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Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:08:52
Swindon v Yeovil Youth starting at 7 at the County Ground tonight ..anyone going ? Winner plays home to Burnley in Round 5


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:11:37
nah not if your going to be there Fatters  :wink:


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:33:26
didnt say I was going


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:37:38
I didn't say I was going either, but it doesn't mean I'm not!  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


I'm not going by the way.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:38:08
I have an exam in the morning, so no.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:39:49
I still don't have a car.

So no.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: The_Plagiarist on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:41:58
Lame quote by the way  :-))(


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:49:22
how much is it to get in?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: fatbury on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 11:53:24
thats a bloody good question ... just checked £3 for adults and £1 for concession


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 12:17:48
hmmm maybe i'll go... but probably not.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 12:22:31
Meet in the merlin at 4pm?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: DV on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 13:01:03
tempted...


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 15:09:09
I'll be there. Might be the last time we see Jutkiewicz  :cry:


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 15:18:48
to be honest gaz I dont think hes quite enough of the finished product for a bigger league team to come in for him.....just yet.

He wont get exposure to first team games at a higher leauge club and it will do him good to get more games under his belt, if he does go it wont be till the end of the season for me.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 15:20:21
Quote from: "jjedmunds"
to be honest gaz I dont think hes quite enough of the finished product for a bigger league team to come in for him.....just yet.

He wont get exposure to first team games at a higher leauge club and it will do him good to get more games under his belt, if he does go it wont be till the end of the season for me.

Where as I agree, Its a shame as many "bigger clubs" will see his potential and if he scores again tonight it will alert biggers teams, The adver claims scouts from spurs, chelski and ManUre were at the game against Swansea....


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: sonic youth on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 15:21:00
Quote from: "The_Plagiarist"
Lame quote by the way  :-))(


Okay!


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Spud on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 16:51:57
Quote from: "STFC_Gazza"
I'll be there. Might be the last time we see Jutkiewicz  :cry:


And you believe everything the Adver say.  :roll:


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 16:59:33
Quote from: "Spuddy_STFC"
Quote from: "STFC_Gazza"
I'll be there. Might be the last time we see Jutkiewicz  :cry:


And you believe everything the Adver say.  :roll:


No just saying, end of the day Jutkiewicz hasnt started even though he was scoring. Maybe it was because he is knackered but?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 17:32:40
I wanted to go... but I have to stay at home and apply for a mortgage instead  :cry:


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:15:47
Town 1-0 up after 5 mins......Alex Rigley the scorer, no idea who he is.

Jukebox starts to


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:22:25
2-0 now Chris Allen from 25 yards


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:26:02
how are you getting these updates?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: stfc_steve on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:28:41
hhhmmmmmm sounds interesting, come on town


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:33:51
radio swindon, and the official site


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:45:35
3-0 and it included a Chris Allen "wonder strike"

Hands off Premiership scouts!


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:47:04
Rigley with the third goal..........3-0


scorers:
Rigley x 2
Allen


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 19:50:54
Half time:  Swindon 3   Yeovil 0


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:13:10
Come on the Yoof!


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:21:30
Anybody actually know much about this lot? Other than Jutkiewicz, who else are we likely to see in the first team before long? Chris Allen's name seems to pop up now and again, as well as Rigley - any details on them? Seem to remember past youth teams, especially the Campagna/Culbertson/McAreavey one getting loads more press than this one - fat lot of use it did them mind...


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:31:08
Scott Doe is a central defender and was signed with Theo Walcott wasn't he and at one stage considered to have more potential than Walcott.

Jon Stewart is a big lump in goal but doesn't inspire me with confidence.

Mustaffa Carayol I think could be a useful player, other than that I don't really know much about the rest.

I've got the highlights of the QPR game on my PC and it's not protected content like stfc world but wouldn't have a clue how to put it up on here


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: swindon-chap on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:33:34
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
Anybody actually know much about this lot? Other than Jutkiewicz, who else are we likely to see in the first team before long? Chris Allen's name seems to pop up now and again, as well as Rigley - any details on them? Seem to remember past youth teams, especially the Campagna/Culbertson/McAreavey one getting loads more press than this one - fat lot of use it did them mind...

I've heard Scott Doe's someone who could maybe break into the first team in the future.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:33:57
No sign of Carayol tonight - i remember we (or rather Tuttle/Lee) got him from Woking in the summer

Always a bit wary of talking up the kids - remember when Alan Young and a centre back (name escapes me) went up to Celtic on trial - then they made little or no impact on the first team.

We seem to have very successful youth teams but the 'conversion rate' to pro seems to be low in comparison.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:36:45
Quote from: "glos_robin"
Scott Doe is a central defender and was signed with Theo Walcott wasn't he and at one stage considered to have more potential than Walcott.

Jon Stewart is a big lump in goal but doesn't inspire me with confidence.

Mustaffa Carayol I think could be a useful player, other than that I don't really know much about the rest.

I've got the highlights of the QPR game on my PC and it's not protected content like stfc world but wouldn't have a clue how to put it up on here


QPR highlights...put them on youtube and link it?

4-0 up now


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:37:41
Another one was Chris Taylor, he was considered a hot prospect making his debut at 16 but disappeared off the scene very quickly


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:38:33
4-0 now, jake hyde with the 4th

I'll try the youtube thing then


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: manc red on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:39:49
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
No sign of Carayol tonight - i remember we (or rather Tuttle/Lee) got him from Woking in the summer

Always a bit wary of talking up the kids - remember when Alan Young and a centre back (name escapes me) went up to Celtic on trial - then they made little or no impact on the first team.

We seem to have very successful youth teams but the 'conversion rate' to pro seems to be low in comparison.


didnt young and holcroft/hulbert go up to newcastle for a trail around the same time?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:39:53
Taylor looked class when he came in - but then when you get man of the match 2 games from 3 and are plastered all over the local rag the next day at 16, you probably think you're the boy about town, rather than knuckle down (or he did...)

scored for basingstoke at the weekend


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:41:55
Quote from: "manc red"
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
No sign of Carayol tonight - i remember we (or rather Tuttle/Lee) got him from Woking in the summer

Always a bit wary of talking up the kids - remember when Alan Young and a centre back (name escapes me) went up to Celtic on trial - then they made little or no impact on the first team.

We seem to have very successful youth teams but the 'conversion rate' to pro seems to be low in comparison.


didnt young and holcroft/hulbert go up to newcastle for a trail around the same time?


No, Hulbert preceded Young by at least 2 or 3 years. Holcroft was a kid we picked up from Everton - and never really did anything. Hulbert did go on trial to Newcastle but nothing came of it - wonder if he'd have kicked on with us if we didn't have to sell him because of that bloody clause.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: mattboyslim on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:43:46
At one point Hulbert was rumoured to have been subject to a £250k bid from Villa?

Of all our young players Mildy and Sol Davis have really been the only ones to make a good career for themselves, off the top of my head in recent years.  Its a miracle that Hulbert dragged his career out, he was so ineffective and lightweight IIRC.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:46:32
Leigh Mills is another one, often captains Spurs reserves now and has represented England at every level upto under 18's.....we made a right mess of that transfer deal.

Matthew Mills his brother is at Southampton now I think and is another hot prospect


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: manc red on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:46:45
http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=10699

hulbert is still playing at port vale


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: manc red on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:47:34
Matthew Mills is at man city now isnt he?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:48:43
Quote from: "glos_robin"
Matthew Mills his brother is at Southampton now I think and is another hot prospect


Nope, went to Man City for £1.2million during the summer. Regularly on the bench.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:49:09
Quote from: "manc red"
Matthew Mills is at man city now isnt he?


That is correct.

Does Hulbert count as he joined us from Everton?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:49:26
Quote from: "manc red"
Matthew Mills is at man city now isnt he?


yeah think your right actually, went for a fair amount of money as well if I remember correctly


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:50:07
Wasn't Matt Collins at Swindon as well?

Went to Fulham as a record fee for a 15yr old or something like that IIRC.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: manc red on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:51:00
i remember watching fraser mchugh trying to break into theteam, he certainly put effort in. even made a bit of acome back at bradford and then notts county a few years later didnt he?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:51:18
yep Collins was, what happened to his brother Chris, didn't he go somewhere as well?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:52:37
Quote from: "glos_robin"
yep Collins was, what happened to his brother Chris, didn't he go somewhere as well?


Not playing according to Soccerbase.

http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=32615


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:53:54
Full-Time: Great result for the kids and well done to the staff too.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: blinkpip on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:54:06
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
I wanted to go... but I have to stay at home and apply for a mortgage instead  :cry:


£3 isn't exactly going to affect your mortgage. I thought you earn a packet?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:54:31
Hulbert, sort of...because he was released from ther youth team and we grabbed him and he played in ours prior to senior football - so it was youth scouting.

Matthew Collins was another who went off to Fulham for a six-figure sum - and has since done bugger all. (so I suppose we did quite well out of it)That's an example we have to use to kids who want to leave now.

But it seems that as a rule, we get a load of kids through who leave if they're cut out for it, and stay if they're not. Pook gets a hard time on here, but does show flashes of decency.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:55:54
Quote from: "blinkpip"
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
I wanted to go... but I have to stay at home and apply for a mortgage instead  :cry:


£3 isn't exactly going to affect your mortgage. I thought you earn a packet?


No, you misunderstood. I had my adviser round to complete the application and everything. Signed my life away about an hour ago.

I wouldn't say I earn a packet, just enough to get by and have a bit of fun every month. Nothing on the scale of what some people on here earn. Although hopefully I'm going to do my full CEMAP this year so I can do Macca out of a job  :D


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:57:30
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdj2antY2Jg


try that link for the QPR highlights I think....still processing at the moment  :roll:


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 20:58:29
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
Hulbert, sort of...because he was released from ther youth team and we grabbed him and he played in ours prior to senior football - so it was youth scouting.

Matthew Collins was another who went off to Fulham for a six-figure sum - and has since done bugger all. (so I suppose we did quite well out of it)That's an example we have to use to kids who want to leave now.

But it seems that as a rule, we get a load of kids through who leave if they're cut out for it, and stay if they're not. Pook gets a hard time on here, but does show flashes of decency.


It's sad really because all these kids want to do is play football but they don't receive the most sensible advice from their parents et al.

Of course, a kid will want to play for a Premiership academy but as Dave Byrne mentions in his article the odds are they'll have more chance breaking into the STFC first team.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: yeo on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:01:48
I dont think its true.

Premiership youngsters go out on loan if they are good enough so have as much chance of first team football even if its not their actual club,plus they get developed by better class coaches.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:02:11
The flip side is that they'll receive better coaching (debatably) at bigger clubs and therefore be a better player when it comes around to senior level - if they get released, they getreleased, but can get picked up then by a lower league club.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:03:50
youth cup highlights work now lads


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:15:54
Quote from: "glos_robin"
youth cup highlights work now lads


How'd you get hold of them? Will you have tonights?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: glos_robin on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:17:02
Quote from: "Tails"
Quote from: "glos_robin"
youth cup highlights work now lads


How'd you get hold of them? Will you have tonights?


They were on STFC world a while back, if they do the same for tonights game I'll put them up to

Looking at them again though, they might have been done by QPR so not sure whether we'll do our own for tonight


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: DV on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:23:22
4-0 good result and good performance.

First 20 minutes was total football, we scored twice and hit the bar twice. It was a joy to watch.

Calmed down a bit after that, but some good football....

no idea who scored...ran out of team sheets before I got there.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:25:04
Alex Rigley twice, Allen with a long range and Hyde I think.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, January 16, 2007, 21:31:24
Those highlights are funny as - not least because that bloke shouldn't have been sent off, but more that his reaction, and that of their bloke who missed the decisive pen was the same....whip your shirt off to show your 'ard. Tossers.

QPR did us good and proper by the look of them too!


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: McLovin on Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 11:53:07
FYI Leigh and Matthew Mills aren't related.

We did have Jamie Mills here at one point, older brother of Matthew.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Samdy Gray on Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 17:34:30
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
FYI Leigh and Matthew Mills aren't related.

We did have Jamie Mills here at one point, older brother of Matthew.


Isn't Jamie the JP Mills that plays at Supermarine?


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: sonic youth on Wednesday, January 17, 2007, 18:48:55
I just saw the goals on ITV, some good strikes - Allen's and Hyde's were excellent.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 11:04:43
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
FYI Leigh and Matthew Mills aren't related.

We did have Jamie Mills here at one point, older brother of Matthew.


Isn't Jamie the JP Mills that plays at Supermarine?


No, JP is older than Matt, but younger than Jamie. They all have another brother who is on Southamptons books... bit of a footballing family!


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, January 18, 2007, 11:08:35
Quote from: "Dave Blackcurrant"
bit of a footballing family!


I once knew a family with a couple of kids in Football Academy's - Both the parents and kids were completely arrogant. Both of those kids are now playing Western League football now... They're no longer so smug.

That is all.


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: larwood on Friday, January 19, 2007, 12:31:16
Date set for the next round :)
http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~966342,00.html


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: swindon-chap on Friday, January 19, 2007, 16:15:16
Quote from: "larwood"
Date set for the next round :)
http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~966342,00.html

Should be a decent turnout for that one. A few more scouts too...


Title: FA Youth Cup 4th Round
Post by: Tails on Friday, January 19, 2007, 16:59:39
The mills family all went to my old school. There was one in the year below me who I think is with Southampton.