Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Bushey Boy on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:09:51 simple, which one do you rate more.......and why. For me its parkin, he was immense, dont get me wrong Fjortoft was a great player however I never felt it meant as much to him as it did parkin.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: red macca on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:13:23 Fjortoft by a mile for me.
Parkin would never even score a international goal and play in world cups neither will ever score 1 goal in the premier league. Not having a dig at parkin just being realistic Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: sonic youth on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:17:04 Parkin for me, although I never saw Fjortoft.
Sammy was the highlight of some otherwise drab seasons and without him we'd have been bored to death. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:17:44 Fjortoft: was of International class and showed it - on his day he was sublime, when I played junior football I did the aeroplane in his honour when I scored! The sad thing is both of his seasons at Swindon resulted in relegation.
Parkin: I will always looks back at Parkin's career at Town fondly though. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: cavpete on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:25:20 Its hard to compare as they were both legends in there era at swindon.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: herthab on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:32:11 Quote from: "cavpete" Its hard to compare as they were both legends in there era at swindon. It's not hard to compare! Fjortoft played for us in the premier league, was successful and got a move to another premier league club. Super Sammy played for us in the third tier. Much as I loved Parkin, you've got to say that Fjortoft was the better player. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: quinnismyhero on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:37:00 Fjortoft without a doubt
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:42:20 No contest, Fjortoft by many miles, he also did it at the highest level (premiership and international level)
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: cavpete on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:46:57 Quote from: "herthab" Quote from: "cavpete" Its hard to compare as they were both legends in there era at swindon. It's not hard to compare! Fjortoft played for us in the premier league, was successful and got a move to another premier league club. Super Sammy played for us in the third tier. Much as I loved Parkin, you've got to say that Fjortoft was the better player. i agree fjortoft by miles but most of the youngsters only have seen parkin play and so think he is a legend. I have seen both play and think jan the man is the legend FACT. Now be quiet doorknob. You have put me off my stroke :soapy tit wank: :D Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: reeves4england on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:47:56 Fjortoft, the fact that I never saw him play and know all about him says it all
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: herthab on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:50:48 Cavpete.
WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT IN THE FUCKING FIRST PLACE! Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: cavpete on Monday, January 22, 2007, 16:56:54 Quote from: "herthab" Cavpete. WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST SAY THAT IN THE FUCKING FIRST PLACE! Because after reading all the posts. It seems to wind you up so i did it soapy tit wank only joking love you really Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, January 22, 2007, 17:10:08 Neither - The correct answer is Duncan Shearer 8)
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: herthab on Monday, January 22, 2007, 17:13:48 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" Neither - The correct answer is Duncan Shearer 8) Shearer was class, agreed. Shame we never got to see him in the top flight after the stitch up. Which year was it when he scored 27? Quality finisher. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: STFC_Gazza on Monday, January 22, 2007, 17:15:17 Fjortoft by a country mile, Parkin was good in League One and has not proven himself any higher (admittedly he has been injured) where as Fjortoft proved himself at the highest level. It looks with the way Luton is going Parkin may once again be playing in League 1 next season.... shame its with Luton and not us though!
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: mattboyslim on Monday, January 22, 2007, 17:25:08 Parkin was a legend in a low level team, achieving more and immediately became a hero in his time here. For almost half of JAFs time he was seen as a flop, but once he started doing it he offered a quality that had scarceky been seen at the CG ever. A goal machine but a chracter too, unlike some of our 'greats' who were past there best (Hoddle), JAF was immense, and single handedly nearly got us to a league cup final. Bearing in mind how destitute the team he played in was, and that his main strike partners were Keith Scott and Andy Mutch, that shows the quality.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Miles Mayhem on Monday, January 22, 2007, 18:46:56 Jan aage, jan aage wooow what a player i also copyed the areoplane at youth team footy. Class.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: land_of_bo on Monday, January 22, 2007, 18:50:33 Jan the man was something special. Parkin, although quality, wasn't fit to clean his boots!
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: mastapeaka on Monday, January 22, 2007, 19:13:45 I am going to resurrect that plane celebration if I score this weekend. Just after I've hopped off the bitch
Title: Re: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, January 22, 2007, 19:49:30 Quote from: "Bushey Boy" simple, which one do you rate more.......and why. For me its parkin, he was immense, dont get me wrong Fjortoft was a great player however I never felt it meant as much to him as it did parkin. Someone as old as you really ought to know better! Thats not to say Parkin isnt also a hero though. He also left the club in an improved state to when he arrived (of which Sam had a massive contribution to) and you couldnt say the same about Fjortoft. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, January 22, 2007, 19:52:42 I think Parkin was the more significant striker in terms of STFC history than Fjortoft. For one his transfer fee kept us going...
I think Jan Aage had the ability to excite me as a fan more though, and his celebration was ace. So it has to be Fjortoft for me. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: DV on Monday, January 22, 2007, 19:55:13 Parkin was more of a legend, because he stuck around....scored more goals, was here longer....and he clearly loved it and made the best debut ever...
Fjortoft wasnt even here 2 season. A better player than Parkin, of course....fond memories, damn straight.... Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: yeo on Monday, January 22, 2007, 19:56:16 I hate them both tbh.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Piemonte on Monday, January 22, 2007, 20:46:56 So many people over-rate Parkin. He was very good at a mediocre league 1 side, no doubt - but he's not even proven at championship level FFS. That said I hope he makes it
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: RobertT on Monday, January 22, 2007, 21:05:54 Fjortoft was easily the better of those 2, by a whole country road map.
Shearer, as mentioned, was probably the best of my era though on the basis of his consistency and ability combined. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Arriba on Monday, January 22, 2007, 21:08:17 Quote from: "RobertT" Fjortoft was easily the better of those 2, by a whole country road map. Shearer, as mentioned, was probably the best of my era though on the basis of his consistency and ability combined. completely agree. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: mattboyslim on Monday, January 22, 2007, 21:14:32 Shearer was my original hero, and I'd have loved tp have seen him in teh old top flight if 1990 debacle had never happened, the ultimate goal getter, he'd score fom all angles and had a knack of doing nowt but score the winner. A great record for us, more in the Parkin mould as a player only much better, he perhaps lacked the audacious flare jan had though.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Spencer_White on Monday, January 22, 2007, 21:29:49 Quote from: "RobertT" Fjortoft was easily the better of those 2, by a whole country road map. Shearer, as mentioned, was probably the best of my era though on the basis of his consistency and ability combined. If not workrate. :D My ultimate front 2 would be Fjortoft - Shearer. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Bushey Boy on Monday, January 22, 2007, 21:38:23 all different opinions spencer, to me parkin was part of a promotion push (one of the seasons that really made me get this club in my blood), fjortoft was always ina relegation battle. Fjortoft scored some cracking goals though....also fjortoft was when I was 12 and its rather vague now
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: RobertT on Monday, January 22, 2007, 22:04:39 Quote from: "Spencer_White" Quote from: "RobertT" Fjortoft was easily the better of those 2, by a whole country road map. Shearer, as mentioned, was probably the best of my era though on the basis of his consistency and ability combined. If not workrate. :D My ultimate front 2 would be Fjortoft - Shearer. oooooh, I think I've just creamed my pants. Parkin can be on the bench if he likes. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: mattboyslim on Monday, January 22, 2007, 22:09:02 In my town watching are those two up top with Nicky Summerbee hammering crosses in!!!
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Batch on Monday, January 22, 2007, 23:12:08 Jan the man. Because he was etter than Parkin. Fact.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Forza_Swindon on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 10:05:19 Quote from: "DV85" Parkin was more of a legend, because he stuck around....scored more goals, was here longer....and he clearly loved it and made the best debut ever... Fjortoft wasnt even here 2 season. A better player than Parkin, of course....fond memories, damn straight.... Let's not forget, Fjortoft had NO SAY in being sold...I think he would have stayed at least for the remainder of that season because he did love it here. Perhaps if we still had been relegated he would have had to leave for the good of his career, but I don't think you can lay the blame on him for leaving as it was a management decision (and what a bad one!). Fjortfot is the bigger legend IMO but I still have enormous respect for Sammy P. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: redbullzeye on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 10:23:00 Fjortoft gets my vote although I remember him taking about 20 odd games before he started scoring. Also he really pissed Graham Taylor off by diving all over the place in the Norway vs England world cup qualifier - leading to some classic quotes on that video!
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: BB12 on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 10:36:01 The question was - which one is more of a legend ?
I think the word 'legend' is over used, neither were a 'legend' in the true sense. Fjortoft was lightyears better than Parkin. In terms of footballing skill and ability, it would be like comparing John Terry to his brother Paul at Yeovil. Yes they were that far apart. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: JOHNNY REEVES on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 12:19:58 sammy was a good player in the third tier but how many prem goals
has he scored and how many caps . :soapy tit wank: Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Boeta on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 14:08:33 fjortoft was the better player by such a distance it's not funny. whether that makes him more of a legend or not i'm not sure but it's good enough for me
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 18:18:50 Quote from: "Forza_Swindon" Let's not forget, Fjortoft had NO SAY in being sold...I think he would have stayed at least for the remainder of that season because he did love it here. Perhaps if we still had been relegated he would have had to leave for the good of his career, but I don't think you can lay the blame on him for leaving as it was a management decision (and what a bad one!). Fjortfot is the bigger legend IMO but I still have enormous respect for Sammy P. I dont know. I dont think he was enjoying his football under McMahon. Macca was a total knob to him. I think he was glad to go. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: janaage on Tuesday, January 23, 2007, 19:03:59 Exactly Spence, McMahon practically forced the great man out of the club.
Fjortoft was and remains my No1 STFC favourist ever player, ever, ever. Amen. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: el duque on Friday, January 26, 2007, 14:47:37 Quote from: "BB12" The question was - which one is more of a legend ? I think the word 'legend' is over used, neither were a 'legend' in the true sense. Fjortoft was lightyears better than Parkin. In terms of footballing skill and ability, it would be like comparing John Terry to his brother Paul at Yeovil. Yes they were that far apart. I think legend implies more than the football stuff... I can think of 4 instances that stand out in my mind from his first season alone to make the case for Fjortoft: 1. Celebration of 1st goal at Ipswich in the cup after his half season drought... Not the aeroplane (that came later) but a simple double clenched fist shaking manouevere... a relieved man! 2. Interview after the Tottenham home game, with Jan displaying a Wiltshire Sound-esque level of bias. "The fact that we were drawing at half time was a disgrace to be honest... we were much better than Tottenham" or words to that effect. 3. The aeroplane 4. Bizarre Cossack dance celebration after scoring in an away game (early goal to take the lead vs Blackburn?) Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Friday, January 26, 2007, 16:55:42 I remember the extra big cheer when Fjortoft scored his first goal against Spurs - It was a kind of 'hooray we've scored' combined with 'hooray, Jan's scored at last, thank God' cheer. You can't help but wonder what might have happened had he flooked one in off his back side on the first day of the season :?
I remember a similar sort of cheer when Charlie Griffin scored for us against Barnsley. The extra cheer in his case was because he was a local(ish) lad who had been plucked from non-league obscurity. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Spencer_White on Friday, January 26, 2007, 18:26:13 Yeah, Allan Young used to get those sort of cheers as well. We were totally deluded, and fooling no one. Neither player was anywhere near good enough.
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: fjortoft on Friday, January 26, 2007, 21:32:03 Fjortoft was so much better than Parkin. International quality and scored goals for us at the top level. SSP has been the best striker we have had since though (although I was gutted when the Chief went).
I had completely forgotten about the weird Cossack dance! Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 15:51:50 What about George Ndah, Peter Thorne and Judas?
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: strooood on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 16:25:56 thorne may have got close if he hadnt started sulking towards the end.
fuck judas off completely. one season and even then he bottled it towards the end, absolutely quality and everything but parkin beats him easy. George ndah was quality but not all that prolific. now parkin, hatrick on debut. bingo. he was with us when we were mediocre then when we went shit and then hit another 20+ in the playoff season. i honestly think if we didnt have him we wouldve got relegated much earlier. remember when he got injured for a month or whatever then when he made his 'comeback' as a sub against barnsley or someone there was a proper buzz about the place. he was always scoring and he always made the right noises, even up to when he left which was all important in why he is remembered with such fondness. to be honest i can't say a bad word against him the man was fucking quality and i'd love to see him back here in a swindon shirt or not. nowhere near fjortoft in terms of quality though. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Boeta on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 16:31:35 Quote from: "Spencer_White" What about George Ndah, Peter Thorne and Judas? or even chris hay would have loved to have seen how good he'd have turned out for us if it wasn't for the injuries Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Spencer_White on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 18:02:29 Quote from: "Boeta" Quote from: "Spencer_White" What about George Ndah, Peter Thorne and Judas? or even chris hay would have loved to have seen how good he'd have turned out for us if it wasn't for the injuries Id still have Parkin over all of them! :mrgreen: I thought Thorne was a class act, probably better than Parkin. but his head/heart wasnt in it for us. Probably McMahons fault. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Lumps on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 19:21:23 Fuck me what next - Moncur or Pook?
No contest whatsoever. I can't believe Parkins got anything like 30% of the vote. Christ how old are you lot? Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: kaufman on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 19:42:27 it's funny how steve white was named as our legend on the bbc a year or so ago and yet nobody really mentions him.
he was no way near the same quality of some of the players mentioned on here but he was a bit of a legend Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: donkey on Sunday, January 28, 2007, 23:40:19 Quote from: "kaufman" it's funny how steve white was named as our legend on the bbc a year or so ago and yet nobody really mentions him. OK, then....Chalkie!! Cost nothing, scored 111 goals. When he signed Macari told him he wasn't much good and should shoot hard and low when he got a chance.... He also contolled the ball with his arse before scoring against Millwall (we were great that day!) :D and wore his shorts too high. And he once made me a cup oftea in his house 8) As for the vote, it's got to be Jan...he was looking directly at me when he counted to three against Coventry... Cheers for the goals, celebrations, skill, first touch, vision and ability to help Keith Scott score a lot (possibly the chant that no=one singing it believed). Cheers Donkey Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: el duque on Monday, January 29, 2007, 13:18:44 Quote from: "donkey" Quote from: "kaufman" it's funny how steve white was named as our legend on the bbc a year or so ago and yet nobody really mentions him. OK, then....Chalkie!! Cost nothing, scored 111 goals. When he signed Macari told him he wasn't much good and should shoot hard and low when he got a chance.... He also contolled the ball with his arse before scoring against Millwall (we were great that day!) :D and wore his shorts too high. And he once made me a cup oftea in his house 8) As for the vote, it's got to be Jan...he was looking directly at me when he counted to three against Coventry... Cheers for the goals, celebrations, skill, first touch, vision and ability to help Keith Scott score a lot (possibly the chant that no=one singing it believed). Cheers Donkey Plus... Missing teeth Hailing from an amusingly named place. Having a west country accent. Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, January 29, 2007, 13:25:12 Quote from: "donkey" . ...he was looking directly at me when he counted to three against Coventry... Donkey I must have been standing about three feet away from you that day :shock: Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: Rich Pullen on Monday, January 29, 2007, 13:27:10 Don Rogers won the BBC Cult Hero thingy - with Chalkie 2nd and Shaun Taylor 3rd... But yes White was a legend :D
Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: donkey on Monday, January 29, 2007, 21:38:01 Quote from: "OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR" I must have been standing about three feet away from you that day :shock: And who'd a thought we;d have ended up a couple of posts apart on tinternet....mind you I don't think I knew what the tiniternet was back then.... :oops: What was class though, was I lived in Coventry at the time...really pissed off the locals 8) Cheers Donkey Title: Parkin or Fjortoft Post by: DV on Monday, January 29, 2007, 21:41:36 Quote from: "Spencer_White" What about George Ndah, Peter Thorne and Judas? The Chief! |