarise the two sets of fans.

Nah

Chucking stuff is the only way to sort stuff out.

Maybe a Custard Pie fight.

Or Bugsy Malone style Splurge Guns 8)

Was there any vote on any boycots of any kind?

Im sure you're all nackered so a simple yes or no will suffice

and there's the rationalism we were after, evenin' YR

There were votes on boycotts.

season tickets?

talking of which anyone know the price of a TE ticket next season, post boycot of course.

any votes on whether to have votes? :mrgreen:

nearly.

Ben - you are making too much sense in this thread. Frankly, I'm worried. Should I be concerned?

that chilean cab sauv will kick in sooner or later...

I'm tired to be honest. I'm sure you can all wait until tomorrow to get the votes/discussion outcomes. The me and sonic in agreement thing was about a point I made about the ground share.

I'm not worried about that, more the coherent and valid points ref ground share. You are either uber pissed or utterly sober. Crazy days (in your own words)

I automatically read it as I wasn't making any sense. Crazy Days. Cheers for the apparent vote of confidence.

I've said my bit and I think it's probably best to leave it until tomorrow now....

A) I've said all I want to say at the moment.

B) The trust meeting started over 7 hours ago. Enough is enough.

C) I just found out that disc 2 in the Blues Brothers DVD I bought has some sort of extended version.

Word.

i've got the blues brothers on vhs - the only reason i still have a video recorder - its a fucking ace film (s) both are in my top ten of all time. (the second one only just).

Why not upgrade said Blue Brothers to DVD. HMV had it in their sale, I think it was the ultimate edition 2 discer FB has.

Of course you can get the Blues Brothers/BB 2000 combo DVD - a class film and a cup coaster in one handy pack. BB 2000 was awful, music aside.

£270 renewal before May 31st.

This is what you posted on the trust site sonic  :--

QUOTE  
Desire to help a fellow football club - we may need a favour ourselves one day .

Exactly right , its good to help another club , we might need help one day .  


Any club that doesn't have neanderthal fans that attack women and children are quite welcome. Rovers aren't.

Yes Dean, but I think sonic's saying if it's a done deal then it's worth trying to improve relations to weed out the neanderthal fans

It will never happen though will it so we might aswell just tarnish the fuckers

:D

indeed, just because I'm against the idea doesn't mean that I consider all Rovers fans scum. No doubt the vast majority of their fans are perfectly reasonable but it's the minority that worries me. Should the unthinkable happen, then there's no point being hostile and unwelcoming to all of their fans as it will only cause hassle for everyone.

Totally agree sonic, alas in cases like this that tiny majority could ruin it for everyone -and IMHO there are several other compelling reasons hooliganism aside for it not to happen, but if it does (and the powers that be have a head in the sand moment) hostility to all Rovers fans would do no good at all, I honestly expect the scenario to be that they would be generally unwelcome in the vast majority of pubs anyhow, but for the ordinary decent gashead we need to try an make it as bearable as possible for all concerned.

if rovers share here,trouble is guaranteed.majority,minority or whatever.
those that want the trouble will find ways of causing it.of course most of them are ok but plenty aint, so fuck em i say

I agree. People are saying that its the minority, but that minority of rovers will attack anyone as they did to us at rovers. walking along glos rd we hear a shout there swindon get them and we were attacked. So if you want innocent people in swindon attacked lets get rovers down here.

who was-wasn't elected to the trust board?

Elected were: Paul Davis, Alan Hayward, Paul Wardell, Andy Ratcliffe, Tony Norris, Andrew Hounsell, Iain Huddy, Alan Jones

Not elected: Sam Binstead and James Walsh

ageist..... :x

Set up a splinter group Trust Yoof.

I found that a bit disappointing really. If you looked at the statements that Sam and James put up and compared it to other candidates, theirs were miles better. I know some people are more familiar with certain Trust Board members work, but their lack of effort with their personal statements cam across as slightly arrogant.

Good to put a face to a name last night Sam, for what its worth did vote for you  8) .

Agree Bens surprisingly serious comments all have valid points.  My main point is we cant allow it to happen full stop.  As much as it would be great to have a positive spin on both fans getting on, we would still have a minority causing violence and vandalism every week.

Just look after there first play off game still 120 rioted and caused trouble after a win and this is there own city for gods sake, what would it be like if they were in Swindon and lost a big game, pubs smashed up, people attacked, it cant be allowed to happen.

If a groundshare agreement is suddenly announced protests should be mounted, petitions, marches everything possible to get it in the media eye that everyone is strongly opposed to it.

Last nights AGM was quite good apart from my mate driving didn't want to stay for another drink, selfish git he could have had another coke and I could of got another deserved pint , some people are just me, me, me  :D

Shame indeed, some new ideas, impteus and youth would have been a good thing (taking absolutely nothing away from the current board at al), but hey that's democracy for you.

i'm surprised you and sonic didn't make it.anyway fair play for having a crack at it.personally i think it could do with some younger chaps on it but nevermind.

Anything good happen in the meeting?

Sam and Sonic, dont be put off by helping because you didnt get in.  Get your ideas across, help out get yourselves know to the whole membership and have another crack next year.

Its not about getting knocked back its how you respond to the knock back

What a load of shite, could everybody stop whinging about Sam and Sonic???

Of course they didn't get elected, the whole thing was rigged.

By Mex.

not whinging, just thought having some younsters on board would balance it up a bit.the people have voted those that are in,in.and thats fine by me

So can someone just explain.

Who was elected?

Mex.

WHOOOOOOOOOOSH

 :?

and?

dont get on your fuckin high horse now mex :D

rather smug

Now that Mexico Red is on the board I will be cancelling my membership.  Anyone who takes advantage of 19 year old students is scum in my opinion

who said she was 19?

Shes younger?!?! wrong wrong wrong

but a ledge!

Alan Jones
Alan Hayward
Andrew Hounsell
Andy Ratcliffe
Iain Huddy
Paul Davis
Paul Wardell
Tony Norris

It was a bit complicated in Sam's post wasn't it? Bless.

2 x alan
2 x paul
2 x andy

iain and tony were lucky to get in!

The point Ben made was with regards to if the groundshare is a dead certainty and there is nothing left anyone can do to halt it. Until that point, oppose it to the absolutely limit.



Indeed, one of us can take your seat the next time you resign

I just let out a small chuckle from you post Sonic. Ace.

They won't let me resign.  :(

I'm trapped.

do you have a problem with what i said talk talk?
just because i thought having a couple of younger fellas on the board would be a good thing,was no reflection on you or anyone else voted in.
did it not occur to you that i may have voted for you aswell?

I dont think it was meant the way you read it arriba

I read it as a quirky sarcastic joke

Might just be me thouh

Personally I believe a bit of positive discrimination is needed.

We now have a Mexican from Brighton so that a couple of boxes ticked. But we need more ethnic diversity and also a woman.Also how come they nearly all work in programing/IT ?

Next year I suggest a Pop Idol type format for elections with a panels of prominent lefties as judges.

Seconded

 8)

Nice to see my family still has a representative on the trust board.

I do agree with the youngsters part though, I'd be a great trust board member.  :beers:

You should have stood then Tails.

Or put some effort in this coming year on Trust working parties and get some recognition for the next AGM.

And yes Arriba, it was a joke.

Thought so.....................but then again I know you and know you S.O.H.

For simplicity,Iain will be referred to as "Paul",  and Tony as "Andy"

What about me ?

"Maria" (T)   - in a completely jokey way, just in case Arriba is confused

i.e.  How do you solve a problem like Tia Maria  (if that hasn't been done before)

You ain't on the board cunt face.

Trust Secretary scampi bollocks


and my name is Andy

Does that mean you have to make the coffee and collect the dry cleaning?

I'm not knocking it, it's an important job :D

and do the sandwich run at break time

but there aint no way I am wearing any low cut tops as Mex suggested

No need - you exposed your chest at the anniversary dinner very well judging from the piccies

No it's cunt face. I've deed polled you behind your back.

Not again !

fred is now officially my bitch, my first motion is that scotch eggs should be  renamed mexican huevos and have tabasco injected into them. we can then sell them on matchdays.

Trust Taco's?

like it rob, we can set up a trust taco stall and hire some mayan indians to run it in true mexican style. we can pay them in bottles of water.