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If true, they get to take £750,000 out of the club from Lukas sale?!

Come May they will get the play off or promotion money out

Come June they will get season ticket money?!

Come start of July they will sell to the consortium and get the offered money out???

Do you honestly believe all the above mentioned money will go back into the club?

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Consortium come in and have to clear the CVA, then have no cash from promotion or season tickets.  This board are in a win win situation and anyone believing otherwise are fools.

I would hope.....really really really hope the board have enough sense to use the Lukas money for part of the final CVA payment.

but nothing will surprise me, least of all what you've just said Ash!

where the money goes from every income at the club worries me.

Well that's it for the consortium now then, the club will pay the CVA, all the fence sitters and board patsy's will be over the moon and the board will tell the consortium to fuck off.

I bet Bob Holt's creaming himself right now. Cunt.

they will never sell to the consortium - i think thats obvious

And yet, you're more than happy to see the board sell our brightest prospect....

Even if they do pay the CVA, it wouldn't surprise me if we still made losses as big as we do at the moment.

Why change the habit of a lifetime?

The CVA is just one of many issues - yes at the moment it's the most immediate but even if they turn round and pay it in full on the nose in June, it won't make a whit of difference to the long-term decline of the club they have presided over, the continual deceit of fans/shareholders, the lack of any real business plan/sense for the future, the total lack of transparency, the unexplained losses, the inadequate accounts, the succession of shady characters/incompetents brought in to preside over the ru(i)nning of the club, the fact I've got more chance of growing a womb than the board have of ever getting a ground redev going etc etc.

The Fans Consortium is about much more than the CVA - it's about having a properly run club, transparency and confidence in the way its being run, a stable platform to build on, unity between fans club and community for the first time in years, and some genuine hope for the future instead of bullshit and lies.

IF this goes through and we're still in a position where we have lost a major amount of money AGAIN! then that will be the final straw for me. If i'm honest Lucas has always looked kanckered after 1 mins, hardly going to be fit for the prem is he. I would hope we put in a % of next sale clause that way wherever he goes theres more £££ coming our way.

Is lucas ( 32 apps 3 goals for swindon) really worth:

2.5 Rory Fallons (89 apps 25 goals for swindon)
1.67 Sam Parkins  (142 apps 73 goals for swindon)

"the total lack of transparency"

which we have been told there will be no more of.  M Bowden 10/03/2007.

Wednesday 15 March 2007.  "The fee is unlikely to be made public" (words to that effect).

is he worth "2.5 Rory Fallons (89 apps 25 goals for swindon)"?

Yes, he is.   If Fallon's championship standard than Lukas is premiership class.

With top rate service Lukas could be a great find.  He's only struggling cos our team create next to nothing.

And this from the board which came in with the immortal line,'More money than you can shake a stick at.'

They should've change it to, 'We will lose more money than you can shake a stick at' !!

I bet about 80% of Lukas games were sub appearences....

you also have to remember Lukas is 17....Parkin and Fallon were both 24,

Fallon was out of contract in 6 months and Parkin had a year left

Lukas has 3 years left on his contract.

The transfer fee isnt just about the player, more so the contract

I dont think it will happen like that at all. Fence sitters arnt going to be impressed by selling our best young player for ages to pay the CVA which could have been p[aid by power and kept Lukas.

I still think that the deal on its own is good value if the £750k + add ons is accurate.

no i, like many others, will not rest until these bunch of idiots that run our club are gone!

But the board don't care about us Rich. It must be true, because Bob Holt said so.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: true but they are doing my head in now! i really don't have much patience left. they better start caring because these protests are not going to go away just because they have some money to pay the CVA. they will keep on coming and growing in numbers until they have no choice but to care what we think

agree with that, it was kinda my point, sort of.  In our team he doesn't look that great, but put him in a team where he'll get the support of better players that'll make him such the more finished article.

not happy at all.i just accept it as inevitable with all our better players.

It wouldn't have to be inevitable though if we had a board with a bit of ambition and passion for the cause.

we have always lost our better players.with power in charge or whoever, i doubt it would have been any different.it hasn't in the past so why would it change.we are a small club!

The difference with Power is that the money, or a significant proportion, would probably be re-invested back into the team.

agree.we still would lose our better players though

I just hope that many people who are undecided about the Board see it that way.

Im with you Rich.....time to up the ante....not that these cunts ever fuckin listen to us  mind.

Narked.

cunts cunts cunts

Agree 100% with both Arriba and Si pies comments here. Our best players will always leave, Power or no Power. Abromivich he is not. With debts removed though, at least a decent portion of it would end up in sturrocks hands.

Spot on.

If the fee being mentioned is correct then it's not a bad deal for us at all. My worry is that the board will come out this week and say 'this money will be used to pay the CVA' and then come the summer they will still be attempting to renegotiate the CVA because the transfer fee was used to cover "unforeseen losses".

Naturally, we'll never know the truth because THERE ARE NO FUCKING ACCOUNTS!

Absolutely. You know it, I know it and so does anybody with an ounce of common sense.

I doubt that they will get ALL the money up front, so cva re-negotiation on the strenght of the Lucas money will be the order of the day no doubt.

Cunts
:evil:

Agreed millom - far more likely that the money will be spread in my opinion. The main bit over say 6 months in 2/3 payments and then a further chunk on appearances (when/if they happen). I doubt we will get a sell on clause - if we have negotiated an "appearance" bonus then I guess further clauses are unlikely (hope I am wrong).

I think it is also likely that the CVA will start to look distinctly payable with that promise of income, as well as possibly some Wise compensation still kicking around.

Also didn't Andronikou say that he reckoned he had until December if he chose to to get the bullet payment in (or something like that?). I am sure he made that comment when you were pausing for breath - so hopefully you heard it too!!  :D  :P

Although, from reading the thread on thisis Mav, it appears that most of your theories and assumptions about the CVA turned out to be a load of old cock, due to not understanding it all properly. So, I'd be disinclined to take much notice of what you think "likely"

PaulD  :ha: Maverick

 8)

Another thing is will Lukas be available to play for us again this season? surely if Everton sign him then they would be worried about the possibility of him getting injured if he was playing for us so would insist that part of the deal is we dont risk him this season.

Perhaps it will be like the Spurs deal for Mills when we get someone of Jamie Slabbers calibre from Evertons youth as part of the deal.

This is bad, bad, bad all round  :evil:

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:  8)

First to admit to not undertsanding it all properly paul, as I did on the other forum. My guess is that 90% of us don't. It doesn't stop everyone from having opinions and thoughts and posting them though. It would be a dull forum that only posted absolute fact.

Maverick are you happy that in the best case scenario the transfer money will be used to pay off the cva?

You do talk some shit Maverick  :twisted:  :evil:

80% bollocks in fact townfanupnorth  8)

~shock~ Someone pass me the smelling salts.....Quick....Mav agreed with me :shock:  

:omg2:

 :P

Give us a kiss mav

Si Pi, why is that the best case scenario? As you said earlier, perhaps the best case scenario would be if the club is sold to somebody else - somebody with a vision for the club and a passion for football.

Hey millom don't let it go to your head - Paul is clearly disinclined to take any notice!!!  :D  :wink:

I meant the best case scenario with the transfer money.
Putting the takeover to one side, I'm completely unhappy with the Board selling up our best players, solely to to tide the club over.

We don't deserve to be anywhere but League 2 tbh

But that's not your personal idea of the best case scenario, is it?

now you are getting it! :roll:

sam_stfc why wouldn't it be? Of course it is and I would suggest the same can be said of at least 99% of fans.

si pi - I would far rather the money was spent on investing in a squad for next season, but right now that is not wher we are. As long as we have the present Board then they will have their own way of dealing with things. Much as that angers most right-minded fans (oh and left-minded to include Paul D!  :P ).

I don't think anyone should sit and accept the Board's actions just because it's where we are.

The club have stated they wanted someone to come in and buy the club - only if they have the financial clout and it will also prove for the good of the club. The evidence thus far shows that the good of the club would have been better served by selling to the Consortium.

Si Pi - I have no idea what has happened between them all, or what still is perhaps. But as you have said elsewhere it seems clear that they have no desire to sell to the Consortium. So we have to cling to the vain hope that someone else comes along (unless we are still to believe that someone else has!). I cannot see why they should listen or need to listen to protests or anything else ............................. for now.

but why wont they sell????
the offer is there, and its time they moved on

I disagree

(but you knew I would say that didn't you Mav)  8)

I would have thought as an independent Councillor you'd stick up more for what you believe in. If you want the Board to sell to someone you should let them know.

god knopws arriba - but clearly there is a reason - misguided or otherwise.

I fail to see why after 3 months in the role, Bowden has failed to get any outline plans drawn up instead of his painting pictures with words at resi-meetings. So far, from what i have seen of the bloke,he is all feckin talk.
I would not mind, but his belittleing  of the "fatally Flawed" trust outline plans(put together in a sympathetic manor and in consultation with those who live in and around the cgh)may have alienated the club further from the residential groups that they need on-side.

The blokes a plonker.

I agree fatbury with the  lucas money paying off the cva they will have no intention negotiating with the consortium.

That's quite a big assumption, newmarket, they got the thick end of a million and a half quid in last summer and still didn't manage to pay a £100k CVA installment. What makes you think they're any more likely to pay 900k this summer?

funny that, as I would have thought as an independent Councillor he'd sit on the fence and have no opinion of his own, other than the opposite of everyone elses opinions.

Maverick you are a funny little man :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Tee hee hee... 8)

Thanks Mods

And even if they tell us they have, would you believe them?

Without seeing up to date and accurate accounts, I bloody well wouldn't.

Thank fuck I'm off my antibiotics and I can drink again, I fucking need it after reading all this shit today.

 :twisted: and that doesn't sum it up enough tbh.

I know one thing this club wont get anymore of my well earned cash until there is a new board in charge and the numptys in charge are bannished. :fu:

And theres me thinking there a trusting bunch :shock: