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Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:23:16
not a dig at those that partake in this,
but i dont think it will make any difference at all.if things dont move on(as i expect) only a full boycott will make an impact imo.
discuss!


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: DiV on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:25:16
i think people are already starting to vote with their feet....5462....thats a fucking rubbish attendence


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:26:27
i disagree but abstain from giving a reason as you're the new gary stanley

burn the witch


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: herthab on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:27:08
The attendance has probably got more to do with the shit results we've recently  had, than what's going on off the field.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:28:58
Quote from: "bennett"
i disagree but abstain from giving a reason as you're the new gary stanley

burn the witch

dont credit me with as little intelligence please


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:31:06
hehehehe any excuse for a put down

i doubt they'd be the direct reason for the board leaving, however it's good and positive and gets the point accross.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:32:38
like i said bennett.not a dig at those that do and all that


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:34:33
i thought i'd offer my part to the discussion or are we not allowed to discuss the positives of this action?

you're worse than sonic


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: yeo on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:38:16
I dont think anyone expects the board  to go just because there is protesting outside the Arkells.Its more about keeping the presssure on.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:41:08
do you think total boycotts of matches will need to be made to drive the message home?


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:41:44
can't be boycott stuff in the summer?


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:41:53
Agreeing with a Yeovil Red post? In my situation? Spose there aint anything else to do on a Saturday night.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: yeo on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:42:46
No because it wont work,you wouldnt get the numbers.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, February 24, 2007, 23:59:49
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
I dont think anyone expects the board  to go just because there is protesting outside the Arkells.Its more about keeping the presssure on.


Exactly, just making voices heard is what counts right now.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: TalkTalk on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 00:12:14
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
I dont think anyone expects the board  to go just because there is protesting outside the Arkells.Its more about keeping the presssure on.

Spot on that man.

13 last week.

46 this week.

200+ for Accy?

Let's quadruple it each time.

Get your arse along next time Yeovil.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: figgis on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 00:12:51
i think a boycott of buying burgers programs and other things would hit the board in the wallet as its been sugested someone on the board owns the catering company for the matchday concessions and also the printing and suply of the match program. just think every burger £1 goes straight out the back door into the corrupt bastards pockets and history says hit them in the pockets is the way to hurt them. 30 or so fans gobbing off aint going to make them change their opinions.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 00:16:59
Arriba, did you not say a few weeks back more direct action was needed?
Im not having ago, just wondered, I maybe wrong.
Also, were you there today behind The Arkells?


Title: Re: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Spud on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 00:25:18
Quote from: "arriba"
not a dig at those that partake in this,
but i dont think it will make any difference at all.if things dont move on(as i expect) only a full boycott will make an impact imo.
discuss!


As stated before, i wont be forced to stay at home and miss the Footy by the current regime we have in place.

If standing at the back of the Arkells gets some sort of point across then thats the way im going to go about it.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: townfanupnorth on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 00:30:51
Direct action in the form of protests is in my opinion the best thing to do.

I don't understand some of the people that do not protest, we need to put the board under heavy pressure and try and force them to talk to the consortium.

Doing nothing is going to achieve nothing, not protesting means the board will be laughing and they would be under no pressure to sell.

The more people that protest the better, hope to see alot more behind the arkells after the accrington game.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Leggett on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 01:23:03
you fuckers better sing up at accy. :D


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: yeo on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 01:25:22
Quote from: "figgis"
i think a boycott of buying burgers programs and other things would hit the board in the wallet as its been sugested someone on the board owns the catering company for the matchday concessions and also the printing and suply of the match program. just think every burger £1 goes straight out the back door into the corrupt bastards pockets and history says hit them in the pockets is the way to hurt them. 30 or so fans gobbing off aint going to make them change their opinions.


welcome to the TEF


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: pauld on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 01:30:35
I think arriba should be forced to change his screen name to "up the ante" - a few weeks back it was "Orange hats are shit, demos behind the Arkells are the only way to make em listen", now it's "Demos are shit, boycotts are the only way forward". Roll forward a few weeks to "Boycotts are shit, tactical nuclear devices must be deployed".  :D (only jossing, arriba - clearly, as a Trust person I know full well that long meetings are the way to achieve results  :D )


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 01:36:18
I think Bob Holt would say arriba didn't exist and obviously I would be inclined to believe him


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: pauld on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 01:39:34
What you have to understand about arriba is that in many ways he's like a house in that he, erm, .... has a chimney and windows and things? I hope that makes the situation clearer - if not I'm sure Mr Andronikou would be happy to clairfy any remaining arriba-related matters (subject to his discretion, of course)


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 09:32:12
Quote from: "herthab"
The attendance has probably got more to do with the shit results we've recently  had, than what's going on off the field.


yes partly. but you have to look at the fact that before the turn of the year we were still getting over 7000. since the turn of the year we haven't even had 7000 i dont think. and results in January were going our way. so make of that what you will...


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 11:06:01
If I'm honest, I was slightly disappointed with the turnout behind the Arkells yesterday.  I counted 45 of us - so that's less than 1% of a very poor over all crowd.  But then again the Trust has not given its backing to these more direct protests...and I spoke to a number of people yesterday who said they would be there if/when the Trust gives the OK.

Having said all that, I think we did get our message across.  Several people who I assume were hospitality guests were looking out of the window with some surprise.  At least the board are not going to be able to bullshit corporate sponsors with the line that all is well at STFC.

As we said yesterday...We'll be back again next week.  And the week after, if necessary.  And the week after that.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 12:01:19
Amen.
I was happy with the turnout to be honest, obviously I'd have loved there to have been three hundred of us but considering we'd just won and gone into third, and like you say the Trust haven't backed this, then I thought 45-50 was ok.
Everyone brings someone else next time, which isn't out of the question, then we've got 100 making a noise.
Also, we didn't really get started until most of the fans had left the ground. If we were to be out there and singing "one Bill Power" as all the town fans are filtering past, we're bound to pick up more people joining in.
Onwards and upwards, the futures bright, the futures orange :beers:


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Amir on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 12:13:56
As I've said, I thought it was a good idea to wait until the trust decided to protest.  However, the more I think about it the more I think it's a good idea to have protests without their backing, as it shows the strength of feeling without antagonising the board against the consortium further.  Or at least they can't put the blame onto the FC when things are still hopefully progressing(however slowly), if you see what I mean.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Arriba on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 12:30:13
Quote from: "pauld"
I think arriba should be forced to change his screen name to "up the ante" - a few weeks back it was "Orange hats are shit, demos behind the Arkells are the only way to make em listen", now it's "Demos are shit, boycotts are the only way forward". Roll forward a few weeks to "Boycotts are shit, tactical nuclear devices must be deployed".  :D (only jossing, arriba - clearly, as a Trust person I know full well that long meetings are the way to achieve results  :D )

 :D
i thought the orange hats didn't really have much effect,but dont remember saying standing outside the arkells was the way to go.i am not saying demos are shit either, but you need far greater numbers to have an effect imo.i dont want to boycott but i think it would really have an effect. desperate times may call for desperate measures. i am hoping that things will get sorted by the solicitors and the right thing can be done to take stfc forward.then there will be no need for any form of protest.fucking unlikely  though.

really i am just confused by it all if i'm honest ,and am just thinking out loud when posting on here.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: ronnie21 on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 12:37:56
As we said yesterday...We'll be back again next week.  And the week after, if necessary.  And the week after that.[/quote]
Be a pretty pointless exercise next week I would imagine, all the directors would have piled into MikeyD's motor and gone to Stockport!  There again they might just be at the CG preparing the long overdue accounts! :lol2:


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 14:48:47
I think the main thing is we need to start somewhere. The orange has continued to happen and we've gone onto active protests. Hopefully this is the beginning of something that will work.

We know for a fact we've rattle the Board with our cva chants etc etc, hopefully more and more people will be encouraged along. I can't see many (if any) who protested at the last game not doing the same again.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: reeves4england on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 22:03:34
I think the idea of being out there at FT is good if you want to catch people on their way out. Even if people don't join in atleast they will see that actiona is being taken


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Luci on Sunday, February 25, 2007, 23:05:44
I think the numbers that showed up were pretty good considering that it was really only discussed via forums.  

What surprises me is that across the forums, so many people are moaning about the current board, know the protest plans and say its a good idea then don't show up! (Understandably people who were unable to make it have stated they would have been there otherwise).

I do however, think a lot of people are nervous of being in the minority protest wise (not in the minority of wanting the board out of course), but when a significant number show up, I'm sure they'll join in pretty quickly.  

I think bigger numbers for Accy and think its a pretty good all round effort to those who turned up.


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: millom red on Monday, February 26, 2007, 04:11:46
I couldnt make it as i have been having needles stuffed into me since friday having been told ive got a fuck off big DVT behind my left knee! :shock:

Warfarin and heperin injections for the next couple of weeks and NO Alcohol :shock:  :shock:

Well done to those that WERE there.

All being well, i will be there for the next one. :wink:


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Bennett on Monday, February 26, 2007, 08:15:41
we can have a "special wing" of the protests for you n leggett if you want? i'll get some cones and nappies in  :D


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Phil_S on Monday, February 26, 2007, 09:55:15
I  had to shoot off & pick up the ball & chain, but would've been fine until ten past five.

Has to be straight after the match finishes !


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: Give us an S on Monday, February 26, 2007, 10:27:07
I think the key problem is communication. The reason only 1% of the attendance were out the back of the Arkells stand is because i bet not much more knew something was planned.

Get a few thousand fliers printed stating what we are protesting, why we are protesting, where and when we are protesting. To have an effect and make the board wake up you need numbers. And to get that we need better communication.

On another note, I cant see it happening, but a sit in would be interesting. After a match no one leaves the ground. Not sure if this would work but if it did it could be effective. Whatever we do, communication is the key!


Title: protests out the back wont work
Post by: millom red on Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 05:58:30
Quote from: "bennett"
we can have a "special wing" of the protests for you n leggett if you want? i'll get some cones and nappies in  :D


Cunt. :D .. Im not on crutches though... :(

 :mrgreen: