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STATEMENT of Clarification  

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I would like to clear up some confusion which has arisen regarding the issue of a formal offer to SSW during the month of November.

On 2nd November I met with SSW at the Bear Hotel Hungerford and during a pleasant and productive discussion, I outlined the basis of a possible deal which my consortium would be prepared to provide in the form of a formal offer to purchase the shareholding of James Wills in the holding company. Prior to the meeting I had been asked by SSW in a previous phone call to provide evidence that my backers had the financial means to support any proposed offer.

I took with me a letter signed by the Head of Private Banking for Lloyds TSB, the letter was read and accepted by SSW and broad discussions commenced. I cannot reveal details of the discussion for obvious commercial reasons but the result was that SSW asked for more details to be included in a formal proposal document. We subsequently agreed by telephone to meet for a second time at the Hilton Hotel M4 Newbury on the 11th November 2006.

At the meeting I presented a non disclosure agreement binding both parties to confidentiality, a proposal document containing the basis of the deal we had discussed previously and an exclusivity document to allow for due diligence to take place. It became clear as we proceeded that SSW was unable to arrange for signature of the NDA and that we were unable to move to the next phase of submission of the proposal document. A discussion took place as to why this should be so and it was agreed that SSW would seek legal advice and revert to me in a few days.

After a number of calls it became clear that we would not be able to proceed in the discreet and confidential manner I had proposed. Martin Starnes proceeded to make public statements regarding the veracity of documentation and other matters. During the period 12 to 21 November a number of calls where made to SSW by Bill Powers business partner in an attempt to break the impasse by way of a private meeting between the parties; on the 30th November a letter was sent to Mr. Emmel signed by SSW and James Wills (arrived 4th December) stating that they were not prepared to meet and that any proposal should be made to Trevor Watkins of Clarke Wllmott. A formal proposal was duly submitted following further legal advice on 19th December.

At no stage has the Consortium or Bill Power sought to publicise any details of what we hoped would be confidential and constructive negotiations, it has been necessary on two occasions to publicly correct erroneous and frankly disruptive club statements and it is hoped that all parties can now move forward without the need for unnecessary public comment.

Michael Wilks

yeah and like I said on thisis, a fans consortium should take the time to publish statements on all outlets where info is gained by fans of STFC, not on the 95% in favour forum and leave it to the rest of us to spread the word.

It's lazy, it's half arsed and it does nothing to boost confidence or support in the cause for a fans takeover of the club. Wtf you going to be like when running the club  :D

I do however still support it.  8)

Just as abit of a wind up...........the club do this too as they only post on the official site, which to read you have to sign up and get bombarded with crap and junk mail. So really they should post their propaganda everywhere too.

Regardless I know what you are saying, but it has got around now and that is the main thing

I have louavo

Berniman will vouch for that

Even though I got slated to fuck for doing it

http://www.redarmyloudnproud.org.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3881&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

This was the cross posted to thisis and I got slated

 :?

glosrob, no problem with you, but this stinks quite frankly. I do not agree that i get bombarded with loads of junk email as a result of being subscribed to the official site. (quite the fucking opposite actually!! no surprise there though eh  :soapy tit wank: )

The communciation on MOS is either a cheap attempt at bolstering already strong support or a half arsed attempt at communicating to the fans, or both.

It does nothing to make me feel any better about the whole thing. There are many outlets for STFC fans, forget the moronic view of few swindonians, and as such, all deserve the same information. At the same time.

That is what I have tried to to Louavo

 I fail to see the reference between your post on l&p, and todays posts made about M Wilkes latest statement. I am however, under the influence.  8)

shut up Louavo who said you could post on here anyway? :mrgreen:

fine. I shall leave now.  :-))(

8)

The official site apart from Sturrocks updates is a waste of time.

Maybe a distribution network needs to be in place to ensure everyone gets any info and statements, Fred/Mike could be an idea to stop any confusion?

As long as I get to see it then I'm happy really.

I've trawled through so much shit that I wouldn't want to miss anything vital but I think in all honesty my loyalties lie firmly with the consortium, the club frankly have the PR and customer service skills of a school kid on an ASBO

meh

Information that was issued from the Trust/Consortium was cross posted to L & P AND Thisis.

Any information that I can pass out I do pass out so quite frankly your argument does not stack up.

Mikes statement was only issued earlier tonight mate.

Give us chance

 :roll:

looks like you are the distribution network then Fred in which case keep up the good work

Its fair comment and it is one that has been discussed this evening.

We do need a mechanism to get salient points out to the fans, but we will never please everybody Glos.

At the moment it is down to individuals to cross post and cross cross post if you see what I mean.

meh back at you mr fred. Thats a bit like saying " you only brought your car in earlier today mate, do you seriously expect it back now?"

Are you a proffessional? Scuse me spelling like.  :wink:

not disagreeing with that assumption at all.  8)

Yeah that's fine with me, just maybe a way to eliminate a few more negative posts as on thisisstfc I think a few posters are scraping around to be critical of anything

When the previous information was released onto thisis, all I got was a slating.

However that by no way means that it should not have been posted and it will continue to be posted.

good good good, come on fred, you're a smart bloke, we all realise what is going to happen when this gets posted cross forums, especially thisis.....

but if you want transparency.......and trust........


you gotta be prepared to do the dirty work too....... :wink:

no-one could ever accuse the consortium of being a closed book then could they?

I think thisis has a small population of mindless morons on it whose only goal in life is to be obstructive and belittle anyone that takes and active role to encourage change.

There's some good posters on there don't get me wrong, but also some I would love to whack round the head with my keyboard

gotta be prepared for it....

eventually, as they say, the truth will come out and people will realise, just dont give any fucker the chance to point a finger.

Don't read it, don't like it, don't visit.

IT IS SHITE.

thisis is total crap. i never go on it!

I try to but it's like the forbidden fruit, i always get lured into reading it..........doesn't help that this site and others get firewalled at work whereas thisis makes it through so when bored at work I find myself having a look at it

But that's what I am saying

I have done and will continue to do

of course, but what do you suggest, dilute public info, so that only 'tolerant' forums get the info?

everybody that cares, one way or the other, about STFC, must, at all times, be included.

When the info becomes second hand, through an individual posters good will, immediately, you have alienated further, the already suspicious.

I agree but a handful of negative posters should not preclude information being posted to the many who aren't Rich

this isnt about you fred, personally, but the latest info was not readily available to all was it?

In all fairness Fred is linked with the consortium so perhaps give him some title like bowdens got at the club..........Tusts PR Forum Delegate or something like that, then it's official  :D

In the climate at the moment as soon as a statement is issued onto one forum then it is immediately second hand.

Like I said we will never please everyone louavo

I didnt know that and was not in any way looking to target an individual.

Oh come on Martin.

Beeb Swindon did the Diamandis story today. It was an exclusive. The Adver didn't have it.

You can't go slagging off the Adver because of that.

What I suggest is that the Trust continues to give regular updates and bulletins via email (like they do already) to paid up members.

If stuff appears on forums then fine. Everybody reposts and cross posts naturally anyway.

will you not concede the point, do we need to look at posting times etc to clarify. Like I said, nothing personal. Just a need to be spot on, all the way.  8)

Anyway I can't believe this thread has dragged on for 3 pages long, it must be late and people are tired so I'm out of here.

Fred will continue to spread the gospel I'm sure

Sorry Alan but I thought we were covering the M Wilkes statement.

Each and every time I have made any statements (including tonights clarification ) they have first been posted on the Official Trust Website, with the exception of the first open letter I posted to Bill Power in September.  I posted that on MOS because that was the only forum I was a member of.  In an effort to ensure a balanced debate (so that fans can make up their own minds) I try not to post for the sake of it but confine myself to relevant and factual information.

It is my fervent wish that all strands of opinion are reflected in an open and constructive manner and wherever possible we should remember that we are all fans of the same club.

I hope this clarifies matters.

Mike

Yes you are.

It's an analogy about media (and information) streams.

I will................but got some hefty reading on Football League Regulations to do first

Good man. And good luck mate.  :thumbs:

See, you're all starting to take things personally, at least thats how I feel anyway.

Anyone that knows me, knows that I want the best for STFC, I was just annoyed at the fact that info was only published on one outlet for stfc fans by a body that wants to take control of the club. Is that the way to be conducting your business Mr Wilkes?

No.

not really Mike, sorry.

It reads

I am a fan of the consortium and STFC but only register with one forum in the hope that my disciples or any other latch ons will spread my word or me.

I bow to your good work Fred. I hope you can see my concern in a non personal way.

I will probably share a beer with you at the next away day, you know that.

I really cant see what the problem is Louavo,I really cant .I mean seriously deep down does it really make a single jot of difference? I think you're wine addled :mrgreen:

You are obviously upset by the fact that I dont have access to every avenue of media coverage, sadly althought it doesnt feel like it lately I do have a day job and a family.  If I can I promise I will make every effort to post on every forum, if I fail please dont think it is a lack of effort and dont take it personally.  Mike

Thats cool louavo

Points need to be raised if people are not happy and we will try and improve on them

I respect that and that is what its all about surely ?

nah.......I think yeovils right actually. I need to join AA  :oops:

Dont forget your coat.

From trying to promote the Orange Revolution stuff I sympathise with Mike.  I was aware that if I bombarded each forum with pleas to support the Orange rev. that people would soon get pissed off.

I admit that I had hoped that word would get round and someone would send a link from one forum to another.  Like Mike says we all (well most of us) do have day jobs and posting similar posts on each and every forum can be very time consuming.

Apologies if I have missed the point on this debate as I've only been able to skim through it.

Yeah why haven'y you implanted wireless internet connections into the heads of anyone who's ever attended a Swindon game that will allow you to beam your statements instantly to all of us!

You lazy cunts you're not taking this seriously!

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Why did this thread get so long? The statement was only released yesterday evening for god's sake.

My point exactly cookie

And most people read other messageboards anyway

I don't see a problem with Mike posting on MOS and the Trust site, there will always be people that will copy on to other forums.

If Mike posted on every single forum then I expect he would never have any time for the family (although they must be very understanding due to the amount of time he must dedicate to all things stfc)

Whats going on here then

nothing for you to see here, move along