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Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:03:04 With Ady Williams expected to be out for an "unspecified time" it raises the questions as to why we let Charlie Comyn Platt go - im sure CCP would have fitted into centre back much more effectively than Jamie Vincent did - he was way too short for the role and it showed. As most teams have large forwards and kick it long this is going to make us vulnerable in the air.
Now its reported that we may make a loan signing to cover the area - seems ridiculous when we had a player to play there and gave him away to Rochdale! Also we are looking woefully short of firepower up front .. Lukas needs to be given a chance - Roberts is looking particularly poor of late - However Sturrock seems to be deflecting criticism of this away .. yet its abundantly clear that is where our main problem is and has been all season. Also cant quite understand Weston not playing when our midfield is currently not dominating games due to Pook and Timlin both being too similar ie HOLDING midfielders - the drive of Weston is needed. If we dont address there problems we will be in the playoffs and almost certain NOT to win them IMO Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:07:36 Quote With Ady Williams expected to be out for an "unspecified time" it raises the questions as to why we let Charlie Comyn Platt go - im sure CCP would have fitted into centre back much more effectively than Jamie Vincent did - he was way too short for the role and it showed. As most teams have large forwards and kick it long this is going to make us vulnerable in the air. Jerel ifil. Also, move nicho into the middle, and push vincent out wide. That said, i thought vincent di ok on saturday. Quote Also we are looking woefully short of firepower up front .. Lukas needs to be given a chance - Roberts is looking particularly poor of late - However Sturrock seems to be deflecting criticism of this away .. yet its abundantly clear that is where our main problem is and has been all season. Roberts looked threatening on saturday. And IMO, peacock and roberts is our best strikeforce. Lukas has talent, but is too much of a similar player to peacock. Quote Also cant quite understand Weston not playing when our midfield is currently not dominating games due to Pook and Timlin both being too similar ie HOLDING midfielders - the drive of Weston is needed. Exactly. Drop pook. Quote If we dont address there problems we will be in the playoffs and almost certain NOT to win them IMO Negative bastard. BELIEVE. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:16:51 Not trying to be negative just realistic... but we should be coasting through this division ... and we seem to be going backwards not forwards. Playing well for 30 minutes isnt good enough and questions the fitness of the players
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: mattboyslim on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:22:38 I think from what Sturrock has said he believes Weston Pook and Timlin are all 'attacking' midfielders, but Timlin is the only on with the qualities to play in the more defensive role so he makes him play there due to Evans being missing. Pook is meant to be the attacking one, and did burst forward occasionally, however he has a distinct lack in quality IMHO and looks mediocre at best. Missing Evans massively - he has 4 goals this season, Brown, Shakes, Pook, Zaboub, Weston and Timlin have about 7 between them!
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Bogus Dave on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:24:08 I dont think the players fitness was at fault for our second half performance on saturday. I just think we got complacent and thought we'd be able to coast the match. As it turned out, darlington must of had a rocket at half time, and obviously wanted the game more.
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:34:25 Letting CCP go struck me at the time as a very strange decision and it still does.
I hate to say it, but for the first and only time this season, I am actually slightly concerned that we will not make automatic promotion. I would not fancy us in the play offs if that happened. Basically, I'm agreeing with you Fatboy :shock: Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 19, 2007, 11:40:01 Quote from: "fatbury" Not trying to be negative just realistic... but we should be coasting through this division ... Statements like that don't do much for your credibility....Darlo are a much bigger club than us.....you might not like to admit it but nevertheless its true. A number of other clubs in or around us have invested in new players...whereas Luggy has no doubt been asked to reduce the wage bill, and so has done it the best way he's been able. We are where we are on merit.....in fact we may be currently overachieving. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: STFC Bart on Monday, February 19, 2007, 12:09:06 Overachieving 4th in the basement division- get real
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 19, 2007, 12:43:41 although maybe under the current regime we are ... seeing as they arent doing anything for the club at all - if you get my drift
maybe if we had better people running the club that would help :wink: Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 19, 2007, 12:53:21 Quote from: "fatbury" although maybe under the current regime we are ... seeing as they arent doing anything for the club at all - if you get my drift maybe if we had better people running the club that would help :wink: Of course....if this Board are allowed to remain in place, then the full desperation of the situation will be revealed.....cost cutting all round, gates down to sub 4000 and possible flirtation with the Coinference. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Arriba on Monday, February 19, 2007, 13:54:12 ccp was not up to it.agree cover would come in handy but vincent did alright on saturday.
i think weston might get a start tomorrow but the two in the middle aint done badly overall. as for up front,of course a new striker would be nice but lets be honest we were damn unlucky not to win on saturday. there aint much wrong with the side imo Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Monday, February 19, 2007, 14:06:08 arriba .. are u Sturrock or a board member? amounts to pretty much the same thing anyway :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: Re: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of Post by: Spud on Monday, February 19, 2007, 14:24:51 Quote from: "fatbury" With Ady Williams expected to be out for an "unspecified time" it raises the questions as to why we let Charlie Comyn Platt go - im sure CCP would have fitted into centre back much more effectively than Jamie Vincent did - he was way too short for the role and it showed Did it? i thought he had a good game on Saturday bar the goal where nobody closed down Smith. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: sonic youth on Monday, February 19, 2007, 14:26:30 I couldn't understand why Vincent was at centre-back and Nicho was at left-back when our previous manager was adamant that Nicho could play there comfortably. In fact I still don't understand it, Nicho did well at centre-back when he played there at the start of the season.
The mind boggles. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Piemonte on Monday, February 19, 2007, 14:27:47 Quote from: "arriba" ccp was not up to it.agree cover would come in handy but vincent did alright on saturday. i think weston might get a start tomorrow but the two in the middle aint done badly overall. as for up front,of course a new striker would be nice but lets be honest we were damn unlucky not to win on saturday. there aint much wrong with the side imo I agree with Arriba. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, February 19, 2007, 14:54:34 Quote from: "Piemonte" Quote from: "arriba" ccp was not up to it.agree cover would come in handy but vincent did alright on saturday. i think weston might get a start tomorrow but the two in the middle aint done badly overall. as for up front,of course a new striker would be nice but lets be honest we were damn unlucky not to win on saturday. there aint much wrong with the side imo I agree with Arriba. So you're saying that we're absolutely definitely going to go up then. That will do for me! :cheers: :clap: :beers: Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Piemonte on Monday, February 19, 2007, 15:23:11 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Quote from: "Piemonte" Quote from: "arriba" ccp was not up to it.agree cover would come in handy but vincent did alright on saturday. i think weston might get a start tomorrow but the two in the middle aint done badly overall. as for up front,of course a new striker would be nice but lets be honest we were damn unlucky not to win on saturday. there aint much wrong with the side imo I agree with Arriba. So you're saying that we're absolutely definitely going to go up then. That will do for me! :cheers: :clap: :beers: I never said dem tings :shake: Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, February 19, 2007, 15:50:00 Quote from: "Piemonte" Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Quote from: "Piemonte" Quote from: "arriba" ccp was not up to it.agree cover would come in handy but vincent did alright on saturday. i think weston might get a start tomorrow but the two in the middle aint done badly overall. as for up front,of course a new striker would be nice but lets be honest we were damn unlucky not to win on saturday. there aint much wrong with the side imo I agree with Arriba. So you're saying that we're absolutely definitely going to go up then. That will do for me! :cheers: :clap: :beers: I never said dem tings :shake: La la la la la la la! I can't hear you! We're definitely going up 8) Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: red macca on Monday, February 19, 2007, 16:13:47 I think he played vicent at cb because he does fuck all on the wing.sturrock likes crosses in the box and vincent does not offer us this imo
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: juddie on Monday, February 19, 2007, 16:22:47 I think we're doing darlo an injustice... they're not a bad side and we created chances - if we were playing shit and nort creating anything I'd be more worried.
As for CCP - if wisey and sturrock can't see anything in him then I trust their judgement - agreed we're shy on numbers but nicho can do that job and if we were to lose vincent, then smith can move across and patrick 'awooga' akabussi can come in. We win tomorrow and saturday then we're back in the hunt for top spot - as long as we're in the mix we'll be ok... Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Monday, February 19, 2007, 17:19:46 no plan b.
If it doesnt work, we change it all about and it still doesnt work at all. The lack of cover for Adie Williams is worryingly....but I'm also still worried about the lack of cover for Paul Evans, which showed on Saturday. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Tails on Monday, February 19, 2007, 18:01:45 Quote from: "DV85" no plan b. If it doesnt work, we change it all about and it still doesnt work at all. The lack of cover for Adie Williams is worryingly....but I'm also still worried about the lack of cover for Paul Evans, which showed on Saturday. Forgotten the 7 game unbeaten run in which Paul Evans featured a grand total of 0 times? Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Monday, February 19, 2007, 18:09:34 Quote from: "Tails" Quote from: "DV85" no plan b. If it doesnt work, we change it all about and it still doesnt work at all. The lack of cover for Adie Williams is worryingly....but I'm also still worried about the lack of cover for Paul Evans, which showed on Saturday. Forgotten the 7 game unbeaten run in which Paul Evans featured a grand total of 0 times? ....or we could mention our best run of form this season. Which was 6 straight wins in which Evans played all the games. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Tails on Monday, February 19, 2007, 18:17:41 True, but I don't think we miss him that much.
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Monday, February 19, 2007, 18:20:25 some games we do, some we dont
Timlin has generally been good since he came here, but the last 2 games he's been awful. Evans is the only central midfielder we've got with more than 2 seasons of pro football. We missed him Saturday and we're a much stronger team with him in, than without. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, February 19, 2007, 18:37:00 Quote from: "DV85" some games we do, some we dont Timlin has generally been good since he came here, but the last 2 games he's been awful. Evans is the only central midfielder we've got with more than 2 seasons of pro football. We missed him Saturday and we're a much stronger team with him in, than without. In the last 7 league games with Evo in the side we won....at Torquay. I don't expect Evo to play any great part in the rest of the season. We miss Monkhouse if anyone.... Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 08:43:03 Wonder if a centre back will be signed now? Why did Sturrock get rid of CCP?
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Foggy on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 11:52:01 Because he loves the board according to you
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 12:52:15 well could be that he needs to save them some money?
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 12:54:12 Quote from: "fatbury" Wonder if a centre back will be signed now? Why did Sturrock get rid of CCP? cost saving Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 13:03:27 CCP wasnt very good anyway. Commited, but lacking in ability.
If we get a good quality centre back in on loan it will look like shrewd business from Sturrock. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 13:12:50 might need more than one ... Ifil is just one booking away from a 2 match ban
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 13:13:29 Scott Doe and Tom Evans it is then.
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 13:25:04 I reckon Luggy might start Shakes up front and that French bloke on the right.
Fatbury's source says I'm right so it has to be true Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 13:25:42 he'll drop peacs in at CB.
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: fatbury on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 13:30:33 if Peacs wasnt out with a back injury himself ..
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: DV on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 17:05:29 Quote from: "fatbury" if Peacs wasnt out with a back injury himself .. my post is clearly future tense....HE WILL drop Peacock into CB....not he would, he might or he would have Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 18:39:51 "He might" is future tense you mong :D
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, February 21, 2007, 23:05:36 Sturrock said tonight Peacock will finish his career at CB :D
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Sharky on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 11:17:05 Isn't 'The Boob' now banned for one match too???
I seem to remember him thinking he was banned before and turned out he only had 4 yellows....but he got booked against Barnet did he not? so that makes 5 and a one match absence? Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 11:27:34 Yep.
One match ban after Chester. Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: pumbaa on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 14:32:39 Quote from: "herthab" Yep. One match ban after Chester. I thought suspensions kicked in immediately? Or is that for reds cards only? Can I get another question in this post...? Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: herthab on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 14:42:08 No, yes and no.
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Arriba on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 14:44:17 i hope zaboob starts on saturday as brown will get stick, and that wont help the team.we need 3 points!
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 16:25:25 Abusing your own supporters isn't conducive to gaining three points either.
Title: Lack of centre back cover - lack of firepower - lack of idea Post by: Arriba on Thursday, February 22, 2007, 16:26:30 Quote from: "sonic youth" Abusing your own supporters isn't conducive to gaining three points either. completely agree.but lets move on |