Thetownend.com

25% => The Boardroom => Topic started by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:21:39



Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:21:39
If the board are still dragging their heels in a couple of weeks time, should we stage a mass demonstration after the game?

Applaud the players of the pitch, then let fucking rip!!!!!!!!

Not outside, like the small number who helped oust King, but in the ground.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:22:45
Dont be silly. they are clearly still going to be in charge by that point, even if talks go well.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:24:23
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Dont be silly. they are clearly still going to be in charge by that point, even if talks go well.


I meant if they are still not willing to enter into constructive talks.

But you knew that anyway!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: rockincockinrobin on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:26:44
I think that if the board are not willing to listen or do not take the consortium seriously then we should do mass protests after every home game until they go!!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:33:21
Of course there should be a demonstration at that game and all subsequent games until those mother fuckers sling their hooks.  Why would anyone not want there to be a demonstration??????


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Maverick on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:33:29
Wow that will really help ...... all the players hearing the discontent (and reading of the protests in the media).... and then the board throw their toys out of the pram with no deal done ... remind me again how that helps?

Somehow we need to find a way to get them talking to people so that investment/takeovers can actually be a reality .... I sense perhaps that this is not the way to make it work.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:35:38
i think we should wait a while tbh. the Rovers game is too soon. it will take time for any takeover to happen so lets be patient


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Maverick on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:37:19
Perhaps if people genuinely want to protest then there are other ways to do it ..... protest peacefully outside people's business addresses (away from the players) or send mass mail to each director .. they will have to open them all to establish what they are.

These are ways to protest peacefully without affecting the team, and cannot be seen as overly aggressive.

I am sure the furtive minds on here can think of other suggestions too!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:37:31
Quote from: "Maverick"
Wow that will really help ...... all the players hearing the discontent (and reading of the protests in the media).....


   Watching some of the shit we have to put up with, from those who claim to be professional footballers, I'd be up for including a few of these in a demonstration.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:38:04
Quote from: "Maverick"
Wow that will really help ...... all the players hearing the discontent (and reading of the protests in the media).... and then the board throw their toys out of the pram with no deal done ... remind me again how that helps?

Somehow we need to find a way to get them talking to people so that investment/takeovers can actually be a reality .... I sense perhaps that this is not the way to make it work.


Which is why I said applaud the players off the pitch and them start demonstrating.

You ask how it would help? I would imagine that if enough people let them know they weren't wanted, they might, finally take the hint.

Or we could sit back, do nothing and just post on internet forums when we're unhappy with they way our club is run.

And how does that help?


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Maverick on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:38:44
After Saturday Reg that would not leave many being ignored!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:40:34
Quote from: "Maverick"
Perhaps if people genuinely want to protest then there are other ways to do it ..... protest peacefully outside people's business addresses (away from the players) or send mass mail to each director .. they will have to open them all to establish what they are.

These are ways to protest peacefully
without affecting the team, and cannot be seen as overly aggressive.

I am sure the furtive minds on here can think of other suggestions too!


I wasn't advocating baseball bats and molotov cocktails!!!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Maverick on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:41:40
herthab .... any protest gets pounced on by the media and frequently exaggerated ... the players also have a  warm down on the pitch after a game ... and then leave from under the Arkells  ... not sure how they could avoid hearing/seeing any demo


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:43:32
Quote from: "Maverick"
Wow that will really help ...... all the players hearing the discontent (and reading of the protests in the media).... and then the board throw their toys out of the pram with no deal done ... remind me again how that helps?

Somehow we need to find a way to get them talking to people so that investment/takeovers can actually be a reality .... I sense perhaps that this is not the way to make it work.


you overestimate modern footballers, i sincerely doubt they give a toss what happens at the club. if anything, they're likely to welcome new owners as they might not only get paid on time but perhaps get a payrise.

it's perfectly possible to support the team on the pitch completely whilst illustrating dissatisfaction with the management off the pitch. booing a player off the pitch and calling for the board to put up or clear out is entirely different and couldn't be further apart.

however, we first need to attempt to get the board engaging in sensible and constructive discussion before any protests. i believe that any major displays should be left until after christmas/new year to at least show the club that the fans have some respect left for SSW and allow him to leave with grace and his head held high.

the reality is that regardless of protests or not, the forthcoming months probably won't be pretty and unrest amongst fans will be commonplace.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:47:09
Quote from: "Maverick"
herthab .... any protest gets pounced on by the media and frequently exaggerated ... the players also have a  warm down on the pitch after a game ... and then leave from under the Arkells  ... not sure how they could avoid hearing/seeing any demo


 Its easy....you go round the front along the pitch and out through the club shop.....like Board members did to avoid the small anti King demo.

  Think it would be more constructive in the first instance, to have another open meeting, where fans can be addressed by the likes of Mike Wilks, as to the state of play and constructive suggestions can be raised as to ways of ratcheting up the pressure....


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:47:15
Quote from: "Maverick"
Perhaps if people genuinely want to protest then there are other ways to do it ..... protest peacefully outside people's business addresses (away from the players) or send mass mail to each director .. they will have to open them all to establish what they are.


logistics my friend, how are people going to get to newbury? will anyone actually be there?

if we need to avoid players, weekdays outside the club would be best - but people will be at work. the players are also now eating after training at the club now i believe.

several hundred to a thousand fans remaining in the stand after the game or outside the arkells to display their backing for the fan's consortium isn't quite on the scale of the mayday riots.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:47:26
I can't see how a protest could exacerbate the situation if the board are still unwilling to enter into talks two weeks from now!

I know footballers are perceived to be a bit thick, but if they are applauded off the pitch and only hear chants concerning the current non playing regime, then I don't think they'd take it personally!!

I'm all for the consortium to get control with the minimum of fuss, but if that's what it takes...................


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Maverick on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:49:00
Just thinking how often players use the excuse of "unrest off the pitch" as an excuse.

Also I really do think that a protest at the Director's place of work (even at a race meeting as well) would embarrass people far more than a local protest at the ground.  Imagine them having to explain it to employees etc!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:52:34
Quote from: "Maverick"
Just thinking how often players use the excuse of "unrest off the pitch" as an excuse.

Also I really do think that a protest at the Director's place of work (even at a race meeting as well) would embarrass people far more than a local protest at the ground.  Imagine them having to explain it to employees etc!


I've got nothing against your idea maverick, the problem for me and a few others I would imagine, is that we live a fair distance from Swindon and can only manage to get down on matchdays.

As Sonic said, the unrest amongst fans is only going to escalate until this situation is resolved.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: janaage on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:55:09
It would be class to have a Swindon Town demonstration during a bbc tv racing outside broadcast - wee Willie wouldn't know what was going on.

The only problem is it'd mean some of us missing a match!!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: sonic youth on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:56:29
Quote from: "Maverick"
Just thinking how often players use the excuse of "unrest off the pitch" as an excuse.


it shouldn't be an excuse at all.

the players are employed by the football club to do a job on the pitch, to win games and achieve set targets and goals. the same applies to the manager, coaching staff, physios etc.

they should not be getting involved with politics behind the scenes at the club nor do i see why it's a distraction... how is it going to affect what they do on a daily basis?

at the moment the situation is tentative as the consortium is still in it's infancy, or at least that's how i see it. the infrastructure is not entirely in place and it needs more support from the fans in order for those behind the consortium to garner a greater understanding of what the fans want, as well as giving them the numbers to signal to the board what the paying public feel.

this is why i think protests at this stage would be inappropriate. perhaps i'm wrong and the consortium are close to a breakthrough, i'm no more 'clued up' than the next man.

when the time is right, i'm all for protests directed at the board regardless if it does impact performances on the pitch. this is for the long-term good of the club, any impact the team suffers will be short-term only.

vive la revolucion!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, December 4, 2006, 19:57:21
Quote from: "janaage"
It would be class to have a Swindon Town demonstration during a bbc tv racing outside broadcast - wee Willie wouldn't know what was going on.

The only problem is it'd mean some of us missing a match!!


 Unfortunately think the flat season is over.......some judiciously scribed graffiti in the rolling acres of the Cotswolds might send a message.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: janaage on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:00:44
Ah, well that shows my terrible knowledge of the sport of kings.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:03:03
Another little point.

At present, we are being told that the board do not feel that the Trust (Which to them at least, is ailigned to the consortium) is representative of the majority of town fans.

SSW et al do not, I would imagine, scan the Swindon Town forums and could therefore be thinking that the current attempt at a takeover is something that most fans are ambivalent toward.

A demonstration would put that right!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Spud on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:08:39
Option B

Just make sure you wear something Orange to the Rovers game.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: janaage on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:15:17
Spuddy's right, that's the start of the revolution, it's not too much to ask you fella's to find something orange to wear, or show, at the match is it?  

(PLEASE NOTE THIS WON'T BE AS HARD AS YOU IMAGINE - MORE SOON!)

We need to show the current board members that we're not happy, we support the fans consortium and that their time is coming to an end.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:15:55
The orange idea simply won't get the coverage needed to make an impact. If by the Rovers game they have shown no will to talk then I think a protest, suitably organised, would be appropriate.

You can tie in 'Sack the Board' with a few 'Red Army' chants and 'Wise Men Say'

But, we need a bit of direction from Mike Wilks and the Trust on this - they are the only ones who know exactly how the talks are progressing.

We mustn't let this lose momentum - 2 days ago we were talking of the board 'desperately clinging onto power' and now I think the geberal feeling is that the board won't budge, despite no more news coming out.

If it comes down to making the board hate being at the CG and being on the receiving end of a protest then so be it


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:17:16
Quote from: "janaage"
Spuddy's right, that's the start of the revolution, it's not too much to ask you fella's to find something orange to wear, or show, at the match is it?  

(PLEASE NOTE THIS WON'T BE AS HARD AS YOU IMAGINE - MORE SOON!)

We need to show the current board members that we're not happy, we support the fans consortium and that their time is coming to an end.


So you've managed to get hold of 5000 orange tshirts?


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:22:04
I think it's a shit idea. Do it at the Wycombe game because I will be there.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:23:14
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
Quote from: "janaage"
Spuddy's right, that's the start of the revolution, it's not too much to ask you fella's to find something orange to wear, or show, at the match is it?  

(PLEASE NOTE THIS WON'T BE AS HARD AS YOU IMAGINE - MORE SOON!)

We need to show the current board members that we're not happy, we support the fans consortium and that their time is coming to an end.


So you've managed to get hold of 5000 orange tshirts?


Buy a fucking Donnay one. It'll probably cost 50p and they always have hideous colours like bright Orange.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: DV on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:25:28
we have to have Power in by January so we can bring back Parkin....


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: spacey on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:26:56
Orange! I tell you what why don't we really crank up the pressure and take up hairdressing.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:27:53
Quote from: "spacey"
Orange! I tell you what why don't we really crank up the pressure and take up hairdressing.


Or everyone except gingers should boycott the games


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:28:06
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
Quote from: "janaage"
Spuddy's right, that's the start of the revolution, it's not too much to ask you fella's to find something orange to wear, or show, at the match is it?  

(PLEASE NOTE THIS WON'T BE AS HARD AS YOU IMAGINE - MORE SOON!)

We need to show the current board members that we're not happy, we support the fans consortium and that their time is coming to an end.


So you've managed to get hold of 5000 orange tshirts?


Buy a fucking Donnay one. It'll probably cost 50p and they always have hideous colours like bright Orange.


Yeah but sadly its impossible to get word out to 500 people before the game when the Adver and RS have to be seen as impartial. So the only way to do it is to have truck loads of them on the day and hand them out free...whcih is impossible


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:29:13
Gingers it is then. R4E will have to go to a game for once.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: janaage on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:29:50
Did you notice the stewards are already backing the campaign???  Nice jackets lads!!

Fella's if you have something orange, great wear it, if not we might just be able to help out a little bit.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: yeo on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:31:02
I think a Clockwork Orange protest would be better all wear Cod Pieces and Bowler hats.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:32:04
Couldn't the trust do a leaflet drop at the Walsall game?

Just something along the lines of 'wear orange at the Rovers game if you're dissatisfied with the way your club is being run'.

Just boght a nice orange beanie on ebay!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: janaage on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:32:16
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "The Moonraker"
Quote from: "janaage"
Spuddy's right, that's the start of the revolution, it's not too much to ask you fella's to find something orange to wear, or show, at the match is it?  

(PLEASE NOTE THIS WON'T BE AS HARD AS YOU IMAGINE - MORE SOON!)

We need to show the current board members that we're not happy, we support the fans consortium and that their time is coming to an end.


So you've managed to get hold of 5000 orange tshirts?


Buy a fucking Donnay one. It'll probably cost 50p and they always have hideous colours like bright Orange.


Yeah but sadly its impossible to get word out to 500 people before the game when the Adver and RS have to be seen as impartial. So the only way to do it is to have truck loads of them on the day and hand them out free...whcih is impossible


Lads it doesn't have to be orange clothing, could be wigs, ribbon, hats, scarves, bits of card, a f**king traffic cone anything!!!  Time to use the ol'imagination.

This may not be the big impact start that we want, but who knows over the next few matches it could just grow and grow!!!


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:33:48
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
I think a Clockwork Orange protest would be better all wear Cod Pieces and Bowler hats.


I think we should all dress up as oompa loompas.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: herthab on Monday, December 4, 2006, 20:35:25
Quote from: "simon pieman"
Quote from: "Yeovil Red"
I think a Clockwork Orange protest would be better all wear Pieces of Cod and Bowler hats.


I think we should all dress up as oompa loompas.






Fishy..................


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: pauld on Monday, December 4, 2006, 22:21:18
That's what's so good about jan's orange revolution idea - it allows people to very visibly show dissent but without distracting the players (or for the more cynical among you, giving the players the excuse of being distracted). Because Maverick does have a good point about that - the fastest way to divide the fanbase and turn people against the whole idea of the consortium would be to unsettle what is currently a successful, albeit extremely lucky, team.

And in reply to Moonraker, actually it's a lot more likely to attract press coverage than a bunch of us being lairy outside the Arkells - those kind of demos are quite common - whereas something like the "orange revolution" is not only novel in football but has a resonance that goes beyond football. I'm going dressed as a chocolate orange with a big sign saying "It's not Diamandis' club, it's ours" (erm, or I might just wear an armband so I can actually get through the turnstile).


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, December 5, 2006, 13:55:30
Paul, fair enough - sorry for my moment of scepticism. I hope it works, and i'll be joining in. Why not launch it for this weekend - it'd be anohter way of gettng alot of fans to see it prior to the Rovers game


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Frasier3 on Tuesday, December 5, 2006, 23:52:29
I seen today in JJB Sports at Greenbridge they are selling orange hi-vis vests for £2.50


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Gazza's Fat Mate on Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 12:48:51
Great idea lets invade the pitch at our local rivals! hmmmmm the police will really like that great idea fella. What next a open doors Westcountry pre-season tour! nobhead.


Title: DEMO AT ROVERS?
Post by: Sippo on Wednesday, December 6, 2006, 13:35:22
Do you think they'll chuck her in if we buy enough?!

http://www.hivis.net/64/High-Visibility-Jackets/High-Visibility-Economy-Bomber-Jacket/Orange/