Title: ratings v barnet Post by: DMR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:16:23 p smith- fuck all to do other than pick the ball out of his net, handled a few shots nicely- 6
j smith- his worst game of the season, pass it to fucking fett boy- 2 ifil- awol early but otherwise a quiet game- 5 vincent- liability at centre half- 4 nicholas- nothing too bad, never offered a threat- 4 shakes- didn't get into it for an hour and their left back dealt with him well- 3 weston- runs around alot but does nothing with the ball- 4 timlin- gash- 2 roberts- a performance of truly wanker proportions and missed our only chance, a header from a whopping 2 yards- 1 lukas- looked lost on his own this time and first touch is appalling, we need peacock (where was he, injured?)- 3 i've deliberatley ignored brown. i know we're still up there etc etc but this is a month without a win isn't it? today was very poor and the players didn't want it. sturrock got it wrong leaving lukas the only man up front when we were chasing the game and why the fuck put roberts wide and brown central? Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:21:07 Dave teh team need to understand fans take days off and spend money travelling to support them. Lately they have not given us what we deserve
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: DMR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:25:48 I did manage a round of golf this morning so the day off wasn't a complete waste of time 8)
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:27:31 You were lucky, I left swindon at 11, pissed off now
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:30:05 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" Dave teh team need to understand fans take days off and spend money travelling to support them. Lately they have not given us what we deserve hahaha, fans really do have such an unjustified sense of importance they're not playing for you, they're playing for themselves Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:31:59 so spending hard earned money and travel god knows how many hours supporting the team means fuck all? The players have a moral duty to try and win football matches, somehow they didnt even show up tonight.
Thats me done now apart from games I really want to go to now. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: pauld on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:35:13 Exactly, they are playing for themselves. That's what pisses people off - we pay their wages, go through hell and high water to support them, and they don't even have the decency (or come to that the personal pride and self-respect) to pretend to be bothered. Town fans have always respected triers, even when they weren't exactly top quality, but conversely no-one has any time for the wasters who can't be arsed.
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:37:15 Spot on Paul.
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: DMR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:39:09 Quote from: "Boeta" Quote from: "Bushey Boy" Dave teh team need to understand fans take days off and spend money travelling to support them. Lately they have not given us what we deserve hahaha, fans really do have such an unjustified sense of importance they're not playing for you, they're playing for themselves oh piss off and post some more i-know-best-because-i-average-15-for-cirencester bollocks Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Luci on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:43:58 Without the fans money who pays their wages.......
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:47:41 when sturrock sticks up for his employers tommorow and the poor results lately it doesn't bode well does it?
i have a bad feeling about things at the moment Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 00:48:29 same arriba, thsi club is going one way at the moment
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: strooood on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 02:38:19 they were all wank, roberts should have scored on the one occasion we even thought about getting near their goal and we seemed incapable of stringing 3 passes together the whole night.
it was all so reminiscent of cheltenham that time it's a bit worrying but one thing i will say, in 04, we peaked just before we needed to, meaning when we went to QPR and lost we needed that draw vs h'pool. but im hoping we're stumbling a bit now, only for us to finish the season in style. we had over half the crowd tonight but you wouldnt have known it, not a peep out of us the whole night, not helped by the open terrace and the absolute gash served up on the pitch mind. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: larwood on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 08:24:18 Quote from: "strooood" but im hoping we're stumbling a bit now, only for us to finish the season in style. Sod that,i want to be up asap,its not going to happen if we keep performing so badly though :( Losing to Barnet,fucking hell :rain: Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 08:43:37 Agree with all those ratings, Dave.
Time for changes. Lukas, Vincent, Roberts and Weston were awful. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 09:02:07 They were a fucking disgrace. I'm so angry even now
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 09:53:52 We did not look like a team going for promotion last night. Not even a little bit. That was poor poor poor poor poor. If we do not improve 110% starting on Saturday we are going absolutely fucking nowhere this season. What a shower of shit. Phil Smith can stay, the rest can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.
The support was fantastic as always and way better than those tossers deserve. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: juddie on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:18:49 Fairy muff, Vincent was embarassing in the middle but harsh on some of the others. Weston came into the game the more it went on and he started taking players on.. he's just come back into the side so we can;t expoect too much. With that said I wonder why pooky didn;t start - the game was crying out for someone who would run about, try and tackle and hassle like he does.
To be honest they all looked disinterested, but thought timlin got better, weston got better and Roberts treied hard for 15 minutes. Other than that.... Oh yeah - Jerel was decent again, but when are we going to start defending set pieces? It's embarassing. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:25:30 Quote from: "dave_m_russell" Quote from: "Boeta" Quote from: "Bushey Boy" Dave teh team need to understand fans take days off and spend money travelling to support them. Lately they have not given us what we deserve hahaha, fans really do have such an unjustified sense of importance they're not playing for you, they're playing for themselves oh piss off and post some more i-know-best-because-i-average-15-for-cirencester bollocks i think i do know more than you about such issues because i have something which many on here don't, which is a sense of perspective what the fuck my cricketing perfomances have got to do with this i have no idea (although for the record my average last season was twice the figure you posted) i do agree with what you guys are saying to some extent but i post in a black and white way to issues which are somewhere in between because it's more entertaining. and more you guys get wound up by it the more fun it becomes. ben wah balls on crouch is exactly the same i just find it a bit sad how some people think footballers are an extension of themselves just because they play for the team they support Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:31:20 So basically you're saying you're an arrogant gobsite cock who attends 2 games a season and finds it ammusing that some people actually care that they spent time and money travelling to a shithole only for the very people whos wages I pay to not try?
Fuck me I wich I had your sense of perspective. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:38:11 This may be a conspiracy theory to far....but from the start of the season, I've felt our players have been motivated by the reportedly lavish bonus scheme that accompanies promotion.
The thought has always been in the back of the mind, that the Board would try and scupper this in some way to ensure another season in Div 4.....when our players seem as disinterestd as this, I wonder if they've been royally fucked off by something in the background, so are going through the motions...the like sof brown knows he's off in a couple of months, so doesn't give a shit. Roberts/ Weston look like that as well. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Boeta on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:46:53 Quote from: "Piemonte" So basically you're saying you're an arrogant gobsite cock who attends 2 games a season and finds it ammusing that some people actually care that they spent time and money travelling to a shithole only for the very people whos wages I pay to not try? Fuck me I wich I had your sense of perspective. you choose what you spend your money on. you knew before the start of the season swindon's squad contains an untalented bunch of wankers and nothing's changed. if i forced myself to attach my emotions to that lot i'd be feeling pretty fucked off right now as well. i support swindon but i don't have any expectations of them. why should i because it is not particularly clever to have expectations of things you cannot control and don't bring how many games i go to now into it. for ten years i went home and away every week. the fact you feel the need to bring this into it and dave to start chatting about my average shows how weak your argument is Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:51:52 it may have been shit last night but we still have a great chance of promotion.
also i cannot believe some of the stuff i have read on the forums today. people were demanding lucas and weston started games,when they do the team plays poorly and they are not good enough? ALL of our players are much of a muchness with very little between any of them really. people are starting to turn on the manager,abusing players who then give it back,and the doom and gloom is in great effect now. take pook for instance,he loves the club and gives everything when he plays but alot of fans dislike him.he cannot win. after tonight i think even more fans will turn on the manager,and that has me worried as i think the fans could play their part in fucking this season up.brown will get abuse from now on and if we dont take an early lead on saturday i think the crowd will get on the players backs. i think we are in grave danger of falling apart now. it may have been awful alst night but we have to keep believing and supporting, for now at least Title: ratings v barnet Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 10:56:05 I have no arguement to add, but i think the tone of every one Boeta's posts makes him sound like a grade A prick.
That is all. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 11:37:52 Quote from: "Boeta" Quote from: "Piemonte" So basically you're saying you're an arrogant gobsite cock who attends 2 games a season and finds it ammusing that some people actually care that they spent time and money travelling to a shithole only for the very people whos wages I pay to not try? Fuck me I wich I had your sense of perspective. you choose what you spend your money on. you knew before the start of the season swindon's squad contains an untalented bunch of wankers and nothing's changed. if i forced myself to attach my emotions to that lot i'd be feeling pretty fucked off right now as well. i support swindon but i don't have any expectations of them. why should i because it is not particularly clever to have expectations of things you cannot control and don't bring how many games i go to now into it. for ten years i went home and away every week. the fact you feel the need to bring this into it and dave to start chatting about my average shows how weak your argument is I dont have a weak arguement at all. You dont go to many games therefore your opinion is less worthwhile. Thats not personal, i dont comment on games I dont go to. You've admitted yourself you come on here to wind up hardcore fans of the same club you allegedly support. That makes you look a right cunt. As for knowing "swindon's squad contains an untalented bunch of wankers" depends what context you place that comment. We all know the sqaud isnt champions league quality, but it is not unrealistic to expect A. promotion B. to beat a team from a club that had 1200 fans last night C. even if we dont beat them that the players try Title: ratings v barnet Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 11:46:11 Quote from: "Boeta" hahaha, fans really do have such an unjustified sense of importance That is one fucking crass comment right there. You should be a football club Director :? Title: ratings v barnet Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 12:51:39 Roberts and Brown simply have to go !
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: adje on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 15:31:44 As a protest I'm going to Fulham on Sat-I feel sooo dirrrrty!
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: genf_stfc on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 15:34:05 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" This may be a conspiracy theory to far....but from the start of the season, I've felt our players have been motivated by the reportedly lavish bonus scheme that accompanies promotion. The thought has always been in the back of the mind, that the Board would try and scupper this in some way to ensure another season in Div 4.....when our players seem as disinterestd as this, I wonder if they've been royally fucked off by something in the background, so are going through the motions...the like sof brown knows he's off in a couple of months, so doesn't give a shit. Roberts/ Weston look like that as well. good question for the fan's forum... Title: ratings v barnet Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 15:40:00 absolutely!
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 16:29:14 Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant" I have no arguement to add, but i think the tone of every one Boeta's posts makes him sound like a grade A prick. That is all. That would be because he is a Grade A prick. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Spencer_White on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 19:12:12 Boeta speaks like a boy who has never never had a job, and never valued a living.
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: aroundthefur on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:25:13 League Two is a very ordinary standard of professional sport to watch. In fact, I have real doubts whether League Two should even be professional but that's a different argument. The majority of players in this league aren't really very good and therefore you are usually paying to watch dross.
The "I only want to see effort" argument is a joke. If I pay to watch sport I want to watch skill, not some headless chickens run about. I have watched Swindon twice this season and might go once again. In the past I have had season tickets and followed the team away from home regularly but I have no interest in watching League Two standard football. If the club ever sorts itself out and gets back to a decent level I might watch on a regular basis. You guys aren't martyrs for the Swindon Town cause so don't come over all sanctimonious for fuck's sake. You do understand you are not forced to pay and watch Swindon play? Some of you make it sound like some warped sense of duty. If it doesn't provide you with enjoyment then go and find something else to do that does. Otherwise accept that all sporting players/teams have ups and downs and cannot perform well every game/all season. The team is 4th in the table and has a very good chance of automatic promotion. Just chill out and enjoy it. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:27:11 you really do understand what being a supporter is about......
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: aroundthefur on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:31:48 Yeah, supporting is about backing the team, not getting on their back when they perform badly as certain individuals on this message board seem to doing after a few under-par results.
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: DV on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:41:39 ...but you just said you wont go this season because its so bad?
So, if the team plays bad...dont get on their backs just stop going? Title: ratings v barnet Post by: aroundthefur on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:45:22 If you think the quality of football on offer isn't worth the money it costs to watch, then don't go, yeah. Makes sense really I reckon.
The alternative is buy over-priced tickets to watch ordinary sportsmen and then whinge and moan when they don't perform brilliantly all the time. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Spencer_White on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:53:45 Football isnt just about silky skills.
What about the goals, the atmosphere, the new grounds and places, the rivalries, the people you've got something in common with. I go because its still worth it and I still enjoy it, even when it is bad its still the only team I care about. I was on a train at 11am on a tuesday with a lager in my hand yesterday morning, who else can do that? 95% of the country was at work. If you think footballs about 90 minutes and a few flicks and tricks thats your loss. Youre the 'sky sports generation' mug there matey. Doesnt mean I cant moan about Aaron cunt Brown. If everyone thought the same way as you there wouldnt be an STFC to get back on the bandwagon of. If you think thats sanctimonious then fuck you, its true. You'd have to fuck off to Reading and all of their fans who didnt turn up 10 years ago, not that you'd seem too bothered about it. Fuck me. Is this armchair supporters united? Title: ratings v barnet Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 20:57:40 Quote from: "aroundthefur" If you think the quality of football on offer isn't worth the money it costs to watch, then don't go, yeah. Makes sense really I reckon. The alternative is buy over-priced tickets to watch ordinary sportsmen and then whinge and moan when they don't perform brilliantly all the time. Fuck me it's David Mellor :? You need to read Fever Pitch mate - that is what being a football fan is about (that and what Spencer said - :toppost: ) Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:08:53 Quote from: "aroundthefur" If you think the quality of football on offer isn't worth the money it costs to watch, then don't go, yeah. Makes sense really I reckon. The alternative is buy over-priced tickets to watch ordinary sportsmen and then whinge and moan when they don't perform brilliantly all the time. If you watched Sky tv football and it suddenly decided to give a snowy picture for 60 mins of 90 you would kick up a fuss, no? Oh and your point is irrelevant because this is a thread about one match. How are you supposed to know what they are going to play like before you buy your ticket? Title: ratings v barnet Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:13:56 If I want to watch a good game of football then I'd watch Arsenal on telly. I watch Swindon because I care passionately about the results, the club, the team, the players and I enjoy the feelings associated with those.
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:25:35 Quote from: "sonic youth" If I want to watch a good game of football then I'd watch Arsenal on telly. I watch Swindon because I care passionately about the results, the club, the team, the players and I enjoy the feelings associated with those. spot on again sonic as was spencer above. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:26:53 And let's face it, Arsenal have played games on telly where they've been a complete shower of shite for 90mins
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: spacey on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:51:33 Yeah, what Spencer and Sonic said...
...although I agree more with what Spencer said cos it was more manly. Sonic went on about caring and having feelings for players which is frankly abit gay. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:52:49 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:53:34 You're not allowed an opinion on footballing matters fuckspack.
Title: ratings v barnet Post by: DMR on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 21:57:50 Quote from: "sonic youth" fuckspack. an impressive amalgamation of insults, good work Title: ratings v barnet Post by: Piemonte on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 10:09:22 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Football isnt just about silky skills. What about the goals, the atmosphere, the new grounds and places, the rivalries, the people you've got something in common with. I go because its still worth it and I still enjoy it, even when it is bad its still the only team I care about. I was on a train at 11am on a tuesday with a lager in my hand yesterday morning, who else can do that? 95% of the country was at work. If you think footballs about 90 minutes and a few flicks and tricks thats your loss. Youre the 'sky sports generation' mug there matey. Doesnt mean I cant moan about Aaron cunt Brown. If everyone thought the same way as you there wouldnt be an STFC to get back on the bandwagon of. If you think thats sanctimonious then fuck you, its true. You'd have to fuck off to Reading and all of their fans who didnt turn up 10 years ago, not that you'd seem too bothered about it. Fuck me. Is this armchair supporters united? Thats an ace post :clap: Boeta and Aroundthefur just dont get it. All things are relative. STFC's current players are generally not very good in the grand scheme of things, I acccept that and I expect 95% of people on here would. But we have every right to expect them to beat Barnet as we clearly have a better side than they do (see league table). Which is what makes it all the more agravating we we lose through lack of effort. Title: ratings v barnet Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 10:22:19 If the only reason for going to football was to be entertained by the game, then no one would go to the majority of games from Championship down (Even some of the top flight play shite football).
I can count the number of times I've been 'entertained' by attractive football from Swindon this season on one hand(And I don't need all 4 fingers and a thumb!) There's a myriad of reasons why I go and of course I'd like to see a great game, but in league 2 that's very rare. Swindon are my Team, for better or worse. People have been moaning about the lack of loyalty in football, seems like there's fans who suffer from that affliction too.... Title: ratings v barnet Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 15:40:22 As somebody mentioned before, this time last week people were calling for Weston and Lukas to be back in the team and for Pook to be dropped.
So far in this thread I have read several complaints about Weston and Lukas and have seen somebody complaining about the decision to drop Pook. It may not necessarily be the same people but it really pisses me off when people just slag off something because it was somebody else who made it happen |