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Title: interesting, read it Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 18:56:14 http://www.thisisstfc.co.uk/Forum_New/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32527
Title: Re: interesting Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 18:59:52 Quote from: "arriba" http://www.thisisstfc.co.uk/Forum_New/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32527 I have been an interested reader of Pete's posts in the past, but I must admit there is some history there, and there is just cause to imply that he has an axe to grind. However, as mentioned, he is well aware of libel laws so must feel pretty confident in his position to issue such statements Title: interesting, read it Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:01:33 Ex-director Peter Rowe I believe?
Think he may have an axe to grind but possibly with good reason reaing that. Bit that got me was the employee destroying the accounts! :shock: Title: interesting, read it Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:01:36 well he's posted it now so lets see what develops
Title: interesting, read it Post by: yeo on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:09:53 Isnt he in Oz?
Can you do someone for libel posting in another country? Title: interesting, read it Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:12:32 Quote , IIRC. I dont know what that means :oops: Title: interesting, read it Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:16:05 It's always been posted, just on the rivals site - has been posting on there for a while now from 'exile'...yes, he is in Oz.
The ex-employee is believed to be Nick Prescott, yet another that fell out with Diamandis. The list grows: Prescott Dunwoody Devlin Power approx 5000 Town fans Title: interesting, read it Post by: glos_robin on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:17:57 He obviously has an axe to grind I agree but I ddn't think many people were aware of Pete's post so got his permission to post them on the adver site.
He makes his feelings clear I know but there is alot of interesting stuff in there especially the accounts issue and that DD and Blatchley inherited no accounting system when they took over the club Title: interesting, read it Post by: lebowski on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:18:53 do we add st modwens to that list, or has j17 re-kindled the friendship?
Title: interesting, read it Post by: yeo on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:19:41 shit sorry Fred I just edited your post by accident,I meant to quote it.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:20:20 Did we ever fall out with them? I think j17 may very much put them back on the friends and family list at the CG
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:21:12 Quote from: "Yeovil Red" shit sorry Fred I just edited your post by accident,I meant to quote it. Thats ok Yeovil Wondered what had happened there Title: interesting, read it Post by: cavpete on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:21:34 iirc = if i remember correctly
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Fred Elliot on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:22:02 It means
If I Recall Correctly Title: interesting, read it Post by: yeo on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:24:09 Ah I see,ta
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Arriba on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 19:54:23 i instigate riots cunt :wink:
Title: interesting, read it Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 20:42:01 I've always taken his posts with a large wheelbarrow of salt, he clearly has an axe to grind, he's bitter and as such whilst some of what he says may contain elements of truth there's probably far more which is twisted out of context to his own gain.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: RobertT on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 22:27:54 I went with the axe thing but people know who his is, so to post it so publicly must suggest he'd be willing to standup in court - as he has previously been willing to do and won against Diamandis IIRC :wink:
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Panda Paws on Friday, January 19, 2007, 08:33:09 Sod's law, I go to read it and the thisis forum has gone tits up. Coincidence?
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Ardiles on Friday, January 19, 2007, 08:47:31 Pete almost certainly does have an axe to grind, but I'm starting to think any of us would if we were forced to deal directly with Diamandis.
For what it's worth, he was the first to mention the DTI investigation into Diamandis' affairs several months ago. When I asked him if he had any documentary evidence, he e-mailed a copy of a letter which seemed to confirm this (although I accept that you can never be 100% sure.) And sure enough, a few months later the club are forced to admit to the investigation. By all means take Pete's posts with a pich of salt. But don't discount them. Title: interesting, read it Post by: herthab on Friday, January 19, 2007, 08:49:38 Question everything.
Dismiss nothing. Or something like that............................. Title: interesting, read it Post by: deltaincline on Friday, January 19, 2007, 08:58:40 Quote from: "The Moonraker" It's always been posted, just on the rivals site - has been posting on there for a while now from 'exile'...yes, he is in Oz. The ex-employee is believed to be Nick Prescott, yet another that fell out with Diamandis. The list grows: Prescott Dunwoody Devlin Power approx 5000 Town fans The ex employee (accountant) who deleted the books was called Rob Humby IIRC. Title: interesting, read it Post by: Piemonte on Friday, January 19, 2007, 10:38:14 Thisis is back up, that thread is not.
So what did it say? Title: interesting, read it Post by: fatbury on Friday, January 19, 2007, 10:52:53 obviously too close to the truth - Pete Rowe had nothing to gain out of telling it .. he lives on the other side of the world ..
Title: interesting, read it Post by: herthab on Friday, January 19, 2007, 10:54:49 Quote from: "fatbury" obviously too close to the truth - Pete Rowe had nothing to gain out of telling it .. he lives on the other side of the world .. Stupid post fatbury. If he's got an axe to grind......... Not that I'm saying he has................ Or he hasn't................. Title: interesting, read it Post by: Piemonte on Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:09:57 SO WHAT DID IT SAY?
Title: interesting, read it Post by: herthab on Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:11:55 Quote from: "Piemonte" SO WHAT DID IT SAY? Board is BAD. Diamandes is NASTY MAN. Orange=GOOD. That's a condensed version................ Title: interesting, read it Post by: Piemonte on Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:34:35 Excellent. I agree 100%
Title: interesting, read it Post by: RobertT on Friday, January 19, 2007, 11:50:55 Rowe made a few claims about the state of the club when he was employed around 1999/2000. It basically intimated that the consortium that took back control was partially made-up of people who ahd created the mess they went on to complain about.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, January 19, 2007, 15:10:27 was it this?
http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=1019&p=16&style=2&forumId=3486&action=1&replytoid=530245907 or this http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=1019&p=16&style=2&forumId=3486&action=1&replytoid=530249949 Title: interesting, read it Post by: herthab on Friday, January 19, 2007, 15:14:45 Quote from: "ron dodgers" was it this? http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=1019&p=16&style=2&forumId=3486&action=1&replytoid=530245907 or this http://boards.rivals.net/default.asp?sid=1019&p=16&style=2&forumId=3486&action=1&replytoid=530249949 Yep. Plus some other bits IIRC Title: interesting, read it Post by: ron dodgers on Friday, January 19, 2007, 15:17:13 ah - most interesting - I'm enjoying the board antics nearly as much as the footie this year
Title: interesting, read it Post by: glos_robin on Friday, January 19, 2007, 18:45:27 I've been at work all day so only just got a chance to see that my posts got deleted......so what actually happened?
I haven't received a threatening email yet... Title: interesting, read it Post by: Whits on Friday, January 19, 2007, 19:45:12 Quote I've been at work all day so only just got a chance to see that my posts got deleted......so what actually happened? the club were intouch... Title: interesting, read it Post by: red macca on Friday, January 19, 2007, 19:50:00 oooooh did they threaten you
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 19, 2007, 19:52:50 Whits can you post up what the Board are sending you....I don't like the idea of you thinking your neck is on the chopping block.....we're a community here and an attack on one is an attack on all.....there will be a lot of very pissed off people if that is happening.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Whits on Friday, January 19, 2007, 19:54:14 i'll post an explanation in a bit, just popping out to get a few shandys
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, January 19, 2007, 19:57:27 Maybe we should call them and tell them to stop posting utter shite on their own website.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: sonic youth on Friday, January 19, 2007, 20:07:05 I can't speak for Whits but I've also received phone calls and emails from the club regarding comments posted on here in recent weeks, which is why I posted the announcement on Wednesday.
This afternoon I received a phone call regarding this thread and was told that the Adver had chosen to remove the thread on their forum in order to protect themselves as some of the comments made by Peter Rowe could be potentially libellous. Personally I've not found them to be particularly threatening but it's clear they're issuing a gentle warning. Usually I'd balk at the thought of censoring people but for the sake of Whits, the site and individuals who post then it's a sad neccesity that people need to tread a little more carefully. Title: interesting, read it Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 19, 2007, 20:25:50 Quote from: "sonic youth" I can't speak for Whits but I've also received phone calls and emails from the club regarding comments posted on here in recent weeks, which is why I posted the announcement on Wednesday. This afternoon I received a phone call regarding this thread and was told that the Adver had chosen to remove the thread on their forum in order to protect themselves as some of the comments made by Peter Rowe could be potentially libellous. Personally I've not found them to be particularly threatening but it's clear they're issuing a gentle warning. Usually I'd balk at the thought of censoring people but for the sake of Whits, the site and individuals who post then it's a sad neccesity that people need to tread a little more carefully. These comments by Rowe have been on MOS for years, without presumably causing any problems....I regard this as an attack on our community and call for direct retaliatory action if they continue, Title: interesting, read it Post by: sonic youth on Friday, January 19, 2007, 20:31:17 I think it's more a case of nobody knows who is responsible for MOS as it's hosted by another site, whereas some people at the club are aware of who I am.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, January 19, 2007, 20:38:09 Quote from: "sonic youth" I think it's more a case of nobody knows who is responsible for MOS as it's hosted by another site, whereas some people at the club are aware of who I am. How so... Dave Hanley has been running MOS for 5 or 6 years....he hasn't changed any features in that time! The Board know TEF is the most potent source of ideas and opinion forming, and so have chosen to attack us, in an effort to silence....what in the case of the Rowe stuff is already in the public domain. It may be coincidental, but the Board are currently trying to sweet talk some of the businesses in Swindon in search of a new sponsor....it can't help their cause when alarge percentage of the fan base has no confidence i them and might call for a boycott of the company. Title: interesting, read it Post by: glos_robin on Friday, January 19, 2007, 23:08:20 Again it seems the club are just being hypocritics again, they name drop into almost every statement slagging off various people, I'm sure Peter will now get a mention in the next statement. Yet as soon as anyone fires anything back at them they just threaten them with this, that and the other.
If they decided to take legal action against any fan that would surely be the final nail in the coffin as I would envisage that the whole fanbase would be up in arms and it would then get really nasty But oh well I can't be bothered with it, I'm just gonna shut up and let them go into meltdown Title: interesting, read it Post by: Ben-STFC on Saturday, January 20, 2007, 00:05:18 Time for a protest me thinks.
The board think they can bully fans around like this its disgusting. Title: interesting, read it Post by: millom red on Saturday, January 20, 2007, 01:28:22 Im gonna stay silent for a change, but if the club want a fight...........bring it on.
If they have to monitor forums to guage the opinions of fans, then it is a sad state of affairs. Title: interesting, read it Post by: genf_stfc on Saturday, January 20, 2007, 01:33:27 i think there is a need for a 'messages from the board' section on this site.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, January 20, 2007, 01:43:46 After a hard evenings work it's like coming home and finding it tainted by evil. I think I know how those little people felt at the end of that Lord of the rings book. If only we had some homosexual hobbits to save the day.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: lebowski on Saturday, January 20, 2007, 09:53:34 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "sonic youth" I think it's more a case of nobody knows who is responsible for MOS as it's hosted by another site, whereas some people at the club are aware of who I am. How so... Dave Hanley has been running MOS for 5 or 6 years....he hasn't changed any features in that time! The Board know TEF is the most potent source of ideas and opinion forming, and so have chosen to attack us, in an effort to silence....what in the case of the Rowe stuff is already in the public domain. you're probably right there reg. a couple of seasons ago both hartlepool and luton had their rivals.net message boards closed down by their respective boards due to "potentially libellous" posts. the situation now is that if the board start throwing their weight around and shutting down message boards then that would just be putting another bullet-hole in their already obliterated feet, but they clearly aren't afraid of a little scare-mongering, or bullying, if you like. Title: interesting, read it Post by: ron dodgers on Sunday, January 21, 2007, 01:06:28 every one of you is entitled to your personal opinion - don't be so scared - do you really think that they will sue you - errrrrr no.
Title: interesting, read it Post by: RobertT on Sunday, January 21, 2007, 13:10:37 Lets not forget Rowe also beat them in Court. He knows how it works so I presume only posts things he can substantiate (albeit with a slight angle added to show is contempt for Diamandis).
Title: interesting, read it Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, January 21, 2007, 13:18:54 Quote from: "RobertT" Lets not forget Rowe also beat them in Court. He knows how it works so I presume only posts things he can substantiate (albeit with a slight angle added to show is contempt for Diamandis). Exactly - when it comes down to proving any libel, the board go a tad sheepish. To close to home perhaps.... None of us really know, but I wouldn't mind knowing their 'slant' on things at this forum. |