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Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: News Monkey on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 15:44:33
KYLE Lapham insists Swindon Town release their young talent “too easily” but admits the League Two outfit's loss is very much to Swindon Supermarine's gain....

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Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 20:56:54
Not if they are shit no.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:09:36
Kyle's right, we should have kept him and released Jack Smith  :-))(


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:31:21
Lapham doesn't sound too bitter does he  :wink: If he's so good he would have found a League/Conference team.

But, alas, the football scrapheap is not easy to get out of!


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:43:13
To be honest Lapham looked alright when he played Under Kingy a couple seasons back, but hey. Atleast his buddy Matty Bulman is playing in the Conference South (Salisbury City)


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:49:04
Bullman served me in jjb erlier today :)


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:50:38
I don't think the youths get given enough of a chance. Rather than an endless stream of loan players to fill gaps, I'd prefer to see our youth players involved instead of a Premiership youngster.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:51:51
I think he has a point sadly the main reason lots of these lads are released is because they simply aren't considered big enough.

The current Youth lads seem to be doing well inspite of the fact that they have a different Gaffer every week it rankles a bit with me when they call it David Byrnes side though obviously it is now his side.Any sucsess these lads gets is first and foremost down to  themselves,a Scouting policy introduced by Kingy to get "big old units" and a bit from each of a long long list of managers they have had over the last few years.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: DV on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 21:54:55
should have kept Lapham.

He could have done a job as back up right back to Jack Smith, and as a really make shift centre half.

I know I only saw him the once! but I thought he played well and took to pro football like a duck to water.

Just my opinion like....

We seem to give youth one or two games but not a run in the team...Garrard, Lapham, Stroud, Henry, Caton, Holgate, Taylor etc!


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:00:41
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Rather than an endless stream of loan players to fill gaps, I'd prefer to see our youth players involved instead of a Premiership youngster.


Obviously this'll happen under Sturrock as he has already shown more interest in the Youths as anyone has in a good while.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:04:32
Not sure Rich, he's released Henry and Stroud and sent Holgate out to Macclesfield.

Personally I thought Stroud would have been perfectly capable at this level, the number of left-wingers we had only hindered him - shame he didn't come through a little earlier.

I'd like to see more of Wells really, he's looked decent enough when I've seen him in the yoofs/reserves/friendlies.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:08:50
Quote from: "sonic youth"
Not sure Rich, he's released Henry and Stroud and sent Holgate out to Macclesfield.

Personally I thought Stroud would have been perfectly capable at this level, the number of left-wingers we had only hindered him - shame he didn't come through a little earlier.

I'd like to see more of Wells really, he's looked decent enough when I've seen him in the yoofs/reserves/friendlies.


I think he's aiming concentrate and the Cup run kids and educate them the way he wants too. Perhaps, he felt it was too late for the likes Henry and Stroud. I am only speculating here.

Holgate isn't finished yet (?) and Wells has been kept for a good reason I'm sure.

It's a case of having to wait and see but he put alot of faith in his youths at Sheffield Wednesday.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:11:34
Quote from: "DV85"
should have kept Lapham.

He could have done a job as back up right back to Jack Smith, and as a really make shift centre half.

I know I only saw him the once! but I thought he played well and took to pro football like a duck to water.

Just my opinion like....

We seem to give youth one or two games but not a run in the team...Garrard, Lapham, Stroud, Henry, Caton, Holgate, Taylor etc!


IIRC, Garrard had quite a run in the first team during the 04/05 season.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: DV on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:14:03
yeah...dont know why I put him in there. He was shit


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:16:51
Didn't he used to blow chunks at half time during every game. And he actually threw up on the pitch at Sheffield Wednesday.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: DV on Tuesday, February 6, 2007, 22:18:54
before the game.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 09:32:14
Quote from: "DV85"
should have kept Lapham.

He could have done a job as back up right back to Jack Smith, and as a really make shift centre half.

I know I only saw him the once! but I thought he played well and took to pro football like a duck to water.

Just my opinion like....

We seem to give youth one or two games but not a run in the team...Garrard, Lapham, Stroud, Henry, Caton, Holgate, Taylor etc!


None of those got/get a run in the team as they would have significantly weakened the aformentioned team.  

Are you seriously telling me you would have just dumped Henry at centre back for 5 games if Williams got injured?  Decisions like that can cost managers their jobs; especially at clubs that are expected to be promoted

I'd love to see more local lads coming through the ranks, sadly most of them are at best medicore and as a consequence end up playing local non league football.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: DV on Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 11:08:40
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "DV85"
should have kept Lapham.

He could have done a job as back up right back to Jack Smith, and as a really make shift centre half.

I know I only saw him the once! but I thought he played well and took to pro football like a duck to water.

Just my opinion like....

We seem to give youth one or two games but not a run in the team...Garrard, Lapham, Stroud, Henry, Caton, Holgate, Taylor etc!


None of those got/get a run in the team as they would have significantly weakened the aformentioned team.  

Are you seriously telling me you would have just dumped Henry at centre back for 5 games if Williams got injured?  Decisions like that can cost managers their jobs; especially at clubs that are expected to be promoted

I'd love to see more local lads coming through the ranks, sadly most of them are at best medicore and as a consequence end up playing local non league football.


Could have dumped Henry in a centre back for few games towards the end of last season when we were all ready fucked and relegated?

I guess because we dont do cup runs, it doesnt help but you can never be so sure how someone will cope untill you try them.

For all we know Henry could have come in and been excellent. The only time I saw him play alongside CCP he was by far the better of the two on the night.

David Stroud good example, Iffy start him and everyone was a bit shocked, many didnt know who he was and he was bloody awesome that game. Has to be in the top 3 of Town debuts within recent years. Got injured next game and never got a chance.

That one game may have been a one off fluke, but in that game alone he showed me enough that he could have been a decent player at this level.

Plus, I'm not 100% convinced starting Stroud, Henry, Lapham, Holgate and Caton would have made last seasons team any worse!!!


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Arriba on Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 11:22:49
tricky one this,i'm sure lapham feals agreived that he didn't make the grade along with the others mentioned.and maybe they didn't get the chances they hoped they deserved.but surely if they were good enough they would have got a chance?pook has,holgate has,juckie has,caton has,so i'm guessing they weren't good enough or they would have got more of a chance to shine.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: Piemonte on Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 13:15:10
The bottom line is that none of those that have been released are even playing conference standard football now. This is because they are not very good.


Title: News_Headlines | Lapham: 'Youth do not get a chance at Swin
Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 16:14:00
Caton was breaking into the team then got injured. Can't really complain about that one. I expect he will be back around the team when he's fit again.

I think the person who did most for our youths was Iffy as he gave them a decent chance. Holgate, Lukas, Caton, Stroud all got games under him I think and he knew them well. Wise started off alright and then buggered off to Leeds so can't really judge him