Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: arthurhorsfield on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 14:39:31 STATEMENT
During a few days last week of email communication with Mr. Watkins of Clarke Willmott I attempted to ensure a complete public silence regarding any ongoing negotiations. This informal agreement was broken within hours when Mr. Diamandis gave a 45 minute radio interview followed by an extensive newspaper article. It is unusual in the extreme for a recognised law firm to associate themselves with a public statement as inaccurate and misleading as the one posted on the Official Club website, and Consortium lawyers are seeking clarification of their motives and ethics in doing so. There never was any formal agreement reached to maintain confidentiality and the actions of Mr. Diamandis demonstrate the futility of such an agreement even if it had been reached. It is not the intention of the Consortium to enter into any vitriolic or fractious public comment as we see this as potentially damaging to the club and the team. We do however reserve the right to respond to provocative and defamatory personal attacks by way of a dignified correction when absolutely necessary. The consortium will continue to pursue its bid and recognition of the absolute necessity of due diligence in a company which has failed to submit unqualified accounts for many years. We appeal to all fans for patience and calm during this period of provocation and fervently desire that all enjoy a peaceful and Happy Christmas and New Year period blessed with 12 points. MICHAEL WILKS Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 14:44:35 Shine on you crazy diamond
Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Danjackson10 on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 14:53:03 The story continues...
Merry Christmas Michael! Title: Re: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: migzy on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 15:03:11 Quote from: "arthurhorsfield" STATEMENT During a few days last week of email communication with Mr. Watkins of Clarke Willmott I attempted to ensure a complete public silence regarding any ongoing negotiations. This informal agreement was broken within hours when Mr. Diamandis gave a 45 minute radio interview followed by an extensive newspaper article. It is unusual in the extreme for a recognised law firm to associate themselves with a public statement as inaccurate and misleading as the one posted on the Official Club website, and Consortium lawyers are seeking clarification of their motives and ethics in doing so. There never was any formal agreement reached to maintain confidentiality and the actions of Mr. Diamandis demonstrate the futility of such an agreement even if it had been reached. It is not the intention of the Consortium to enter into any vitriolic or fractious public comment as we see this as potentially damaging to the club and the team. We do however reserve the right to respond to provocative and defamatory personal attacks by way of a dignified correction when absolutely necessary. The consortium will continue to pursue its bid and recognition of the absolute necessity of due diligence in a company which has failed to submit unqualified accounts for many years. We appeal to all fans for patience and calm during this period of provocation and fervently desire that all enjoy a peaceful and Happy Christmas and New Year period blessed with 12 points. MICHAEL WILKS I emailed Clarke Willmott to show my disappointment at what I saw as totally unprofessional conduct by associating themselves with such a provocative statement (and therfore not acting in the best interests of their client). I quickly received a very aggressive reply accusing me of libel - I had been very careful to avoid this and know it is totally unfounded. Apparently they have forwarded the email to the club's directors (despite the fact it was a personal email intended only for the recipient) and was told they will consult the board before deciding what action to take! Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Power to people on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 17:50:27 If you can post your email here for all to see if thye are treating you like that, I'm sure the club will publish it in a day or so and post a PR about it. :wink:
Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: millom red on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 18:02:27 Post it Migz. I doubt your sentiments are any different to the rest of a lot of us.....
And for what it's worth Diamond Mike, i think you look like that overweight frog thing from one of the Star War's trilogies that spits when it speaks and smokes cuban cigars. See what your lawyers make of that!Twat face! Millom Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 19:42:21 Quote from: "millom red" Post it Migz. I doubt your sentiments are any different to the rest of a lot of us..... And for what it's worth Diamond Mike, i think you look like that overweight frog thing from one of the Star War's trilogies that spits when it speaks and smokes cuban cigars. See what your lawyers make of that!Twat face! Millom You mean Jabba the Hut? http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/320000/images/_321481_jabbathehutt150.jpg I'm not saying anything :-- Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: migzy on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 20:03:51 Quote from: "millom red" Post it Migz. I doubt your sentiments are any different to the rest of a lot of us..... And for what it's worth Diamond Mike, i think you look like that overweight frog thing from one of the Star War's trilogies that spits when it speaks and smokes cuban cigars. See what your lawyers make of that!Twat face! Millom I told Trevor Watkins that he was making his firm look unprofessional. His response: "You will appreciate that your comments are potentially libellous. My clients will consider this and respond accordingly." I am not going to put my email here because it pissed him off enough when done privately but it certainly was not libellous., Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: yeo on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 20:07:11 well you didnt put your name and address on it did you?
screw 'em Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 20:09:27 Quote from: "migzy" Quote from: "millom red" Post it Migz. I doubt your sentiments are any different to the rest of a lot of us..... And for what it's worth Diamond Mike, i think you look like that overweight frog thing from one of the Star War's trilogies that spits when it speaks and smokes cuban cigars. See what your lawyers make of that!Twat face! Millom I told Trevor Watkins that he was making his firm look unprofessional. His response: "You will appreciate that your comments are potentially libellous. My clients will consider this and respond accordingly." I am not going to put my email here because it pissed him off enough when done privately but it certainly was not libellous., Without wishing to set you up as a martyr to the cause, I'm sure all Town fans would like to hear if Watkins' clients consider your comments libellous. Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: sonic youth on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 20:10:16 can it actually be libel if it's a personal message? i was under the impression libel and slander only applied to comments made in the public domain otherwise it's not defamation of character.
personally i think you're right. Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, December 23, 2006, 20:30:57 It'll never stand up in court.
http://www.urban75.com/Action/libel.html Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: pauld on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 00:13:11 Erm, surely if you had a go at him for being unprofessional, you can't have been libelling his clients anyway? Wouldn't worry migz, it's probably the lawyers' equivalent of "Out of Office Auto Reply" - whereas the rest of us have "Hi, out for Xmas, back early Jan, any problems in the meantime please contact Nozza in Goods Inward", they have "You will appreciate that your comments are potentially libellous. My clients will consider this and respond accordingly."
As it's the season of goodwill, you can borrow my stock answer to this kind of cock: "Dear Sir I have consulted my own legal advisors who are hideously better paid than you are and they have counselled me that you, sir, are in point of fact an ass. Further, that in lieu of adequate recompense for the pain and suffering you have caused me by forcing me to contemplate your odious existence, I should require that, notwithstanding further claims howsoever they may arise and without material prejudice, you go stick your head in a pig at your earliest convenience. Yours Sincerely etc etc PS Mex says you're a cunt" (with thanks to donkey for the head in a pig clause) There you go, that should sort em out (erm, don't actually send it though, obviously) Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: yeo on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 00:15:59 ace
sent! Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 00:28:33 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Merry Christmas Trevor ! Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 00:29:30 I hope you cc'd Mex !
Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: yeo on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 00:42:36 Did I mention I sent it from my special
Paul Davis Trust Stfc I have a personal vendetta against the greek@h otmail.com :D Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Fred Elliot on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 00:53:27 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:
Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: millom red on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 02:34:21 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "millom red" Post it Migz. I doubt your sentiments are any different to the rest of a lot of us..... And for what it's worth Diamond Mike, i think you look like that overweight frog thing from one of the Star War's trilogies that spits when it speaks and smokes cuban cigars. See what your lawyers make of that!Twat face! Millom You mean Jabba the Hut? http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/320000/images/_321481_jabbathehutt150.jpg I'm not saying anything :-- That's the one Reg, but with a cigar, and wearing a lounge coat. Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: migzy on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 12:07:33 Quote from: "pauld" Erm, surely if you had a go at him for being unprofessional, you can't have been libelling his clients anyway? Wouldn't worry migz, it's probably the lawyers' equivalent of "Out of Office Auto Reply" - whereas the rest of us have "Hi, out for Xmas, back early Jan, any problems in the meantime please contact Nozza in Goods Inward", they have "You will appreciate that your comments are potentially libellous. My clients will consider this and respond accordingly." As it's the season of goodwill, you can borrow my stock answer to this kind of cock: "Dear Sir I have consulted my own legal advisors who are hideously better paid than you are and they have counselled me that you, sir, are in point of fact an ass. Further, that in lieu of adequate recompense for the pain and suffering you have caused me by forcing me to contemplate your odious existence, I should require that, notwithstanding further claims howsoever they may arise and without material prejudice, you go stick your head in a pig at your earliest convenience. Yours Sincerely etc etc PS Mex says you're a cunt" (with thanks to donkey for the head in a pig clause) There you go, that should sort em out (erm, don't actually send it though, obviously) I know damn well it wasn't libel - lawyers can't stand it when you have a pop at them (I should know -I become one of the evil bastards in September). I mentioned a little bit about Diamandis - I pointed out that he has committed criminal offences and that perhaps he could get better legal advice because at the moment he seems to think that he's done nothing wrong. That pissed him off a bit. Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 12:33:37 all this legal stuff is beginning to frazel my brain a bit now i must admit. so what the hell is going on with all this now? :?
Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: migzy on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 13:12:03 Quote from: "Reg Smeeton" Quote from: "migzy" Quote from: "millom red" Post it Migz. I doubt your sentiments are any different to the rest of a lot of us..... And for what it's worth Diamond Mike, i think you look like that overweight frog thing from one of the Star War's trilogies that spits when it speaks and smokes cuban cigars. See what your lawyers make of that!Twat face! Millom I told Trevor Watkins that he was making his firm look unprofessional. His response: "You will appreciate that your comments are potentially libellous. My clients will consider this and respond accordingly." I am not going to put my email here because it pissed him off enough when done privately but it certainly was not libellous., Without wishing to set you up as a martyr to the cause, I'm sure all Town fans would like to hear if Watkins' clients consider your comments libellous. I've always wanted to be a martyr to the cause. I was going to go to Iraq and blow myself up but this now seems a bit easier. Plus, it is for a cause much more important than any of this Allah bollocks. Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: millom red on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 18:54:49 Ive heard that blowing yourself up hurts a bit.
Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: herthab on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 19:08:01 Quote from: "millom red" Ive heard that blowing yourself hurts a bit. The operation to remove a couple of ribs would be a bit painful! Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: Simon Pieman on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 19:34:48 Quote from: "Rich" all this legal stuff is beginning to frazel my brain a bit now i must admit. so what the hell is going on with all this now? :? The consortium still want to seek 'due diligence' - the process of researching and valuing the business (STFC). The consortium have had great difficulty in obtaining this information and so cannot put a price on the club i.e. nobody knows what the hell the club's financial position is and if there are any skeletons in the closet so to speak. The bid has been rubbished publicly and the lawyer is associated with this. Furthermore, there is a statement on the official site. This could be deemed as unprofessional by some people, especially if an informal agreement was made not to release information publicly. Basically the bid seems to be in a catch-22 situation. Diamandis claims that Power has the financial information and it hasn't changed 'much' since then. It may or may not have...but without obtaining this info it is difficult to table a 'serious' bid and satisfy the club's demands. Title: Statement regarding comments by Mr Watkins on OS. Post by: donkey on Sunday, December 24, 2006, 20:56:34 Quote from: "simon pieman" Diamandis claims that Power has the financial information and it hasn't changed 'much' since then. Well, we know it's worsened by £750,000, at least! :shock: Merry Christmas to all revolutionaries, see you Tuesday Donkey |