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Thought i would post this poll, with todays comments from Mike Bowden saying he wants to move the club out of town and with the board basically telling the trust and consortium to get lost are you starting to lose respect for Seton Wills?

He's a man who has done alot for the club and saved us on a number of ocassions but surely the best thing for him to do would be to hand over to the trust and either stay on as president or something or walk away.

If he loves the club as much as he says then he needs to do the right thing and let the consortium take over, the longer he lets these idiots run the club and the more he lets idiots say they want to move us out of town then the more he is going to be disliked by the fans.

The club clearly cannot even afford a £100k CVA payment so there's no way in hell that they are going to be able to afford the £900K payment in June so why carry on with things the way they are!!!

It's obvious that the board don't want to deal with the trust and have no intention of listening to what they have to say!!

I agree - This board have decided they don't care a jot about the fans - appointing idiots onto the board to join them - Bowden and Holt (AGAIN!)

Its pretty clear that Seton Wills is on THEIR side and not ours so respect has been lost until he makes his viewpoint clear.

Question for the Trust - If THIS board decides they arent going anywhere - what can we do? apart from not go and I dont want to do that as it might kill the club!

Good post fatbury, bringing Bob "I can't keep my mouth shut" Holt back is a complete joke he was forced to resign and within weeks he's back at the club, what other employer would do something like that?!!

Bowden seems like another Diamandis, I'm losing respect for Seton Wills, he should stop listening to Diamandis and the other fools and listen to the fans, especially if he's got the club's best interests at heart!

He's always said that he's a big Swindon Town fan, he's not showing that at all, all he's showing is that he's just as bad as the other idiots on the board and something really has to be done about it before this club dies!!!

Well if the board arnt going anywhere we will have to force them out and do everything we can, the orange revolution is a good idea and we will get our point across and i back it all the way, however if that doesn't work then we do need to go behind the arkells after every game in big numbers and force them out, thats a last resort but it's something i think we are going to need to do unfortunately!!

I started to lose respect for him back in 2002ish when he first had a go at the Trust and threatened to pull out.

I do recognize that he has put a hell of a lot into the club to keep us going mind.

Agree he's done alot for the club, but it's like he uses that against us, it's like he says i've kept us alive a few times so stop slagging me off!!

He thinks he's untouchable for what he's done in the past, that rubbish doesn't work with us fans anymore, all the fans will turn against him eventually the way things are going!!

The only way he will keep being respected by all of us fans is if he hands over control to the consortium otherwise he will be hated as much as the other idiots on the board!!

All that crap that him and his son came out with a few month's ago "keep slagging us off and we will pull out", let's keep slagging them off and maybe they will disappear.

Oh hang on a minute that will be another of their lie's soapy tit wank, like the one where they said if someone comes in with money and can take the club forward they will immediately resign and walk away and now it's suddenly changed to "we're not looking to sell the club"

What a bunch of prats!!!!

Bet he has taken more money out recently than he has ever put in. Then he reinvests and appears "the saviour" every time when all the time he is only putting back the money he has taken out in the first place (or his colourful advisor)

Don't talk daft bart, he's put in way more than we've had in this season by far.

That said I feel contradiction and pointless attacks on potential saviours of the club are beginning to make me dislike him.  His role in the history of STFC is undoubted, but now he has the chance to leave head held reasonably high and see a strong future for the good of the club, which he allegedly loves!  The longer it goes on the more hatred and resentment will develop, and all dignity will be inevitably lost.

Dont believe everything you read in the papers, no doubt Sir Seton has put in money but no where near the figures you read, I for one have no respect for him anymore, leave now Seton you and your chronies are no longer wanted  :nono:

I respect that he has put a lot of money in the club and we should be grateful for that.

I also respect he also has the business sense of a small newt and is seemingly as thick as two short planks.

Bear in mind these statements come via the Wills family business adviser, they probably do not even know about half the statements or if they do get told a watered down version.

Seton is obviously a gulible bloke and easily pursuaded

Do you think Seton / James / Gillian read the internet or the adver or even listen to RS ?

Why do you think that SSW never stands up in public to speak ?

The only one in that family with brains is Alice who is currently working for a premiership club I think in the commercial dept (or something like that) I beleive.

This is going to have to get a lot worse before WE the fans can get OUR club back unfortunetly.

I'd actually be interested to see his net loss at the club.

Parkin and Fallon's money went more or less into his pocket so he made back 750k at least in lats year.

Id love to ask someone where Bills money went  :wink:

you can, but you won't get a sensible answer

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Oh I can't fucking wait !!!!!!!!

ask then you mug

:shock:

Well Mr Elliott they had a very expensive few months, these bar bills don't pay for themsleves you know

And of course there was that consoltansy fee for Diamandis bringing Power & Wise to the club  :soapy tit wank:

If it wasn't for the Wills family we wouldn't have a football club to support. I think it should be more about getting Angry if you are for a takeover rather than lose respect. Everyone including the Trust has respect for what he has done for the club.

Respect for what he has done yes but respect for what hes doing no, he may have saved our club on numerous occasions but hes going to kill us as a club or move us out of Swindon, no interest in franchise football, patience is wearing thin on Sir Seton, very thin  :?

 The Trust is its membership.....has this issue been put to a vote.  No.   The Trust Board may hold that position, but the rank and file may not comrade.

 Don't end up being viewed as a revisionist lapdog.

  It has now reached the point where SSW has to be seen as culpable for the present mess and cannot be detached from blame.

Is the interview with Mike Bowden on t'internet?  He works fast doesn't he - been here ten minutes and apparently wants to relocate the club already.  Does he have to commute too far or something and wants it moved nearer to him?

What was said regarding the Trust and consortium?  Do they not realise that telling 10%+ of their regular paying public to get lost is not a good idea.  Oh I forgot who does the accounts.............

  If the appointment of Bowden was anything other than confrontational, he could very easily have come in and said, "I'm a new man" "There have been mistakes in the past, but we'll now try and put that right by taking a Trust elected person onto the Board".   But no....its b/s straight from the off. What's in it for this fella? Surely he must realise the current regime have no credibility with their paying customers.

with starnes they tried to get the fans onside first but the puppeteer didn't even bother with that token effort this time around.

tick tock tick tock...

Bowden can FUCK OFF! this club will not be moved!

half time chant of "we shall not be moved"?

That is exactly what the Trust is here for Reg ................

To front the opinions of the majority of it's members, and if thats what the majority concensus is then the trust need to action that, whether I as a board member agree with it or not.

For example, I have posted my own personal thoughts in another thread (as a fan) and whilst I am extremely fucked off at this moment there is more to this than meets the eye, and whilst SSW may or not be privvy to the shennanegins, as the major shareholder he at least should be AWARE of what is going on behind the scenes.

If he isn't - that is wrong

If he is - that is wrong


Where does that leave him ????

I lost respect for Wills years ago,sure he kept us afloat but would we really need to be "kept afloat" if he could see what is happening under his nose.He has held the club and supporters to ransom for to long and Im sick of it.

errrmmm

I totally agree YR  :shock:

Can't see anything about this on t'interweb ... When/where was this said about the proposed ground move?

Like has been said before, they can royally fuck off if they think we're moving anywhere.

think its on STFC world as a radio interview

Cool - thanks Rich. I'll have a look ...

Nah - only one there is Boyd Butler ...

Did SSW really get involved with the Club because he's a life long fan?
As a fan, how can he countenence the shit that's been going on?

I fully understand his need for advisors. If I came into a lot of money (I'm talking millions here) I would put a lot into STFC, but, due to my lack of business nous, I would also employ advisors...................................................................................

TO FUCKING ADVISE ME!!!!! I wouldn't bury my fucking head in the sand and allow them carte blanche to fuck my club up.

As for his son............ He sounds to me like some rich, spoiled, never had to work for anything, petulant, arrogant chinless wonder, who treats fans like something unpleasant he's just stood in.

Yes they've put in a lot of money. Why? Because they could afford it and they wanted to help the club they 'love'?

Or, was it because they thought there was a chance of making a few quid on redevelopment?

If it was for purely selfless reasons, thanks very much, but by recent actions you've shown you're unable to take the club any further, so sell to the consortium.

If it was to make a few quid, hopefully the consortium will offer you enough to go gracefully (Although that is beginning to look very unlikely).

Either way your position at the club is now (In my view) untenable.

A few weeks ago, even through all the turmoil, there were not many fans who would say anything against SSW. Now?

My friend

There is a major difference between "putting money in" and offering Land Registry charges on your land/property to secure third party funding, that you would need repaying with monies coming into the club.


Let's not loose sight of that fact shall we ?????

Not sure whether this is an over reaction but cant help feeling like alongside the Orange Revolution that from my seat in the Arkells I want to get chants started of 'theres only one Bill Power' I know chanting wasnt something we really wanted to involve at this stage but maybe before, half time and after would be better but its time we got the wind up them, they will not take OUR football club from this town, they will have one hell of a fight on there hands then  :evil:

My main points still stand Fred. They are now unable, or unwilling to invest further in the club and appear to be waiting until such time as they can recoup any investment they have already made.

If they truly had the clubs best interests at heart, they would be making potential investors welcome, instead of slagging them (And the Trust) off at every available opportunity.

P.S. I've already said I don't have any business nous, stop confusing me with technicalities!!! :)

I wont mate

http://www.thetownend.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=16704&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=60

I cant put it in any plainer English than that !!!!

 :wink:

Aha!! Now I understand!!

If you're right Fred ( And lets face it, you know a damn sight more than me!) Do you think all of us wearing something orange to the games is really gonna dislodge these clowns?

Or is something a little more direct going to be needed?

I have read all the forums for ages but have only posted on thisisstfc because of the sometimes nasty replies on here to posts by new people. Having been a true fan for about the last 35 years I've seen it all , this club has been poorly run for as long as I can remember ,if SSW has been in the background all this time why has he let it be run by people who in the vast majority are incompetant ? Its time the fans made our voices count , as for SSW putting his money in think about this.
We as fans watch around 30 home games a season paying an average of say £15 that equals £450 a season roughly x that by an average home attendance of 5000 = £2.25 million a season x that by say the last 10 years it means we've put in 22.5 million as fans roughly so its time for the revolution.

I think weshould wait and see how Saturday goes. We have a number of home matches coming up to put the pressure on these 'people', and it's amazing what fans can do.

amen

Welcome and good post

Feel free to post as much as you want

I could not agree more 69 (69  :? )

Plus merchandise, food, drink and leaving your coat at to the game you could probably add another 10%  to that.

We're nice here, honest. Nice to see a long-time fan hopping on the townend.com wagon :)

We can be pretty cuntish sometimes. It's Whits' fault.