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Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: stfc_steve on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:13:03
Sorry to be negative but today was bad and the peaconator played poor again just dived around, is it me thinking he is absolutely shite or are we not playing to his strenths? On the good side though Roberts is hitting form.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:15:15
He needs to stop trying the fancy flicky flicky stuff and just pass the fucking ball.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:19:33
we need to stop lumping it forward to him.

Peacock needs to be in the 6 yard box clearing up.

Not 20 yards from goal controlling the ball facing the wrong way.

Defence to midfield, midfield to the wingers. Wingers into the box.

Peacock to finish.

We dont use him right, and you're right today wasnt one of his better games....but thats life....I'm sure he'll be good the next game


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Bennett on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:27:53
i agree with dv. but i would like to see him lump a defender or two instead of just pussying out


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: stfc_steve on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:30:33
Quote from: "DV85"
we need to stop lumping it forward to him.

Peacock needs to be in the 6 yard box clearing up.

Not 20 yards from goal controlling the ball facing the wrong way.


Yer you are right, as roberts is best in the 20 yard plus position peacock should be playing on the shoulder of the last defender


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:32:15
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: stfc_steve on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:40:40
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really
thats how roberts plays though, a free roam striker which no one picks up


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:41:21
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Roberts likes to drift out wide and get down the channels, makes it even more important that we have a forward who stays in the box.

At the moment we have Peacock who holds it up 20 yards back to goal and Roberts who wants it wide in the channels...

Either one of those with a 'box striker' would be ideal.

But, Roberts is on a scoring run so cant complain.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: stfc_steve on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:42:57
true dv


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Arriba on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:44:07
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Roberts likes to drift out wide and get down the channels, makes it even more important that we have a forward who stays in the box.

At the moment we have Peacock who holds it up 20 yards back to goal and Roberts who wants it wide in the channels...

Either one of those with a 'box striker' would be ideal.

But, Roberts is on a scoring run so cant complain.


spot on fella. but we need our forwards to play upfront!roberts plays in a free role it seems.
peacock aint up to it imo


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: stfc_steve on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:50:08
peacocks just shite of late


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Saturday, November 25, 2006, 22:56:43
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Roberts likes to drift out wide and get down the channels, makes it even more important that we have a forward who stays in the box.

At the moment we have Peacock who holds it up 20 yards back to goal and Roberts who wants it wide in the channels...

Either one of those with a 'box striker' would be ideal.

But, Roberts is on a scoring run so cant complain.


spot on fella. but we need our forwards to play upfront!roberts plays in a free role it seems.
peacock aint up to it imo


As I said, I think they are both decent players. They just dont work as a partnership as one doesnt stay in the box. But I also see no reason why Peacock cant be that stay in the box striker.

Stop doing other peoples job and let the midfield be the ball winners and play makers.

Dont think Peacock isnt up to it, just isnt being used correctly.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 13:52:41
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Roberts likes to drift out wide and get down the channels, makes it even more important that we have a forward who stays in the box.

At the moment we have Peacock who holds it up 20 yards back to goal and Roberts who wants it wide in the channels...

Either one of those with a 'box striker' would be ideal.

But, Roberts is on a scoring run so cant complain.


spot on fella. but we need our forwards to play upfront!roberts plays in a free role it seems.
peacock aint up to it imo


As I said, I think they are both decent players. They just dont work as a partnership as one doesnt stay in the box. But I also see no reason why Peacock cant be that stay in the box striker.

Stop doing other peoples job and let the midfield be the ball winners and play makers.

Dont think Peacock isnt up to it, just isnt being used correctly.
Thats how he plays though dv he allways wants to be involved in the link up play.i dont think its us not using him properly its more to do with him not doing his job to good effect hence the reason he got subbed.i really wouldnt be suprised to see lucas start upfront next week with roberts


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 14:04:01
Quote from: "DV85"
we need to stop lumping it forward to him.

Peacock needs to be in the 6 yard box clearing up.

Not 20 yards from goal controlling the ball facing the wrong way.

Defence to midfield, midfield to the wingers. Wingers into the box.

Peacock to finish.

We dont use him right, and you're right today wasnt one of his better games....but thats life....I'm sure he'll be good the next game


It seems more like defence to strikers, hit the oppo centre backs, try and pick up second ball, midfield tussle, force it out wide, cross, score.

So long as the score bits there, I don't care. First goal was Sturrock all over, and it was nice to watch.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 14:09:07
Its plain the Cock doesn't like Sturrock too much.....expect him out the door in Jan


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 14:17:42
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Its plain the Cock doesn't like Sturrock too much.....expect him out the door in Jan
agreed reg.he should be a real pro about it and get on with it and do a job.roberts showed peacock yesterday how to answer someone.last week sturrock said roberts was a little bit lazy yesterday he decides to show him that he is prepared to prove him wrong.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 16:06:28
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "arriba"
Quote from: "DV85"
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Roberts likes to drift out wide and get down the channels, makes it even more important that we have a forward who stays in the box.

At the moment we have Peacock who holds it up 20 yards back to goal and Roberts who wants it wide in the channels...

Either one of those with a 'box striker' would be ideal.

But, Roberts is on a scoring run so cant complain.


spot on fella. but we need our forwards to play upfront!roberts plays in a free role it seems.
peacock aint up to it imo


As I said, I think they are both decent players. They just dont work as a partnership as one doesnt stay in the box. But I also see no reason why Peacock cant be that stay in the box striker.

Stop doing other peoples job and let the midfield be the ball winners and play makers.

Dont think Peacock isnt up to it, just isnt being used correctly.
Thats how he plays though dv he allways wants to be involved in the link up play.i dont think its us not using him properly its more to do with him not doing his job to good effect hence the reason he got subbed.i really wouldnt be suprised to see lucas start upfront next week with roberts


he did it at City, no reason why he cant do it here...


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 16:07:25
i agree dv but he isnt doing it here.Thats what the problem is


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 16:16:39
...but I think he will, now we've started using wingers properly...


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Sunday, November 26, 2006, 16:45:03
Quote from: "DV85"
...but I think he will, now we've started using wingers properly...
3 times yesterday shakes and brown got crosses in the box and peacock was about ten yards outside the box.he didnt get in the box enough at wednesday and he was sold.imho the same will happen here


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:45:11
He was very poor on saturday.  Frankly Roberts wasnt a great deal better though


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:46:34
Quote from: "Piemonte"
He was very poor on saturday.  Frankly Roberts wasnt a great deal better though
roberts was a 100 times better than peacock on saturday


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:48:16
He wasnt.  Hes a lazy cunt who plays in flashes. Take his goals (s?) away and he was half arsed.

You've just got a problem with Peacock. Hate Arron Brown instead, it works for me


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:49:35
Quote from: "Piemonte"
He wasnt.  Hes a lazy cunt who plays in flashes. Take his goals (s?) away and he was half arsed.
and those flashes are more than peacock offers,thats what im saying


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:56:10
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "Piemonte"
He wasnt.  Hes a lazy cunt who plays in flashes. Take his goals (s?) away and he was half arsed.
and those flashes are more than peacock offers,thats what im saying


I know what you are saying, but they are fundametally different types of player.

Peacock isnt going to run past 3 men and score like Roberts can, but then I can count the number of headers Roberts has won in an STFC shirt on one hand.

Swings and roundabouts.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: janaage on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:56:14
Quote from: "Reg Smeeton"
Its plain the Cock doesn't like Sturrock too much.....expect him out the door in Jan


 :shock: That sounds painful Reg!!  Jan Leeming I hope!!

I agree with your sentiments though think Peacock's days at CG are coming to an end.  

I have a theory that when the team is disjointed Peacock's your man, winning lost causes, running all over the place.  But when I team has a set formula, as Sturrock is trying to create, Peacock becomes less of an influence.

Peacock out and bring in a goal poacher, my prediction.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, November 27, 2006, 09:58:49
I'm not sure he will go.

This mythical goal poacher is going to need to have some physical presence about him though if it happens as we'll be back to Cureton and Thorpe "midget hoofball" if he hasnt  :?


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: janaage on Monday, November 27, 2006, 10:01:13
"This mythical goal poacher..."

Are you saying there are no goal poachers in the game anymore??


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Monday, November 27, 2006, 10:11:47
In some ways yes.  There are not any available to the likes of us.

Any that are available have no other redeeming qualities. ie Graziolli was a goal poacher, but had no pace, power, aerial ability or skill.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Monday, November 27, 2006, 17:29:32
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.

I bet you were saying the same thing about Roberts when he had his off patch

Peacock is a good player and adds alot to the team, he had a poor game saturday...so what? its only one game and we still won.

I really do think I watch a different game sometimes...


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Tails on Monday, November 27, 2006, 17:47:03
Quote from: "arriba"
roberts was all over the place too.too deep and too wide.
our poor wide players meant that had to really


Roberts can't win though can he?

If he just stays in the box, he's lazy. If he does anything else he's not doing his job.

I think he's doing everything right at the moment, and he's been fantastic since his return from injury.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 27, 2006, 18:17:45
You can't argue with what Roberts brings to the team, he's the best finisher in the squad, the quickest of our forwards and is scoring goals for fun at the moment.

What Peacock brings to the team is akin to Trevor bloody Benjamin, although Bif Trev wasn't such a flashy cheating tart as Peacock. It's well documented I don't like him but purely football-wise I don't really mind if he goes in January if someone else comes in, as Lukas blatantly isn't there yet.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: stfc_steve on Monday, November 27, 2006, 19:37:28
true dave, but we want to keep roberts really dont we?


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Monday, November 27, 2006, 22:34:32
Quote from: "DV85"
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.

I bet you were saying the same thing about Roberts when he had his off patch

Peacock is a good player and adds alot to the team, he had a poor game saturday...so what? its only one game and we still won.

I really do think I watch a different game sometimes...
in all fairness dv i have said he was poor all season,i agree with your last comment though as i fail to see what he brings to the team apart from freekicks on the halfway line


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:01:48
Quote from: "DV85"
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.


It's not a question of "wanting" him to go, it's just speculation, we as fans are speculating what will happen in the future.


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:02:52
Quote from: "janaage"
Quote from: "DV85"
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.


It's not a question of "wanting" him to go, it's just speculation, we as fans are speculating what will happen in the future.
speak for yourself jan  :D


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:05:01
Fair enough!!  Was talking from a personal point of view, perhaps not for the majority!


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:06:14
Quote from: "janaage"
Fair enough!!  Was talking from a personal point of view, perhaps not for the majority!
you wouldnt mind if he left though would you


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:14:17
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "DV85"
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.

I bet you were saying the same thing about Roberts when he had his off patch

Peacock is a good player and adds alot to the team, he had a poor game saturday...so what? its only one game and we still won.

I really do think I watch a different game sometimes...
in all fairness dv i have said he was poor all season,i agree with your last comment though as i fail to see what he brings to the team apart from freekicks on the halfway line


Winning headers?
Holding the ball up?
1 in 3 (ish) strike Ratio this season?
hard work? including doing the work of others
good celebrations? (ok getting desperate here)


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:20:22
Quote from: "Piemonte"
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "DV85"
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.

I bet you were saying the same thing about Roberts when he had his off patch

Peacock is a good player and adds alot to the team, he had a poor game saturday...so what? its only one game and we still won.

I really do think I watch a different game sometimes...
in all fairness dv i have said he was poor all season,i agree with your last comment though as i fail to see what he brings to the team apart from freekicks on the halfway line


Winning headers?
Holding the ball up?
1 in 3 (ish) strike Ratio this season?
hard work? including doing the work of others
good celebrations? (ok getting desperate here)
Winning headers? its ok winning them but it helps if they go to a team mate
Holding the ball up?he holds it up then plays a 50 yard ball,back to the right back
1 in 3 (ish) strike Ratio this season?cant argue with that,imagine how many he would have if got in the box
hard work? including doing the work of others
good celebrations? (ok getting desperate ,

i agree he works hard but that is his downfall aswell,when we are losing a game i do not want to see him on the left wing struggling to get into the box.

trevor benjamin works hard,wins headers holds it up but no one wanted to keep him did they


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:25:40
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "janaage"
Fair enough!!  Was talking from a personal point of view, perhaps not for the majority!
you wouldnt mind if he left though would you


I like Lee Peacock, love his work rate, would love him to be a great success.  But as things have turned out, if it's a choice between Roberts and Peacock (which I think Sturrock will think it is) I think I'd have to go for Christian (as PS will do too).

Roberts and A.N.Other up front from January.

I hope that LP proves me wrong though, would love to eat some humble pie on this one!  After all he is Scottish!


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: Piemonte on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:27:00
Its not his fault if Roberts or anyone else wont get anywhere near him or anticipate a flick on is it?  

He would have more if he was in the box more often. A week or so ago he said that Wise TOLD him to play as a dropped off striker to try and link with the midfield. Sturrock has told him to get in the box. Its hardly his fault if he follow instructions is it?  

Did you see Benjamin play?  He didnt work hard, he didnt win headers he just ran into people doing a passable impression of a heavyweight boxer trying to be a footballer


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:27:48
Quote from: "janaage"
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "janaage"
Fair enough!!  Was talking from a personal point of view, perhaps not for the majority!
you wouldnt mind if he left though would you


I like Lee Peacock, love his work rate, would love him to be a great success.  But as things have turned out, if it's a choice between Roberts and Peacock (which I think Sturrock will think it is) I think I'd have to go for Christian (as PS will do too).

Roberts and A.N.Other up front from January.

I hope that LP proves me wrong though, would love to eat some humble pie on this one!  After all he is Scottish!
Boooooo,come join me on the road to hatred.seriously though i hope your right aswell if he starts doing it then its only good news for the town


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: janaage on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:39:29
I do think comparing Peacock to Benjamin is crazy talk though.  Peacock does more in 5 minutes than Trev did in 90!


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: red macca on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 09:43:19
Quote from: "janaage"
I do think comparing Peacock to Benjamin is crazy talk though.  Peacock does more in 5 minutes than Trev did in 90!
ah you would think so wouldnt you,as someone who didnt see big trev play last year its harder for me to say.but goals scored is what interests me and he has scored as many if not more than peacock this year BUT we are higher in the league.suppose what im trying to say is i wish peacock would score more fucking goals really


Title: Lee Peacock
Post by: DV on Tuesday, November 28, 2006, 19:44:25
Quote from: "red macca"
Quote from: "DV85"
one bad game and you want rid and his days are numbered.

I bet you were saying the same thing about Roberts when he had his off patch

Peacock is a good player and adds alot to the team, he had a poor game saturday...so what? its only one game and we still won.

I really do think I watch a different game sometimes...
in all fairness dv i have said he was poor all season,i agree with your last comment though as i fail to see what he brings to the team apart from freekicks on the halfway line


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