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Title: Beckham
Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 14:21:53
To leave Real madrid at the end of the season they are not renewing his contract.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 14:31:22
Now there's a suprise.

Los Angeles Galaxy I would imagine.


Title: Beckham
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 14:46:35
or the Kashima Antlers


Title: Beckham
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:25:58
he has a soccer school in Los Angeles...


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:42:37
I think he will retire or would not be suprised to see him loaned out somewhere now


Title: Beckham
Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:51:26
He could probably still do a job for us. Hasn't got the pace of shakes though.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:52:44
Quote from: "flammableBen"
He could probably still do a job for us. Hasn't got the pace of shakes though.


Not a striker though  :wink:


Title: Beckham
Post by: hansgruber on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:56:38
Bolton were after him last I heard. Bet Kevin Davies would love to have Beckham crossing to him!


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 15:58:41
I doubt Beckham will play for anyone in England other than Manchester United - I think the USofA is his next destination.


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 16:00:15
Quote from: "RichPullen"
I doubt Beckham will play for anyone in England other than Manchester United - I think the USofA is his next destination.
or spurs his grandad loved em


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 16:01:58
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "RichPullen"
I doubt Beckham will play for anyone in England other than Manchester United - I think the USofA is his next destination.
or spurs his grandad loved em


But Beckham's wife loved California when they went of their holidays there!  :)


Title: Beckham
Post by: mattboyslim on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 16:13:59
It's make or break for him, if he goes to the States its a total concession that his top level career is over, and he wouldn't get in the team there they've got migzy :wink:

If Beackham seriously wants to suceed at the top leevl again he'll need to go to a top team in England, Spain or Italy.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 21:05:45
I'd wager Italy followed by the States and/or Quatar.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Scot Munroe on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 21:11:10
he will go to inter.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 21:25:18
i really dont give a shit about him. never have tbh! probably never will!


Title: Beckham
Post by: Fred Elliot on Wednesday, January 10, 2007, 21:31:12
According to TS tonight, he has not been released, evidently it was a mix up in translation.

However, if he has serious aspirations of a swangsong for his country he needs to come home


Title: Beckham
Post by: Sippo on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 08:59:51
If Ole Golden Balls goes anywhere else apart from La Liga, Serie A or the Premiership I reckon thats it for MR Becks. Career over.


Title: Beckham
Post by: McLovin on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 09:50:24
I'd like to think he won't go to the likes of Qatar or anywhere for a big payday, as i doubt he needs the cash.

For my money, he'll end up in the USA so Posh can try and get into movies.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Northern Red on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 13:19:00
Quote from: "mattboyslim"
It's make or break for him, if he goes to the States its a total concession that his top level career is over, and he wouldn't get in the team there they've got migzy :wink:

Beckham playing alongside Miglioranzi  :D  

What odds would you've got on that bet a few years ago  :shock:


Title: Beckham
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 14:27:41
Apparently now in talks with LA Galaxy ...


Title: Beckham
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 14:50:26
Quote from: "Chris K"
Apparently now in talks with LA Galaxy ...


Just seen that on SSN. Beckham says he is rady for a new challenge.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 14:56:10
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
Quote from: "Chris K"
Apparently now in talks with LA Galaxy ...


Just seen that on SSN. Beckham says he is rady for a new challenge.


Now Reuters saying he's going to sign for LAG


Title: Beckham
Post by: millom red on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 14:58:56
I couldnt give a monkeys chuff where he ends up! He's a dimwitted fuckin pansy!
 :twisted:


Title: Beckham
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 15:10:28
Quote from: "Chris K"
Quote from: "SwindonUltra"
Quote from: "Chris K"
Apparently now in talks with LA Galaxy ...


Just seen that on SSN. Beckham says he is rady for a new challenge.


Now Reuters saying he's going to sign for LAG


on a 5 year deal. worth all together £103 million pounds.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 15:14:17
Oh well. Good holiday opp now. Seen him playing at Old Trafford and the Bernabau, might as well complete the hat trick!!!


Title: Beckham
Post by: hansgruber on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 15:15:20
He'll never play for England again now. What're the chances of him playing for the USA?


Title: Beckham
Post by: millom red on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 15:25:30
They would probably give him citizenship due to his iconic stature.
Never even crossed my mind Hans...Good shout.

Millom


Title: Beckham
Post by: Batch on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 15:30:07
Should do well as Migs understudy. "Stef, give Becks a run for the last 5 minutes please".


Title: Beckham
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 16:27:53
£103million!?!?!?!

The USA has one of the best (IMO) pay structures in football, the average wage being only $60,000 a year (£40,000).

It's just going to spiral now and end up like Premiership pay standards.


Title: Beckham
Post by: sonic youth on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 16:41:58
Quote from: "Batch"
Should do well as Migs understudy. "Stef, give Becks a run for the last 5 minutes please".


bizarre ain't it, 12 months ago stef was playing in a shit team struggling in league one surrounded by players like pook and fallon whilst beckham was playing in the champions league alongside ronaldo, zidane et al.

the mind boggles.

good luck to him, he'll get slated for how much he's getting paid but you can't really blame him for it!


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 16:43:36
Quote from: "hansgruber"
What're the chances of him playing for the USA?


Absolute Nil.

Beckham's pending move to the Galaxy is the dawning a new era for MLS - There used to be laws against such moves because of the demise of the NASL now the MLS has to prove that they can cope with major signings such as Beckham.

Because many Americans are playing in Europe now it won't hinder their development in football like it did in the 1970's.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 17:21:31
Quote from: "sam_stfc"
£103million!?!?!?!

The USA has one of the best (IMO) pay structures in football, the average wage being only $60,000 a year (£40,000).

It's just going to spiral now and end up like Premiership pay standards.


that is over 5 years. he will earn 20 million a year which includes his image rights.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 17:36:29
He must be hoping that Migs' injury-prone'ness' continues - otherwise there's no chance Becks will get a game in the middle


Title: Beckham
Post by: Northern Red on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 17:39:14
Any chance of getting Migz back then?  :mrgreen:


Title: Beckham
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 18:44:32
£493,000 a week for 5 years :)


Title: Beckham
Post by: STFC Village on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 19:01:39
Quote from: "BigBobJoylove"
£493,000 a week for 5 years :)
*$


Title: Beckham
Post by: Scot Munroe on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 20:06:40
His contract is like this
An annual salary of $10m

His existing sponsorship contracts with his four sponsors - Motorola, Pepsi, Gillette and Volkswagen - are estimated to be worth $25m

His merchandising shirt sales will bring in $10m

His share of the club profits: $10m

that is $55m a year times that by 5 and then you would get $275m.


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Thursday, January 11, 2007, 22:32:41
Fair play to the bloke.You cant blame him one bit


Title: Beckham
Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 12, 2007, 08:36:38
No Footballer in my opinion deserves half a million pound a week.

"I'm not going for financial reasons".... :roll:


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Friday, January 12, 2007, 08:53:16
Quote from: "stfcfan"
No Footballer in my opinion deserves half a million pound a week.

"I'm not going for financial reasons".... :roll:
Of course they dont but to be fair he does have soccer schools out in LA  so it seems fairly logical to me.At the end of the day he has done well for himself i wish him luck


Title: Beckham
Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:01:24
It is a very clever move. Once he retires he'll have so much work. He's a star already over there. He doesn't need all that money. No-one does, especially after all the merchandising work, commercial work etc on top aswell.

As for the schools. He has one in London so why didn't he move to West Ham or someone else?


Title: Beckham
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:08:04
Quote from: "stfcfan"
It is a very clever move. Once he retires he'll have so much work. He's a star already over there. He doesn't need all that money. No-one does, especially after all the merchandising work, commercial work etc on top aswell.

As for the schools. He has one in London so why didn't he move to West Ham or someone else?


 :soap:


Title: Beckham
Post by: Cookie on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:09:06
Beckham won't change america into a nation of soccer lovers, if Pele can't do it then Becks definitely can't.


Title: Beckham
Post by: magicroundabout on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:12:41
in any case it's fucking football not soccer.

if the stupid yanks want to pay him stupid money then so be it.

fair play to the bloke


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:14:28
Quote from: "Cookie"
Beckham won't change america into a nation of soccer lovers, if Pele can't do it then Becks definitely can't.
To be fair cookie they had not held the world cup at that stage its becoming more popular now yesterday they got 2000 applicants for season tickets alone because of this.if pele had gone over when they had held a world event it might have been different..

As for the other post why not west ham where would you have honestly gone.Its a amazing deal and ANY player in the world would of accepted that i believe if someone offered rooney,ronaldinho the same tomorow they would accept it aswell so why shouldnt he


Title: Beckham
Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:19:41
Macca, my point is that he doesn't need the money and isn't going for the money- apparently. He said he wants to play for England again surely he's got more chance in somewhere like Serie a? In all fairness, MLS isn't going to be the most testing for him is it? I can see the temptation cos everyone wants more money, and as I said it is an amazing move financially now and in the future because it will open new avenues for him, but to say its not for the money is not being honest imo. He shouldn't even mentioned it.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Cookie on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:19:43
New York Cosmos had 78,000 sell outs of Giants stadium when Pele was there but the interest just disappeared as soon as he left, people went to watch him not the football. it'll be the same with becks, the average american bloke will never watch footy,

maybe there is a market made up from kids, women and immigrants but I don't think there's enough interest in footy to sustain salaries like beckham's (TBH no league in the world could sustain his salary).


Title: Beckham
Post by: millom red on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:21:09
I read somewhere recently that there are more adult women registered to play ahem..soccer in the states than blokes! :shock:

Perhaps the mls see him as eye candy for the ladies :roll:

The yoof is where it is at really and as macca has pointed out, the profile has risen significantly for ahem...soccer since the world cup was held there,. and we ended up having to watch the likes of Lalas and Coby Jones amongst others gracing our fields.

The Glaziers and the Lerners of this world taking over premiership clubs with history in British football has also raised the profile of ahem...soccer stateside. They just lurve history the yanks dont they, they seem to buy it at any cost, Becks included.

I'm of the opinion that this is a cunning Bush plan to move america foreward in their quest for world dominance! :P


Title: Beckham
Post by: mattboyslim on Friday, January 12, 2007, 09:32:20
In the states the 'soccer mom' a women who ferries her little girl around in a hummer to play 'soccer' is seen as a key voting demographic in winning elections, much like 'mondeo man' has been seen in the UK.  The states percieve football as a girls game due largely to the lack of need for loads of stupid rules, a lack of time outs, draws happening and the fact you don't need tons of padding to play.


Title: Beckham
Post by: genf_stfc on Friday, January 12, 2007, 10:14:29
so at $1,000,000 a week, I make that roughly a quid a second.  They should pay him it all in 1p pieces, I reckon that would that would take him 2 years to count it.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Devon Red on Friday, January 12, 2007, 10:59:36
I've got no respect for the bloke now. He's blatantly doing it for the finanial side of it.
And this might not go down very well but I never overly rated him playing for England. He seemed to just disappear unless it was a game where everyone was shit (eg-greece) then evryone seemed to love him. He bottled it in big tournaments I feel and has simply been living off that Greece goal for too long. He was quality at Man Utd but I don't feel he ever really replicated that fo England and as soon as he was made captain for England I think we just turned into a media circus about him rather than the football (eg-the strike action).


Title: Beckham
Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:02:55
He thought he ran the England squad. He thought he was the main star-which is probably part of the reason he was dropped perhaps?. The same will happen at LA Galaxy. He'll think he's god's gift.


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:18:14
Quote from: "Devon Red"
I've got no respect for the bloke now. He's blatantly doing it for the finanial side of it.
And this might not go down very well but I never overly rated him playing for England. He seemed to just disappear unless it was a game where everyone was shit (eg-greece) then evryone seemed to love him. He bottled it in big tournaments I feel and has simply been living off that Greece goal for too long. He was quality at Man Utd but I don't feel he ever really replicated that fo England and as soon as he was made captain for England I think we just turned into a media circus about him rather than the football (eg-the strike action).
see im one of his supporters tbh The strike situation was neville btw.Anyway to be critical of a player who has been on the bench all year and basically told he has not got a england future for accepting a offer which i firmly believe NO ONE would turn down is a bit harsh.i agree about his performances but to a degree who has single handedly got us qualified like he did against greece.if your honest that free kick capped off a amazing performance that he had that day.

For that reason alone i got some respect for the bloke.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Devon Red on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:26:52
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Devon Red"
I've got no respect for the bloke now. He's blatantly doing it for the finanial side of it.
And this might not go down very well but I never overly rated him playing for England. He seemed to just disappear unless it was a game where everyone was shit (eg-greece) then evryone seemed to love him. He bottled it in big tournaments I feel and has simply been living off that Greece goal for too long. He was quality at Man Utd but I don't feel he ever really replicated that fo England and as soon as he was made captain for England I think we just turned into a media circus about him rather than the football (eg-the strike action).
see im one of his supporters tbh The strike situation was neville btw.Anyway to be critical of a player who has been on the bench all year and basically told he has not got a england future for accepting a offer which i firmly believe NO ONE would turn down is a bit harsh.i agree about his performances but to a degree who has single handedly got us qualified like he did against greece.if your honest that free kick capped off a amazing performance that he had that day.

For that reason alone i got some respect for the bloke.
I agree he was brilliant that day but I also felt he shone more because everyone else on the pitch was so bad and not up for the game. It needed a performances like that in the knockout stages etc but I think that is one of very few inspiring performances from him for England. I agree with you about the money that no one would turn it down especially after beig told he has no future at England and Madrid, but it just seems wrong that one person can command that much money especially as he's already one of the richest footballers in the world. It will be interesting to see what sort of response he gets there and what it will do for the game stateside.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:35:16
I would have liked him to have played on at the highest level for a few more years as he is only 31 and could have won his place back in england squad. However by not choosing the prem or seria a, money and film fame spring to mind not football (enginered by his wife) so i have lost all respect for him as he seems like a puppet for vics own media lime light manipulation. No player in his right mind would choose the mls to enchance there footballing career no matter how much money they were offered if they were playing for a top european side.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:47:19
Why do people compare Beckham with the average footballer? He's a brand.

Pretty much as soon as he was going out with the "posh" tart from the Spice Girls it became about commercialism - not football.

It is no coincidence that Beckham has played for two of the most marketable teams in the world and he earned £17million promoting the likes of Gillette and Vodafone. It's widely acknowledged that he was given the number 23 at Real as it was Michael Jordan's number.

Beckham and the U.S. go together well and I'm suprised everyone is causing such a fuss. Why should he join Bolton or Celtic if doesn't want to?

In regards to football it's clear to everyone that McClaren will not select him, regardless to how well he plays - He's 31 so why the hell shouldn't he play in the U.S.?


Title: Beckham
Post by: my-velocity on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:49:32
LA Galaxy = Mugs :D


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, January 12, 2007, 11:51:13
Quote from: "stfcbeckett"
LA Galaxy = Mugs :D


I'd love it if Beckham lines-up alongside Migz though! I doubt Stef will be there for long.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Summerof69 on Friday, January 12, 2007, 12:15:12
If Beckham says it's not for the money, then he can surely donate a days salary from his new contract to each of the 150 Supporters Trusts.

They all could do with £70k...and they would use it by helping save their clubs.

Personally, it is disgusting him getting paid as much, when there are clubs on the breadline, and it's thanks to Premiership players like him, that they are.


Title: Beckham
Post by: Sippo on Friday, January 12, 2007, 13:59:56
Not sure if this is true or not but apparently there was a wage cap before Becks arrived in MLS but they abandoned it for him....


Title: Beckham
Post by: Rich Pullen on Friday, January 12, 2007, 14:10:02
Quote from: "stfcfan"
Not sure if this is true or not but apparently there was a wage cap before Becks arrived in MLS but they abandoned it for him....


Yep it's called The Designated Player Rule, aka the Beckham Rule.

It's a bit like the marquee player system in Austrailia.

The rule allows each of the MLS teams to sign one player that would be considered outside of the clubs salary cap.


Title: Beckham
Post by: red macca on Friday, January 12, 2007, 15:21:40
Quote from: "Summerof69"
If Beckham says it's not for the money, then he can surely donate a days salary from his new contract to each of the 150 Supporters Trusts.

They all could do with £70k...and they would use it by helping save their clubs.

Personally, it is disgusting him getting paid as much, when there are clubs on the breadline, and it's thanks to Premiership players like him, that they are.
You cant blame him for that though can you,Mel gibson can earn £40 million for doing just one film and no one will cause a fuss then will they


Title: Beckham
Post by: flammableBen on Friday, January 12, 2007, 16:07:37
I do. Mel Gibson's a drunken anti-Semitic twat....

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Title: Beckham
Post by: millom red on Saturday, January 13, 2007, 03:11:17
Macca i admire your loyalty towards becks, but ive just heard him interviewed on the radio saying money didnt enter his mind when the opportunity to move to america came his way!! :evil:
 Does he think we are as daft as he is? It's all about Brand Beckham init....I bet hollywood directors are running for the hills for fear that Victoria will be knocking on the door!
Comedy script writers however, will be well chuuffed!


Title: Beckham
Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, January 13, 2007, 08:04:00
Im sorry but that salery is fucking digusting,
There are people in the world who work their asses off to bring good to the world (doctors/fireman etc etc) earning pittance in retrospect of what they actualy do and heres a has been, past it footballer earning 80p/sec, half a mil a year for doing something he loves doing and im sure  if the salarys weren't so lucrative in the first place he would still be doing anyway purley from the love he has of the sport its disgusting.

Lower league football all the way,

What i found even more disgusting is that its estimated he is earning 500x more than most poeple in the team.


Title: Beckham
Post by: cavpete on Saturday, January 13, 2007, 08:16:44
Quote from: "Chubbs"
Im sorry but that salary is fucking disgusting,

What i found even more disgusting is that its estimated he is earning 500x more than most poeple in the team.




Yes, I agree what about if he plays like a cunt and the other players do all the work. Would you be chuffed running your ass off for pennies while mr advertising agency just dawdles around but gets paid a players salary in one day. I don't think so.


Title: Beckham
Post by: STFC Village on Saturday, January 13, 2007, 10:15:56
Salary! Oh Ah! Salary! Oh Ah!