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Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:43:16
Evans 5 - Looked at fault for Elliot's early goal to me. Seemed to think it was going wide

Jenkins 5 - looked a bit shaky at times - seemed to be at fault for thier 2nd

Duke - 4 Given a hard time by Elliot, which is to be expected as he's probably the best right winger in the league. His passing was still shit though, regardless of the oposition.

Heywood-5 Muscled off the ball countless tmes by fletcher. needs to toughen up a bit

O'Hanlon-5 cant think of that much he did wrong, but wasnt at his best

Hewlett -3 Diabolical performance. gave the ball away constantly, caught in possesion several times, dont remember him making a tackle. He's the gayest defensive midfielder i've ever seen. deserves to br dropped after that.

Smith - 7 put himself around well and got into goalscoring areas. Unlucky not to score, but really should have buried that free header after 3/4 mins. I can officially state now that I was wrong. He's not shit.

Igoe - 5.5 did alright-ish without ever threatening to create much. one decent shot in the first half

Holmes 5 - Anonymous really. When given time, space and decent service he can rip teams apart. He had none of those things today and as a consequence did very little.

Parkin 7 - usual performance from SSP, holds it up well and has a great first touch for a big bloke. Cant remember him having a sniff of goal though

Proctor 6.5 - Did quite well outside the box and never stopped battling. maybe should have scored ehrn he dinked it over the keeper?

Subs

Book 6 - not a fault for either goal
Slabber 4 - He's crap isnt he? The keeper did save his point blank effort, but he should have scored anyway
Migz 6 - some decent touches when he came on but it was all too late by then really


Bournemouth looked a good, confident side to me and the front 3 of Fletcher, Elliot and hayter has to be one of the best in the league.

Thier defence didnt look all that great to me, and given a better town performance we could have put a few past them.

We struggled to create chances until we were 2-0 down, and generally didnt look good enough.

All in all, I'm very pissed off tonight


Title: Re: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Haribinho on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:46:15
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Heywood-5 Muscled off the ball countless tmes by fletcher. needs to toughen up a bit


Hmm I must have been at another game. Second best player on the field for Swindon today.

Parkin MOTM for no reward..yet again. Hewlett shouldnt have been on the pitch. When is King going to learn hes no good?

FFS.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:51:03
How can you say heywood was better than smith today?  :?

Like you say, i think we we at different games


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Haribinho on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:52:06
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
How can you say heywood was better than smith today?  :?

Like you say, i think we we at different games


How can you say Fletcher muscled Heywood off the ball when Heywood won everything?  :?

 :P


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: STFC_Chris on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:52:30
Jenks was awful and I agree totally about Hewlett. Was impressed with Book's kicking and he wasnt at fault for either goal. Stef was brilliant when he came on, won the ball, kept it on the ground and made som edecent passes. If he doesnt start against Luton, I will cry.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:56:36
Quote from: "Haribinho"
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
How can you say heywood was better than smith today?  :?

Like you say, i think we we at different games


How can you say Fletcher muscled Heywood off the ball when Heywood won everything?  :?

 :P


Because Hywood didn't win everything :wink:


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Haribinho on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:58:15
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
Quote from: "Haribinho"
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
How can you say heywood was better than smith today?  :?

Like you say, i think we we at different games


How can you say Fletcher muscled Heywood off the ball when Heywood won everything?  :?

 :P


Because Hywood dint win everything :wink:


Didnt know we had a player call Hywood?  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Haribinho on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:59:06
Well keeping to the point. We played shit today and need a biig performance against Luton next week.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 17:59:27
my rage is affecting my typing :D


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:00:54
Evans 5 - Did nothing but watch a ball hit the back of the net. No chance of a save

Jenkins 4 - Gave ball away far too often and may have broken a Bornmuff players leg (thats what it looked like)

Heywood 5 - Average but mad rash decisions and gave ball away too much

O'Hanlon 6 - Got forward a few times and made some great tackles but not totally convincing

Duke 4 - Nightmare. Kept giving the ball away and nearly gave away a second goal right after gifting them the first

Igoe 5 - Some poor patches but did look intersted and looked for space

Hewlett 3 - Not his day. Usually isn't. today was aweful.

Smith 6 - Unlucky not to score on several occasions but still not great.

Holmes 5 - Was he actually on the pitch?!

Parkin 6 - Energetic and interested but nothing came his way in terms of a goal

Proctor 6 - Also lively but not enough creativity

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Book 5 - No great saves. A couple of good clearances and picked the ball out the net twice!

Migs 6 - Looked lively and was composed on the ball which is more than you can say for most

Slabber 5 - Looked lively but didn't really do much other than chase the ball


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:00:59
Quote from: "Haribinho"
Well keeping to the point. We played shit today and need a biig performance against Luton next week.


I think thats something we can agree on.

Its going to need the perfomance of the season though, especially as they put 5 past city today


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:01:52
Maybe they will be over confident next week?! Thats optimism!


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: strooood on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:02:11
jenkins was utterly shight today. miglioranzi is different gwavy


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Haribinho on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:06:03
Quote from: "decks-e-tow"
jenkins was utterly shight today. miglioranzi is different gwavy


True. And, King says on the radio "Thats the sharpest Ive seen Miglioranzi in weeks" I actaully shouted at the radio "Well play him instead of Hewlett ffs"   :oops:  :soapy tit wank:


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:09:00
I really cant see us getting in the play offs now. :cry:

1 Luton 36 30 75
2 Hull 35 23 69
3 Tranmere 35 14 62
4 Sheff Wed 35 20 59
5 Hartlepool 34 10 58
6 Bournemouth 35 18 57
7 Brentford 33 -3 54
8 Swindon 36 5 53
9 Bristol City 36 11 52
10 Bradford 36 -1 52
11 Doncaster 35 3 51
12 Barnsley 36 6 47
13 Chesterfield 36 -5 47
14 Huddersfield 36 -3 45
15 Walsall 36 -10 44
16 Blackpool 34 -2 42
17 Port Vale 35 -13 41
18 Colchester 35 4 40
19 Oldham 35 -11 39
20 Franchise 36 -15 38
21 Torquay 36 -19 37
22 Wrexham 36 -17 33
23 Peterborough 35 -11 30
24 Stockport 36 -34


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:15:35
It's every one having games in hand which is the problem. Can't be bothered to look at how many points you've needed in previous seasons. but about 74 sounds right which would be 7wins.  Unlikely but another run of 4 or 5 and it's possible.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:24:02
Here are my brief ratings. I'm so...bleh...about all this :/

Evans n/a - Not sure what he was doing about their first goal, but it did look as if it was going miles wide from where I was sitting.
(Book) 6 - Didn't have much to do and can't be blamed for either goal, but his kicking puts Rhys' to shame. I'd leave him in goal for next week even if Rhys is fit to be honest.

Jenkins 3 - Utterly dire. I don't think I saw him in position for most of the game, made some basic mistakes and shouldn't he have been on the far post for the third goal? He crocked Sammy's best mate as well.

Heywood 6 - Did nowt wrong, didn't do a great deal right either. Worked hard and didn't let anyone down.

O'Hanlon 6 - Same as above really.

Duke 5 - For the first goal, there's no doubt he gave Elliott far too much space and continued to do so for awhile but later on in the game he offered a fair bit going forward and worked hard. Certainly not the worst player on the pitch.

Igoe 5 - Utterly ineffective apart from a couple of decent passes late on in the game.

Hewlett 1 - Did he play?

Smith 7 - I was impressed with him today, his workrate was high and was unlucky not to score at the end. He lacks ball control at times though but he gave it all he had today, which is more than many did.

Holmes 6 - Tried his best but had no service whatsoever. Ignored when in huge amounts of space and given the ball when he had nowhere to go. I've heard people moaning at him and I think it's fucking absurd, the lad is 17 ffs!

Parkin 8 - I'm going to make a post about this later. I love him.

Proctor 6 - Showed some good touches but not fit enough, doubt he'll reach full fitness before the end of his loan either unfortunately.

subs:

Miglioranzi 7 - Took him a few minutes to get into the game but looked lively, created chances, battled hard and even flew into tackles. Needs to start alongside Smith next week in place of Hewlett.

Fallon, oh sorry Slabber... bollocks to it.



I'm not even angry.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: DMR on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:27:21
Rhys- did he leave the first one? Looked like it- 5

Book- Should play against Luton IMO, did nowt wrong and kicks and catches well- 6

Jenkins- awful, gave the ball away, at fault for goal 2, hardly got forward- 2

Heywood- probably our best player, looked solid and reliable and tried to organise his troops- 6

O'Hanlon- positionally very poor, but made some decent tackles. Went AWOL on goals 2 and 3, he wasn't even in the pen area ffs- 4

Duke- better second half compensated for awful first 45m, where was he for goal 1? Failed to clear his lines- 4

Igoe- Doesn't hold his position, doesn't run forward, doesn't want to play for Swindon Town- 3

Hewlett- shocker, made lots of bad passes and badly timed tackles, put his back 4 under pressure- 3

Smith- missed 2 glorious chances and too often looked to shoot. Played badly in patches, worked hard- 6

Holmes- he can't win you games if he doesn't have that little white round thing- 4

Parkin- not his usual self in terms of work, but some nice touches- 6

Proctor- lively, and they BM back 4 were frightened off him running at them- 6

SUBS
Migs- must start at Loo-town, easily our best midfielder and his class showed- 7

Slabber- is crap. Rory Fallon, Rory Fallon- 3


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:28:26
I think you summed Holmes up perfectly there Dave. It's useless having an out and out winger if nobody can be arsed to give him the ball!


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: DMR on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:30:04
The irony is he's the only player we look to pass it to. Says alot about our passing!


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:31:24
We pass the ball????? I thought we just twatted it wherever we could so long as it was away from the penalty area.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: DMR on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 18:32:38
Quote from: "sonicyouth"
We pass the ball????? I thought we just twatted it wherever we could so long as it was away from the penalty area.


Of course not! Our full backs dilly dally more than Brian Howard at a World Pie Convention.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: walrus on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 19:00:04
Negatives:
-   We could miss Rhys is he’s out for any length of time
-   A lot of people will give up on the playoffs now
-   Too many sarcastic comments in the Nationwide
-   We can’t defend
-   King plays the wrong players – Ifil, Nicholas, Howard should all be in the team
-   Slabber swap for Fallon – what were we thinking?  Fallon’s pretty dire, but Slabber is woeful, missed an open goal when it was harder to miss
-   Parkin is getting royally fucked off with us as we’re continually shit when it matters
-   Jenkins’ is beginning to play crap, like Duke, but with less pace and crossing ability
-   I’ve got tickets for the Franchise and Luton games

Positives:
-   Steve Book can kick a ball
-   Miglioranzi looks good – deserves a start soon
-   Smith is still playing very well, although the goals aren’t coming at the moment
-       At least I didn't travel from Zurich!



In summary, play Migs, Nicholas, Howard and Ifil next week and I'll reckon we're in with a chance.  Play Hewlett, Duke, Holmes and Heywood/Jenkins then I think we'll get mullered.

I now remember why my last home game was Colchester, and why I haven't bothered since.  Maybe I'm a jinx?  I also saw the 3-0 home defeat against Wycombe a couple of seasons ago.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: ron dodgers on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 22:04:00
sorry guys - first time I've ever left b4 the end of the game - couldn't  stand it - I'lll be back though
love
Sad Ron


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: reeves4england on Saturday, March 5, 2005, 22:13:13
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Parkin- not his usual self in terms of work, but some nice touches- 6


I think that's harsh

Parkin worked his bollocks off but didn't get the ball when he was in a good position. Always chasing and never stopped working (see Sonic Youth's Sam Parkin post!)


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: walrus on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 00:32:06
Quote from: "reeves4england"
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Parkin- not his usual self in terms of work, but some nice touches- 6


I think that's harsh

Parkin worked his bollocks off but didn't get the ball when he was in a good position. Always chasing and never stopped working (see Sonic Youth's Sam Parkin post!)


IOn fairnbess, his hair is fucking awful.  Its an embarrass,emnt and needs Toni and Guy's to sort it out.

I say bring back Gr\zioli, he had a quality hairdude.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 00:49:08
Toni & Gay's is a shit place to get your hair done. you pay over the odds for some average 'hairdresser' who thinks they are the bogs dollocks at cutting hair, to create a style they want to do, regardless of what you ask for


Title: Re: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: BigStan on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 13:33:21
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
Heywood-5 Muscled off the ball countless times by Fletcher. needs to toughen up a bit


That'll be the same Fletcher that spent all of the second half signalling to his goalkeeper NOT to kick the ball towards him because Heywood had beaten him into submission.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Boeta on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 14:26:11
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Toni & Gay's is a shit place to get your hair done. you pay over the odds for some average 'hairdresser' who thinks they are the bogs dollocks at cutting hair, to create a style they want to do, regardless of what you ask for

When I finally have my hair cut I reckon I'll just get my mum to do it.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: DMR on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 15:27:15
I'm knocking Jenkins down to minus 10.

Cynical and deliberate as well as dangerous and he's broken Cummings leg. Badly apparantly.

Out of character for him. Very disappointing.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 16:57:46
I couldnt really care less if he's broken Cummins leg


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Whits on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 17:17:41
Quote from: "Piemonte2"
I couldnt really care less if he's broken Cummins leg


he has, in two places i believe


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: Piemonte on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 17:51:59
I meant I'm really not fussed about Jenkins breaking someones leg, or any of our players doing it to be honest

I've seen plenty of worse tackles than that, Dave's just trying to be a knob and getting on some kind of moral high horse about it.


Title: Reaction / Ratings v Bournemuff
Post by: walrus on Sunday, March 6, 2005, 17:55:06
Wade Elliot injured Evans yesterday and virtually ended Keith O'Halloran's career, so Bournemouth are still more in the wrong, though 2 wrongs don't make a right!

I feel for Cummins, but I didn't see Jenkins challenge as particularly cynical.