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play him now Sturrock you clueless fucking idiot.

Created nothing today

seconded!

spot on

Something has gone on between him and Sturrock. I think I'm more likely to get selected ahead of Weston at the moment - and that ain't good.

Sturrock at times is too much like King for my liking..........making snap decisions and selecting the team based on personal opinions rather than what would be best.

which is stupid and stubborn, we need some in the middle capable of taking on players and creating something. Weston is the only one who can do this.

....but....stuff what the team needs, or what the fans want or promotion as long as you win your little vendetta Mr. Sturrock  :roll:

I hope that Evo returns for the last 2 or 3 games and guides us over the line. Unlikely given the time out he has had I suppose

He didn't follow instructions for the Barnet game. Sub's bench on Monday.

There was actually instructions? the whole team was so lost that day I thought sturrock forgot to tell the team their jobs.
I feel for Weston, very little point even performing in the reserves as Sturrock won't pick him

BUT WE DONT CREATE ANYTHING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PARK!!!

Surely Sturrock can see this, Peacock and Pook do the same job....

will only play if injuries etc take hold.bye bye at the seasons end.shame as he has a bit of quality.

exactly, he quality....the qualities our team is lacking.

Sturrock is really a bit of idiot isnt he?

but he's the boss,and weston obviously doesn't follow his instructions.
i back the manager.

Weston hasn't impressed me this season bar the pre season game against Palace where he took on 4 or 5 players on a mazy run.

After Barnet i wouldn't have been that bothered about him playing again but after yesterday's non offensive midfield display i'd say give him another chance against Torquay.

Weston is over rated..Dv your wrong mate we are 3rd and 6 points clear for fucksake stop moaning for once

Everybody in this thread has a valid point, but I'm gonna have to agree with Macca.

Would be a shame to see him leave though

he doesn't show the desire, commitment, and effort to warrant a place in the team. For this reason, i'm not bothered if he never plays for us again.

Paul Sturrock knows how to manage a football club. Internet geeks do not. For this reason I don't mind if Weston never plays for us again. (although I do think he will turn out to be a quality player, just not for us)

Weston will be the new Brian Howard.

I should know, I'm an internet geek.

I include myself in that before you take it personally! :mrgreen:

nerd or not, Weston has got talent. More so than our other midfielders.

Weston will go to Leeds if they go down - and do well.

Agree 100% I'm more than happy to have opinions on certain things but if the boss (thus far a successful one) won't play him then fair enough.  Sturrock might have made some decisions to raise an eyebrow but I don't think I'll judge him until he has his own team and some time playign his way.

Agree though Weston has capability but lacks attitude IMHO.

Hes got talent and was good early in the season.

But has done nothing whatsoever to warant a recall currently. Hands up anyone whos seen him play anything other than shite in the last 2/3 months, even if its off the bench.

The world according to VD is a strange place. Despite 3 wins and 2 draws from the last 5, you want to just dump someone into the team who has not played well even once in 2007??  Even for the rerserves according to reports on here and the OS???

Please stop talking shit. Your constant bleating about how you know better than an ex international with 3 promotions under his belt as a manager who is on the verge of getting us promoted makes my head want to explode with rage.

Why? Wise won't be there if they go down

I do see where DV's coming from though, our midfield has been pretty poor creatively of late and at least Weston would offer us something that none of our other central midfielders have...

Not if he doesn't do what the manager wants him to...

Which is why Sturrock isn't playing him and I agree with that, if he's not disciplined enough to follow insturctions then it's a waste of time. It's nto as if he's good enough to play as a total maverick.

Pook out, Timlin in.

Don't you think Ken Bates is far too stubborn to allow such an event?

I don't think he'll have a choice

To be honest if the only reason Westons not playing is due to not following instructions at Barnet then its a sodding joke with Aaron Brown still continuely involved in squads despite his display at Barnet inept on the pitch and a disgrace to those off it.

We miss Weston's creativity whether people want to admit it or not.  IMO when he has come on he has played alright and looks to attack players all the time.  Either way I think Sturrock will get us up but next year we will need a creative player in alongside Peacock.

I agree, Weston should be playing right now. It still sickens me when Brown comes on.

I think these are exactly Sturrock's points. Sturrock likes full backs to over lap and he likes wingers to either come inside or get right up front before crossing.

Sturrock said he likes central midfielders to break up play and hold up the ball. He likes defensive midfielders.

Attacking Central midfielders are clearly something sturrock doesn't like as they don't fit his style.

Weston couldn't be a holding midfielder a he goes on runs therefore he can't work with a sturrock team. Simple.

Saying that though he does like them to follow in behind the strikers when we attack... Oh i don't fucking know. I think Weston's in with the board.

Barry is right.  

No-one who wants him in the team has answered my question as to when they last saw Weston play well.

 I'm not saying he's rubbish, when on song hes a good player. Trouble is hes not on song and hasnt been for ages.

Players should have to do something to justify inclusion ie come on as sub and play well, MOTM for the reserves etc which weston dosnt seem to be doing currently

Yes but can you claim that Pooks or even Roberts weekly contributions warrant constant inclusion and before people jump on the band wagon and say I am a Roberts hater I am actually a big fan of his its just his lacklustre attitude is baffling at times.

I think if Weston played regular games we would see his form grow, he is a young lad and needs regular football to develop.  As a footballer he is 50 times better than Pook so if I was Luggy I would work on his defensive side and have him in the side and he would soon be an asset.

IMO you cant play with 2 defensive midfielders it just doesn't work we need to have a mixture in there with one more offensive like Man U with Scholes and Carrick, Chelsea with Makele and Lampard etc.  If we go into League 1 with 2 defensive midfielders I think we will struggle.

Weston hasnt been given a chance recently but when he was i thought he looked a very good player. He would work well alongside Peacock in the middle i think. I cant see how Pook justifies playing above Weston. He has put in the odd good performance but on the whole has been a weak link in the team.

You explained it better than me. Agree entirely!

Every manager has his style. Pook is defensive, Curtis isn't. Why make Curtis defensive when Pook already is? Afterall, Sturrock has said openly that Curtis doesn't follow instructions, so he may have tried to make him defensive, but realised Curtis still thinks he's Aimar.

Pook follows instructions, breaks up the play and does his job with energy and commitment. Do you think you could make Lampard play like Makelele willingly?

 :-))(

There's only so much play you can break up before you actually have to do some attacking though which is where we have problems and where Weston comes in. We struggle to create chances in this league, I dread to imagine what it'll be like in the league above.
If Pook starts games regularly next season then we will be relegated, as it'll mean our squad probably lacks depth and quality........its that simple.

As we haven't been taken over yet I'm basing my assumptions on having a similar squad as the current board have no money so Sturrock will get no money to spend. People seem to take for granted that Sturrock will make big changes and get quality players in.........not if he has no money he won't

Pook may follow instructions but he is a poor poor player yes he breaks up play and you could never question his commitment but ability he is very much lacking his distribution is poor to be kind, he has no footballing brain and not a good finisher so if Westons crime is not being the complete midfielder how the hell is Pook?

Why make Curtis more defensive when Pook already is? because then he would be a fantastic all round midfielder, he can already go past players, he has a good shot (Bristol Rovers goal), is a good passer and if he learnt more to go up and down a field he would be fantastic and in comparison to Pook he has much more ability.

I don't like Brown, but he achieved more on Monday than Roberts

I loathe every bone in Brown's body but he's not been too shoddy when he's played of late. Roberts I desperately want to like but he makes it fucking difficult.

Pook's just nothing more than average and sometimes fails to achieve that.

Indeed. If he makes one more run and loses the ball the next time I see him play then I am going to stab Gazza.

Whilst our position is very good at the moment, two back to back defeats for MK have helped a hell of a lot.

Saying that before Monday we played out two 0-0 draws....in both of which we didnt create enough chances to win the game, again in both instances the opposition probably created more.

If Zaaboub and Roberts have off games (which isnt exactly uncommen) then were do our chances come from? no where?

Whether its starting in the middle, or being an option on the bench I think we need the qualities Weston has in our squad.

Pook, I think has played well recently but as its already been said there is only so much ball winning defensive work you can do before you have to attack and Pooks distribution and attacking play is seriously lacking. Its of my opinion you need a more attack minded midfield along side a Peacock/Pook to compliment their skills and style.

Weston hasnt played for ages, so thats probably why he hasnt done anything of note....but he was awesome at the start of the season....he was very good week in and week out for a very long time which is probably more than what can be said for some other players who get into the team each and every week.

This attitude fucking stinks.  Roberts makes runs and looks dangerous and fuck me yes sometimes when he goes on a run he loses the ball, guess what, even when the great Diego Maradona or Roberto Baggio went on runs sometimes they lost the ball too.

It doesn't always come off but the times it does it's great, as per his run on the right in the second half, followed by a nice ball across to the far edge of the area.  Robbo, Pook and Brown when he came on all played well on Monday.  

I just hope from next year when people buy tickets for the matches they can stick all the people who constantly slag off OUR players in one stand, then the rest of us can get on and support the lads.

Fuck me if I sit near the twat I was near on Monday who spent 95 minutes slating everything Roberts did I'll fucking launch for him, the old cunt!

I agree with most of what you have said there, but he clearly dosnt have a good shot.  The goal against Rovers must have been his first shot on target from outside the box this season. Good goal, but more than a touch of luck about it. Evans has a good shot. Weston / Pook / most of the rest of the team dont.

I appreciate that Pook isnt vey creative with the ball at his feet, but the way he is playing currently warrants inclusion in the team in my opinion.  We were not a creative team earlier in the season with Evans & Weston playing so its unrealistic to suggest Westons inclusion is somehow going to get us playing sexy football.

Not too bothered about playing sexy football just offering something different we are a bit one dimensional at times.  We invite pressure on with 2 defensive midfielders because we don't get out quick enough.  

Say for example if Phil Smith came and caught a cross and wanted to break quick Pook and Peacock wouldn't be sprinting out where as Weston say could make a quick run and get us on the front foot releasing any pressure.

Just think if we were more forward thinking we could win more comfortably in games.  We just always seem to be get a goal then try to hold on, not sure on the stats but the amount of 1 goal wins we have had must be massive and don't get me wrong if it gets us out of this god forsaken league then great but cant help feeling we should be winning games more convincingly (not 5-0 just 2-0 or 3-1 every so often would be great).

Well over the Bank Holiday weekend at both Hereford and Torquay it was nearly all the time.

Hey, sometimes Roberts is good, even shows flashes of brilliance (a la Walsall). But not recently.

If I think a player is playing shite then I will say so. Sorry about that.

But the point is that when weston was playing regually and well under wise we still wernt crushing teams 5-0! We still only won by 2 gaols max.

But weren't we also challenging for the title and winning alot more games?

No. We were 4th when Sturrock took over.

Knew I should of checked my stats although I'm sure the winning ratio was probably better as under Wise it was 8 wins 2 losses and 3 draws in the league which Weston was largely involved in.  

Although I will take this argument is becoming tiresome and join you in our shared hatred for that cunt Whalley has he not agreed a termination of his contract yet?  :evil:

I'm nearly certain we'd be in a similar position if Wise was still here.

We've not played good enough all season yet still find ourselves to this close to ideal position - whether it be with Weston, Onibuje, Monkhouse, Brownlie in the line-up or Zaaboub, Corr, Noubissie or Westwood we've not performed greatly - our best performance was under Sturrock at Walsall.

Tis as simple as that.

I have no doubts that Weston has the potential but I do remember Weston being slated for his performances on here.

Basically as long as we're in the top 3 - I couldn't less who is in the starting line-up in order to maintain that position.  :P

I genuinely believe with Brez (with no disrespect to Smith at all), Williams and Evans as the spine of a team all season we would have been champions - add to that a striker joining in january, and we would have had quality throughout.  Look at the biggest prem sides - Arsenal missing Henry and cohesion a the back haev struggled despite the obvious quality in the side.

Like Rich said top three is all that matters now - out of the league asap, we don't wanna be another Bristol Rovers and stuck here for years.

Yes it is a fair point I wasn't so much praising Wise more a case of wanting Weston to start.  I believe Sturrock is a better manager and finishing in the top 3 is the ultimate goal and getting out of this horrific division.

We will get a better idea on Sturrocks management next year once he gets to clear out the dead wood and brings in more of his own players and impacts more of his playing style on the team.

If majority of his signings are as good as Zaboub then we will be in good shape IMO but onwards and upwards, League 1 here we come (hopefully..).

Indeed. Lets all just agree that whalley is both shit and a cunt. :beers:

I'd put Weston in my team

Next to Matt Hewlett, and David Duke (Who was actually underated imo)

Yeah but you though Van Der Linden could be a striker " becasue he was Dutch", vis a vis I have invalidated your opinion.

I do worry about some of you chaps sometimes  :D