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Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:08:55 Perhaps a little close to the consortium/boardroom poll on the Adver but I’d be interested to know if the same sentiment is translated into support or even outright opposition to the current board’s plans to re-develop the CG.
Details are sketchy at best when in the public domain so I’ve thrown in hopefully enough caveats to keep everyone happy with circumstances as they are. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:14:41 Under this board I would not back anything its gone too far for me. I have voted outright opposed under the current regime. I would be seriously worried where any profits from a development would go.
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:14:53 aaarrggh double post
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:15:24 Went for opposed at present but negotiable. To be honest, if they produce a well thought out, funded and properly maintained development proposal then it would get my backing.
That means: a) something the local community can support b) something that provides fans what they want c) something that ring fences revenue for the club and not individuals or seperate companies d) has stringent ownership built in, pref by the Council and possibly a group represented in equal measure of fans, local residents and the club. Based on what little we know so far, a) is not being properly considered, d) is debatable given the loan note issue meaning they'll want to recoup profits as is c). Only b) has no negatives yet, but that's because it has had no details given. My big concern is the club arse this up, as seems likely do far, like they have before and end-up annoying locals and the Council even more, making it more difficult for anyone to do a job in the future. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:29:06 Spot on Rob.
I don’t want to be ultimately pessimistic but evidence to date hasn’t been encouraging and where there is a lack of detail on past performance I’m (rightly or wrongly) going to presume the worst. Interested to hear the from those giving 100% backing. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Hexagon on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:33:02 I mis read the question gave 100% backing. I should of said Opposed at present but negotiable.
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:34:14 Not with the current prats in charge.
Saying that with Bowden in charge of it, it's not likely to come off anyway !!! Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: genf_stfc on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:37:07 100% behind everyone else thats posted so far - i just don't trust this board, have no idea of their motivations and no confidence in their abilities. Even if it was done with the best philanthropic intentions, i still would not be surprised if there was a nasty surprise, if that makes any sense.
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:38:40 I'll support it if the CVA is paid immediately, Diamandis, Bowden and the rest of Newbury leave and a fans rep is pput on the Board (who isn't Gary fucking Stanley)
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:39:40 Didn't actually read all the poll, just voted 100% to the redevelopment.
After reading all the options, I'd have gone for support with conditions. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 13:45:30 I voted "Support on condition(s)..." Those conditions being that none of the current mob make a fast buck through redevelopment, and that future revenues from conferencing etc are put into the club rather than a Kassam - esque situation. The only thing I wouldnt object to is SSW getting some of his money back or charges released off his land etc.
To be honest I think some of you are so blinded with rage and hatred for the current set up that you are forgetting what we want: A club that can stand on its own two feet. I still would much rather have the consortium in charge as I dont really hyave any faith that the current regime can get anything right, but just on the off chance that they spawned a sucessful redevelopment plan with the conditions abvove I would support it. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: fatbury on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 14:16:13 totally opposed to anything under the current regime
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: quinnismyhero on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 14:53:25 Quote from: "Piemonte" I voted "Support on condition(s)..." Those conditions being that none of the current mob make a fast buck through redevelopment, and that future revenues from conferencing etc are put into the club rather than a Kassam - esque situation. The only thing I wouldnt object to is SSW getting some of his money back or charges released off his land etc. To be honest I think some of you are so blinded with rage and hatred for the current set up that you are forgetting what we want: A club that can stand on its own two feet. I still would much rather have the consortium in charge as I dont really hyave any faith that the current regime can get anything right, but just on the off chance that they spawned a sucessful redevelopment plan with the conditions abvove I would support it. I voted the same for the same reasons - well posted! Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 15:19:58 Quote from: "Piemonte" I voted "Support on condition(s)..." Those conditions being that none of the current mob make a fast buck through redevelopment, and that future revenues from conferencing etc are put into the club rather than a Kassam - esque situation. The only thing I wouldnt object to is SSW getting some of his money back or charges released off his land etc. To be honest I think some of you are so blinded with rage and hatred for the current set up that you are forgetting what we want: A club that can stand on its own two feet. I still would much rather have the consortium in charge as I dont really hyave any faith that the current regime can get anything right, but just on the off chance that they spawned a sucessful redevelopment plan with the conditions abvove I would support it. Hence why most selected Opposed but negotiable - i.e all the current info suggests another badly contrived plan is on it's way, but if they could produce a plan that is worthwhile I'd support it regardless of who presents it. They could, if they wanted, use the Trusts proposals. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 15:38:38 Fair enough Rob, I blame Dazzzas poll for splitting the fanbase :D
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 15:44:25 What's the difference between 'Opposed, but negotiable' and 'Support, on conditions'?
Sounds the same to me.............................. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 15:48:59 My thought was that Support with Conditions meant you were generally happy with what's on the tabel as far as we know now. I'm not - the details so far released suggest another plan beign proposed without proper consultation, I don't support what I know already but would not rule out supporting a plan from the current gang.
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 16:34:49 I think those who are outright opposed are blinkered (majority currently) . Whilst I appreciate that it would take something of a miracle for our current friends to actually get something right - if that happened it should be supported in my opinion - it would move the club forward.
Frankly it does nothing to dispell the myth that the trust are "personal empire building" I dont believe that & I'm a trust member, but others wouldnt see it that way. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: RobertT on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 16:45:45 as I type the suport options combined have 50%.
Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 17:03:35 Quote from: "Piemonte" I think those who are outright opposed are blinkered (majority currently) . Whilst I appreciate that it would take something of a miracle for our current friends to actually get something right - if that happened it should be supported in my opinion - it would move the club forward. Frankly it does nothing to dispell the myth that the trust are "personal empire building" I dont believe that & I'm a trust member, but others wouldnt see it that way. I'm outright opposed because it means there is no reason to sell the club to the consortium. Which means we have to put up with being lied to and treated with contempt. It's too high a price to pay for me i'm afraid. Title: Would you support/oppose a CG redevelopment at present? Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, February 23, 2007, 02:00:34 Went for support with conditions, but could someone explain how this is different to opposed but negotiable?? Basically we all mean pretty much the same thing, as stated above, but not sure how to show that?
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