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Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 11:45:10
Hopefully Kingy can persuade Mr Burley to let him stay for another month.  Come on George you know you want to.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 11:51:46
Quote from: "janaage77"
Hopefully Kingy can persuade Mr Burley to let him stay for another month.  Come on George you know you want to.
he best do! he cries if holmes doesnt play!


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:08:20
When he does go back I hope Kingy and Harford play Howard out on the left, and tell him to stay there, rather than floating inside as he likes to.

Just having the option of Holmes patience staying out on the touch line has proved a real asset, surely even Howard can see that.  It's a case of when Holmes goes back home, Howard is going to have to fit in to the current system whether he likes it or not, because there is no way he deserves to play in the centre at the moment.

Just hope he has the humility to get on with the job he is given, when needs be.  It will be a sad day when Holmes leaves, hope he makes the most of a possible 3rd month and comes up with a couple of goals, and a few assists.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: le god cuervo on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:09:45
i thought he had already agreed to stay for a third month ??


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:12:22
Not according to the adver today. King is still in discussions with Burley.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:15:18
why do you want howard on the left jan? he sucks this season!


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:16:48
Whoa there sparky, I think that was Kinky Tom who said that not me!!


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:18:52
Quote from: "janaage77"
Whoa there sparky, I think that was Kinky Tom who said that not me!!
oh yeh sorry mate! i didnt look! because mr kinky doesnt have a picture i thought it was the end of your last post so thanx for pointing that out


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:27:41
howard would be ok if he does what kinky tom said. the fact is unless he gets the ball he likes to drift inside. also, if he's not getting the ball he becomes the lazy/selfish player he's been this season


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:30:07
he needs to get his ass out of mcdonalds and start playing football!


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:32:40
I'm not saying that I'd ideally want him out there, but when Holmes does leave Howard will inevitably come back into the team - so I'm just hoping he is put out on the left where he will do the least damage to us, and hope also that he is told to stay wide (pardon the pun) ala Holmes.

Just preparing for his inevitable re-instatement to the starting 11, and given the choice of Smith wide left with Howard in the middle, or Howard wide left with Smith in the middle then I know which I would rather.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:34:54
why not play smith on the left and mig in the centre?


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:38:01
why not phone up Andy King and make the team selection for him?


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 12:39:10
Quote from: "simon pieman"
why not phone up Andy King and make the team selection for him?
im sure that would result in a better performance since king's selection is pretty damn poor!


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Dazzza on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 13:31:22
After this final extension to the short term loan I'm hoping Burley will agree to let him go on a season long for the rest of the season, perhaps that's the thinking at this point by leaving the shortest possible period remaining.

Have to agree with Tom, Howard has to go back out on the left.  Every winger thinks they are a brilliant central midfielder Beckham and our very own Sammy Igoe being two such examples.  Something to do with seeing more of the ball in and having more options in the middle, but not realising that they have to sometimes defend.

Will be a big loss when he goes.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: strooood on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 15:13:40
we cant have any more long term loan deals because they have to be finalised by deadline day. 3 months are the longest you're allowed without it being a season long. so this will definately be his last month, if he's allowed to stay


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 15:30:03
Dex is right, didn't someone discover this on FM2005 or something.  Holmesy's either off today or in a month.  Gutted.  You never know though ol' BH might be like a new man after a month training with Harford.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 15:34:21
it's before dec 31st apparently


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Tails on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 16:19:43
You give Brian Howard way too much stick, I bet he could out run the lot of you.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 16:30:32
Quote from: "Tails"
You give Brian Howard way too much stick, I bet he could out run the lot of you.


really? how much are you willing to bet? the scales don't lie - nobody said he couldn't run fast. then again, we aren't professional footballers and people dont pay £23 to go and see us play (i hope not anyway).


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 16:43:04
Quote from: "Tails"
You give Brian Howard way too much stick, I bet he could out run the lot of you.

Yes, I expect he could but that would not necessarily make him a specimen of physical perfection.

That's like me saying, "Oooh, Matt Hewlett's rubbish" and you saying "But he's miles better than you OST!" Yes he is, but it doesn't prove anything does it??


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 17:00:06
I agree OST, I doubt Howard could out run me in a full on sprint, but that is beside the point coz he'd take the piss out of me if we played that nutmeg game in Holland.

I often wondered how much better a team made up of Talia, Drysdale, Mark Robinson, Hewlett etc would do against a team of me and my mates, none of us are any good  really, but I'd like to think we could have given them a run for their money.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 17:12:37
Quote from: "Kinky Tom"
I agree OST, I doubt Howard could out run me in a full on sprint, but that is beside the point coz he'd take the piss out of me if we played that nutmeg game in Holland.

I often wondered how much better a team made up of Talia, Drysdale, Mark Robinson, Hewlett etc would do against a team of me and my mates, none of us are any good  really, but I'd like to think we could have given them a run for their money.


They would of course rip you to shreds unless you and your mates were all very decent players.  I played once against an old bloke (he was 60 something I guess) who had played for Swindon about 40 years before and he was so good it was unbelievable. He ran rings round all of us.  Any player who has played at any level where you get payed to play (as opposed to you paying your £1 subs on a Sunday morning for the privilige of gracing Penhill Pitch 12) has my utmost respect.

When we say a certain Town player is crap we all know (well most of us do) it is relative.   Saying "Ooh, he's better than any of you lot" is a dumb ass thing to say.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Man of Steel on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 18:41:19
Quote from: "Kinky Tom"
I'm not saying that I'd ideally want him out there, but when Holmes does leave Howard will inevitably come back into the team - so I'm just hoping he is put out on the left where he will do the least damage to us, and hope also that he is told to stay wide (pardon the pun) ala Holmes.

Just preparing for his inevitable re-instatement to the starting 11, and given the choice of Smith wide left with Howard in the middle, or Howard wide left with Smith in the middle then I know which I would rather.


Why can't we stick Nicho in dukeys fullback position and stick dukey on left of midfiled?

He's got more disipline and desire than Howard nowadays?


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: walrus on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 21:47:11
Quote from: "Gawa"
Quote from: "Kinky Tom"
I'm not saying that I'd ideally want him out there, but when Holmes does leave Howard will inevitably come back into the team - so I'm just hoping he is put out on the left where he will do the least damage to us, and hope also that he is told to stay wide (pardon the pun) ala Holmes.

Just preparing for his inevitable re-instatement to the starting 11, and given the choice of Smith wide left with Howard in the middle, or Howard wide left with Smith in the middle then I know which I would rather.


Why can't we stick Nicho in dukeys fullback position and stick dukey on left of midfiled?

He's got more disipline and desire than Howard nowadays?


Dear God no!  Duke isn't attacking enough, may work away from home but at home we need someone who's going to skin fullbacks.  Holmes is alright, but I prefer Howard - has more goals in him, more moments of brilliance, but also way more moments of sheer mediocrity, making him unpopular with fans.

And trust me he isn't fat, I've seen him topless  :wink:


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, February 23, 2005, 21:55:09
Quote from: "OOH!  SHAUN TAYLOR"
Quote from: "Kinky Tom"
I agree OST, I doubt Howard could out run me in a full on sprint, but that is beside the point coz he'd take the piss out of me if we played that nutmeg game in Holland.

I often wondered how much better a team made up of Talia, Drysdale, Mark Robinson, Hewlett etc would do against a team of me and my mates, none of us are any good  really, but I'd like to think we could have given them a run for their money.


They would of course rip you to shreds unless you and your mates were all very decent players.  I played once against an old bloke (he was 60 something I guess) who had played for Swindon about 40 years before and he was so good it was unbelievable. He ran rings round all of us.  Any player who has played at any level where you get payed to play (as opposed to you paying your £1 subs on a Sunday morning for the privilige of gracing Penhill Pitch 12) has my utmost respect.

When we say a certain Town player is crap we all know (well most of us do) it is relative.   Saying "Ooh, he's better than any of you lot" is a dumb ass thing to say.


Oh yeah, I dont doubt they'd beat us, but just to see what makes a scout go over the Mark Robinsons of this world and say "hey I really recon you've got what it takes son" would be facinating.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 24, 2005, 00:38:43
signed for another month. get in!

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~625463,00.html


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Ben Wah Balls on Thursday, February 24, 2005, 00:48:00
Good work Andy :king  :)


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Dazzza on Thursday, February 24, 2005, 01:08:32
Cracking news!

Fingers crossed that when this deal expires we can then hopefully re-loan him back from Derby.

Provided I haven't missed anyone here by my calculations we have only used five of our eight max short term loan deals this season.

Yeates
Mitchell
Holmes
Proctor
Henderson

Jenkins doesn't count as the deal became permanent and Slabber (again I believe) is classed as a long term deal.

FA laws state that you can loan the same player over the course of a season for up to 93 days at a time.

A second deal should then cover Holmes to the end of the season and PO's.

Not sure where Derby would stand on that though.  Hopefully George will be willing to do the same again, an initial short term effort followed by extensions with a re-call if necessary.


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, February 24, 2005, 01:10:37
i think you might be right there dazzza man. would be good news. if play-offs were in touching distant i think Burley could loan him out again, even if it's just to create more interest in the youngster


Title: Lee Holmes Loan - Expires Today
Post by: reeves4england on Thursday, February 24, 2005, 17:22:40
I think that Howard would work in the team so long as he did stick to the touchline. Having said that igoe is even worse. His man ran in from the wing towards the back post and Igoe was wandering round aimlessly in the centre of defence. Then every time Jenkins got the ball there was acres of space on the right wing begging for Igoe to be there but he was in the middle somewhere!